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Merry Christmas to you too.
And a very Happy Christmas and Holiday Season to all of you… especially all the Cranky Old Men who may be lonely at this joyous time of the year. No, I really mean it.
All alone with only my two hands?
And please, if you drink, get a designated driver.
Or don’t leave home. lol
Christmas is a time for giving and not for binging…
Or don’t leave your tent. lol
IRT:Felicity O. Yost. You failed to mention other changes in MO laws (dealing with mental health and the release of patients who should still be in care facilities) and the elephant in the room, St. Louis.
The real correlation is the gun law was passed in 2007 (385 murders), murders spiked to 456, in 2008, in 2009 there were 387 murders and has bounced up and down since.
So if there were a direct effect of the laws the rate would not be up and down. It would stay high.
On the other hand forcible rape rates dropped from 1714 in 2007 to 1614 in 2008 and there have been fewer rapes since 2007. So by using your example murder went up, albeit temporarily, but rapes went down consistently. So lax gun laws prevent rape.
Also there were 29,682 violent crimes in MO in 2007, and overall violent crimes dropped to 26,216 in 2013 an overall decrease of violent crime of 3466 crimes a year.
In conclusion the gun law had a positive effect on crime in Missouri
Kekelaward, impressive and to the point regarding gun laws.
I’m opposed to more guns laws that are simply eyewash and do nothing more than have an adverse impact on law abiding citizens who want to purchase and want to own or carry a gun. States and cities with the highest gun crime rate have the tightest gun laws in the nation. Show me a gun law which any criminal would follow. All the federal laws against having “pipe bombs” didn’t stop two ‘terrorists” living in San Bernardino from having 13 pipe bombs.
So may I assume you are against all laws? I mean some people for example are going to drink and drive regardless of the law so why have them? Show me a DUI law that a drunk will follow. Makes as much sense as your argument.
Not to speak for the American taxpayer, but how do you make the leap from opposed to more gun laws to against all laws? You constantly create false arguments to make banal, off topic comments.
So it seems…
“All the federal laws against having “pipe bombs” didn’t stop two ‘terrorists” living in San Bernardino from having 13 pipe bombs.”
Lee, I am sorry you cannot understand my argument. Did you read the comment I was referring to? Let me quote from it: All the federal laws against having “pipe bombs” didn’t stop two ‘terrorists” living in San Bernardino from having 13 pipe bombs. Obviously all laws on the books will not stop everyone from never breaking them. Sorry you have a hard time making this connection.
Probably, Lee still doesn’t get it…
I was stopped once about 12 years ago and have not driven after drinking since.
Bad people kill innocent people. Gun is just a gun by itself.
Don’t ban guns. Just ban the ammo.
She doesn’t mention it for the simple fact that people love to cherry pick numbers to support their arguments and hope their presentation is convincing enough to sound authoritative.
Felicity Yost cites a John Hopkins study published in the New York Times to support her position that the loosening of gun laws as was done in Missouri in 2007 results in an increase in crimes linked to guns. She apparently missed the part in the story that says “researchers cautioned that the causation is hard to prove, and that just because the gun homicide rate rose after 2007, it does not mean the repeal was the reason.” She also missed the part that says “In 1995 Connecticut enacted a law similar to the one Missouri repealed, and gun homicides declined by 40 percent in the 10 years that followed.” Her argument does not hold up.
IRT Rod B. Catiggay: You really don’t understand the threat or it’s history, do you?
Perhaps you can explain the threat and its history?
This list almost includes everybody except Lenny’s Muslim friends.
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S. Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
The Paris massacre of a few days ago, but don’t rush to judge
Think of it:
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem
Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
totally uncalled for. bringing facts to a gruber voter discussion.
My puppies will tolerate living with anyone.
And one more for the record: Non-Muslims living with Muslims = Problem
What would make your comment true is to replace ALL of the places you use the word Muslim with Muslim Extremist.
Rod’s looney partisan letters get printed every 6-8 weeks. Look for something from Smokey Guerrero from Millilani next week.
I like Catiggay’s opinion… not all opinions but this one is good….
“I guess the words “aloha” and “akamai” are words that belong to a bygone era. So few people care about their neighbors anymore.”>>> Aloha USED to mean consideration for others. Nowadays, it’s used by those who want their inconsiderations overlooked.
People are the same…. and society has changed. But that means that the institutions are different. There’s always been a lot of aloha in Hawaii.
“GOP candidates have doubled down on their radical positions using words that breed hatred and divisiveness.”>>> Because the hugs and kisses just created more opportunities for them to victimize us. The problem has been identified and is to no longer be ignored.
As long as fireworks are a cash cow as a source of tax revenue, it will not be banned.
Right companies that buy Chinese products also pack in fireworks to fill container, make extra “hidden” cash. Order early and sit on it till New Years. Price goes up as law makers debate issue.
Taxes to include permit fees do not cover the disposal costs for illegal fireworks seized. Until the State finds as suitable site and company, it will always be a problem.
For the Politically Correctness crowd. Merry Christmas! Or for me? Happy Birthday Jesus ! He IS the reason for this Season. Peace out!
Jesus was not born on December 25th.
Yes he was!
So are you saying if we make guns illegal, then nobody will get shot anymore? ( After all, that’s how we stopped everybody from doing drugs.) You may consider a drug crazed criminal breaking into a home and being shot to death as a homicide… and for statistical purposed it may be. I call it self defense. Everywhere that legalized concealed carry… the crime rates dropped substantially.
Fire Ernie… he’s delaying rail.
wiliki’s grandmother is afraid Ernie is angling for Kirk’s job. Actually not wiliki’s grandmother but his wife sounds more accurate. Wiliki’s daughter did her part destroying an opponents sign while stoned.
yost: the police have no duty to protect any individual from harm from another individual.
we are responsible for the safety of ourselves and for our family. how we provide for that safety is a personal decision.
if you truly are against the second amendment you should be advocating for police to patrol without firearms. after all, if they don’t feel safe without firearms patrolling the streets we live and work on, why should we.
Especially, in the third world living conditions of America.
I see that no one commented on the good news item by Jim Slavish. Kudos to Jim for giving recognition to the volleyball players and the TV commentators. That was a nice tribute well appreciated. I totally agree that Chris McLaughlin is a wonderful color commentator second to none.
I’m with you!