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A truly endangered species.
Only themselves to blame. Genetics, obesity, tobacco.
Hate is alive and well.
Hank7, I agree with you, hate of the truth is alive and well.
Its not hate, when its real. My family suffers from everything reported here. I am the only vegan in our ohana. Auwe. I have zero problems, and I am the eldest. Everyone else is on the most common drugs, because they refuse to acknowledge Chart 4 in this report:
It all boils down to ignorance, and lack of willpower.
I agree with butinski , when you watch them you can see that their unhealthy lifestyle makes them sick.
What else do you see when you watch them?
Spam and rice – now you see it, now you don’t.
I stand corrected…hate and stupid is alive and well.
I beg to differ. Hawaiian people were healthy living off the land. When the Hawaiian people were thrust into Western lifestyle, diet, forced away from their original culture, that is when the trouble started. The Hawaiian people were oppressed, then afterward were left to fend for themselves. Poverty was caused by Westerners.
That’s true but that was a long time ago. I don’t eat like my parents did, as we know much more know. I don’t smoke like my grandfather did. We all do things differently than they did in the times that Hawaiians were deprived of their way of life. Poverty is another matter, of course, as is systemic discrimination and loss of culture. But food and lifestyle choices are made anew with each generation.
Oppressed and forced to eat like Westerners? Give me a effin break.
Zippies will kill anyone.
Poorest excuse so far. Place the blame on long ago events that prevents Hawaiians from living a healthy lifestyle today. Seems I’ve heard the same excuses from African Americans for their lot in life. Some cultures need to blame others while the rest of us will just pass them by.
Crackers…you are absolutely right.
What do you mean Westerners? My ancestors had nothing to do with Hawaiian history.
“Only themselves to blame. Genetics…..”
Blame? Since when is a person’s genetics something that is controllable to themselves?
see what happens when you don’t eat enough poi?
Yeah, we are all to blame for our genetics. I should have picked better parents, hopefully rich. As for tobacco, stop allowing it to be sold already. The governments only allow the production and sale for the taxes. The land could be used better for raising sugar beets, etc. so we can mix this deadly and unnecessary additive to our food.
Native Hawaiians aren’t a species!
Who counts as Native Hawaiian or Caucasian? Data analysis comparing ethnic groups in Hawaii is outrageously skewed by failure to take account of fractional blood quantum and age. Bogus statistical analysis is used to assert unfounded claims of disparate impact or victimhood. The Native Hawaiian victimhood scam is wielded as a political weapon to shape public policy regarding racial entitlement programs, healthcare, education, the criminal justice system, and demands for race-based political sovereignty. For example, if people were labeled as “Caucasian” in the same way as people are labeled “Native Hawaiian” (using the one-drop rule), then Michelle Obama would be counted as Caucasian and solely as Caucasian because she has 1/32 Caucasian ancestry due to her great-great=great grandfather being a white slave-owner.
See a webpage providing detailed analysis and proof of the statistical scamming that falsely portrays ethnic Hawaiians as being disproportionately victimized by disease and social dysfunction.
Victims are assigned to the category of “Native Hawaiian” without regard to the other ethnicities that make up a majority of their ancestry. This greatly inflates the alleged victimhood of Native Hawaiians while at the same time depriving those other ethnicities of the victimhood recognition to which the facts entitle them. Anyone with even a single drop of Hawaiian native blood is classified as “Native Hawaiian” and solely as Native Hawaiian (see the “smoking gun” confession of statistical malpractice copied from a scholarly article). The opposite sort of one-drop rule is used when counting Caucasians. A person whose ancestry is 7/8 Caucasian might be classified as Filipino merely because the father has 1/8 Filipino ancestry. These two applications of the one-drop rule grossly increase the apparent level of Native Hawaiian victimhood while also reducing the apparent level of Caucasian victimhood. An accurate assessment of ethnic victimhood would require researchers to have the courage to ask the politically incorrect but scientifically essential question: What are you? What racial groups are present in your ancestry, and what is the percentage of each one?
If victimhood is to be ascribed as being genetically caused by or correlated with race, then each racial group should be awarded a fractional victimhood tally mark for each victim, equal to the fraction of that race in the ancestry of each victim. If victimhood is to be ascribed as being caused by ethnic lifestyle or culture or religion, then a researcher should create for each lifestyle or culture or religion a list of activities or attitudes that characterize each culture or religion, and award fractional points to each of them according to the activities or attitudes of each victim. Whether genetics or lifestyle is being studied as a cause or correlation of victimhood, a graph should be drawn for each kind of victimhood with regard to each ethnic group, comparing percentage of ethnicity against percentage of victimhood. If women with a low percentage of being Native Hawaiian by race or lifestyle have a low percentage of breast cancer while women with a high percentage of being Native Hawaiian by race or lifestyle also have a high percentage of breast cancer, then it would be reasonable to conclude that being Native Hawaiian is correlated with and probably a cause of getting breast cancer. Researchers could then try to discover what specific elements of genome or lifestyle cause the trouble. It would certainly be scientifically interesting to discover clear causes for the bad outcomes. But then would arise the question what should be done with such knowledge. It would be politically incorrect and socially dangerous to recommend genetic modification for Native Hawaiians, or changes in culture or lifestyle, as ways to prevent victimhood.
Sounds like the potential birth of an entirely new State agency, Ken: The Hawaii State Department of Fractional Identity. Just tack another half percentage point onto the GET, and we can get started!
BS we can do this for a quarter percentage increase in GET. Stop spreading lies.
interesting points. Yes, Hawaii is deeply troubled by bogus racial claims and neo-tribalism. It keeps the money flowing. Trouble is, the money does not seem to help much.
You mean like Mandans?
IRT Ken_Conklin, agree with your post. Hawaii is one of the most genetically diverse State in the Nation and possibly World. The diversity of genes among citizens of the State of Hawaii is special. I studied orchids under Dr. Kamemoto as a student at Manoa, and orchids are poly-genetic creating the wide range of beautiful flowers and genetically diverse plants. Yes, I believe it’s more lifestyle choice with the higher incidence of cancer in Hawaii’s residence.
Ken, reread the article. You’re going on and on as though genes are the only factor to inflate your favorite bone against Native Hawaiian advocates. Genetics is only part of the problem. Environmental factors are the primary cause. “What is probably most important,” says Dr. Randall Holcombe, director of the University of Hawaii Cancer Center, “is the gene-environment interaction.” This article is not about victimhood but about awareness of statistics that could save a person’s life. Twisting this critical information to feed your own political agenda is a disservice to the kanaka maoli. O ka huhu ka mea e ola `ole ai.
We all live in the same environment. Therefore different outcomes resulting from the gene-environment interaction are entirely attributable to genes, since we all share the same environment.
But my main complaint is that anyone with a single drop of Hawaiian native blood is counted as 100% “Native Hawaiian” and is not counted as any of the other ethnicities in his heritage. So isn’t it obvious that counting that way badly skews the data to make it look like “Native Hawaiians” are the worst victims?
If somebody gets diabetes and has ancestry 1/8 Hawaiian, 3/8 Chinese, and 1/2 Caucasian, then anyone in his right mind who does data analysis should chalk up 1/8 of a tally mark for Hawaiian diabetes, 3/8 of a tally mark for Chinese diabetes, and 1/2 tally mark for Caucasian diabetes. The people compiling victimhood date don’t do it that way. They profit by having it look like Native Hawaiians are the worst victims, because all the grant money goes to studying Native Hawaiian victimhood and not for studying victimhood of other ethnicities.
The SUGAR industry in America has a lot to do with diabetes and obesity. Look how your grocery store has products chock full of sugar. Sugar in everything especially bakery goods and liquor/beer products.
Now, do doctors tell you to stay clear of your neighborhood grocery store?, hell no!! Your doctors know all they have to do is prescribe BIG PHARMA products that don’t cure but just controls your condition(s), not to mention very bad side effects to boot. Chaching$$$$$.
Ken, could this as simple as smoking, genetics, environmental components, alcohol and obesity. Hundreds of words in your comment. Nobody is going to spend their time reading all of that stuff.
I read it, it is more enlightening than most comments.
Nobody was going to go to the webpage I cited, so that’s why I copy/pasted a couple paragraphs of it, for the benefit of people like you who find it too hard to click on a webpage link.
I’ve been there and I can tell you that one of the reasons for sparse traffic has nothing to do with content. Angelfire and text dense web pages died in the last century in about 1998. (Mediawiki is also not a very good 21st century solution anymore)Take a look at the way people with high traffic use tools like WordPress for high impact blogs. It’s not that difficult and it really works. The next thing is branding your url. Third, you need other sites to quote and link back. You’ll need to break up the big blocks of text if you want your ideas to have any. traction on the web. There are lots of good examples out there. (there are even more bad examples but you can learn from those too.) Go to organizations you like and follow the links they choose to highlight. In closing, remember Marshall McLuhan.
hugs her smart cello
The medium is the massage. LOL
Instead of spending time fighting amongst each other, focusing on fighting health problems of Native Hawaiians may be better time spent for OHA.
We need to fight Obesity everywhere. It’s an epidemic. Our children will be dying diabetes and hi cholesterol if unhealthy life styles are not changed. This is for everyone.
It would help if we knew what they meant by “Native Hawaiian.”
Smoking seems to be more important than living a longer life and watching your kids and grandkids grow up. Both of my parents never had a chance to meet my newborn son. Smoked non stop until it was too late.
My Mom started smoking at age 15, and worked up to 2 packs a day all her life until she finally died at age 93. Her last year was spend in an assisted living facility where they had a rule that nobody can smoke. Maybe cold-turkey withdrawal was what killed her. I have never smoked. Can’t stand inhaling smoke, maybe because of my childhood in smoky rooms and in cars with the windows rolled up tight in Chicago winters. When I wanted to try pakalolo, a friend had to bake it into a brownie for me because there’s no way I would smoke it. But the brownie worked. See what it did to me? I’m CRAY-zee. Woo-hoo!
Someone who smokes that much until 93 just have really good genetics. I hate smoking for the same reasons. My dad smoked until his last day and he never had a smokers cough.He dies at 89, but the last few years he had health problems related to smoking. He might have had a better quality life the last few years if he didn’t smoke.
“Someone who smokes that much until 93 just have really good genetics. ”
Yes. And those genes were passed down to me, a non-smoker. So I’m gonna live to 110, grarans ball-barans.
Note this might also be considered a non-tobacco smoke-screen bailout money to help keep the UH facility going.
An unhealthy diet consisting of a lot of fried foods, junk foods, meats containing nitrites (i.e: Spam corned beef, cold cuts, ham), soft drinks, high consumption of processed vegetable oils as well as high starch consumption all cause chronic inflammation in the human body which eventually lead to chronic diseases such as diabetes, cancers of all kinds,
heart disease, rheumatoid arthritis and a whole host of other chronic killers.
Genetics is a very small factor in the development of most of the chronic health conditions which plague many here in Hawaii.
Because people in families tend to develop the same eating habits, eat the same kind of foods prepared in the same way, this tends to cause people
to develop the same kind of illnesses which the medical profession wrongly believe are genetically caused.
Look at the food and the manner in which they are prepared by certain ethic groups and you will see what is causing them as a group to have chronic health
Chronic inflammation throughout the body is the main culprit caused by eating the wrong foods. Change the diet and you will eliminate much of what is causing
people to become unhealthy.
some Common Sense , thank you.
Smoking is not only a health issue that kills people, but very expensive; $10 a pack a day at 30 days a month is $300; this $300 times 12 month is $3,600 a year (1 month salary?). Then $3,600 times 20 years = $72,000. Basic elementary class information.
Smoking is expensive only because the politicians found it to be a very convenient source of tax revenue which they could dip into all the while
draping themselves with the illusion of being against one of the old time evils, you know smoking and drinking and fornicating. Well one out of three
ain’t bad. The politicians always saw the tax on tobacco as a revenue source which is why they are now complaining that their campaign against smoking
has been so successful that the revenue stream is drying up. The solution of course is to raise the tax again. It was never about health and always about
but it’s a choice you make..only a smoker doesn’t like that tax
There are two purposes for taxation.
One purpose to raise revenue. To maximize tax revenue on a particular economic activity, tax rates will be rather low (less than 30%), so as not to discourage the activity.
The second purpose for taxation is to reduce and unwanted economic activity, such as smoking, and in this case very high taxe rates are needed to discourage the economic activity. Revenues will be diminished compared to a lower tax rate, but the point of taxes on Tobacco is not to raise revenue. The primary purpose is to discourage smoking and improve the health of the population. This reduce the societal burden of the various smoking-related illnesses (Medicare, Medicaid). The Cancer Center needed an appropriation because the tax has done is job of reducing tobacco use, and the tobacco tax revenue it uses for funding.
BTW, this second use of taxation was used in the 1940s, 1950s and 1060s to force profits back into businesses, jobs and the productive economy. Taxes for high income business owners and executives were never below 70% (top bracket) in those years of booming economy and full employment.
Once top personal income tax rates were dropped to around 30% in the 1980s, most profits has taken out of the economy as petsonal income. This has fueled the luxury economy, the rising income gap, the failure to create good jobs, and excess corporate risk taking and malfeasance. The government has responded with more regulations, excitement social programs and more jails and prisons.
Trump is on the right track with his determination ti create jobs, shrink government, lift regulation, and reduce taxes on businesses. Unfortunately, when combined with currently low top bracket income tax rates these steps will merely allow executives and owners to extract more profits into their bank accounts and luxury lifestyles. If polluting, cheating employees and others lets then take more $$ many will yield to the temptation to do so. There may even be social unrest and increased budget deficits.
Trump needs to combine his business friendly, small small government policies and tax cuts for the working class and middle classes, with steeply rising tax rates for income above $1-3 million/yr.
That’s the key ingredient to the secret sauce of American prosperity. Without it, no greatness, just more carnage.
IRT Ready2Go, and the State of Hawaii is debating the legalization of marijuana and other materials that humans inhale as tobacco. Try figga. Auwe.
When you can’t afford to buy good food, you buy junk food.
That has been common knowledge, in Hawai’i, for many years.
There are some of us, who can afford good food.
Buying lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes, meat, brown rice, etc… for one meal, is expensive.
Buying a Mac meal is cheaper.
The stuff in the foods & drinks, might be promoting cancer. Aspartame comes to mind.
I have had 3 different cancers, that I blame on Agent Orange.
I don’t smoke. Never have. I don’t drink anymore.
I am not fat, but, I am large. According to the BMI, I am fat. No one believes that I am fat, when they see me.
Yes, Agent Orange is a known cancer causing substance and it has other devastating health effects on humans as the Vietnamese
well know. Although the VA has acknowledged its effects on veterans who were exposed such as yourself and provides health care
our government in the meanwhile has steadfastly denied the same for the Vietnamese who were also exposed and suffered
the same devastating health effects including birth defects.
By the way, Monsanto, the chemical multinational company that developed Agent Orange at the University of Hawaii and field tested it
on Kauai and the Big Island reformulated the formula after the war and marketed it as Roundup in addition to other herbicides and
pesticides it markets.
Hey FiveO, you lie. Don’t spread “Fake News” if you have no idea what makes up Agent Orange. For certain Agent Orange (selvex with 2,4,5 T) and Roundup (glysophate) are two completely different herbicides and never been reformulated. FYI, I am a licensed restricted pesticide applicator, also a Vietnam Veteran disabled by Agent Orange.
kuroiwaj, not sure what your real point is. You are correct the Roundup is glysophate and Agent Orange is “selvex with 2,4,5 T” but nothing changes the fact that both are highly carcinogenic. Countless studies and lawsuits against Monsanto and their lies about the safety of their chemicals have been exposed.
“It is in the aftermath of the DDT and Agent Orange fiascos that Monsanto first launched glyphosate as an all-purpose Roundup weed killer in 1974”
A California court only days ago ordered that Monsanto label Roundup as a cancer hazard for humans.
Monsanto has until 1/18 to begin labeling their Roundup herbicide as such in California.
From a common sense prospective, it makes sense that a if a chemical (glyphosate) kills plants, it stands to reason
that it will be harmful to humans. The other problem is that these pesticides persist for a long time
and they build up in the environment. If this was the only pesticide that people were exposed to its effects may not
be a problem but this is not the case and we are bombarded by a whole host of toxic chemicals. The effects of this
combination of toxic chemicals is really unknown as testing to this kind of exposure has not really been done.
keonimay… the argument about junk food being affordable food is absurd. I can get frozen fish at Costco / Sam’s Club which is a JUST AS HEALTHY AS FRESH FISH and frozen vegetables WHICH IS JUST AS HEALTHY AS FRESH VEGETABLES. Home-prepped meals cost far less than a meal from even McDonalds, Jack in a Box etc. You just need to take a little bit of time to prep the meals. The bottom line is people are LAZY… this is not an issue of not having access to healthy foods. Your rhetoric is pure nonsense.
I doubt he was referring to frozen fish/meat/veggies as junk food and I doubt anyone would classify most of that as junk food with the exception of some very highly processed items. I think he’s referring to the real junk food like SPAM, Cheetos, McDonalds, etc. I’ve seen the shopping carts of many natives and I must admit, the stuff they tend to predominantly fill their shopping carts with is just asking to become diabetic amputees.
There are a lot of local people, who can’t pay the yearly fee, for Costco or Sams Club.
I am beginning to suspect, that you have never interacted, with many local people, who are barely getting by.
You must be an academic.
Besides ethnic and racial groups, what about the age groups?
Poor diet choices. Got to eat more fish. Less rice no mac salad eat green salad.
Fish costs to much, for many local people.
Brown rice, beans, whatever green veggie is on sale. Myth that healthy is more expensive. People are willing to pay more when something is labeled healthy, but that’s different.
It is a reality, that low income & fixed income people, can’t afford good food.
A net of $1,000 a month, can’t afford to buy good food.
keonimay, quit making excuses. Did you even read what Manda said? Beans, rice, and whatever green veggie is on sale. Fish is affordable. If you’re buying your fish in the form of $16 per pound poke, you’re doing it wrong.
You didn’t really read, what I had to say. I wasn’t speaking about myself. I was speaking about other people, whom I know.
Maybe, you should give a pep talk, to the homeless faction, in Hawaii. I can arrange it for you.
Poverty, tobacco products, plate lunches, Hawaiian food, lack of exercise, sedentary lifestyle, social reinforcement for the lifestyle listed thereof. A combination of predisposition and choices when of age.
And your telling us this to justify this fiasco?
Dr. Rath has a cure but it’s illegal due to not approved by the FDA.
Everybody should get comprehension dental benefits without the current low annual maximums of $1000 or $2000 which only pay for people with excellent dental health. Dentists are charging extremely high fees these days.
Teeth are so overrated! Rip them out and get dentures, dentists will hate your guts for not giving them any future business! LOL 😉 All kidding aside, just how many cavities does one have to exceed the typical $1500 a year policy? Scary out there!!!
I hope i don’t end up with cancer. I hope all the troublemakers, bullies, thugs, liars, and criminals end up with cancer.