“You know how people stand around and sing show tunes at parties?” Mandy Patinkin asked recently. “I hate it. Can’t stand doing it.”
He noted, unnecessarily, “You can see the irony” in that confession — coming from a performer whose fire-and-honey voice made him one of the biggest musical theater stars of his generation in shows like “Evita” and “Sunday in the Park with George.”
Patinkin, 65, has been most visible in recent years on Showtime’s “Homeland,” where since 2011 he has played CIA veteran Saul Berenson, the battle-scarred mentor to Claire Danes’ Carrie Mathison.
With that hit series approaching its final season, events conspired to turn Patinkin’s focus back to music — though not the kind you’d necessarily expect.
In April, he released “Diary: January 27, 2018,” his first new collection of songs in 16 years.
Mandy Patinkin in Concert
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Recorded with the prolific 30-something musician/producer Thomas Bartlett (also known as Doveman), it features lean, intimate readings of material by singer-songwriters and alt-pop genre-benders, without a show tune in the batch.
“Diary: April/May 2018” followed in September, with one nod to Patinkin’s past — Stephen Sondheim’s “Children And Art,” from “Sunday in the Park” — along with songs by Randy Newman, Bob Dylan, Harry Nilsson, Keren Ann and theater artist Taylor Mac, plus a pair of tunes Patinkin wrote more than 35 years ago.
The “Diary” series has now led Patinkin back to the stage: He’s touring music from the project, with stops including the Hawaii Theatre.
“Mandy Patinkin in Concert: Diaries 2018” mixes songs from the recent releases and traditional pop and musical-theater fare, with Adam Ben-David accompanying the star.
“It’ll just be a grand piano with Adam facing me, and an empty stage,” said Patinkin, sitting in the small rehearsal room in his apartment.
Speaking in a voice that could easily reach the back of the house — and seemed to, when the subject elicited particular enthusiasm or outrage — Patinkin, who also works with refugees as an ambassador for the International Rescue Committee, discussed his recent choices in personal and political terms. Here are edited excerpts from that conversation:
QUESTION: What sparked the “Diary” series?
ANSWER: I’d been working with (music director and accompanist) Paul Ford for 30 years, and when he retired a few years ago, I decided to take a break. I got tired of doing all the stuff I’d been doing. … Then my good friend Bob Hurwitz at Nonesuch Records put me together with Thomas Bartlett, and we started working together.
I told Thomas I didn’t want to work on anything that would remind me of other stuff I’d done, and he said, “Don’t worry, I’m from a whole different world.” So he sent me 350 songs, and I stayed home last Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and listened to all of them and chose 28 that spoke to me at that moment.
Since then we’ve picked some more. I’ve found a new life partner in music.
Q: You’ve released the recordings without announcing them before- hand — that’s also a more contemporary approach.
A: Thomas said, “Let’s just put it out there.” And at first I thought, what do you mean? I’d never done that, without concerts ready. But the idea was to capture what we’d done in that moment. Thomas and I are taking snapshots of where our minds are and reflecting on the world we’re living in.
Q: There’s certainly a bleakness to some of these songs.
A: There are personal connections to all these songs. “Dayton, Ohio — 1903” reminded me of my dad, for some reason. “My Mom” by Chocolate Genius just tore me apart; there are people in my life who are that mom.
“Going to a Town” (a Rufus Wainwright song) was interesting, because when I got to the word “America,” I was thinking about Jerusalem, and the stagnant peace process. I wanted to sing to end the occupation, to have a two-state solution. I didn’t want to change Rufus’ words, but Thomas said, “Rufus is a friend, and he’ll be fine with it.” So we sent it to him, and he wrote the most beautiful note imaginable, blessing it.
Q: There are a number of songs about women, and by them, on the second collection.
A: We’re using a video in this concert series for the first time, of “From the Air,” by Laurie Anderson. And I love Patty Griffin. Her “Making Pies,” that’s one I stole from the show with Taylor (Mac), “The Last Two People On Earth.” We’re going to do that show again some time.
Q: You wrote “Buckingham” and “Raggedy Ann” on the latest album. Do you plan to continue writing?
A: I thought about writing years ago, but I only knew a few chords, and I’m not a patient man. But now with these machines called cellphones, I can sing anything that comes to mind, words and music, and Thomas can play it, a thousand times better.
I know I’ve lived a life, and I have things to share about my life, then and now, and the world around me. So I’m curious to see if I do write over the next two or three years. But it’s not my No. 1 goal. I’m not the gifted genius who writes the songs. I’m the mailman, delivering the letters.
Q: Has playing a CIA agent on “Homeland” impacted you?
A: Absolutely. Saul will never die for me, even if he dies on the show — and I don’t know if he will yet. Because he’s taught me how to listen. However you label me — and I’ve been labeled in many different ways — he is calm, and he’s given me this platform to be an information conduit for those who have no voice.