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Letters to the Editor

For Sunday, October 28, 2012


Why we must keep church from state

"All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell." — Paul Broun, Republican congressman from Georgia.

"I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something God intended to happen." — Richard Mourdock, Indiana Republican candidate for the Senate.

This is why we need to separate church and state. When elected officials and candidates allow religious beliefs and dogma to pervert, corrupt and pollute their way of thinking, it sets a precedent that America should not be a part of. Just look back at history. The rise of the Ayatollah Khomeini and Afghanistan under the Taliban regime are examples of religious zealots repressing their people.

And you thought Halloween was scary. This is even scarier.

Robert K. Soberano

UH investigation served public well

After reading the article, "Legislative interference threatens long-term viability of UH," (Star- Advertiser, Island Voices, Oct. 22), I found Larry Geller's comments utterly and completely wrong and misleading. I cannot believe that someone in prestigious positions such as president of Kokua Council and member of the local board of Common Cause Hawaii, has such poor judgment.

Geller failed to understand the turmoil in the community stirred up by the Wonder Blunder. I believe the majority of University of Hawaii supporters welcomed state Sen. Donna Mercado Kim's committee's investigation of the matter. It was very thorough, and something the Board of Regents should have done but didn't. Kim represented the public, which clamored to get to the bottom of the Board of Regent's rubber stamping of President M.R.C. Greenwood's actions. Kim's committee acted on behalf of the public who elected them. It was not legislative interference, as Geller claims.

Albert B. Fu

Provide more parking for state employees

The state of Hawaii vacated the Kamamalu Building at 1010 Richards St. many years ago. Today, the building stands empty and graffiti adorns the outer walls.

Parking for state employees who work in the downtown area is at a premium with many workers walking one to two miles from designated state parking areas to their surrounding destinations. Presently, the wait list for state employee parking is five years.

Why not put this vacant building to much-needed use and build a parking structure for state employees? What a godsend that would be for those who keep our state up and running. It goes without saying that a fee for parking would be required, but make such a fee reasonable and within reach of a state employee's pocketbook. And why not set up a cafeteria for state employees and the pubic on the lower floor at street level, serving reasonably priced meals, and have interested parties bid for the concession?

Barbara Van Dine

Rail will help those who need help most

I agree with former Gov. George Ariyoshi that no group should carry an unfair burden of the negative environmental, social or economic impacts of public policies.

Many residents from Leeward communities are there because city planning policies encouraged development in those areas. These communities are also home to large numbers of lower-income workers who must rely on transit because of its affordability.

Using a car is not an option for many young, handicapped, elderly and low-income individuals, because of their inability to operate a vehicle or the cost of gasoline, insurance and parking. The amount of time consumed by traffic congestion also creates a barrier for many types of employment.

The rail system can make reliable transit available to all public transportation users, but would be a quantum leap for Oahu's disadvantaged populations. We should heed Ariyoshi's advice and ensure everyone has a fast, reliable and affordable transportation option.

Jun Yang

Not all pardons led to other crimes

I wish to express my feelings about the very negative advertising being put forth by Pacific Resource Partnership in the current race for Honolulu mayor. According to PRP, the number of pardons issued by Cayetano was 203. I am one of those individuals. Did PRP check out my personal history when they say that some have gone on to commit other crimes? That could be an invasion of my privacy. Did PRP check out everyone who received a pardon? Perhaps not.

As an individual who has received a pardon, I know that my hard work to overcome early struggles in life being Native Hawaiian, as well as being a Vietnam veteran, has meaning. This is probably true for many other people. The current advertising by PRP is insulting to anyone who has taken the initiative to turn their life around for the better. Don't believe what you see on TV.

Michael "Manu" Mook
Candidate for lieutenant governor, 2006 Waikiki


“Honolulu Hale halls decked 11 weeks before Christmas” Star-Advertiser, Oct. 22

>> It is actually nice to see the decorations … although it is way early. We all could use some holiday cheer right now. Too much Grinches about.

>> OK, so no decorating between Oct. 17 and Nov. 9. What about between Nov. 10 and Nov. 30 — decorating couldn't take place then? Putting decorations up more than eight weeks before Dec. 25 is a travesty. Remember what the holiday is supposed to be about?


“Long pilgrimage ends with canonization” Star-Advertiser, Oct. 22

>> Wish I could have been there. Brava, Saint Marianne Cope!


“Cayetano libel suit pursues multiple goals” Star-Advertiser, Oct. 23

>> Appears this lawsuit is timed for the election. Expect this frivolous suit to be dismissed soon after the election is over.

>> Any group that stands to benefit by lying in advertisements should be held accountable for misleading the public and damaging whoever dares to oppose them. We're with you, Ben.

>> When the election is over, I would like to know what individuals and entities, other than construction contractors, contributed funds to the PRP campaign.


“Low voting rate in Hawaii draws national interest” Star-Advertiser, Oct. 23

>> I vote but I hate election years. I hate the phone calls, the flyers and the ads.

>> People see the same ol’ faces each election and none of them generates excitement as far as being the candidate to turn things around. In other words, same ol’, same ol’. Voters get frustrated, then apathetic. BTW, not voting is also a right and it’s a vote for frustration with our elected officials.

>> Embarrassing. Voting is a civic responsibility. Many of us would not always have had this right; exercise it.


“Hirono, Lingle differ on value of the president’s jobs initiative” Star-Advertiser, Oct. 23

>> We are voting Mazie. She may not be worth much but Lingle’s dishonesty scares us.

>> When was the last time you heard from Mazie, on anything? While she was in office? When was the last time Mazie sponsored, or co-sponsored a bill? Answer: Never. Mazie needs to be outed.


“DOE plan would give all pupils computers” Star-Advertiser, Oct. 24

>> So who is going to cover the replacement costs of any laptop lost, stolen or otherwise missing in action? We already have seen our schools targeted by thieves taking anything not nailed down or locked up like Fort Knox.

>> Buying a tablet or computer for every student means less money for other things. How about funding early childhood education? Much more bang for the buck than buying electronics.

>> I am dismayed by the comments of people who think computer and other technology education is not needed in public schools. It is slowly becoming apparent that there is no industry that will not utilize computer technology in some way, and a working knowledge of computer operation is needed for any future job.


“State pursues investments in food production” Star-Advertiser, Oct. 24

>> Those building proposals are horrendously ugly. I think we should stick to the 400-foot limit. if all the other buildings adhere to the limit, why do we need one that’s ridiculously high in comparison?

>> If Kakaako is to represent the vision of Honolulu for the future, where is the visionary design, the exciting new ideas, the remarkable architecture that would compensate (if only a little) for turning our South Shore into a small version of Hong Kong? These designs are dull and uninspiring.

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Kuniarr wrote:
IRT Jun Young, as an alternative to traffic congestion, rail is not the solution.

The solution to traffic congestion exists in other cities of the US where the DOT of their respective states installed a Traffic Management System that employed an idea that relieves traffic congestion whereby the idea is implemented by modern technology. F.A.S.T. intends to bring into Honolulu the concept of Traffic Management System employed in other cities to bring Traffic Relief.

As for an alternative to traffic congestion for commuters in the West Side, we do not need Rail for that. Because the State has lined up three projects which in combination with the AM contra-flow Zipper makes commuting virtually traffic free. According to Peter M. Rogoff, FTA administrator, Rail is extremely expensive when it comes to Rail Asset Replacement compared to BRT or the bus.
on October 28,2012 | 01:49AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
For someone who lives in town, Jun Young is not selfish and understands how rail will help others who live far away on the leeward side. There are a lot of average locals who are struggling to own a house on Oahu. The only areas they can afford are on the west side and they are working two to three jobs to pay the mortgage. Because the affordable housing is far from downtown, they also have to suffer long commutes in congested traffic which diminishes their quality of life. Rail will provide jobs for more locals to own homes and also make the commute easier. Rail will take some cars off the road and people can ride the train if they don’t want to drive. The cost of the rail project has been structured such that our community can afford it. The feds are subsidizing $1.5 billion. Rail and transit oriented development will boost our economy so more people will have work. Why do some people want to deprive locals of having a better life? We are afraid that rich people, especially foreigners will squeeze us out. When housing is unaffordable, only rich people can live here. Rail will help the local people stay here and have a better life in the best place in the world. Like Jun Young, we should all support rail to help our island community as a whole.
on October 28,2012 | 02:25AM
rsgea wrote:
No one argues against reducing traffic congestion or providing better ways for West Oahu commuters to commute. However, RAIL IS NOT THE SOLUTION




on October 28,2012 | 03:00AM
rsgea wrote:




on October 28,2012 | 03:08AM
wiliki wrote:
Ben's plan will not solve the transportation problem. No matter how much less it costs, that's still too much if it doesn't solve the problem.
on October 28,2012 | 04:01AM
Truther wrote:

VOTE for BEN to stop the runaway train insanity and SAVE BILLIONS from being wasted on rail.

$10,000,000,000.00 and Counting.

on October 28,2012 | 04:16AM
OldDiver wrote:
wiliki is right, Cayetano's phony buses project will make traffic worse. It makes no sense spending billions which will increase property taxes on a half baked plan.
on October 28,2012 | 05:16AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Wiliki is wrong. Ben's Plan is NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFIC.
on October 28,2012 | 11:23AM
wiliki wrote:
Ben's plan doesn't make any good traffic projections, but it's obvious that it has so many holes, that it wont work.
on October 28,2012 | 03:18PM
polekasta wrote:
Neither will rail, so why are you pushing so hard for it?
on October 28,2012 | 05:02AM
bender wrote:
Sadly raily will not solve our transportation problems either. But it will cost a ton of money. Why not take that money and fix the congestion points, then we won't need either transportation plan.
on October 28,2012 | 07:02AM
rsgea wrote:
Another highly questionable expenditure of scarce funds was the City's decision to buy 8,735 tons of steel for $77.4 million for the up-in-the-air project. Then, even more questionable, they arranged to ship (by Matson no doubt) 3,000 tons of it so it arrives in early November. The news just broke this past week in a frontpage article in the Pacific Bus News. So where is the story in the S-A??

BTW, by comparison, the $77.4 million is 10-times the $7-million the City said they were trying to save by cutting TheBus routes recently.

Or, nearly 40x the $200-thousand lost in the Stevie Wonder Blunder. And look how much publicity the S-A gave those two events..... but ZERO coverage about the $77.4 million "play" money doled out to the "New Big-5" and other "payers".
on October 28,2012 | 08:05AM
rsgea wrote:
BTW, the PBN article, CAYETANO CRITICIZES HART'S $77M STEEL PURCHASE can be read in part on PBN's online website.
on October 28,2012 | 08:09AM
quint34 wrote:
Rail will boost our economy when we need it with solid jobs. When gas is 6 dollars a gallon people will ride it. That is right around the corner.
on October 28,2012 | 08:35AM
tiki886 wrote:
quint: Only if Obama gets reelected.
on October 28,2012 | 12:40PM
wiliki wrote:
Rail has done the work to make solid projections on ridership and traffic congestion. These numbers are good and may be a little conservative. IOW, ridership could be even higher than expected when people begin to try the system and realize the benefits. Car dealers have good reason to fear the competition. Losing 40,000 new sales is a lot of money.
on October 28,2012 | 03:21PM
rsgea wrote:
F.A.S.T. will solve the traffic-congestion problem a lot better than Rail.

So why spend 5-times as much on something not even as effective as a solution that works better, can service more people, and can be in place much sooner?

on October 28,2012 | 07:28AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
FAST is sloe, and a farse.
on October 28,2012 | 05:21PM
Kuniarr wrote:
on October 28,2012 | 11:22AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
No one can guarentee that kuno.
on October 28,2012 | 05:22PM
quint34 wrote:
Vote character. Ben has little.
on October 28,2012 | 08:24AM
SomebodyElse wrote:
But he's local, c'mon, give him a job!
on October 28,2012 | 08:37AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Caldwell is local kine too.
on October 28,2012 | 05:23PM
pakeheat wrote:
quint34 your earlier posts suggests that if gas goes to 6 gallon people will ride it? OMG you sure know how to read people's mind, LOL. Rail only serves a very small portion of Oahu, so tell me how does the North shore, Windward, and East side will ride it?
on October 28,2012 | 04:33PM
Kuniarr wrote:
on October 28,2012 | 11:22AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
on October 28,2012 | 05:23PM
DPK wrote:
ukblu: The one fact never mentioned by any rail supporter is how much a rail ticket will cost the individual. Will the ticket cost include bus fare to the rail station and bus fare to the final destination? Until that question is answered, how can anyone say that locals who are struggling financially will even be able to afford rail transportation?
on October 28,2012 | 07:24AM
soundofreason wrote:
I believe Jun is the same inidividual who, in a Feb 2010 article, wanted to prevent credit checks from being done on low income housing tenants at a time when............ "In December, more than 20 percent of the thousands of households in public housing were behind on their rent, with the Hawai'i Public Housing Authority owed as much as $1 million."

We can't afford anymore of Mr. Young's "advice".

on October 28,2012 | 08:07AM
wiliki wrote:
Jun Yang notes that Gov Ariyoshi provided good advice to Honolulu residents. We should all pay more attention to our kupunas.
on October 28,2012 | 03:59AM
Truther wrote:
Provided they have gone senile.
on October 28,2012 | 04:17AM
wiliki wrote:
Nope.... check out the advice first. You'll see that it's well thought out and expressed.
on October 28,2012 | 02:38PM
pakeheat wrote:
wiliki, well thought out and expressed? Just an opinion and not a fact.
on October 28,2012 | 04:33PM
SomebodyElse wrote:
Yes, I agree, we should listen to Judge Heen.
on October 28,2012 | 08:24PM
polekasta wrote:
Jun Yang's second sentence says it all. Jun wrote "Many residents from Leeward communities are there because city planning policies encouraged development in those areas". It was also in the city's planning policies that jobs would also be created out in the Leeward communities so those living in the areas wouldn't have to drive into town to work. Where's the jobs? Kapolei was developed to become Oahu's second city, but where's the jobs to support the people who live in the area?
on October 28,2012 | 05:12AM
DPK wrote:
polekasta: right on! The local government could create a tax policy to entice businesses to relocate to the west end. If, as rail supporters state, that rail is needed to move west end people to their jobs, it becomes obvious that moving the jobs to where the people live would be a lot cheaper. Pro-railers never discuss this because it eliminates their main reason for the silly train.
on October 28,2012 | 07:30AM
wiliki wrote:
There's few jobs in the area because the state hasn't figured out how to create more high tech jobs in this area that it had planned to have out here. It's the state that needs to create the need tax policy.

Wherever the jobs are in the corridor, rail is needed for transport. That's been part of the plan for a long time. Democrats and Governors-- Democratic as well as Republican-- have faught over this issue for decaqdes.

The latest flap in terms of PLDC procedures to use in developing public lands is another of these things. Rather than talk about procedures to expedite development, we are talking about elimination of the law.

on October 28,2012 | 02:48PM
polekasta wrote:
It's not because the state hasn't figured out how to create more high tech jobs, the state needs to ease up and offer incentives to attract more companies to come to Hawaii and set up shop. How many companies came to Hawaii to do business to only get driven out by the states high taxes and stuff. The state gives incentives to the movie industry to attract business but can't do it for other companies?
on October 28,2012 | 09:17PM
sailfish1 wrote:
Very few companies will move to Hawaii from the mainland. Hawaii will put companies too far away from suppliers and markets. In addition, Hawaii lacks a skilled labor force.
on October 29,2012 | 01:18AM
Malani wrote:
What the City did was give the people what they thought the people wanted to hear. It tickled their ears the first time around and again the City is tickling their ears that Rail is the solution coming out from their beloved community. So who is not listening and never learn from the first snow job?
on October 28,2012 | 07:53AM
pakeheat wrote:
Yes Malani, once they dip their beak into that kool-aid, nothing will bring back the common sense in them
on October 28,2012 | 12:10PM
sailfish1 wrote:
Most of the jobs in Hawaii are with the government - federal, state, and county. Don't you notice that when there is a government holiday, the traffic is a whole lot better?
on October 29,2012 | 01:13AM
summer43 wrote:
Hirono only serves ONE Master: Obama! She said it herself that bi-particant is not possible! Will she work with a Republican President if Obama is not re-elected? Think about it people... What has she accomplished in the past few years?
on October 28,2012 | 05:41AM
bender wrote:
I have to disagree. Hirono serves Inouye.
on October 28,2012 | 07:03AM
soundofreason wrote:
I have to disagree. Hirono serves herself.
on October 28,2012 | 10:07AM
wiliki wrote:
Disagree too... Hirono serves the people's needs.

Also just a warning to other posters seems that this Forum is a little unstable today. Perhaps they are testing new software. I have multiple windows open from links in the "headlines" email I get from the Star-Advertiser ordinarily when I open one, I log in and the others later open up in a logged in condition. I'm not sure but today I assumed that I was logged in because the second window had the full article and comment box when I opened it, but my postings came out as "Anonymous". So I went up to the top and logged in. At this point the window mashed into the same window as the one which I had logged in. I had two identical windows.... Now I open a new window from the link, and log in. I'm sure this discrepancy will be fixed. Just a warning.

on October 28,2012 | 03:07PM
wiliki wrote:
Another weird thing is that my e-replica no longer works in Firefox. I recently updated the browser and I can no longer login. It still works in Internet Explorer. Weird... looks like my setup has somehow changed.
on October 28,2012 | 03:13PM
palani wrote:
Re: Why we must keep church from state

When elected officials and candidates allow religious beliefs and dogma to pervert, corrupt and pollute their way of thinking, it sets a precedent that America should not be a part of.

And who decides what is correct religious ideology and what is correct political ideology, Mr. Soberano? Explain to me which of the Ten Commandments you find offensive or objectionable. We have plenty of political zealots on both the left and the right who threaten our individual liberties and a way of life that is defined by relativistic cultural and historical norms, which are not always based on reason and truth.

Karl Marx once wrote that "religion is the opiate of the people". His followers in communist Russia and China outlawed it, and attempted to substitute the state in its place. Our founding fathers recognized that moral authority comes from a higher power than Man and his temporal political institutions.

on October 28,2012 | 06:01AM
bender wrote:
If you keep ideology out of politicis then there is no correct or incorrect ideology. Pretty simple huh?
on October 28,2012 | 07:04AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
If you keep ideology out of politics, it wouldn't be politics.Unfortunately, the ideologies espoused by our politicians reflect not only an ideology but the intersts of the campaign contributors who benefit from those ideologies. Wall Street hates regulation or any constraints on greed, and the politicians who fail to protect consumers by imposing regulations, from Mitch McConnell to Barack Obama, enjoy corporate contributions. Likewise for labor unions, oil companies, pharmaceutical manufacturers and other special interests.
on October 28,2012 | 08:03AM
palani wrote:
Dang, I mostly have to agree with you, BluesBreaker, although your "constraints on greed" comment smacks of twisted redistributionist ideology. There is nothing inherently wrong about pursuing one's own self-interest, and free enterprise has always been the guiding force behind human progress, equality, and prosperity.

But you make my point. Who decides which ideology is the "right" one? Mr. Soberanto seems to think he should be the judge, while delusional bender fails to see that he, too, is ideological.

on October 28,2012 | 11:46AM
thos wrote:
Q: Who decides which ideology is the "right" one? A: The voters.
on October 29,2012 | 07:24AM
Malani wrote:
palani wrote, And who decides what is correct religious ideology and what is correct political ideology. Answer: The Word of God. Unfortunally, many don't believe and many are too lazy to read what the Word of God says.
on October 28,2012 | 07:47AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
YOUR God? Or my God? Or someone else's God? There's the problem.

I won't tell you who and how to worship and I would appreciate the same courtesy in return. Nor should either of us get to legislate that "word". This is a land governed by the Constitution, not a religious doctrine.

on October 28,2012 | 08:42AM
quint34 wrote:
Only one God and you and me will meet Him one day. Find the truth.
on October 28,2012 | 09:21AM
Malani wrote:
Amen and Amen quint34. And at the speed of all the earthquakes and wars foldtold in Matthew 24: we'll meet him sooner.
on October 28,2012 | 01:06PM
daniwitz13 wrote:
Me thinks you mix up GOD with religion and Churches. GOD is NOT a Church. Does GOD need Churches? What religion does GOD belong to? GOD IS GOD. Pity.
on October 28,2012 | 11:17AM
palani wrote:
Yes to that, daniwitz13!
on October 28,2012 | 11:31AM
Malani wrote:
Nope, I don't got nothing mixed up with my God because I know that my God is not a religion nor a Church. We the people need God and we the people are the Church. Without people there would be not church. My friend daniwitz13 you need the God that I serve. His name is The Great I am, the God of Israel, the Savior who is the only One that can forgive you of your sins. You got nothing to lose. Ask Him into your heart this day.
on October 28,2012 | 01:13PM
Malani wrote:
My God, the One and Only true Living God. The Creator of Heavan and Earth. My God who gave His only begotton Son Jesus Christ to die for your sins and the sins of all mankind. This land might be governed by the Constitution but I have the right to express my opinion. So it works both ways DowntownGreen. I don't like your comments and would appreciate the same courtesty in return.
on October 28,2012 | 01:02PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
And the below postings just help to prove my point. You people are scary.
on October 28,2012 | 03:13PM
thos wrote:
Those who are that timid are not mature enough to exercise the franchise.
on October 29,2012 | 07:27AM
Dimbulb wrote:
IRT Barbara Van Dine Honolulu Provide more parking for state employees Maybe state employees should start using public transportation instead of driving their own vehicles and demanding the taxpayers provide parking for them. You know as well as I do, the fee for parking would be a joke. Use da bus.
on October 28,2012 | 06:34AM
bender wrote:
And that is heavily subsidized taxpayer provided parking. Maybe some of those state offices should be moved out to Kapolei. One has to wonder if the PLDC has plans for that property. Maybe use it for another high rise tower which seems to be the fashion these days.
on October 28,2012 | 07:07AM
livinginhawaii wrote:
Agreed. There should be no subsidized parking for city and state employees. They should be paying market rates along with everyone else should they want to avoid the public transportation system.
on October 28,2012 | 11:11AM
cajaybird wrote:
Why no discussion about the Benghazi situation. I can only guess that if it is ever discussed, it will conveniently be done after the election.
on October 28,2012 | 07:55AM
quint34 wrote:
Every time a Marine is buried. Shameful actions by our current administration!!
on October 28,2012 | 08:29AM
Pacej001 wrote:
Good point. Once again, our news media fail us. However, some information is leaking out-- that the embassy staff called for help three times and were denied three times, that one of the defenders employed a Ground Laser Designator against a target, commonly done only if there is some sort of strike asset (drone, aircraft, etc.) available to hit the target, that the director of the CIA has denied that the CIA refused to answer the three calls for help. More info. is leaking out as time passes. Meanwhile, the president is either lying or misleading the public (spontaneous attack sparked by a video or, in the second debate, that he designated the event a terrorist attack early on) and dodging the question (recent interviews) and the national media is his willing accomplice in pushing this whole thing beyond the election. Ask yourself this question: If Geo. Bush were up for reelection under these circumstances, would the press be handling the story in the same way? Obvious answer. We deserve an answer to these two questions right now: 1. Who turned down the request for more security in Benghazi before the attack? If Hillary Clinton, she needs to go. 2. Who turned down the three request for help during the attack? If Paneta, he goes. If the President, he goes. There is no excuse for not trying to move heaven and earth to save the defenders. If that wasn't done, even attempted, these weak little men and women should be gone.
on October 28,2012 | 09:20AM
cajaybird wrote:
great summary of a bad situation. I hope the editors of the SA read your comments. thx.
on October 28,2012 | 11:09AM
Paulh808 wrote:
Well said Pace, this rag of a so called newspaper is part of the big cover up to help get this POS Administration re-elected. To not help our people in distress was unheard of in this country prior to this administration. If Repubs were in charge this story would front page top of the fold everyday. Shame on you SA.
on October 28,2012 | 11:18AM
soundofreason wrote:
"We should heed Ariyoshi's advice and ensure everyone has a fast, reliable and affordable transportation option.">> Since you threw the word "affordable" in there.......RAIL does not qualify.
on October 28,2012 | 07:55AM
mikethenovice wrote:
Surely we don't have enough elderly. disable to justify spending all that money on the rail. Two hours in the morning rush hour and two hours in the afternoon gridlock is the only time the rail will be filled to capacity.The city bus has been modified recently to adjust to everyones needs on a feasible rate.
on October 28,2012 | 08:01AM
mikethenovice wrote:
I'm looking past Cayetano's past deeds of good and bad just to focus on the enormous cost the rail will burden Hawaii's taxpayers, and Ben's alternatives that are much more reasonable.
on October 28,2012 | 08:04AM
mikethenovice wrote:
A vote for Linda Lingle is actually a vote for Mitt Romney who sides more to the wealthy citizens. While Linda may have good intentions, it's the power towards Romney that concern America.
on October 28,2012 | 08:06AM
DPK wrote:
mikethenovice: Don't forget that Obama's a millionaire. Clinton's worth tens of millions after building on his White House duty.
on October 28,2012 | 09:50AM
Pacej001 wrote:
Oh yeah, eeevvil rich Republicans. Let's just ignore the fact that the net worth of the prototype for environment-loving liberals, Al Gore, went from $2million to around $100million since he left office. Looks like saving the planet and protecting the poor been berry,berry good for Al.
on October 28,2012 | 11:44AM
Nevadan wrote:
Obama is for Wall Street every time. He is George W Bush II: (1) Hired Wall Street guy, name Geithner, for Sec of Treasury; (2) continue Bush's TARP; (3) Bailed out Wall Street, and ignored the middle class; (4) continued Bush's tax cut for the rich in Dec 2010. Of course, now that he needs the middle class, he reversed himself and demanded to discontinue Bush's tax cut for the wealthy. Check them out yourself. The rich got much richer under Obama's watch. The middle class lost $4,300 per person per year.
on October 28,2012 | 01:02PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
You forgot Barry's economic adviser was Jeffrey Immelt from GE - the single biggest outsourcer of US jobs and a company that paid zero taxes on billions of earnings.
on October 28,2012 | 04:23PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
You forgot Rmoney took US tax money and gave it to his Swiss account. Also he outsourced money to China foe cheaper labor and higher profits for his clients. Guys like Koch and Trumpet head.
on October 28,2012 | 05:30PM
quint34 wrote:
"religious beliefs and dogma to pervert, corrupt and pollute their way of thinking, it sets a precedent that America should not be a part of." WOW sound like a sick puppy. I am our founding father didn't leave their beliefs on the street. God bless America!!!
on October 28,2012 | 09:18AM
Malani wrote:
Amen to your coments. How sad that our Country has called right wrong and wrong right. Judgment day is approaching.
on October 28,2012 | 01:16PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Perhaps you should pack your toothbrush.
on October 28,2012 | 10:26PM
piimahoe wrote:
Oh well I guess lying about the financial stability of this monstrous public works project is not the issue, everyone seems to be concerned about job creation, just think with all that is needing to be fixed sewers roads there will be more jobs available to the working class public and LOCAL private contractors just by doing what has been neglected over the years. Please don;t ship the monies overseas cause it will not help generate the economy here in Hawaii just the big companies who are already digging in their heels only to leave when we are strapped with a big piece of rusting ferrous metal. Don't grumble when the property taxes drastically increase to fund the short comings of the rail funding, as we all know when the politicians are in abind financially just raise the taxes accordingly. Why not we the people or should i say sheeple are so damn gullible that it's crazy,Get ready for the tax collectors to come calling with more requests for monies due to most of this project not generating enough funds to be solvent and robbing monies from core services to pay to balance the rails finances. As for that 1.5 B it will be a mere fraction of what will be needed to complete this project on budget. Remember the rainy day fund that was approved promising that it would never ever be used well guess what it was and is still being used under the guise of the courts stopping the rail and hart saying we need to pay for delays because of that. Just another one of many lies that will be told as the rail ceases to be self sustaining and we as sheeple continue to follow lock step without using our voting electoral to keep the future of Hawaii pristine and this may sound like a joke but as Affordable As Possible..
on October 28,2012 | 02:08PM
sailfish1 wrote:
IRT Barbara Dine - We should not be building more parking for State employees or any other government employees. If they need parking, they can park in private parking lots. The parking fees for government workers should also be raised to the outside market rate. They already get a better salary and benefits than private company employees. Why do they need more benefits?
on October 29,2012 | 12:56AM