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Romney accepts nomination; promises to create 12M jobs

By Associated Press

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LAST UPDATED: 06:04 p.m. HST, Aug 30, 2012


TAMPA, Fla. >> Mitt Romney launched his fall campaign for the White House tonight with a rousing, remarkably personal speech to the Republican National convention and a prime-time TV audience, proclaiming that America needs “jobs, lots of jobs” and promising to create 12 million of them in perilous economic times.

“Now is the time to restore the promise of America,” Romney said to a nation struggling with 8.3 percent unemployment and the slowest economic recovery in decades.

Often viewed as a distant politician, Romney made a press-the-flesh entrance into the hall, walking slowly down one of the convention aisles and shaking hands with dozens of delegates. The hall erupted in cheers when he reached the stage and waved to his cheering, chanting supporters before beginning to speak.

“I accept your nomination for president,” he said, to more cheers. Then he pivoted into personal details of family life, recounting his youth  as a Mormon, the son of parents devoted to one another, then a married man with five rambunctious sons.  

He choked up at least twice, including when he recalled how he and wife Ann would awake to find “a pile of kids asleep in our room.”

He was unstinting in his criticism of President Barack Obama, his Democratic quarry in a close and uncertain race for the White House, and drew cheers when he vowed to repeal Obama’s signature health care law. 

“This president can tell us it was someone else’s fault. This president can tell us that the next four years he’ll get it right. But this president cannot tell us that you are better off today than when he took office,” Romney declared.

“I will begin my presidency with a jobs tour. President Obama began his presidency with an apology tour,” he said, then accusing the incumbent of failing to support Israel while exercising patience with its arch-enemy, Iran. 

Clint Eastwood, legendary Hollywood tough guy, put the case for ousting Obama plainly moments before Romney made his entrance. “When somebody does not do the job, you’ve got to let ‘em go,” he said to the cheers of thousands in the packed convention hall. 

Beyond the heartfelt personal testimonials and political hoopla, the evening marked one of a very few opportunities any presidential challenger is granted to appeal to millions of voters in a single night. 

The two-month campaign to come includes other big moments — principally a series of one-on-one debates with Democrat Obama — in a race for the White House that has been close for months. In excess of $500 million has been spent on campaign television commercials so far, almost all of it in the battleground states of Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado and Nevada. 

Romney holds a fundraising advantage over Obama, and his high command hopes to expand the electoral map soon if post-convention polls in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and perhaps elsewhere indicate it’s worth the investment. 






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Changalang wrote:
Can a get an order of bland chicken noodle soup with two soda crackers on the side. I am trying to cut the excitement out of my diet completely. Thanks for accommodating. LOL.
on August 10,2012 | 06:43PM
Changalang wrote:
Paul Ryan to be announced on the U.S.S. Wisconsin in Virginia? Wow, to turn his back on rubio is a huge mistake. Four more years, as predicted..
on August 10,2012 | 07:24PM
OldDiver wrote:
Ryan was picked as a distraction to get people's mind off Romney's tax returns.
on August 10,2012 | 08:52PM
Hullstown wrote:
Nah, Ryan was picked so we can see more commercials where *both* Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are murdering people! I can't wait to see what you classy Democrats come up with - if Romney can't kill someone via cancer, Ryan will be there to finnish the job with a shotgun!
on August 10,2012 | 08:56PM
Changalang wrote:
Actually, Ryan's budget will probably be referenced as to how it will limit access for seniors to chemo-therapy. That way it can be built off the social shock memory to have broad based fear appeal to the demographic that still counts in elections, because they show up and vote as a block to keep their goodies at the expense of all others. With Obamacare as the law of the land, Ryan's budget is a bulls eye gift.
on August 10,2012 | 09:26PM
OldDiver wrote:
Yup, $8,500 Medicare voucher to purchase a $20,000 health insurance policy won't be going over well with seniors.
on August 10,2012 | 09:33PM
Toneyuki wrote:
Unless of course the voucher is bigger and the policy doesn't cost 20K. The point my socialist friend is that companies will compete for the money and lower costs. In time it will lower costs and still cover all seniors. The path we are on now is UNSUSTAINABLE. If we don't change it in a few decades NO seniors will have insurance.
on August 12,2012 | 03:46PM
mitt_grund wrote:
Now the voucher is $8,500? It's better than the $6,500 that first came up. Do you think he will waffle as much as he has on abortion. But talk about flip-flops. This guy has moved all the way to the right from his original middle ground. Shows you the Tea Party is in control.
on August 30,2012 | 10:46PM
Hullstown wrote:
Yeah, I've seen *tons* of commercials where President Obama is detailing what his *prized* legislation has in store for seniors.
on August 10,2012 | 09:54PM
OldDiver wrote:
Ryan was voted the "biggest brown noser" in high school. Ryan is Mitt's kind of guy.
on August 11,2012 | 06:59AM
Hullstown wrote:
That's funny, OD because according to liberals, Romney was a bully in high school.
on August 11,2012 | 09:14AM
Rite80 wrote:
I guess Mitt's acting like a bully in high school is the reason Mitt is being called a bully.
on August 11,2012 | 10:41AM
soshaljustic wrote:
Think of all the Title II education benefits for disabled students that will not go to the states under the ADA. We will die instead of getting the medical care we need to live, and the voc rehab for adults that are otherwise employed, oh joy, toto is the bad witch dead?
on August 11,2012 | 01:59PM
WesleySMori wrote:
"TRUE"!!!!
on August 30,2012 | 04:34PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Ah yes. The Ryan budget: Grandma over the cliff AFTER terminating her chemo. Funny thing, the oldsters seem to like the guy. Maybe Obama needs more graphic imagery than a simple chemo-less cliff toss for the old lady. Got it. Ryan torches the poor lady first: Flaming, chemo-less cliff toss. That's the ticket.---- Face it. The argument, Obamacare vs. Medicare has been won. The democrats laid the land mind, then promptly stepped on it.
on August 30,2012 | 05:23AM
Hullstown wrote:
If you are defending PPACA with the argument of "limited access" to care, you're more ignorant than I thought - and that's impressive.
on August 30,2012 | 09:02PM
IEBuzzin wrote:
can't wait to see the Son of Boss commercials....oh woe is she
on August 11,2012 | 10:58AM
soshaljustic wrote:
Gee whiz, some of us from surrounding Milwaukee Counties, are disabled, myself brain disabled, when we use social security, to go to college at UH. Not Ryan. He just uses Daddy's social security and then wants to decimate the elder, disabled, and other SSI benefits available to other kids, the very same benefits HE USED, with his simple charisma.lol Janesville, i am sorry you will be so shamed by this sham of a man when this scam is revealed. Feed a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a ryan how to fish, he sits on a boat and drinks beer all day. tee hee
on August 11,2012 | 01:56PM
Toneyuki wrote:
Pointing out the corruption in the system? Why on earth would anyone defend SS being used to pay for college? That's not what it was set up for. No wonder it's in such bad shape.
on August 12,2012 | 03:48PM
Changalang wrote:
I believe Romney ignored his adviser's call for Rubio based on the potential stain on him from use of his Party credit card for personal purchases and his support of a Rep from Florida that is in hot water. Romney wants someone squeaky clean. Also, the Senate math right now has an even split; so he would want someone who can rule that body as Senate President in an even split scenario. The problem is that all the maps do not have Romney even within striking distance without Florida. Jeb Bush at the Convention won't be enough. These two soda crackers are running against Obama; the America Idol. Charisma is everything. Paul "Austerity for America" Ryan gives enough opposition research material on policy, legislation, and voting record alone for Axelrod to keep the subject off of the economy. Romney should have checked the approval rating of the House leadership before picking the youthful reincarnation of Ebeneser Scrooge. It really could not have been a worse systemic pick for Romney's campaign. Maybe Democrats have bought Romney off. LOL.
on August 10,2012 | 09:23PM
copperwire9 wrote:
Yep. Everything you said.
on August 10,2012 | 09:30PM
droid wrote:
Good call on “House leadership approval rating” part. Romney could have had someone who had conservative chops, could draw independents, youth appeal and Southern votes in Rand Paul. Instead, he chose Paul Ryan who has a mostly negative reputation outside of his home state — even among Republicans. I can’t wait until the Republican National Convention next month. Ron Paul delegates are going to have a field day!
on August 10,2012 | 09:52PM
beachbum11 wrote:
And OD what were you voted? Starts with a D.
on August 11,2012 | 09:45AM
Toneyuki wrote:
Is there some reason you keep using racist terms to describe Romney and Ryan?
on August 12,2012 | 03:50PM
group22 wrote:
Ryan was picked to focus on the issue, the economy. Romney's tax returns is a distraction to get people's minds off Obama's pathetic record.
on August 11,2012 | 03:14AM
hawaiikone wrote:
If enough attention is focused on issues other than what obama intentions are then no one will realize obama is on the brink of slamming us with the largest tax increase in history. He's cleverly and smoothly gotten many to think the rich are being targeted solely, but the truth is everyone, down to the lowest income levels, will be hugely affected. Do the homework, quit listening to Maddow and other talk show hosts. It's scary what's about to happen to us.
on August 11,2012 | 06:36AM
NITRO08 wrote:
Did my home work you are wrong open your eyes and stop watching fox news. Think for your self republicans are run by the rich which is killing middle class Amerca. LOOK AT THEM BOTH WHITE AND LIE THROUGH THER TEETH! ALSO MITT IS THE FLIP FLOP MAN CHANGING HIS MIND EVERY SO OFTEN. THINK ABOUT IT HE WAS A GOVERNOR ONLY FOUR YEARS THEY KICKED HIM OUT AFTER ONLY FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE! RYAN IS THE TEA PARTY KING THE TEA PARTY IS FINANCE BY THE KOCH BROTHERS AND OTHER RICH PEOPLE FOOLING THE MIDDLE CLASS INTO THINKING THE THE MIDDLE CLASS RUNS IT.
on August 30,2012 | 07:26AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Really, NITRO08, not only is there high unemployment today but also wages and salaries are down. The thing with this continuing battle between Democrat vs. Republican is that both are completely overlooking or actually ignorant of the fact that the US is not the giant and muscled US of the 1940's but an aging former heavyweight champion.

It is unbelievable that until now both Democrats and Republicans are so consumed with their partisan politics that they fail to even recognize the very thing that made the US the heavy weight champion of the world in the 1940's.

The US created a monster called China by shifting almost all its manufacturing to China so much so that China today is becoming a military giant.

In the 1940's anyone who goes to a general merchandise store such as Sears, practically all consumer goods sold in that store are labelled MADE IN USA. Go to a Walmart store today and most of the consumer goods sold there are labelled MADE IN CHINA. That difference between the US of 1940 and the US of 2012 tells exactly what ails the US. From its gargantuan budget and foreign trade deficit.
on August 30,2012 | 01:53PM
Anonymous wrote:
2016 Obama - go see it. Then you'll be flip flopping. Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? Of course not because you're still living with mommy and daddy.
on August 31,2012 | 02:26AM
poidragon wrote:
you can tack that one on G Bush and company! Yes, he it was who passed the tax cuts that are now, threatening to increase everyone's taxes after the wealthy got their share of the Bush stimulus plan!
on August 30,2012 | 02:31PM
Anonymous wrote:
It pales in comparison to the debt accrued by this $tupid ni@@er
on August 31,2012 | 02:29AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
then show us the pala pala willard.....
on August 11,2012 | 01:24PM
beachbum11 wrote:
You are too much. Stop smoking that junk from neil
on August 11,2012 | 09:44AM
SteveToo wrote:
To early for Rubio. Don't have enough time in to be VP or president. Like Obama not enough experience. But a Good Man for sure. His time will come.
on August 10,2012 | 10:55PM
NITRO08 wrote:
AND MITT GOT EXPERIENCE AFTER ONLY FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE AS A GOVERNOR I DON'T THINK SO! RUNNING A BIG CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS RUNNING A COUNTRY! HE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HOW BAD GOVERNMENT IS BUT HE USED IT EVERY CHANCE HE GOT!
on August 30,2012 | 07:30AM
Kuniarr wrote:
The experience of Romney as governor makes Romney a better president than a lawyer and legislator who became president and failed completely in accomplishing all the things in his CHANGE mantra.
on August 30,2012 | 01:57PM
GorillaSmith wrote:
Your Caps Lock key appears to be malfunctioning. It might also be having a negative impact on your grammar.
on August 30,2012 | 03:32PM
Descartes22 wrote:
The lightweight Rubio would have pandered in a different way than the Ryan pandering. Ryan feeds into the far right, which sees this election as akin to Goldwater in 1964 - that is a precursor to future elections. When Romney loses, Ryan is the frontrunner in 2016. The reactionary nutcases who rule the GOP relish this scenario. The Ryan selection is also indicative of the Romney camp's panicky, hail Mary-ish posture.
on August 11,2012 | 08:02AM
Changalang wrote:
Agree that Camp Romney is in panic. Without Rubio, Team Obama just needs to focus on Florida to kill all of Romney Electoral Vote Map possibilities. Romney has an edge on General money available. With Florida locked, Team Romney could have spread Obama out and spend him in dogfights in 9 toss ups. Now, Florida focus destroys Romney's hopes. I was hoping this election would be more exciting, but when the best the Republicans have to offer are so messed up, it takes the fun out of the President's coming victory. What is a Veep, but a cheerleader and a home Stae insurance policy. Maybe the GOP is playing long ball to set up Ryan for 2016. Clinton will destroy them in 2016 as well. When one third of the country is on gov't sustenance, they will never vote against their own quality of life. Rove knew this. Latinos are THE future dominant voting block.
on August 11,2012 | 04:18PM
WesleySMori wrote:
Touche "CHANGALANG"!! "TOUCHE"!!! On Another NOTE, IT's GOOD TO HEAR From YOU AGAIN On The "BLOGS", FOR "YOU'VE BEEN LOST IN ACTION" For AWHILE!! :-) !!!! "GOD BLESS HAWAII & AMERICA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on August 30,2012 | 05:12PM
Pacej001 wrote:
I think I can understand why the Ryan selection terrifies you. (Any psych major can describe the use of indifference to mask fear.) Why would you or other smart progressives be fearful? Because Ryan, the single politician most able to shred Obama's credibility, has just been given a megaphone that even the Obama press can't shut off. The destructive emptiness of Obama's vision is about to get its fifteen minutes of fame. Oh, he may still win the election, but his credibility and authority will not survive with him. What will survive from are a few facts, made inarguable by the campaign: Uncontrolled debt, driven mainly by entitlements, will destroy the country unless checked. Without significant cuts to Federal spending, the level of taxation (a 60% to 80% increase in federal tax revenue) required to support Obama's welfare state would crush our economy. In a second term, Mr. Obama will be in a box of his own making and the Republican Congress will keep him there.
on August 11,2012 | 11:41AM
soshaljustic wrote:
'ceptin Ryan used his SSI benefit from his Daddy to go to college. Needed that entitlement, he did! He could work too, he could, but he wuz only a hot dog in a weinermobile.lol
on August 11,2012 | 02:11PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Ryan's plan to deal with entitlements, if that's what you're talking about, doesn't touch Social Security. Maybe he heard Harry Reid pronounce that Social Security was in great shape and decided not to "gut" it, to use you guy's favorite Ryanword, like he plans to "gut" all the other entitlements. Meanwhile, back in the real world, unless we do something, Medicare becomes insolvent within ten years, the trust fund backing Social Security Disability runs out of money in less than five, and Social Security itself goes permanently into the red (more going out than coming in) this year or the next or was that last year. So LOL all you want, but all these numbers and trust fund things that confuse progressives so much are about to become crystal clear.
on August 11,2012 | 04:53PM
Toneyuki wrote:
And how did Obama pay for college? Foreign aid maybe? We don't know, he won't release his college records. What does he have to hide?
on August 12,2012 | 03:53PM
NITRO08 wrote:
AND HOW DID MITT GO TO COLLEGE DADDY HAD ALLOT OF MONEY SO MITT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MIDDLE CLASS GO THROUGH TO SURVIVE HE WAS BORN RICH! BY THE WAY I WENT TO COLLEGE ON SOCIAL SECURITY CAUSE MY DAD DIED WHEN I WAS 16. THIS ELECTION IS NOT RYAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IT'S MITT THE FLIP FLOP MAN!
on August 30,2012 | 07:40AM
Changalang wrote:
The only ones in terror here are the GOP dumb-bots realizing that the Change we need is now permanent as OUR country moves FORWARD without them. LOL. The Senate map is at 50/50, making Biden President of the Senate in worse case scenario. Beautiful. :)
on August 11,2012 | 04:21PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Yep. That would be a worse case scenario.
on August 11,2012 | 05:03PM
Changalang wrote:
Best case scenario is a 3 Democratic Senate seat Majority; we can live with anything between our best and your worse case. Can You? You'll have to for four more years. :)
on August 11,2012 | 06:05PM
Pacej001 wrote:
LOL. Evidently you haven't noticed the narrowing of the polls lately. This thing is going to be the landslide you predicted, just not in the direction you predicted. And what kind of "bump" would you expect the DNC to generate in NC with the "War on Women" theme. The scent of panic is in the air. I like it.
on August 30,2012 | 05:17AM
dlum003 wrote:
Mitt Romney’s mission in this election: connect with overweight, rich, selfish, greedy, tax evading racist white Americans who live by simplistic slogans on a personal level.
on August 30,2012 | 01:30PM
DAGR81 wrote:
obama mission is to annoint himself at all costs.
on August 30,2012 | 01:42PM
motoxdad wrote:
Then hold the noodles. lol
on August 30,2012 | 08:29PM
mitt_grund wrote:
SA -- Interesting! How can a story written today have a chain of comments dated August 11, 2012? These comments are probably from when Romney first announced Ryan as running mate. So, where are the comments on Romney's acceptance speech? And how did these regurgitate back into the present. Your IT staff needs to look into this. Even has a comment I made that disappeared when first input, but here it is again, with a reply attached.
on August 30,2012 | 11:10PM
onevoice82 wrote:
Could be worse you know......remember Palin?
on August 10,2012 | 07:35PM
palani wrote:
That's right. And how about Biden? What a joke!
on August 11,2012 | 05:20AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
Biden is the vice-president and will be again, palin and ryan will never ever hold that position. so shame, so lame......
on August 11,2012 | 11:04AM
NITRO08 wrote:
SAME!
on August 11,2012 | 07:57AM
false wrote:
false3. Not a bad choice. Let's see if Romney's platform will advocate cutting entitlements, as Ryan proposes, to rein in the overall budget. May not go over big in Hawaii though.
on August 10,2012 | 08:07PM
HazieMae wrote:
Thanks Mittens!! Four more years!!
on August 10,2012 | 08:16PM
MightyMakiki wrote:
If it can't be Newt for Prexy, I'll take Paul as Veep. "Get 'er done!"
on August 10,2012 | 08:44PM
copperwire9 wrote:
Oh yeah, that's just terrific. Marginally better than Herman Cain or Michelle Bachman, I suppose, but...
on August 10,2012 | 09:28PM
Hullstown wrote:
Come on Chang, *murders* rule! Manson, Ray Lewis, OJ, everyone loves a killer. I like your cracker reference, but Rubio is a bore. What, just to placate a bunch of welfare recipients? That doesn't make for good television. I suppose *if* Democrats have bought Romney off, they won't give a damn if he pays taxes on the spoils.
on August 10,2012 | 09:34PM
Hullstown wrote:
Come on Changalang, *murders* rule! Manson, Ray Lewis, OJ, everyone loves a killer. I like your cracker reference, but Rubio is a bore. What, just to placate a bunch of hispanic welfare recipients? He's not getting that vote anyway - and it doesn't make for good television. I suppose *if* Democrats have bought Romney off, they won't care if he pays taxes on the spoils.
on August 10,2012 | 09:36PM
Hullstown wrote:
Last thing I remember Joe Biden doing is telling some schlep in a wheelchair to stand up. Last thing I remember seeing Paul Ryan do is push someone in a wheelchair off a cliff -- one of those things actually happened (here's a hint, it wasn't Paul Ryan). Acting as if this election is Paul Ryan against President Obama is ambitious. No one voting for Obama did so because of the crusty old gaffe-machine on the ticket in 2008. So Democrat or Republican, liberal, conservative, pump your brakes. A VP isn't the beginning or end-all of a race.
on August 10,2012 | 10:06PM
primowarrior wrote:
In this case, Paul Ryan's budget, and Romney's endorsement of it, are the subject of a lot of concern and could well be a big factor in the outcome of this election.
on August 11,2012 | 12:24AM
Changalang wrote:
It is the 800 pound Gorilla counter-measure that Team Obama was waiting for. :)
on August 11,2012 | 04:22PM
IAmSane wrote:
Wow, looks like Romney just gave up on trying to become the next president. Maybe he can go get a job giving haircut to homosexuals instead. I heard SuperCuts is hiring.
on August 10,2012 | 11:06PM
Bean808 wrote:
I heard in might be interested in opening a Tax Service.
on August 30,2012 | 02:26PM
HD36 wrote:
None of these clowns can stop the break up of the petro-dollar trade via the status of the US dollar as the world's reserve currency. Russia and China and China and Japan have all agreed on bilateral trade agreements to trade in their own currency thus bypassing demand for the dollar. Meanwhile Saudi Arabia has to buy US treasury bonds with any surplus they get from selling oil as a quid pro quo for setting them up with the world's largest company, Saudi Aramco. While other countries spend upwards of 40% of their income on food, this arrangement has allowed our citizens to spend on average 13% of our income on food. Neither party will be able to stop what's coming--Economic Collapse
on August 11,2012 | 12:15AM
sukebesan wrote:
Yep and the start of the U.S. economic and financial collapse may occur by September 30, 2012 prior to general election day.
on August 11,2012 | 06:04AM
primowarrior wrote:
They'll be breaking out the champagne at Obama campaign headquarters. I was hoping it would be Sarah Palin or Donald Trump, but this is good enough.
on August 11,2012 | 12:18AM
group22 wrote:
ABO - Anybody But Obama....Obama is a farce and a liar. Where's the "hope" and "change"? Obama is a socialist who can only offer entitlements and dependency.
on August 11,2012 | 12:40AM
64hoo wrote:
also remember the democrats in washington are a cult and obama is a guru of that cult.
on August 11,2012 | 02:38AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
Mormonism is a cult, created in the east coast by a man who wanted his cake and to eat more of it too when he was caught committing adultery by his then wife. After numerous hallucinations and wives, he was killed for his beliefs in the Mormon War.
on August 11,2012 | 11:14AM
walaau808 wrote:
What religion isn't a cult?
on August 30,2012 | 10:56AM
Bean808 wrote:
Hey not so fast. What do you call GOP er's holding hands in a circle.......? Ans. A dope ring
on August 30,2012 | 02:28PM
IEBuzzin wrote:
Does the socialist stock market close at over 13,000, and what did Bush do to our economy?Here listen, Gong!
on August 11,2012 | 01:53PM
Anonymous wrote:
2016 Obama go see it. What a wake up call it is!!!
on August 31,2012 | 02:35AM
RetiredUSMC wrote:
Paul Ryan=Wackadoodle
on August 11,2012 | 01:50AM
bekwell wrote:
It's easy to tell which ones are the paid bloggers.
on August 11,2012 | 01:59AM
64hoo wrote:
here's a little history on mitt romney that every american should know no t.v. or most advertisements will show or write about lets see what he has done. he co-founded bain capital a private equity investment firm which is one of the largest firms in america, in 1994 he ran against kennedy for senater in massachusetts and lost. he was president and ceo of 2002 oylmpic winter games in 2002 he was elected governer of the state of mass. where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit. and did'nt take pay for four years as governer.(i wonder if our governer would take no pay for four years while running this state.) bain capital starting with one small office supply store in mass. turned it in to staples now over 2000 stores and employing 90,000 people bain capital also worked to perform same kinds of business miracles again and again with companys like dominos,sealy,brookstone weather channel,burger king,warnermusic group, dollorama,home depot supply and many others. he was also an unpaid president of the salt lake olmpic committe for three years he gave his fathers entire inheritence to charity nitt romney is one of the wealtiest self-made men in our country but has given back to its citizens in terms of money service.and than most men. and 2011 he gave over 4 million to charity almost 19% of his income he trustworthy he will show us income tax records so his background showsus that he could an excellent president of the united states. maybe if he won he would not take any pay as president of the united states. jusu a few facts about mitt romney you voters be the judge.
on August 11,2012 | 02:16AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
son of BOSS
on August 11,2012 | 11:15AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Well written, and completely true. The difference between the two men running for president is tremendous. Romney exemplifies leadership by example, while Obama would change a famous speech to "ask not what you can do for your country, but rather what your country can do for you".
on August 11,2012 | 12:34PM
kuewa wrote:
Romney is not exactly a self-made wealthy man; his father was not exactly poor and paid for Romney's education, as well as maneuvered him into his career at Bain Investment. As was recently revealed, Bain Capital, an off-shoot of Bain, was financed largely by central americans linked to drug cartels, and it prospered by closing down businesses and reaping profits (Staples was an exception that happened after Romney supposedly left Bain, but didn't really). When he was Gov of MA, he carried out the wishes of the Dem legislature, including the State healthcare mandate and infusion of Federal funds; during his governorship, MA had one of the worst job creation rates in the country. My guess is that he turned down the governorship pay to avoid having his income scrutinized; without that pay, he had no earned income, only tens of millions in capital gains, some of which was tax sheltered in overseas accounts.The success of the SLC Olympics was largely due to his successful lobbying for Federal funding, which recently gained attention since a Repub congressman apparently accepted an illegal gift (a replica torch) in return for his support. Now there are questions about whether he is refusing to reveal his previous tax returns because they might reveal non-payment of capital gains tax on overseas holdings. His charitable donations, while generous in dollar amount, is only a fraction of his actual capital gains income, and includes the requisite tithe and additional amounts to off-set his capital gains. So no, I don't find Mr. Romney's history to be so honorable.
on August 11,2012 | 01:42PM
Descartes22 wrote:
Romney continues the trend of the Republican standard bearer being a silver spooner. His father was the CEO of American Motors and ran for President in 1968, Bush the Elder's father was a Senator and of course Bush the Younger was a fortunate son. It is incredible that these guys can propose economic policies that favor individuals of their means and yet dupe the middle class white male into thinking they can relate.
on August 11,2012 | 01:56PM
Toneyuki wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Can you say democratic TALKING POINTS!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BTW where are Obama's college records?


on August 12,2012 | 04:00PM
Bean808 wrote:
According to what you have just said I guess we all can look forward to see him WALK across the Potomac.
on August 30,2012 | 02:32PM
Watergate_Mike wrote:
Gut Medicare? Repeal Obamacare? Slice & dice Social Security? Romney just lost a ton of senior citizens (who had been leaning his way) by choosing a Tea Party ideologue. And since early buzz had him choosing Rob Portman of Ohio--good-bye Ohio!! Congratulations to our second-term President, Hawai'i's own, Barack Obama.
on August 11,2012 | 03:15AM
group22 wrote:
Only the uninformed would believe your BS and only the uninformed would vote for Obama.
on August 11,2012 | 03:23AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
And for you and the GOP, GONG!
on August 11,2012 | 01:56PM
tiki886 wrote:
From a poster on National Review: "My first reaction to Ryan was that his medicine is too harsh for the typically-clueless undecided voter and that he is vulnerable to Obama's demagoguery; but then I thought, if not now, when?"

"Let's put Ryan's arguments up to the American people, and if they can't handle the truth then we're doomed anyway. Let's push all our chips into the center of the table and if we fail, we can go down knowing we presented our best alternative to the bleak future that awaits us otherwise. If we have to candy coat our message to win, the victory may not be worth having." - tfiks


on August 11,2012 | 03:39AM
Pacej001 wrote:
Profoundly accurate.
on August 11,2012 | 08:32AM
purigorota wrote:
Right on!!!
on August 11,2012 | 09:13AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
puni beyond compare.....
on August 11,2012 | 11:34AM
Changalang wrote:
Everybody's mind is already made up, and the media will paint Ryan into a brown shirt. LOL.
on August 11,2012 | 04:24PM
Toneyuki wrote:
At least you admit where the liberal media stand.

I thought they were supposed to tell us the truth. But it turns out that all they do is try and make people more liberal.


on August 12,2012 | 04:01PM
tiki886 wrote:
From a poster on National Review: "My first reaction to Ryan was that his medicine is too harsh for the typically-clueless undecided voter and that he is vulnerable to Obama's demagoguery; but then I thought, if not now, when?"

"Let's put Ryan's arguments up to the American people, and if they can't handle the truth then we're doomed anyway. Let's push all our chips into the center of the table and if we fail, we can go down knowing we presented our best alternative to the bleak future that awaits us otherwise. If we have to candy coat our message to win, the victory may not be worth having." - tfiks


on August 11,2012 | 03:43AM
GorillaSmith wrote:
Fantastic! Thank you, Mitt. The end of the Obamanation is now in sight.
on August 11,2012 | 07:26AM
NITRO08 wrote:
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on August 11,2012 | 08:00AM
Paulh808 wrote:
Look in mirror!
on August 11,2012 | 09:25AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
I'm sure Ryan see Palin when he does.
on August 11,2012 | 11:17AM
Anonymous wrote:
Takes one to know one. You might have a freebie handout degree but it doesn't hide your ignorance.
on August 31,2012 | 02:40AM
Bean808 wrote:
Dream on.......LOL
on August 30,2012 | 02:37PM
Descartes22 wrote:
It is astounding that the white middle class male voter (the only demographic in Romney's corner other than the crazed evangelicals) embraces economic policies championed by Ryan and Romney, which stick it to the middle class. I suppose the fact that Obama heavily carries the educated voter demographic speaks for itself.
on August 11,2012 | 07:39AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Define "stick it". Obama intends to slam the middle class with the largest tax increase in history. From the top down. Unless Romney is going to execute the middle class, then who's sticking who?
on August 11,2012 | 12:38PM
Descartes22 wrote:
A diet of Fox News can have you believing Obama was not born in Hawai`i. Objective and neutral analysis of the competing tax plans overwhelmingly show how (contrary to the administration's plan), the Romney tax policies disproportionately impact the middle class and aid the uber-wealthy types, like the candidate himself.
on August 11,2012 | 01:25PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Funny. I haven't seem those "objective and neutral analysis'" you're referring to. Please show us exactly where to find them.
on August 11,2012 | 02:41PM
Descartes22 wrote:
Since you ask....try the following respected non partisan entities: the Tax Policy Center, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), and Center for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB). I suspect, however, you prefer knowledge acquisition from Murdoch's experts.
on August 11,2012 | 05:18PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Did you actually read the reports from these agencies? Or simply the biased interpretations of them by the liberal media. They all clearly show Romney's reduced tax rates for everyone, not simply the wealthy. If you're not willing to accept the reality that curtailing government spending is vital to our survival, then you'll remain part of the problem rather than the solution.
on August 11,2012 | 05:57PM
Toneyuki wrote:
Please show us where on Fox news that they have ever said that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. You can't because it never happened. But just like most of the other Democratic talking point lies, you don't have to show any facts to back them up.
on August 12,2012 | 04:03PM
Bean808 wrote:
I guess you now understand the meaning of execute.
on August 30,2012 | 02:38PM
Changalang wrote:
It's like Melba Toast squared pandering to the extinct majority demographic of yesteryear. Snooze-a-rama.
on August 11,2012 | 04:26PM
kainalu wrote:
A stark difference between the 2 tickets. Romney and Ryan both born into wealth - Romney's dad the former CEO of American Motors and ex-Gov of Mass, while Ryan's dad was an attorney, their extended family owning a earth-moving construction business that Ryan briefly served in marketing for. On the otherside, we know Barack's story - raised by a single-mother, otherwise his grandparents in an apartment building. While Joe Biden's dad was initially well-off, he lost out on a few business adventures that left the family destitute before Joe was born, his dad eventually ending up a cars salesman. Its that cut-n-dry to me - Romney and Ryan never experiencing life as poor or middle-classers, while Barack and Biden had to rise from the ashes.
on August 11,2012 | 08:26AM
Paulh808 wrote:
Yeah, our great leader say's we must hate the rich/successful and his sheeple are following his commands.
on August 11,2012 | 09:29AM
NITRO08 wrote:
You need to wake up.
on August 11,2012 | 10:03AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
no he didn't, no kulolo for you, only lolo.
on August 11,2012 | 01:21PM
Descartes22 wrote:
The President did not say this. If there are any "sheeple" they are those like you who feast on a diet of Fox News and would likely have been spellbound by Goebbels.
on August 11,2012 | 01:28PM
Toneyuki wrote:
Don't really care about where they came from, I care about what they have done and are doing. LOOK AT THEIR RECORDS.
on August 12,2012 | 04:06PM
Manoa2 wrote:
Love Ryan's roadmap for budget reform where he proposes a national sales tax of 4-5% imposed at every step of the production of goods and services-- check out on his roadmap for America website. Maybe he got the idea from Hawaii.
on August 11,2012 | 08:35AM
realist3463 wrote:
Why should Hawaii care? Hawaii would vote for the devil if he/she were a democrat.
on August 11,2012 | 08:45AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
that why they don't vote republican.....
on August 11,2012 | 11:20AM
Pacej001 wrote:
Romney has turned a national referendum into a great, one hundred million voter IQ test in which the following questions will be asked and answered: Can a democracy, in which a majority of citizens survive on government largess, survive the small minded greed of individuals dependent on the state? Will the politics of personal destruction triumph over reason and reality? Will individual freedom increasingly have a declining role in the calculus of citizenship? Will the static, socialist vision of a class-hardened society replace the unique American model of individual achievement, upward mobility, and excellence? On a less philosophical level, will the American voter choose a course toward guaranteed national insolvency and decline or will they take the best and only opportunity to renew the country?--------------------- If most of the comments above are any guide, I'm not optimistic.
on August 11,2012 | 08:47AM
Paulh808 wrote:
Keep educating Pace, some people may see the light. Great work as always.
on August 11,2012 | 09:36AM
group22 wrote:
Good post Pacej001. Most here have no clue what you're talking about. I too am not optimistic...Obama attracts the uninformed and clueless voter.
on August 11,2012 | 12:14PM
IEBuzzin wrote:
gong, smells like kukae coming from the right again.
on August 11,2012 | 01:15PM
Descartes22 wrote:
As I have stated, the Obama demographic includes more educated members of the electorate. Your comments illustrate this point. Sound bite platitudes and parroting Fox News and Rush demonstrate the sad simple-mindedness of the GOP. It is astounding how historically amnesiatic you are. It was a Democrat President who provided solvency following Bush the Elder. It was Bush the Younger who plunged the country into debt. Bush the Younger's policies gave us the 21st Century's Great Depression. The Romney-Ryan policies are essentially the same ones that facilitated the economic meltdown. Amazing that you locksteppers have no sense of historical perspective.
on August 11,2012 | 01:41PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Well written, mostly wrong. Clinton was hammered into good fiscal behavior by a Republican Congress. Same thing with the very successful welfare reform. Assigning all the blame for the financial melt down to Bush is ignorant, wrong. The blame rightfully spans multiple administrations, congress of both parties, and most definitely the Federal Reserve. Bush overspent, augmented by democrat congresses and yet you leave out the $5 trillion of utter waste under Obama with a democrat congress. Romney/Ryan's plan are essentially different in their focus on control of spending. The selective memory, selective knowledge, selective focus of progressives never ceases to amaze.
on August 11,2012 | 02:10PM
Descartes22 wrote:
Yes, you cannot affix sole blame to an individual, so do not do so with the current President. Do not forget that Bush had the Senate when he threw massive amount of money into two ill-advised wars. Bush the Elder at least realized you couldn't listen to Grover and achieve fiscal responsibility. As far as Clinton, the Republican Congress actually sought to do good for the country, unlike the sabotaging obstructionists in power now, Don't know where your $5 trillion in waste figure is derived. I would say the amnesia primarily afflicts the Murdoch and Rush acolytes.
on August 11,2012 | 05:30PM
Pacej001 wrote:
The current president did not create the financial crisis or the fiscal disaster we're going to see in the next decade. My problem with him is that his actions have made our current recession far worse than necessary and that he shows no sign of taking the necessary leadership role to head off our oncoming fiscal train wreck. Instead he's stepped on the accelerator. Afghanistan was ill advised? What, we should have turned the other cheek after 9/11? The sabotaging obstructionists have at least produced a budget resolution. I think you're ignoring the election of 2010. The house changed hands for a reason. Waste? Well, a trillion went down the drain with the failed stimulus. There were 9,000 /- earmarks in Pelosi's first appropriations bill. The green energy boondoggles seem endless. We're still #30-$40 billion in the hole on the GM debacle and it is just that. Discretionary spending up sharply. I'll concede that much of Obama's $5 trillion debt is recession induced, but the list of feckless, wasteful spending is long. Rush? Murdock? Why is it you guys can't think beyond racial or intellectual caricatures when it comes to conservatives.
on August 11,2012 | 05:56PM
Changalang wrote:
"The current president did not create the financial crisis or the fiscal disaster we're going to see in the next decade." ................................ Bush did. Bush lied, and prosperity died. Do you think America is going to believe in you guys again? If the trajectory holds, Obama may get both Houses back as well. ROFL.
on August 11,2012 | 06:37PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Chang: Bush did? That's it? There are volumes on info to the contrary.
on August 12,2012 | 10:03AM
Changalang wrote:
Turning up the volume doesn't make it any more real.
on August 12,2012 | 09:20PM
Bean808 wrote:
And Mitt will lead you to oblivion. Good luck.
on August 30,2012 | 02:41PM
Anonymous wrote:
And that is why Hawaii is consistently drowning in the left.
on August 31,2012 | 02:43AM
Changalang wrote:
" Romney has turned a national referendum into a great, one hundred million voter IQ test "..............................Look around you. Majority rules is what wins elections. ROFL. It doesn't matter how right your are, if you can't win an election. That really isn't genius math either. :D
on August 11,2012 | 04:28PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Well, you are right that the majority rules and I'm glad to give you a laugh, but your problem is that you just aren't looking far ahead enough. Right in the short term, maybe, dead wrong in the long. The math of our debt, deficits, entitlements, new entitlements is what it is. The progressive/liberal movement is headed for its natural and unavoidable conclusion, the part where the hungry jackals are just standing around looking at each other. I think it will happen sort of like the collapse of the Soviet Union. You're seeing it happen in California right now. Without conservatives, that's America's future. Let a thousand Detroits bloom, that's what Obama and his progressives have to offer. When all of this "progress" reaches critical mass it will be a sight to see. Now that will be real occasion for ROLFing.
on August 11,2012 | 05:18PM
Changalang wrote:
Keep your doom and gloom to your own Party. There will be plenty of Republicans to eat. Go to debtclock.org and see what George Bush's unfunded liability of drug coverage is doing to the debt. So, much for trying to buy the votes of seniors with kickbacks to the big corporate drug companies. You make the fatal era of assuming that just because you are fooled by the lies of the GOP being the fiscally prudent party; that everybody else drinks your Kool Aide. We>You; so take defeat like a man. Prescription Drug Liability is over 20 trillion and counting since 2006.
on August 11,2012 | 06:01PM
Anonymous wrote:
Now you're making me ROLF. You think a democrat version of the prescription drug entitlement would have been lest wasteful? Not likely. At least it's not costing orders of magnitude more than forecast like the progressive's favorite freebies, like Obamacare will. Medicare- several orders of magnitude more costly than expected. I don't think I'm being fooled. The GOP slipped off the wagon, but the 2010 election put them back on it. I guess your side is being more honest though, no budget in three years, no pretense about controlling deficits. And your side isn't lying about their plans to shore up SS, Medicaid, and Medicare-- because they don't have any plans to do so. This kool aid thing works two ways, I think. For you, you take a shot and you're suddenly able to ignore the CBO alternate scenario (most realistic), you know, the one where our economy basically ceases to function due to debt induced financial crises. Now, to be able to ignore/not prepare for/do nothing about a little economic hiccup like that takes one strong drink.
on August 11,2012 | 06:18PM
Changalang wrote:
Medicare Part D was another Bush WMD to the economy, along with the bankster blow up of 2008. Nobody is buying the austerity that Ryan is selling to atone for Republican sins. Romney and Bush have a lot in common; they both listen to Cheney too much. Rubio was Romney and your last chance to save America via your own delusional model. Obama promised fundamental change and he delivered. Now, you have to live with it. If you can't; move out, check yourself out, or welcome yourself to the watch list. :)
on August 11,2012 | 06:35PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Someone just got a little emotional. Why? Because the truth stings. The reality of fifth grade math stings. The illogic behind your own statements and Obama's "forward into the abyss" mentality stings. But what must sting most is that you progressive fellows have gone too far down the road with this dorm room Marxists to turn back. When the ship of state hits the rocks you are going to be listed on the manifest as Captain and we know what good captains do when the ship is sinking.
on August 12,2012 | 08:42AM
Changalang wrote:
Boo Hoo Hoo; apparently the truth only stings you. LOL.
on August 12,2012 | 09:19PM
Bothrops wrote:
Romney solidified the conservative vote with this choice, and he already has the millionaire vote. He has lost Ohio and Florida, women, African Americans, Hispanics, gays, ex Brits, unions, and most of the Middle Class. I guess he has always wanted to be the underdog, give his upbringing. Now he has the chance.
on August 11,2012 | 08:48AM
Paulh808 wrote:
Read Pacej001 above and educate yourself lemming.
on August 11,2012 | 09:34AM
Bothrops wrote:
Romney can't keep his feet out of his mouth, his dog in his car or provide his tax returns. The US economy is a tad more complex than you and your fellow travelers could possibly understand. Go back to your cavem, troll and leave the discussion to people in Hawaii.
on August 11,2012 | 11:46AM
hawaiikone wrote:
As was suggested, read Pace above and then offer a rebuttal.
on August 11,2012 | 12:48PM
Bothrops wrote:
Read what I wrote, which was on Romney's chance of being elected. Not on the consequences of his not being elected. Subtle, perhaps excessively so for some. Pacej001 is bloviating, rhetorical and just not very interesting. But let's do an honesty/intelligence test for you, Paul808, Pacej801 etc. On the top of page A11 of today's SA (Star Advertiser for non locals), do your think the author is serious or is engaging in reductio ad absurdum? I am personally hoping it is not the former, but perhaps you can reassure me that it is not simply poor writing. That is if you are actually from Hawaii and actually read the paper.
on August 11,2012 | 01:27PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Still waiting for a big idea to pop out of your vitriol. Ok, any idea. Don't think that's going to happen. And what exactly identifies you as a local? Could be writing from a basement in LA, given your tone. But you guys aren't really about ideas, so enough said. Let the long walk down into the sewer of progress ideology and dirty politics begin.
on August 11,2012 | 01:42PM
Bothrops wrote:
Local? I asked you about the print edition of the SA. You can't answer. You don't know. "Let the long walk down into the sewer of progress ideology and dirty politics begin." We are already there. If you knew any history, you might know that "dirty politics" began during the Presidency of John Adams (1797) and has waxed and waned since then. You are off by 215 years. And "the sewer of progress ideology"? Pure babbling. As for ideas, why waste them on you? I asked a second interesting question, and you couldn't answer. Ironically my stance was quite conservative and the question is a serious one. But you just want to rant. Try being constructive. You aren't in the Beltway anymore.
on August 11,2012 | 03:32PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Gun control. Happy? I've lived here 20 years, never within the beltway. I regret every dollar I spend on this ridiculous paper. Golly gum drops, do you think that only liberal nutcases read history. John Adams was a Federalists with a personality disorder. I missed your second interesting question entirely. What ideas have you wasted? I haven't seen one. I am trying to be constructive. I'll simple down my original post for you: This election is about the fundamental values and foundation of our country. One side represents the course that made us great. The other represents the dissolution of all the founding fathers hoped we'd become. One side represents fiscal sanity. The other, fiscal delusion. Do I need to spell it out for you? Just say the word.
on August 11,2012 | 05:33PM
Bothrops wrote:
Let me explain it one more time. You may be absolutely right about what will happen to this country, but the Republican ticket is probably unelectable as you have someone who can't shoot straight and another person who appeals to the "far" right. To win an election, you have to win the middle. Obama is there now. Obama was never about hope and whatever, he is a politician, good at getting elected. Romney isn't. At this point, looking at polls, all Obama has to do is FL amongst the undecided states and he has the 270 electoral votes. The election is not a 100 million person intelligence test. It is about the candidates making their best case (or nowadays sliming each other) and us buying what they are selling. And no the correct answer is not "gun control" but about what constitutes a dangerous idea and whether we should restrict the rights of those who hold them: those "who talk about tyranny, hypocrisy or a "sick society" and who quote Thomas Jefferson. Not from within the Beltway? Not into operations research or C-130s? My computer must be slipping. My apologies.
on August 11,2012 | 08:00PM
Pacej001 wrote:
An acquaintance or proficient Googler. If the former, let me know and I'll fine tune the insults. If the latter, google harder. Never lived within the Beltway.
on August 12,2012 | 10:09AM
IEBuzzin wrote:
Here's how people in Hawaii would read you, eat kukae and make lolo....
on August 11,2012 | 01:59PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Couldn't have put it better myself.
on August 11,2012 | 02:46PM
suckseed wrote:
Great choice. He will appeal to the conservative base.
on August 11,2012 | 09:25AM
justin_thyme wrote:
So, Mitt Romney has selected Paul Ryan as his running mate. If you believe that billionaires deserve even more tax breaks, that all abortions and even some forms of birth control should be criminalized, that Medicare should be gutted, and that too many students are able to afford college, then congratulations: the Romney-Ryan ticket is perfect for you. But if you believe otherwise, BEWARE!. Mitt Romney has caved to the extreme right of his party, choosing a Tea Party darling who is eager to push corporate America's agenda at all costs. Even Newt Gingrich called Paul Ryan's plan to end Medicare as we know it "right-wing social engineering." Make no mistake: Romney-Ryan is the Koch brothers' dream ticket. Fox News is rejoicing. NPR, PBS, the National Endowment for the Arts, and early childhood education programs around the country are in desperate peril. There are only 87 days left before Americans go to the polls to make a critical decision about the direction our country will take into the future. This is the most important presidential election in decades; it will affect our nation for generations. Now more than ever, complacency and electoral apathy are our worst enemies. Regardless of our disappointments over President Obama's performance thus far, turning the reins of presidential power over to Romney and Ryan and their big-money masters would be a disaster of monumental proportions. Please, stand by our president and help to re-elected him in November! It's the single most important decision facing our country.
on August 11,2012 | 09:58AM
mitt_grund wrote:
This probably means that Romney has bought Paul Ryan's budget package. Paul Ryan's budget supposedly impacts future Medicare recipients. Reducing or pushing off Medicare to a voucher system benefitting the private sector will reduce Federal costs in this area of the budget. By doing so, Romney-Ryan will be able to ramp up the war effort in Afghanistan, as both of them have taken a position that we must stay in Afghanistan. By doing so, they will create their own job employment initiative by providing thousands of jobs in the military and military-industrial sector, not to mention their dependents. Puts a higher value to the military-industrial complex and the youth of this nation as opposed to the reitred and uselsss. Don't know if the Romney-Ryan budget would affect curent Medicare and Social Security recipients. I guess we will find out when the Republicans sweep both houses and the presidency in November. They should also then pass a national law for euthanasia of the elderly, the physically impaired, and welfare recipients at that time. That will then leave the uebermensch, Nietsche's "superman".race in charge. Rubio, in that light, was unacceptable and a no-go. Then with the war re-upped in Afghanistan, and a war begun in Iran, we can then go after the true enemy, China. We can reduce our debt by ridding the world of 1.3 billion "enemies of the U.S." as Romney-Ryan depict the world situation. RR - isn't that also the symbol for Rolls Royce?
on August 11,2012 | 10:17AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Cute, but just a couple of questions. Since obamacare already provides for eliminating the elderly, both by confiscating the bulk of their assets through the 30% capitol gains levy, as well as simply denying them any costly medical intervention, aren't you a little too late? And then there's that Afgan thing. Since Obama has pledged never ending billions as well as military "support" though 2024, how is that in essence any different from taking those same billions and spending them here? At least our money is going back into our own hands rather than to the Taliban. Just wondering. After all, your depiction of a potential "RR" scenario seems to have already been accomplished by our current "leader", except for the concept of sending welfare recipients to death camps. He needs them to assure his re election.
on August 11,2012 | 01:07PM
hawaiikone wrote:
See how crazy it all sounds when we polarize our attitudes? Not how we're gonna get out of this mess.
on August 11,2012 | 01:10PM
Bothrops wrote:
I think that's the first sane thing posted here today. Thank you.
on August 11,2012 | 06:23PM
blackmurano wrote:
Bishop Jackson ask all Christians to leave the Democratic party! Bishop E.W. Jackson is making a war cry: “Let God’s people go!” Jackson, a Marine Corps veteran, graduate of Harvard Law School and adjunct professor of law, is echoing the words of Moses in a campaign to persuade Christians of all races that the time has come for a wholesale exodus of Christians from the Democrat Party. The former candidate for U.S. Senate in Virginia points to what he calls the Democrat party's “cult-like devotion” to abortion; the rejection of the traditional biblical model of family; the hostility hurled at those who express a Christian viewpoint such as Chick-fil-A president and Chief Operating Officer Dan Cathy; the actions of organizations such as the ACLU and the Foundation For Freedom From Religion in suing cities and towns for displaying crosses at memorials or mentioning the name Jesus in prayer at official events. Beyond all of this, Jackson says, Democrat operatives are also attacking Gabrielle Douglas, the 16-year old black American who won the 2012 gold medal in gymnastics. “The accomplished young lady had the nerve to give glory to God for her win,” Jackson says. “This apparently offended liberals.” Case in point: Mary Elizabeth Williams, journalist for the progressive online magazine Salon.com, wrote, “I've often wondered what it is about Christians like Douglas that unnerves me so ... Douglas and her ilk seem to espouse a faith based on what is commonly referred to as 'The God of Parking Spaces.'” Jackson, founder and president of STAND (Staying True to America's National Destiny), responds: “Progressives are indeed 'unnerved' by devout Christians. That's why they resort to ridicule, even of a 16-year-old Olympic medal winner. Williams says we worship 'The God of Parking Spaces,' but I would prefer Gabby's God of grace and kindness to the leftist's god of ridicule and persecution. “Our Heavenly Father loves us and helps those who are humble enough to ask Him.” Later this month when Democrats make same-sex marriage part of their official Party Platform, the former practicing attorney says they will be spitting in the face of every Bible-believing Christian in America: “They will be saying, 'We don't care what you think, what you believe, or what the Bible or the God of the Bible says. We know better than God.'” Jackson's message to Christians is, “The Democrat Party has turned its back on Christians. It is time to turn our backs on the Democrat Party.”
on August 11,2012 | 01:06PM
IEBuzzin wrote:
wow, that's a whole lotta waha.....so puni like the GOP.
on August 11,2012 | 01:18PM
Descartes22 wrote:
Bishop Jackson, and his followers, would fit right in with the nutcase reactionaries of the Republican Party.
on August 11,2012 | 01:49PM
IAmSane wrote:
LOL you mental or what?
on August 11,2012 | 04:10PM
Changalang wrote:
You can't let people go who have no desire to go elsewhere. ROFL.
on August 11,2012 | 04:30PM
Bean808 wrote:
Jackson needs to go to rehab and fix the problem. He is a very sick man. We all need to say one for him.
on August 30,2012 | 02:49PM
kuewa wrote:
It will be interesting to see what happens next with the Romney tax return issue.... if Ryan releases only 1 or 2 years (like Romney), or if he releases more years than Romney. Either way, Romney's dilemma will be worse than it is now. LOL.
on August 11,2012 | 01:28PM
Changalang wrote:
They get the 1 percenter vote, only. It is amateur hour at GOP HQ.
on August 11,2012 | 04:31PM
group22 wrote:
The only amateur is Obama...
on August 11,2012 | 06:07PM
Changalang wrote:
So, the GOP is getting there A55 handed to them by an amateur? I guess everything is relative.
on August 11,2012 | 06:28PM
Pacej001 wrote:
The race is a toss up. More so even since your last Obama landslide prediction. What we have here is a massive amount of Romney money about to be unleashed on a shrinking campaign/candidate. Momentum and money are on the Rs side.
on August 30,2012 | 03:29PM
primowarrior wrote:
Paul Ryan will charm many voters out there with his smooth talk and charisma. The Obama campaign needs to get the message out that this guy is really a wolf in sheep's clothing who will gut the poor, middle class, and seniors for the sake of his wealthy supporters.
on August 11,2012 | 03:27PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Obama and the democrats haven't even passed a national budget in three years. His latest attempt would have allowed the national debt to increase by $11trillion in the next ten years. No plan to prevent Medicare insolvency. No plan for Social Security in the red. Nothing. Zip. Nada. That's the sum total of Obama's next four years. At least Ryan and the Republicans came up with a plan to forestall what he calls the "most predictable financial crisis in our lifetimes". From Obama? Crickets.
on August 30,2012 | 03:33PM
JumpyGathers wrote:
At least we know something about Ryan and Romney. We still don't know much about Obama, as his past has been sealed. No member of his Columbia class of 83 even remembers him. The libs laugh about " Birthers" but when it's discovered that Obama's own Literary agent listed his place of birth as Kenya, in their author biography pamphlet FOR SEVEN YEARS, these same libs expect us all to believe that this was just a mistake. Here it is folks. If your such a F'n loser that you want government to take care of you, off the backs of people that actually work for a living, then vote for Obama again, but be sure to explain to your kids and grandkids why they will take home so little pay in order to pay off Obama's socialist Nanny State massive debts.
on August 11,2012 | 06:12PM
Changalang wrote:
True patriotism should not be based on convenience of office holders. Save your wealth, go offshore, and opt out of America.
on August 11,2012 | 06:27PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Your point here?
on August 30,2012 | 03:33PM
justin_thyme wrote:
Please, Jumpy, start taking your psychiatric medications again! You're clearly delusional and paranoid.
on August 12,2012 | 10:02AM
boshio wrote:
Hi Jumpy, don't hate yourself so much. Have a nice day.
on August 30,2012 | 01:47PM
Bean808 wrote:
Some of the medical reforms might help you.
on August 30,2012 | 02:52PM
dlum003 wrote:
These two white as snow idiots would cause the next civil war in America. They're all about elitism, separatism, and exclusion. They're so out of touch with everyday people and moral and ethical decency. You NRA knuckleheads had better hope your bunkers and assault weapons work.
on August 12,2012 | 08:14AM
Pacej001 wrote:
Seems like someone said we were supposed to judge men by the "content of their character, not the color of their skin". Can't remember who said that, someone important, I think. Sounds good, though, right? Right? And another thing, I thought this election thing was about avoiding the civil war thing. In that regard the thing, I've read, that can bring societies to actual civil war is severe economic/fiscal disruption. If you think about it, the side that is heading us toward those two things may be the one driving us toward non-electoral violence is the one not willing to deal with our catastrophic debt/deficits. I'm sorry to report to you, not having an assault weapon or a bunker, either, that it's team Obama and the democrats who are doing that. The republicans offer to control spending. The democrats? Well, nothing. Crickets. Sound of silence. No national budget in over three years, no plan to deal with entitlements which are going insolvent, no plan to cut spending. All they have is a big bucket of mud and a token tax on the wealthier citizens aimed at placating those who fall for the class warfare thing, but not at doing anything meaningful about our debt. So, to sum up, the likelihood of civil conflict is being upped by those who would head us into some form of severe fiscal collapse and it isn't the snow white idiots who are doing it.
on August 12,2012 | 11:34AM
Toneyuki wrote:
Little late SA! Why on earth did it take over 24 hours to post this? It's not breaking news, but what do you expect from them.
on August 12,2012 | 03:43PM
Pacej001 wrote:
They posted it yesterday then took it off for a while, I suspect due to local election coverage. Now it's back. What do you think of the Ryan selection? Desperation move? Game changer? Long shot? Expected?
on August 12,2012 | 05:35PM
Toneyuki wrote:
I love it! I think it's a great pick. This election is about Big government. and getting the federal government to slow down it's growth.
on August 12,2012 | 09:48PM
NITRO08 wrote:
NO IT'S ABOUT THE RICH GETTING AWAY FROM PAYING TAXES. MITT PAID ALLOT LESS PERCENTAGE THAN I PAID THE LAST TWO YEARS! BIG CORPORATION MAKING MORE MONEY AND NOT CARING ABOUT AMERICA! IT'S ABOUT MAKING THE RICH RICHER OPEN YOUR EYES!
on August 30,2012 | 07:48AM
mokebla wrote:
When one points a finger at another, there's three pointing back. The luau is over, no more pork. Can you all say aloha with me, :-O!
on August 30,2012 | 04:54AM
NITRO08 wrote:
THE REPUBS TOOK THE PORK AND RAN RYAN DID!
on August 30,2012 | 07:48AM
loquaciousone wrote:
I'm not too enamored with Barry and Micheles's push to shove socialism down our throat but the Republican ticket scares me even more. If Mitt and Paul (sounds like a comedy team) get elected they plan to disenfranchise the middle class to irrelevancy. The gap between the haves and haves not will become even greater.
on August 30,2012 | 07:13AM
Pacej001 wrote:
What exactly do you see Obama doing to decrease the gap between the "haves and have nots"? Can't see how the slowest economic recovery on record and continuing the policies that created it is going to help the have nots. Tell me. What to you expect Obama to do during his second term? The only thing that's certain is a tax increase that won't even scratch the paint on our national debt.
on August 30,2012 | 06:11PM
KekoaBradshaw wrote:
So Willard (a.k.a. Mitt) is going to talk about his Mormon faith. Does that mean he going to give us a glimpse of the special underwear all Mormon men who are part of the "priesthood" must wear? After that, he can show us the secret Mormon handshakes.
on August 30,2012 | 10:24AM
Descartes22 wrote:
Mitt's rational and reasonable father is turning over in his bed on the planet he runs because of Mitt's antics and lies.
on August 30,2012 | 10:46AM
walaau808 wrote:
You are so narrow minded...why does any of that matter? You obviously know something or else it wouldn't be considered a "secret". Get a life!
on August 30,2012 | 11:02AM
GorillaSmith wrote:
It's great to see such a museum quality specimen of liberal bigotry. I look forward to seeing your views on Jews, Christians, etc...
on August 30,2012 | 03:35PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Love it, museum quality specimen, and it's true. I doubt any of these guys have ever actually known any mormons. I have and they've been great people, moral, hardworking, decent (Except for Harry Reid. Every class has to have an outlier).
on August 30,2012 | 06:06PM
boshio wrote:
Romney really needs coaching on how to lie with a straight face by tonight, or, its lights out.
on August 30,2012 | 01:45PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Maybe he should get a hold of obama, the best liar around.
on August 30,2012 | 04:00PM
AhiPoke wrote:
As the RNC goes on I flip channels between MSNBC and FOX to monitor coverage. It's so interesting how differently they review and interpret the same speeches. As an independent I see bias on both sides but the venom of the MSNBC reviews are off the charts. Very honestly, IMO, they should be ashamed to call themselves journalists. Now I'll await the coverage of the DNC which I assume will be equally biased. I'm especially interested to see if FOX commentators are as mean spirited as those at MSNBC.
on August 30,2012 | 02:05PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Pretty sad, isn't it. This is where most of the media is. Some outlets are more subtle about it, but they're all the same-- partisan, biased, determined to shape our thinking to theirs. Disgraceful. There is no such thing as journalism in the US.
on August 30,2012 | 06:03PM
Wazdat wrote:
its because we have 24 hour news so they just have talking heads. How SAD
on August 30,2012 | 07:26PM
Valleyisle57 wrote:
I couldnt agree with you more NittWit, umm i mean Mitt; "Its Time to Leave Dissapointments Behind", so get on the bus and leave town since your the biggest of those dissapointments!!!!!!
on August 30,2012 | 02:12PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Another classy comment, adding so much to the discussion.
on August 30,2012 | 04:02PM
poidragon wrote:
Tell me why, I should vote for a man like you, Mitt? You worked for a company that took away American jobs, you flip flop on health care reform and promote an agenda that works against America's middle class! You represent East Coast politics that only benefits the wealthy in our country, so tell me in plain words, why should I vote for you?
on August 30,2012 | 02:26PM
Fred01 wrote:
Maybe because he's not Obama?
on August 30,2012 | 03:43PM
hawaiikone wrote:
best reason there is,,,
on August 30,2012 | 04:02PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Here's a question for you: " Without a change in leadership, why would the next four years be any different from the last four years?" (Ryan's acceptance speech). What, specifically, has Obama proposed to do differently/better/more effectively. I can't think of anything. If he's just planning to trash Romney/Ryan to win reelection, then repeat the last four years, we are in big trouble because the last four don't look pretty: no national budget in three years, job killing decisions in the energy sector, vilification of the very people we need to expand businesses, adding the Obamacare entitlement (cost truly unknown) without an effort to fix the other entitlements that are going broke, Medicare and Social Security. You're worried about Romney's plan? Obama has no plan. That's better?
on August 30,2012 | 06:32PM
Kuniarr wrote:
I am puzzled. This news item is marked: POSTED: 01:19 p.m. HST, Aug 30, 2012 LAST UPDATED: 01:23 p.m. HST, Aug 30, 2012 yet there are comments dated as early as August 10, 2012.
on August 30,2012 | 03:08PM
Pacej001 wrote:
The SA webmaster says that it isn't a new story, but a continuation of the one announcing Ryan's selection, so the comment string continues as is. Intentional or not, they've just limited our ability to discuss Romney's nomination. Par for the course.
on August 30,2012 | 05:59PM
WesleySMori wrote:
"INDEED"!! WHAT'S UP "S.A."???????
on August 30,2012 | 06:36PM
GorillaSmith wrote:
The libs are getting more apoplectic and less coherent by the day. They correctly sense that the Obamanation experiment's days are numbered. Here's hoping our battered economy can last until January 20th!
on August 30,2012 | 03:30PM
kainalu wrote:
Sam Walton creates 10s of thousands of jobs. He could have afforded to buy Lanai if he wanted to. Those 10s of thousands of workers he has don't qualify for a mortgage.
on August 30,2012 | 06:19PM
Pacej001 wrote:
And your point would be? Is it that an entry level retail employee should be paid $100K/year. You folks just don't get it. We're in a competitive world. Unskilled labor, like a Walmart greeter, has to be a start point or a way station towards better, higher skilled, higher paid jobs. These are the facts of life that liberals don't get. No high school education, no technical skills (both of these are choices for all but a very, very few) = very little future. Nothing Obama might do in a second term is going to change that.
on August 30,2012 | 06:26PM
kainalu wrote:
Creating "jobs" at walmart and macdonalds does nothing but keep thos "workers" oppressed - that's the point.
on August 30,2012 | 07:31PM
Anonymous wrote:
Then Walmart should export the jobs to China and you can pay 10 times more for your twinkies.

The only oppression is being perpetrated by Democrats who keep the "slaves" on the plantation by making people dependent on government handouts!


on August 30,2012 | 09:28PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Jeezo beezo, how is it oppression when a person voluntarily takes a job at Walmart? In a robust economy, people with skills get ahead. Look at the different unemployment percentages for high school and college graduates. More skill/knowledge, more prosperity. Dusting door knobs at Walmart is a choice, not oppression.
on August 31,2012 | 06:37PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
I watched the convention and thought both Romney and Ryan were sincere and basically good family men. You could see the affection within their families and the emotional connections. Thing is, I see the same thing in Obama - seems a basically decent guy with a nice family. Biden's strange but probably a good man too if he shuts up.

To me the real issue, the bottom line, gutsball issue - who has a better chance of bringing us together as Americans again? Just read this thread and the jargon, pat phrases, accusations and vitriol and hate are just spewing over on either side. We as a country are doomed with that kind of me against you attitudes.

To bring us together we need a big dream, a national vision that we can all get behind as a goal for our nation. Something really worthwhile, measurable and good. I hope one of these guys will at some point come to realize we need the big vision now more than ever. So far, neither has done that.


on August 30,2012 | 07:00PM
PMA wrote:
Too much truth for SA. EH?
on August 30,2012 | 07:52PM
PMA wrote:
Well then, here's what your golden boy has to withy rest credit...with the actual sources... • The share of Americans who've been out of work a long time — now at 42% of the unemployed — is the highest since the Great Depression (source: Labor Department). • The proportion of the civilian working-age population actually working, at 58%, is the smallest since the Carter era (Labor Department). • Growth in nonfarm payroll jobs since the recovery began in June 2009 is the slowest of any comparable recovery since World War II (Hoover Institution). • The rate of new business startups — the engine of job growth — has plunged to an all-time low of 7.87% of all businesses (Census Bureau). • 3 in 10 young adults can't find jobs and live with their parents, highest since the 1950s (Pew Research). • 54% of bachelor's degree-holders under the age of 25 are jobless or underemployed, the highest share in decades (Northeastern University). • Black teen unemployment, now at 37%, is near Depression-era highs (Labor Department). • Almost 1 in 6 Americans are now poor — the highest ratio in 30 years — and the total number of poor, at 49.1 million, is the largest on record (Census). • The share of Hispanics in poverty has topped that of blacks for the first time, 28.2% to 25.4% (Census). • The number of Americans on food stamps — 45 million recipients, or 1 in 7 residents — also is the highest on record (Congressional Budget Office). • Total government dependency — defined as the share of Americans receiving one or more federal benefit payments — is now at 47%, highest ever (Hoover). • The share of Americans paying no income tax, at 49.5%, is the highest ever (Heritage Foundation, IRS). • The national homeownership rate, now at 65.4%, is the lowest in 15 years (Census). • The 30-point gap between black and white Americans who own their own homes is the widest in two decades and one of the widest on record (Census). • Federal spending, now at 23.4% of GDP, is the highest since WWII (CBO). • Excluding defense and interest payments, spending is the highest in American history, at 17.6% of the economy (First Trust Economics). • The federal debt, at 69% of GDP, is the highest since just after WWII (CBO). • The U.S. budget deficit, now at 9.5% of the economy, is the highest since WWII (CBO). • U.S. Treasury debt has been downgraded for the first time in history, meaning the U.S. government no longer ranks among risk-free borrowers (S&P).
on August 30,2012 | 07:53PM
tinapa wrote:
Overall, the Mitt Romneys spech was a good one. However his speech was more directed to his political base instead of to the persuadable independent voters. He did not package his message in an unequivocal and cut and dry terms so that this demographic group would be able to discern it enabling them to make an informed decision as to which governing philosophy reflects their political and ideological views. He touched many interesting issues but kept them hanging in the air and that is not going to capture independent voters.
on August 30,2012 | 07:59PM
Hullstown wrote:
Really? I guess for "cut and dry" terms you'll be looking "forward" to next week where the DNC will feature a constant flow of speakers accusing Republicans of racism, a "war on women" and more of the same nonsense liberals have been pushing for at least 30 years. The distinction between Mitt Romney and President Obama couldn't be more clear. If "independents" can't discern the distinction, they might want to invest in some convictions or principles.
on August 30,2012 | 09:26PM
Venus1 wrote:
The jobs will be for China!!!!
on August 30,2012 | 08:04PM
Anonymous wrote:
Well Obama is a fellow commie<.a> like the Chinese. He needs to keep fellow comrades employed.
on August 30,2012 | 09:30PM
rayhawaii wrote:
Promises promises always promises to get the votes. Then uses an excuse after he becomes president for not keeping his promises. No matter who becomes president someone is always going to complain about him or her. Just vote for Obama. You will never find a perfect president but he has 4 years of experience.
on August 30,2012 | 08:21PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Experience at what? Talking? That's all he's done.
on August 30,2012 | 08:48PM
Anonymous wrote:
While Obama was in commie college smokin dope and snortin coke, Romney was already creating jobs for Americans!
on August 30,2012 | 09:18PM
Hullstown wrote:
4 years of experience doing what? I hope president Obama has demanded the majority of the DNC next week is dedicated to his wildly successful handling of the U.S. economy. Unfortunately, the DNC will be dedicated to falsehoods - the "experience" Obama has is not the experience the United States needs.
on August 30,2012 | 09:32PM
niimi wrote:
Obama promised to cut the deficit in half. Instead he divided my 0.5, effectively quadrupling the debt racked up by W. Think about it. Bush over spent by $2.4 Trillion in 8 years. Obama spent double that in just four years. Hence a quadrupling.
on August 30,2012 | 09:18PM
gomesa wrote:
I believe I missed something while traveling in Europe. I heard Romney will create 12m jobs. Did he say how?, Did he mention how he will fix the Immigration problem? Did he mentione how he will fix the Health problem in Amercia? Did he address how he will revamp the Tax Code? Most politicians are magicians. They know how to trick people for a vote. Loser.
on August 30,2012 | 09:28PM
HD36 wrote:
Sounds like he plans to take us to war against Iran and eventually China. The economy will be so bad, 12 million people will enlist in the military.
on August 30,2012 | 10:16PM
Nalukai wrote:
OBAMA is a total failure ! It is as simple as that !
on August 30,2012 | 10:35PM
false wrote:
how do you really feel
on August 30,2012 | 10:58PM
tiki886 wrote:
OK. He's a freakin COMMIE!
on August 31,2012 | 12:22AM
Venus1 wrote:
12 million jobs for China!!!
on August 31,2012 | 12:27AM
harryuhanejim wrote:
Mitt Romney cult exposed to be the Morman church... This is an intresting take on the Matter, from a cluster showing up i utah. Harry Uhane Jim Harry Uhane Jim A question from H.H. in Hawaii: "Will the native Hawaiians seeking to reestablish the sovereignty of the Hawaiian kingdom that was overthrown illegally, succeed?" This Awareness indicates that there is a good chance of this happening. This Awareness indicates that there are ten states in the continental U.S. that have declared sovereignty. There are likely to be quite a number of the states in the continental U.S. and by springtime it is expected to be close to 40 such states claiming sovereignty. Whether this occurs is not certain, but there is a movement occurring rapidly in this direction. It therefore is seen as a time when Hawaii could also make a move in that direction. Whether or not it will be the Hawaiian people or some other influences in government in Hawaii will depend on how quickly and how strongly the native Hawaiians move. This Awareness indicates that there has been some discussion among certain entities in Hawaii about seceding from the United States and becoming a sovereign state or nation due to health concerns, where certain forces in Hawaii want the freedom to be in charge of their own health matters without FDA infringement, or other government infringement in their lives. This may be influential or may lead to a joining of forces with those natives who seek the independent sovereignty of Hawaii so that they regain their total independence from the United States, or so that they declare themselves state sovereign in their own right, remaining part of the states without being aligned to the Federal government. This Awareness indicates that originally, the 48 states were independent states, but they individually grew to embrace or accept the domination and control of the District of Columbia as a Federal Government, where the states had originally had their own sovereignty and gave away their sovereignty when they accepted the District of Columbia as a Federal leadership over them. This is now apparently in a reverse mode where more and more states are separating from government controls and becoming independently sovereign. Of course, they lose Federal grants and Federal assistance, but they gain their own individual sovereignty. This Awareness indicates that this may have some bearing on the entity’s question.....,STOP... Breath. receive expansion of an IDEA...... and then ......Harry Uhane Jim We are so Grateful to the Romney Cult.. He and the Mormon Church are beginning to disassemble the Declaration of independence from the american community as a whole nation. This Health care Issue of Romney's gubernatorial design. is creating an unfixable contract forcing declarations of sovereign responsibility to not only hawaii, but many more States. a few seconds ago 5 hours agoHarry Uhane Jim update..... united nations have accepted this truth. decoration of independence is filed. your help as kaua, slave, negative polarity is immense.. thank you... by the way my family is Morman too.
on August 31,2012 | 08:34AM
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