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Lingle, wary of Obama, takes aim at Congress

The GOP candidate for Senate would likely alienate voters if she criticizes the isle-born president

By Derrick DePledge

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LAST UPDATED: 11:27 a.m. HST, Aug 15, 2012


Former Gov. Linda Lingle, who faces political risks in criticizing Hawaii-born President Barack Obama, has turned to a riper target in her Republican campaign for U.S. Senate: Congress.

Lingle has derisively labeled U.S. Rep. Mazie Hirono, her Demo­cratic opponent, as one of the "12 percenters," a reference to the national job approval rating for Congress in a July poll by CBS News and The . Gallup released a new survey on Tuesday that put the job approval rating for Congress at 10 percent, tying the record low Gallup found in February.

Railing against a dysfunctional Congress may help Lingle appeal to independents and to moderate Demo­crats, the groups she needs to draw away from Hirono in November. The strategy has far less risk in Hawaii than blaming the political gridlock in Washington on Obama, who had a 63 percent job approval rating in the islands during the first six months of the year, according to Gallup, higher than any other state and second only to the District of Columbia.

The downside is that while most voters are disappointed with Congress, they generally like their own representative. Hirono had a 59 percent favorability rating in the latest Hawaii Poll in July, while Lingle was at 49 percent. A potentially greater risk, however, is that Republicans have held the U.S. House for the past two years, and U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis. — former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's choice for vice president — has been the architect of the GOP budget.

"I think this is probably the most reasonable strategy to take, considering that Obama is going to carry this state by a hefty margin," said Todd Belt, an associate professor of political science at the University of Hawaii at Hilo. "So what she has to do is she has to convince Obama voters to vote for her."

Belt said the danger for Lingle is if voters see the Republicans in Congress as more responsible for the dysfunction. Hirono has said that a vote for Lingle is a vote for a Republican Senate that would combine with the majority in the House to roll back benefits for seniors, women and the poor and obstruct Obama if he is re-elected.

Lingle unveiled her "12 percenters" theme against Congress on Sunday and called for four reforms: require Congress to work five days a week, three weeks a month; withhold lawmaker pay if Congress fails to pass a federal budget; reduce the operating budget of Congress and the White House by 10 percent; and freeze lawmaker pay for three years.

Lingle has previously described national debates about the repeal of the federal health care reform law and a millionaire's tax as overly simplistic election-year gimmicks, but she defended her congressional reform proposals that, while having populist appeal, are relatively cosmetic from a budget perspective.

Lingle's vulnerability remains her links to national Republicans whose attacks on Obama and budget policies alienate many Demo­crats in Hawaii. Ryan's selection as the GOP's vice presidential candidate puts his proposals to change Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid into the national debate.

Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee, has previously called for privatizing Social Security, but he left the option out of his most recent budget draft. His budget would eventually raise the eligibility age for Medicare and offer seniors a premium payment to buy private insurance as an option to the traditional government plan. He would cut expansion of federal Medicaid spending by repealing the new health care law and would transfer the program as block grants to states.

"I've never met Paul Ryan before, but I feel he deserves some credit for actually proposing a real budget. That's something the American people expect of their elected leaders," Lingle said. "And while I don't agree with the speed with which he wants to have reductions in spending in his budget, I think he deserves credit for actually proposing a real budget for the country."

Hirono has made protecting Social Security and Medicare a focus of her campaign. Lingle, who has said she is open to raising the retirement age for Social Security for younger workers and increasing premiums for higher-income seniors in Medicare, has also vowed to protect the entitlement programs.

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee on Tuesday used the 77th anniversary of Social Security to tie Lingle to Romney and Ryan.

"Whether it's essentially ending Medicare or sending our Social Security checks to Wall Street, Linda Lingle and her new running mates would help the wealthiest Americans get richer, while devastating Hawaii seniors and middle-class families," Matt Canter, a DSCC spokes­man, said in a statement.






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loquaciousone wrote:
Lingle's pledge to work across the aisle is just political shibai. If elected she'll just fall in line and clog up Congress with Tea Party mentality. SUPER FERRY DEBACLE - 1 BILLION DOLLARS IN AUCTION BOND - GONE!
on August 15,2012 | 02:44AM
OldDiver wrote:
Left Abercrombie with a $1.2 billion budget deficit.
on August 15,2012 | 06:19AM
OldDiver wrote:
Lingle wants to destroy Medicare as we know it. She agrees with Paul Ryan's plan to give seniors an $8,500 voucher to purchase a $20,000 health insurance plan with.
on August 15,2012 | 06:26AM
thos wrote:
What utter RUBBISH! It is the current occupant of the White House who plans to siphon three quarters of a TRILLION dollars from Medicare to pay for his widely despised health care "reform" which will take the decision making control out of the hands of patients and put it into the hands of cubicled government bureaucrats who are expert at reading volumes of regulations to determine who is and is not "worthy" of specific medical procedures. This is what is meant by the term DEATH PANEL. If Obama-Care is NOT repealed, you can kiss your tutu good bye as only the despised "wealthy" will be able to buy their own health care in private relations with doctors who refuse to take poor and middle class patients who were foolish enough to re-elect the current occupant of the White House. The Ryan plan restores decision control to the patient AND saves Medicare while reducing the enormous deficit caused the reckless, out of control spending championed by the current occupant and his apparatchiks in Congress.
on August 15,2012 | 07:04AM
Highinthesierras wrote:
True, but the pillar of her campaign should be Juan Williams's take on public education. Watch it at 9 Sunday night, or at least TIVO it. UNION will hate it, all the more reason to watch it and become more informed - I know, not the Hawaiian way.
on August 15,2012 | 07:46AM
gtracer66 wrote:
Teacher unions are not a solution, they are (a large) part of the problem. I once attended a retirement dinner for a teacher. On hand were high ranking members of the teacher's union. In their speeches, not one word was mentioned about the students or how to improve educational performance. The only comments made were how to get more money from the state legislature to improve pay and benefits for the teachers. It just didn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling that they really cared much about the kids.
on August 31,2012 | 06:18AM
looking4u wrote:
If you vote for Lingle you just as well put a gun to your head.
on August 15,2012 | 10:29AM
lee1957 wrote:
And if you vote for Maize, you might as well pull the trigger.
on August 15,2012 | 11:48AM
hawaiikone wrote:
lol
on August 15,2012 | 08:03PM
boshio wrote:
funny.
on August 30,2012 | 07:24AM
gtracer66 wrote:
If you vote for Obama and are over 65, you wont have to put a gun to your head, the government will do it for you. When you get sick, don't look for Obama to help you get well. And under Ryan's plan, only those UNDER 55 will be affected by changes in Medicare. The Democrates are using scare tactics to stay in office since they can't run on their record. Ooops, what record? High unemployment: skyrocketing debt (5 Trillion in 4 years); harsh regulation of small business... that's some record.
on August 31,2012 | 06:23AM
OldDiver wrote:
thos... it is you who is talking rubbish. What Obama did was take the for-profit-insurance companies out of the Medicare equation. These companies were ripping off Medicare to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. Your rant is straight from Republican TV (Fox News).
on August 15,2012 | 12:12PM
postmanx wrote:
maybe so, but he sure left the huge for profit pharmacy industry well alone.
on August 15,2012 | 05:18PM
gtracer66 wrote:
There are lots of ways to cut the cost of healthcare. Obamacare is not one of them. Has anyone considered the administrative costs of health insurance? Every time someone moves to a different state, they have to apply for a new insurance policy. That has to cost the insurance company extra money in admin costs. Additionally, when changing, you often get bumped into a different plan that may or may not give you the same benefits. And why? because insurance companies can't offer coverage over state lines (or at least they don't). If Social Security can keep up with people moving around, why can't health insurance companies? Also, aren't Medicaid and Food Stamps Federally funded? Why can't that also be transferred from state? Move from one state to another and you have to reapply for everything. This has to cost extra money. And then there are the lapses of coverage while you wait to be approved in the new state. What happens while you wait? No coverage! NO there has to be a better way to administrate this stuff.
on August 31,2012 | 06:32AM
Classic_59Chevy wrote:
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on August 15,2012 | 03:29PM
gtracer66 wrote:
Or is he?
on August 31,2012 | 06:33AM
gtracer66 wrote:
I have to agree with thos. I recently got mail telling me that my coverage for routine office visits to my PCP will be limited to 2 per month. This is only the start of restrictions we can look forward to under Obamacare. We need to get him out of there and repeal Obamacare ASAP.
on August 31,2012 | 06:14AM
harryuhanejim wrote:
hay, This... kaua kaua kaua... what the truth.. what what what ... heath care plan comes from Romney..the church cult of Mommans........ Lingle could not pay the bills. she stole from the poor,and gave to the bush...... Hawaiians fighting for their land was met with here swift and complete military removal of hawaiians from their home...check Keahukaha. Panaewva. land evictions. Blood is on LINDA'S HANDS. Get the point thos your party is flat, and in hospice.. Even your mayoral Republican canditate Is calling her detrimental. to the state's health and welfare... what what what.... get the point the more you no shut up the more rocks fall on you. From the graves of Hawaiians... enough already spanking the victims...
on September 1,2012 | 01:20AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Making up stuff again, OD?
on August 15,2012 | 10:51AM
lee1957 wrote:
Medicare doesn't need help from Lingle. Given the status quo, it is set to implode all on its own.
on August 15,2012 | 11:48AM
gtracer66 wrote:
All the more reason to fix the problem now!
on August 31,2012 | 06:34AM
OldDiver wrote:
Lingle agrees with Paul Ryan that the $2.7 trillion Social Security trust fund should privatized and placed in the hands of the Wall Street Bankers. Instead of the current 1% current overhead Wall Street Bankers will charge a 15% overhead effectively looting the trust fund of hundreds of billions of dollars.
on August 15,2012 | 06:23AM
nalogirl wrote:
Spreading more lies OD, just like you do with therail.
on August 15,2012 | 09:15AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Again, making up stuff, OldDiver?
on August 15,2012 | 10:51AM
tiki886 wrote:
Don't know where he gets his numbers from. Thin air?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/ after you check out our National Debt Clock, check out our State debt clock

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-hawaii-debt-clock.html Thank you Hawaii Democrats.


on August 15,2012 | 11:02AM
keight wrote:
Okay ... and did you read this? http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/paul-ryan-dont-believe-hype
on August 15,2012 | 12:17PM
admiral wrote:
Actually, OldDiver is correct. But more to the point of the article, Lingle is running scared of criticizing Obama, and for good reason. However, she did just that--even echoing Tea Party-like paranoia--as she campaigned across the country with Palin in 2008. If Hirono's people have any smarts, which I think they do, they will plaster Lingle's 2008 anti-Obama slanders all over the state, reminding voters of who the real Linda Lingle is (a Sarah Palin mini-me) and the damage she will do if allowed into the US Senate.
on August 15,2012 | 01:43PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Too bad you're sucking up that MSNBC hogwash too
on August 15,2012 | 08:09PM
SteveToo wrote:
Ya don't have to slander Obama. Just tell the truth about his inability to do anything right other than getting elected.
on August 15,2012 | 09:34PM
gtracer66 wrote:
That's right.. now just have another glass of Koolaid.
on August 31,2012 | 06:36AM
postmanx wrote:
What social security trust fund?
on August 15,2012 | 05:18PM
Denominator wrote:
Obama has no idea what to do to help Medicare. He's done more to cripple it than anyone!
on August 16,2012 | 02:51PM
9ronboz wrote:
Goons on the docks destroyed the ferry
on August 15,2012 | 07:13AM
kapoleitalkstory wrote:
No Lingle's failure to as a Governor KILLED the Super Ferry - Had she not told her friends in the compnay that they did not need to do a EIS this would not be an issue right now. But she thought she was above the law and she found out that she was not. She lied during her Governor campaign and she is lying now!
on August 15,2012 | 08:30AM
Macadamiamac wrote:
Actually it was the Hawaii Supreme Court that killed the Super Ferry. Please don't be rewriting history.
on August 15,2012 | 09:22AM
OldDiver wrote:
All the Supreme Court did was uphold the law that Linda Lingle tried to go around.
on August 15,2012 | 12:13PM
hawaiikone wrote:
After she was advised by the democratic legal department that she could.
on August 15,2012 | 08:10PM
Denominator wrote:
It was the Democratic legislature that passed a law to save SF and the law was determined un Constitutional. Where's Lingle in that equation?
on August 16,2012 | 02:53PM
copperwire9 wrote:
Mac, Lingle tried to fast-track the Superferry by avoiding the EIS altogether; it's documented a thousand different places. When her whole sorry mess got to the Supreme Court, they then put the nail in its coffin. kapolei isn't re-writing history. . . .And Lingle's gambit is what messed the whole thing up. I'd have been a supporter of the SFerry if she hadn't tried to circumvent the very laws that we elected her to uphold.
on August 15,2012 | 03:05PM
Denominator wrote:
Are you forgetting the Maui judge that first ruled no EIS was required?
on August 16,2012 | 02:53PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Wrong. The thing that killed the Super Ferry was the law that the Democrat controlled legislature enacted authorizing the Super Ferry to operate Hawaiian waters which the Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional..
on August 15,2012 | 10:53AM
OldDiver wrote:
Under orders from Lingle.
on August 15,2012 | 12:14PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Making up stuff again, OD? When has a Democrat controlled legislature ever taken orders from a Republican governor?
on August 15,2012 | 01:29PM
Denominator wrote:
You really think Lingle ordered the legislature to pass laws and they responded? What do you drink?
on August 16,2012 | 02:54PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
The Legislature passed the law and Ms. Lingle SIGNED it. She could have vetoed it or let it become law without her signature, but she signed it. Context matters.
on August 15,2012 | 12:27PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Lingle had nothing to do with the contents of the law which was framed by the Democrat controlled legislature. Put the blame where it belongs - the Democrat controlled legislature who created it.
on August 15,2012 | 01:28PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Repeatedly ignoring the facts doesn't make them go away.
on August 15,2012 | 05:02PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Being in denial and trying to blame a bad law on the Executive branch or the Governor does not detract from the fact that Laws are the exclusive function and responsibility of the Legislative branch of the government - in this case the Democrat controlled legislature.
on August 15,2012 | 05:44PM
tiki886 wrote:
Thanks for reminding everyone who the true villains were.
on August 15,2012 | 08:33AM
aomohoa wrote:
Why can the military use the Super Ferry and that's OK for the environment? We need the super ferry back for the people.
on August 15,2012 | 10:47AM
tiki886 wrote:
Because the HSF was "non-union"?
on August 15,2012 | 11:57AM
tiki886 wrote:
The investors should have allowed themselves to be extorted for union pay and membership. That way Dan Inouye would have used his clout to crush the opposition against a union enterprise. You have to pay to play in Hawaii.
on August 15,2012 | 12:01PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Let us not get our bias against a Republican get in the way of the telling the truth. The $1.1 billion in auction-rate securities may have lost market value but the truth of the matter is that a settlement with Citigroup enables the State to get the full par value of the $1.1 billion in auction-rate securities. The last news about the settlement was that >>>> "Citigroup Inc. agreed to buy back $869 million of auction-rate securities it had sold to Hawaii and repay the state for losses on securities it had previously liquidated, Hawaii’s Attorney General Mark Bennett said. Hawaii has liquidated at par value $200 million of the securities, which are backed by pools of federally guaranteed student loans, since February 2008. Under the agreement with Citigroup, the state can obtain “interim liquidity” on as much as $150 million of the securities from July 2012 at market value. The bank will pay the difference between that market value and par in July 2015." The state loses nothing as long as the state waits until the securities mature and not sell it at market value.
on August 15,2012 | 10:48AM
OldDiver wrote:
The State loses eight years of interest on a billion dollars. Besides we are dealing with wall street. That means there is no guarantee we get anything back until we get it back.
on August 15,2012 | 12:16PM
postmanx wrote:
For the record the Super Ferry "Debacle" was across the aisle as in the Democrat controlled legislature in the State of Hawaii convened in a special session to create legislation to support it.
on August 15,2012 | 05:16PM
kailuabred wrote:
She'd have a better chance in a non-presidential election year. Obama is too popular here.
on August 15,2012 | 04:48AM
soundofreason wrote:
Says alot about "here". Hawaii being the THIRD most indebted stated. Again, says a lot.
on August 15,2012 | 07:07AM
loquaciousone wrote:
She doesn't exactly have a heavyweight for an opponent. Last time they met, guess who won?
on August 15,2012 | 07:13AM
uhsportsfan wrote:
Yes, but he shouldn't be. He went to Punahou, one of the best, if not the best, private school in Hawaii. How did he get to go there? Who paid his tuition? I sure wish my kids could have gone to Punahou. Guarantee you one thing, they wouldn't have gone there and smoked pakalolo like Obama did. Just because he was born and raised MOSTLY in Hawaii doesn't mean he's good for Hawaii.
on August 15,2012 | 07:37AM
Larry01 wrote:
So, folks who went to Punahou aren't good for Hawaii? Geez, dude. Sounds like you've got envy - don't let that make you bad mouth the people who were a little more fortunate. You're probably better off than many others - maintain that perspective rather than complain about sour grapes. BTW, when you say you wish your kids went to Punahou, does that mean you wish they grew up to be no good for Hawaii?
on August 15,2012 | 08:33AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Doesn't matter where he went. It's his philosophy that's destroying this country.
on August 15,2012 | 08:13PM
copperwire9 wrote:
He went on a scholarship, uh. And I'll guarantee you your kids smoke pakalolo. You just haven't caught 'em.
on August 15,2012 | 03:08PM
Highinthesierras wrote:
Reid only carries water for Barry, why else has he refused to allow the Senate to pass a budget during Barry's tenure? Answer, so no one can criticize Barry for cutting the cost of anything. So, criticism of the Senate is the same as criticizing Barry, with the same results - she loses. But, no matter, Barry will be forced to cut programs next time as there will be no money, there are not enough millionaires, that is anyone making more than $200k, or 250k for two, in Barryland.
on August 15,2012 | 05:07AM
aldfhalisdbflaksdbf wrote:
"Lingle's vulnerability remains her links to national Republicans"?! Hah. Her vulnerability is that Hawaii voters know her well from her 8 years as governor and don't like her.
on August 15,2012 | 05:22AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Two of MANY reasons...
on August 15,2012 | 07:55AM
tiki886 wrote:
These are the people who don't like Linda Lingle: Homosexuals, Atheists, Elitests, Baby killers, Tree huggers, Flag burners, Progressives, Socialists, Marxists, Communists, Commie Symps, Islamofacist sympathizers, Black panthers and a host of other social misfits looking for a handout from the American taxpayer.
on August 15,2012 | 10:40AM
Maui wrote:
Going off on another rant again.
on August 15,2012 | 11:11AM
Toneyuki wrote:
Are you saying those groups DO like Lingle? HAHAHAHA
on August 15,2012 | 06:39PM
tiki886 wrote:
Maui is saying he is one of the above! Ha, ha, ha....
on August 15,2012 | 07:34PM
KekoaBradshaw wrote:
Odff your meds again, tiki886?
on August 15,2012 | 11:14AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Articulate and incisive contribution to the discussion.
on August 15,2012 | 08:15PM
9ronboz wrote:
well said tiki886, don't forget the unions, illegals, non u.s. citizens
on August 15,2012 | 11:18AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Indeed Hawaiian voters know Lingle well for holding the line on taxes. What everyone needs to know is that it was under the Lingle administration that the Refundable Food/Excise Credit was enacted. The cruelty of the GET is that it discriminates against the low income group in taxing food and medicine needed by the low income group to survive.
on August 15,2012 | 11:03AM
engineersoldier wrote:
All politicians are disingenuous and partisan, but Linda Lingle is absolutely the phoniest, most disingenuous, most partisan, self-serving, and two-faced politician we have seen in Hawaii. Good-bye Lingle, pls go away.
on August 15,2012 | 05:45AM
chief wrote:
Amen to that, and don't ever forget her image of sneaking out the back door of her office because she refused to meet with her constituents!
on August 15,2012 | 07:07AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Wow. And since she's such a better choice that Mazie, what does that tell you....
on August 15,2012 | 08:17PM
9ronboz wrote:
and mazie?
on August 15,2012 | 11:19AM
PMiller4249 wrote:
Only in Hawaii! Democrat first and mediocrity before USA! Obama born here, big deal, is reason to support despite 4 yrs of eroded values, economy/jobs have not improved and actions slowly take our freedoms?
on August 15,2012 | 06:08AM
soundofreason wrote:
I'm just glad Hitler wasn't born here or we'd be having to answer for the locals supporting him as well.
on August 15,2012 | 07:09AM
NITRO08 wrote:
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on August 15,2012 | 07:56AM
9ronboz wrote:
good example of diminishing iq with liberals when they respond
on August 15,2012 | 11:21AM
Larry01 wrote:
Really, that's pretty bad taste.
on August 15,2012 | 08:34AM
tiki886 wrote:
You know that NAZI stands for National Socialism? Good pick.
on August 15,2012 | 08:38AM
Larry01 wrote:
No, you do not compare Obama to Hitler.
on August 15,2012 | 08:41AM
Toneyuki wrote:
Why not?
on August 15,2012 | 06:40PM
prest1948 wrote:
If Hitler was born here, there would not have been the chaos in Germany. If he had attempted to instill his principles here during that period, he would not have made history, he would have been history.
on August 15,2012 | 09:23AM
tiki886 wrote:
He would have been sponsored to go to Punahou, then Occidental, then Harvard...
on August 15,2012 | 10:11AM
cajaybird wrote:
No Kidding!!!! As I read today's posts, I just don't know where to begin.
on August 15,2012 | 04:47PM
NITRO08 wrote:
ANOTHER FOX NEWS WATCHER MISINFORMED!
on August 15,2012 | 07:55AM
PMA wrote:
I suppose you watch lying CNN? Go ahead, stay "low-informed". Listen to Chris Mathews and Joe Biden and hold their stupid statements as truth, all because you've chosen not to look at all sides.
on August 15,2012 | 09:24AM
Toneyuki wrote:
Yeah, I hate it when smart Fox news watchers get misinformed by watching MSNBC.
on August 15,2012 | 06:41PM
PMA wrote:
Huh?
on August 15,2012 | 09:05PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Or... the majority of people in Hawai`i actually agree with President Obama's positions and support his leadership.
on August 15,2012 | 07:56AM
PMiller4249 wrote:
Of course they agree, a Democratic state who cares less about the USA. Have noticed lately that Obama resorting to 2nd home behavior and frequently talks their street culture slang and inflection! A President with class--ha!
on August 15,2012 | 08:46AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Or.... the majority of the people in Hawaii vote for Obama because he has a "D" before his name or that he was born in Hawaii.
on August 15,2012 | 11:07AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Losers ALWAYS have excuses. The Republicans in this state have a lot of practice.
on August 15,2012 | 12:29PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Can't stand the truth, DowntownGreen? That you vote for a candidate because of a "D" in front of a candidate's name? That you vote for Obama because he was born in Hawaii?
on August 15,2012 | 01:17PM
Larry01 wrote:
The point is that DowntownGreen may vote for a candidate because he agrees with Democratic values, not just because of the D, but what the D stands for. Is that so difficult for you to understand?
on August 15,2012 | 03:58PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Neither of your assertions about me is true, but you are apparently not interested in the truth; only propogating Republican talking points. Your avoidance of what my statement was speaks volumes.
on August 15,2012 | 05:04PM
Kuniarr wrote:
That goes direct to the root of this premature bragging of yours.
on August 15,2012 | 05:26PM
Toneyuki wrote:
You do realize that a large amount of people here vote on the D or R. ?
on August 15,2012 | 06:43PM
9ronboz wrote:
majority of the people here have no clue what bo is all about
on August 15,2012 | 11:23AM
hawaiikone wrote:
A lot of voters all over this country are equally clueless.
on August 15,2012 | 08:21PM
busterb wrote:
That's funny cause Ryan is so proud to be a Wisconsinite... but of course that means squat... I wonder if Mitt is proud of Mexico?
on August 15,2012 | 09:29AM
Toneyuki wrote:
Why would he be proud of Mexico? Was he born there? Did he go to a private school there? Are you a Birther?
on August 15,2012 | 06:44PM
kainalu wrote:
The stated agenda of the Republicans is "to make President Obama fail by any means necessary" - quoting Senate minority-whip Mitch McConnell directly. Be damned running the business "of the people, by the people, and for the people". The Republican controlled house voted 34-times to repeal the Affordable Care Act, while never voting on the President's job bill. 34-0. Lingle is a Republican running for the Senate, so she needs to "take aim" at the mirror.
on August 15,2012 | 06:49AM
Toneyuki wrote:
LIAR

When quoting someone, try getting the actual quote.

“Well that is true, [making Obama a one-term President is] my single most important political goal along with every active Republican in the country. But that’s in 2012. Our biggest goal for this year is to get this country straightened out, and you can’t get this country straightened out if we don’t do something about spending, about deficit, about debt and get this economy moving again. So, our goal is to have a robust vibrant economy that will benefit all Americans, and that’s why I think this debate that we’re having right now is so important to our country’s future.” When you are polar opposite of of his ideology, then this makes complete sense. It's the same attitude that the Democrats had in 2003 about Bush.


on August 15,2012 | 06:50PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Accurate quoting is not a liberal strong point.
on August 15,2012 | 08:23PM
kainalu wrote:
The stated agenda of the Republicans is "to make President Obama fail by any means necessary" - quoting Senate minority-whip Mitch McConnell directly. Nevermind running the business "of the people, by the people, and for the people". The Republican controlled house voted 34-times to repeal the Affordable Care Act, while never voting on the President's job bill. 34-0. Lingle is a Republican running for the Senate, so she needs to "take aim" at the mirror.
on August 15,2012 | 06:49AM
tiki886 wrote:
Obama doesn't know how to create jobs.
on August 15,2012 | 09:07AM
PMA wrote:
He never did and never will. One needs to exhibit prior experience to get hired in the private sector, but not Sorobama.
on August 15,2012 | 09:27AM
tiki886 wrote:
When Obama was Choomin wit his gang in college smokin dope and snortin coke, Romney was already creating jobs for Americans.
on August 15,2012 | 11:15AM
Maui wrote:
So what kind of prior experience does Paul Ryan have? The government has been very good to him: Social Security, on the government payroll, government pension, government health insurance.
on August 15,2012 | 11:20AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
I wonder who foot the enormous medical bill when Ryans grampus and daddy got their heart attacks. I bet ya, it was Medicaid!
on August 15,2012 | 04:21PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Have you or you buddy maui even read what Ryan is proposing? Didn't think so. Simply listening to Bill Mayer is a poor way to educate yourself.
on August 15,2012 | 08:26PM
Kuniarr wrote:
What "job bill", kainalu?
on August 15,2012 | 11:10AM
Kuniarr wrote:
A stimulus bill is not a job bill. That bill was nothing more but a stimulus bill because it combines payroll tax cuts for workers and businesses with $175 billion in spending on roads, school repairs and other infrastructure, as well as unemployment assistance and help to local governments to avoid layoffs of teachers, firefighters and police.
on August 15,2012 | 11:16AM
Toneyuki wrote:
He thinks paying Californian Teachers Union is a jobs bill.
on August 15,2012 | 06:52PM
busterb wrote:
I would think Lingle would fit right in Congress. Heel dragging, delaying votes, letting things fall apart so she can blame someone else. Wasting Federal $ on great things like Ferries for Alabama.
on August 15,2012 | 07:07AM
PMA wrote:
Delay tactics? How about the Dem controlled senate and the missing budget, now for more than 1,200 days? I guess that's Lingle's fault too.
on August 15,2012 | 09:35AM
2_centz wrote:
Linda, a true to the core republican, will always show her true colors. overall in Congress, the Republicans don't want Obama to win a second term as president. They feel that the Republicans can run the country as "big business". They counldn't be more WRONG. I would think that 90,000 State of Hawaii teachers will make up the 13,000 votes which Linda won the governorship against Mazie. I look forward to a crushing defeat of Linda in the General election.
on August 15,2012 | 07:48AM
tiki886 wrote:
By referring to "big business" do you mean that government would be more responsible and accountable under Republican leadership?
on August 15,2012 | 09:01AM
Gumbo wrote:
They did a great job under Bush, left the US in fine shape.
on August 15,2012 | 10:05AM
tiki886 wrote:
You mean the Democrat sponsored Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that crashed our financial institutions?
on August 15,2012 | 10:13AM
Gumbo wrote:
Yeah, they caused it. Bush didn't do anything but come up with Gazillions.
on August 15,2012 | 10:40AM
9ronboz wrote:
hey, the blame game tactics. cant you come up with real facts?
on August 15,2012 | 11:29AM
Toneyuki wrote:
In 06 before the Dems got control of the house we were in great shape.
on August 15,2012 | 08:20PM
9ronboz wrote:
how mis informed is this person? creating govt jobs is not the solution. the private sector has to creates the jobs. bo couldnt do that and its time for a change
on August 15,2012 | 11:27AM
Charliegrunt wrote:
Focusing on Congress is a smart move. The President can only propose laws, Congress has to pass them to make them law. Both presidential candidates seem to have forgotten that we have paid for social security and Medicare. They are not benefits. The debacle with social security began when LBJ took funds from it and placed it in the general funds so that the deficit would not look s bad as it was. There's a lot of talk about the national debt and no jobs. Then, why is there no discussion about rescinding free trade agreements that allow corporations to manufacture their goods in poor countries at slave wages, and bring them back to the US for sale without paying any tariffs or value added tax (VAT)? Unions should also remember when "made in USA" was a guarantee of quality. Why is there no discussion of ending foreign and military aid to countries that are really not our allies? Why are we, the taxpayers and voters paying for the Administration's and Congress' failures?
on August 15,2012 | 07:58AM
Iuki wrote:
I thought Lingle is running for the Senate, not the House of Reps. She wants to add to the GOP in the Senate, so they can do the same thing they've been doing in the House--blocking every thing Obama proposes! Give me a break. It was bad enough having her as Guv for eight years. Now we are expected to send her to the U.S. Senate to represent Hawaii. Oh, please!
on August 15,2012 | 08:26AM
PMA wrote:
And Mazie is a dysfunctional lap dog with no ideas of her own. How will she know how to vote when "King Dan" finally releases his death grip on his senate seat? Answer: with no thought at all - only prior ideological imprints.
on August 15,2012 | 09:43AM
allie wrote:
Mazie is ok..and farbetter than lingle
on August 15,2012 | 02:02PM
Toneyuki wrote:
elaborate please. In what way is Mazie better?
on August 15,2012 | 08:22PM
PMA wrote:
Allie can't. He/she is confused not knowing which side...rail? Mazie? Male? female? Vegan? Don't ask for reasonably thought, you'll only get "low-informed" new-wave commentary.
on August 15,2012 | 09:12PM
bender wrote:
"I've never met Paul Ryan before, but I feel he deserves some credit for actually proposing a real budget" says Lingle. Naturally Lingle would like Ryan's budget, it favors the 1 percenters while costing the middle class more. Lingle doesn't resonate with the middle class. I'm wondering why she would even mention percenters, be it one or twelve. Surely she must realize the mere mention of any percent will evoke thoughts of the one percenters.
on August 15,2012 | 08:28AM
tiki886 wrote:
Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, as they currently stand, cannot be sustained in the long-term. When Social Security was first enacted, it had 42 workers to pay the taxes for the benefits of 1 retiree. By the 1960s, when Medicare and Medicaid were enacted, that number was down to 5 to 1. Now, that number is 3 to 1. Within the next 30 years, it will drop down to just two workers supporting each retiree.

Ryan's plan would have the government give beneficiaries a fixed amount of money to purchase insurance coverage instead of covering all the medical procedures that a beneficiary needs. If that money isn't enough, beneficiaries have to use their own funds to cover the difference.

Why is this better? Government doesn't care about your health and beneficiaries don't care about the costs. That is the main reason social programs are unsustainable and going broke.


on August 15,2012 | 08:53AM
tiki886 wrote:
I forgot to add. The Ryan plan doesn't affect any senior who today is 55 years and older! This is for future recipients of Medicare so that they have something and not nothing if Congress doesn't fix the problem now!
on August 15,2012 | 11:23AM
Toneyuki wrote:
In what way did Ryan's budget "cost(ing) the middle class more"? There were absolutely no tax hikes for the middle class. Your statement is just more talking point memo shibai.
on August 15,2012 | 08:24PM
nalogirl wrote:
No to Obama, let's get him out before he brings our great country down. Go Linda Go!
on August 15,2012 | 09:13AM
Macadamiamac wrote:
Mazie's campaign promises are b.s. She said the same things when running for the 2d Distr. House and nothing happened. Lingle although a better choice than Hirono will vote what the Republican leadership tells her to (Sen Maj Leader McConell sole goal is to make Obama "a one term President") or be iced out. Therefore totally ineffective. Our best choice was Ed Case, but you blew it. So live with it.
on August 15,2012 | 09:21AM
tiki886 wrote:
When Mazie debates Linda you'll hear a lot of groans and I'll be laughing all night long.
on August 15,2012 | 10:29AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Careful there, tiki886. If you get "collaborative" in the Word Bingo drinking game your liver will never recover. Other dangerous debate words are Mother and Immigrant.
on August 15,2012 | 01:10PM
false wrote:
"Belt said the danger for Lingle is if voters see the Republicans in Congress as more responsible for the dysfunction." I don't think anyone making a rational appraisal of how Congress has performed could come to any other conclusion, unless they've only been watching the FOX Network. Lingle, for all her strategery, won't help the dysfunction. In fact, she'll simply bring it to Hawaii. It will be evident every time she votes against Hawaii's otherwise Democratic delegation.
on August 15,2012 | 09:21AM
dalawyer wrote:
Lingle = Superferry = LOSER! What a crock this wahine has proven to be over the years. She'll do anything for a vote. Hirono isn't the greatest but at least the damage is minimized versus the Lingle alternative!
on August 15,2012 | 09:25AM
tiki886 wrote:
Mazie's duties will be to perpetuate the socialist/communist agenda of the Obama Administration.
on August 15,2012 | 10:31AM
Toneyuki wrote:
I wonder if anyone can point to ANYTHING other than the Superferry to back up their assertions that Lingle did a bad job.
on August 15,2012 | 08:26PM
akuman808 wrote:
Okay Linda, you want us to believe that you will be the one and only republican to vote for tax cuts for the middle class and to insure that Medicare will not be harmful to the seniors? In light of the problems you created by changing the state healthcare from local to for profit provider in Florida. Do you know how many people are still looking for a doctor who will accept Quest? Do you know how many people cannot be covered by Quest because there is a cap on the number of people that can be covered.
on August 15,2012 | 10:17AM
Toneyuki wrote:
Did you know that most doctors are deciding not to accept any new medicare or medicaid patients, because the goobermint is so ful of red tape and doesn't pay enough to run a private practice?
on August 15,2012 | 08:28PM
Kuniarr wrote:
The super ferry could not do anything without a law authorizing it to operate in Hawaiian waters. It was a law that the Democrat controlled Legislature which allowed the super ferry to operate. And the super ferry would have been in operation until now if not for the fact that the law that the Democrat controlled Legislature enacted was struck down as unconstitutional. The demise of the super ferry is the fault of the Democrat controlled legislature for enacting a law that was unconstitutional
on August 15,2012 | 10:34AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
A law that would not have become law without Ms. Lingle's signature. Fact.
on August 15,2012 | 05:06PM
Kuniarr wrote:
True. Being in denial does not detract from the fact that laws are the sole and exclusive responsibility and function of the Democrat controlled legislature.
on August 15,2012 | 05:14PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
The Legislature and Ms. Lingle both bear responsibility. The difference between you and I is that I blame them both. You remain steadfast in your partisan talking point. So be it.
on August 15,2012 | 05:52PM
Kuniarr wrote:
It is not partisan. It is based on the fact that Laws are the sole and exclusive responsibility of the Legislative Branch.
on August 15,2012 | 07:59PM
sailfish1 wrote:
NO to Lingle!! We all know what she did in Hawaii.
on August 15,2012 | 10:34AM
9ronboz wrote:
explain what she did. facts please
on August 15,2012 | 11:30AM
2_centz wrote:
the list of lingles wrong doing is to long to list as facts. when and if in a miracle she beats Mazie, then Lingle's wrongdoing will continue to get longer. fromthis deduction I most certainly don't think Lingle will be victorious. But she is a very strong republican in the democratic state of Hawaii. So we don't need more republicans to be in Hawaii sucking the oxygen.
on August 15,2012 | 11:49AM
tiki886 wrote:
Sucking oxygen is legal. Obama was smokin dope and snortin coke while Romney was creating jobs for Americans.
on August 15,2012 | 12:13PM
skinut wrote:
And what was Romney doing as a young guy? With his buddies, holding down and cutting the hair of a young gay guy. He has tried to portray that as a prank but let's be clear, that was a crime of violence. He claimed that they did not know the victim was gay. Does that matter? What he participated in should have landed him in jail.
on August 15,2012 | 03:51PM
Toneyuki wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

And what was Obama doing in college? WE DON'T KNOW. Where are his college records? SEALED!!!!!


on August 15,2012 | 08:36PM
Changalang wrote:
Lost $1 billion in the Auction Rate Security Scandal, Furlough Fridays, Delayed OUR tax returns, Cut State services to the bone, and the Super Ferry Fiasco. Any serious questions?
on August 15,2012 | 10:20PM
cajaybird wrote:
Thought Hawaii was controlled by Democrats, but you can still blame Lingle?
on August 15,2012 | 05:01PM
PMA wrote:
Confused, aren't they...
on August 15,2012 | 09:13PM
808warriorfan wrote:
SURE AS HECK YES...WORST GOV WE EVER HAD...ALL SHE DID WAS KISS GEORGE BUSH' BACK SIDE !!!!!
on August 15,2012 | 10:10PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Keep in mind our option is Mazie. While in Congress she introduced only 49 bills and none - zero - got passed. She missed over 120 votes, many important, in order to campaign the last 12 months. In 28 years of public service she got wealthy but accomplished little. She is a puppet to the old school which assure Hawaii will be ignored in Congress once Uncle Dan leaves. Almost inarticulate, uber-liberal and proven ineffective. That's the option. Got to admit it - we are well and truly scroo'd with our choices this time around.
on August 15,2012 | 11:31AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Pritchett cartoon said it all "The better of two weevils". When I stand over my ballot these days, I'm usually voting to keep someone out of office instead of voting to keep someone in. Alas we have met the enemy and it is "I".
on August 15,2012 | 11:44AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
I was proactive and wrote the Olympic Committee and they sent me those nose clips that the swimmers wear. I simply put one on (two when dealing with Congressional races) and vote. Can't smell a thing anymore.
on August 15,2012 | 01:07PM
Carl_C wrote:
If Lingle REALLY wants to be bipartisan, she'll pledge never to vote to uphold the filibusters her Republican friends use routinely to block everything Obama tries to do. Not very bloody likely!
on August 15,2012 | 11:44AM
tiki886 wrote:
Bi-partisan doesn't mean give up your principles so the commies in Congress can steal our Money, Freedom and Liberty!
on August 15,2012 | 12:16PM
Toneyuki wrote:
Come 2013 it won't be the Republicans filibustering.
on August 15,2012 | 08:37PM
808warriorfan wrote:
She claimed that on her primary tv ads...listen to her now !!!!!
on August 15,2012 | 10:09PM
eflovell wrote:
Congress may have a 12% approval rating, but this is in LARGE part due to the obstructionism and political gridlock forced on the nation by the Republican majority in the House--the very people Linda Lingle intends to support if we are foolish enough to send her to Washington. Lingle is basically saying: "Congress if awful, let me make it even worse!"
on August 15,2012 | 01:15PM
Toneyuki wrote:
They had a horrible approval rating 2 years ago when the Dems controlled the house, the senate, and the white house too.
on August 15,2012 | 08:38PM
allie wrote:
Lingle is an absolutely cynical person and a total manipulator. Beware of her big-time and expensive mainland advisers. She will use any tactic to steal this seat and hurt Hawaii
on August 15,2012 | 02:01PM
Changalang wrote:
Yes, THEY will. Senate map is at 50/50 with the ME Senator caucusing with Democrats as predicted. The whole GOP national operation sees the Lingle seat as a gateway to a majority, as 51 is needed by the Constitution, or the Senate President leads (whoever the VP is). If Hawaii Democrats want to stay home, give the Senate to the GOP, and shame President Obama, then they can have that on their conscience. I for one, as one of the biggest Mazie detractors here, will vote for her to spite the worst thing about America; Republican scum. Go Mazie Go !
on August 15,2012 | 04:51PM
Changalang wrote:
As a defensive measure, President Obama can name Senator Clinton his new VP and dump Biden. Obama/Clinton would put her in the driver's seat for 2016, thereby insuring Bill will play nice; and also give a talented allie the potential to run the Senate via the de facto appointment. Dan Inouye supported Hillary in 2008; a Clinton VP candidacy would make Hawaii stronger. The President has a few weeks to decide on keeping Joe "Blow it" Biden or going with team Clinton. Thanks to Palin for the excellent strategy, believe it or not.
on August 15,2012 | 05:06PM
Toneyuki wrote:
PLEASE DO!!!!

Dump Biden!!!!!! I would love to see how he would react! You know what they say "A woman scorned......"

HAHAHAHA

I would love to see "Obama/Clinton" bumper stickers!!!!

Romney/Ryan straight to the white house!!!! WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO


on August 15,2012 | 08:43PM
Changalang wrote:
Too much Kool Aide will kill off those lat few braincells. Bottoms up. :)
on August 15,2012 | 09:39PM
PMA wrote:
Hey dumbbell, Clinton is not a senator. And you are going to vote. God help us.
on August 15,2012 | 09:16PM
Changalang wrote:
" On December 1, 2008, former two-term Sen. Hillary Clinton was nominated to be President Obama's Secretary of State. Her nomination was approved by a Senate vote of 94-2, and she was sworn in on January 22, 2009. ".......Senator Clinton has many titles. In 2016, She will be President Clinton; the sequel, genius. LOL.
on August 15,2012 | 09:41PM
Toneyuki wrote:
Steal the seat? Who is she stealing it from? As far as I know, it's the peoples seat and who ever we elect belongs in it. Be it Lingle or Hirono. If you have any facts about voter fraud please call the police or whoever is responsible for keeping elections honest. Otherwise, you are just throwing shibai around by claiming someone is trying to "steal" an election.
on August 15,2012 | 08:41PM
808warriorfan wrote:
SHE'S A LYING ... YOU KNOW THAT WORD THAT RHYMES W/ WITCH !!!!!
on August 15,2012 | 10:08PM
false wrote:
false3. Wonder what happened to all the recent primary "Lazy Mazie", "Anybody but Mazie", "Do Nothing Mazie" proponents? Guess what - they're all going to vote for- who -Mazie?
on August 15,2012 | 02:22PM
Mallory wrote:
Its really unfortunate that there is no good candidates on either the Republican side or the Democratic side.
on August 15,2012 | 04:03PM
Changalang wrote:
This seat is about ideology. A vote for a Republican Senate hurts resources to Hawaii, while a vote for a Democrat for this seat insures more for Hawaii. Unity to Progress Forward.
on August 15,2012 | 04:54PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
There you go being practical again.
on August 15,2012 | 05:07PM
Toneyuki wrote:
The problem is that too many people think that "resources to Hawaii" comes from the Federal government.
on August 15,2012 | 08:44PM
PMA wrote:
What if the chosen one looses in November? Think that can't happen? If it happens, wouldnt Lingle be a benefit to you "takers"? Think about it...
on August 15,2012 | 09:21PM
Changalang wrote:
We are too dependent on the flow of Federal dollars back to Hawaii through Emperor Dan. Without it, people would suffer greatly. Lingle gambled away almost 1 billion dollars of our tax money in the Auction Rate Security market and it crippled the State. Senator Inouye will not live forever. He needs to bring back what he can of OUR Federal tax dollars while he can. Sequester starts soon; so Federal government worker parasites here will have to scratch it out in the private market like the rest of us, or move to somewhere they can afford. Hawaii will be changed forever in a post Dan world. Romney picked Ryan because they know they cannot win. He is simply setting Ryan up for 2016. Send more of your mainland money to lie to the Hawaii people about Lingle. Spend it all. We are Hawaii, we don't forget. Lingle will be furloughed from public service in November indefinitely. :)
on August 15,2012 | 09:35PM
PMA wrote:
SA wouldn't clear my comment about Mazie's IQ <2 digits...
on August 15,2012 | 09:25PM
kolekole wrote:
Where's Mazie? Gone with the Makana's! Now you see her, now you don't. More of the same being a lame duck Rep!
on August 15,2012 | 10:05PM
Changalang wrote:
Mazie is Dan's second vote the way Akaka was before her. The only thing changing is the name plate. There really isn't much to get riled up over when all is said and done. Lingle caused great harm to Hawaii as Governor. Mazie wormed a seat for eight years. Given a choice of letting Lingle do more harm; or Mazie do more nothing, the choice is simple.
on August 15,2012 | 10:14PM
808warriorfan wrote:
WORST GOV WE EVER HAD...ALL SHE WAS GOOD FOR WAS KISSING GEORGE BUSH' BACK SIDE. IN HER PRIMARY TV ADS SHE'S SAYING HOW SHE CAN WORK W/ BOTH SIDES...LISTEN TO HER NOW...WHAT A LIAR !!!
on August 15,2012 | 10:07PM
808warriorfan wrote:
LINGLE THE LIAR !!!!!
on August 15,2012 | 10:10PM
808warriorfan wrote:
LINGLE THE LIAR...
on August 15,2012 | 10:11PM
boshio wrote:
Lingle is by far the superior candidate. The biggest problem is that all republicans in congress cannot be trusted, and they are strong enough to railroad Lingle to vote along party line, period. Talking about being a puppet, she would be it. On the other side Hirono is just taking up space, really doing not much for Hawaii, except will follow Dan's lead. Which is better, vote republican, or, democract? We should all start going to church.
on August 30,2012 | 07:31AM
harryuhanejim wrote:
Hawaii is presently in military occupation..Has been that way since our Queen was put in prison by the american government for which Bill Clinton Validated , and apologized for, and promised reparations. .. the very same idea that puts us in war with the middle eastern countries..THEIR MILITARY OCCUPATION OF THEIR CITIZENS? So you think the rest of the world does not us The United States as a bully?... As we travel all over this country. We find that the... Lackawanna, Ny. Detroit, Michigan,... trash land, and the cheap paying jobs are being taken over by middle eastern community people.. Where ever you are.... The East indian has a huge role in Motel, and hotel industry in America.. the cooperates may own the high end.. but the vast majority of people in this country see republican high nose community as totally viewing the darky's out of the hole in their thinking ------that they are better some how than the rest of us. NOT happening. Americans are not the 'sea of white" you saw at the republican convention... This is not who we are anymore. and The Hawaiian. Well We are a MAJORITY.... in the collective of the minorities, we have no enemies. We are due BACK RENT. ...Most of my friends in Buffalo have while male blood.. LIke me they are half something. Portuguese. or polish, or Hungarian, or german. and they have had the fathers that have said 'i' am in charge no matter how stupid that sounds, your mother is second, and not equal to me. now partnerships dont' work that way anymore.. unless of course your living with more than your fair share... oh. republicans again. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THE HAWAIIAN NATION ARE NOT HAWAIIANS. THEY ARE THE AMPERICAN OPPRESED OIL CARTELS. please wake up as smell the sand.
on September 4,2012 | 09:53PM
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