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Hirono, Lingle agree on state's energy goals

While self-sufficiency is a common focus, the candidates split on how to attain it

By Derrick DePledge

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LAST UPDATED: 11:46 a.m. HST, Aug 27, 2012


Hawaii has committed to weaning itself off fossil fuel by mandating 70 percent clean energy by 2030 — 40 percent from renewable sources such as wind, solar and geothermal and 30 percent from energy efficiency. Thirty states have adopted renewable portfolio standards, but the struggle is how to turn those goals into action.

U.S. Rep. Mazie Hirono, the Demo­cratic candidate for U.S. Senate, and former Gov. Linda Lingle, the Republican, have embraced renewable energy to help break Hawaii's $4.5 billion-a-year dependence on imported oil. But they disagree on the route.

Hirono has called for a national renewable energy and efficiency standard to generate 25 percent of the country's energy from renewable sources by 2025. She would also extend solar tax credits for homeowners and businesses and reduce tax incentives for the oil industry. She is open to an interisland cable that would move energy between the islands in Hawaii. She strongly objects to expanded offshore oil drilling on the mainland.

Lingle, as governor, was instrumental in creating Hawaii's renewable energy goals. But she opposes a national standard as an unnecessary mandate. She would eventually phase out tax breaks for solar and oil because of the drain on state and federal budgets. She supports an interisland cable. She would consider more offshore oil drilling on the mainland as an option to reduce the nation's reliance on foreign oil.

"Energy self-sufficiency is a national concern, and the price of oil is not going down any time soon," said Hirono, who patterned her national renewable energy standard on a Pentagon initiative.

Hirono said a national standard would not pre-empt the Hawaii Clean Energy Initiative or other state renewable portfolio standards. She said it would provide an incentive for the federal government and the private sector to invest in renewable energy, with states such as Hawaii potentially leading the way.

"We spend $4 billion on importing oil," she said. "And if we move aggressively, as we are, toward alternative renewables and using efficiency measures, then that's money that would be circulating in our economy."

Lingle said Hirono has a "fundamental lack of knowledge" about renewable energy policy and the efforts already taking place in Hawaii and most other states.

"I think her big-government, Washington, D.C., one-size-fits-all standard for energy is a reflection of her general feeling that the federal government knows what's best, and my feeling that the local communities know what's best," she said.

Lingle said Hawaii's renewable energy goals were established through bipartisan collaboration among her Republican administration, Demo­crats in the state Legislature, the state's utilities, environmentalists and the U.S. Department of Energy. She said the role of the federal government was to serve as an "honest broker" among competing interests, not to set mandates.

Many of the state's leaders on renewable energy, however, do not see danger in a national standard.

Hermina Morita, chairwoman of the state Public Utilities Commission, said a national standard would set a floor that could give the renewable energy market stability. She said there could be less interest in developing renewable energy for the long term if alternatives such as liquefied natural gas, for example, become cost-effective fuel options.

"The technology needs stability in moving forward," she said. "And the developers need a sense of predictability, a certainty, to sustain the market."

Mark Duda, principal and founder at RevoluSun, one of Hawaii's top solar companies, said a national standard would help focus the nation on renewable energy and fuel technologies. "It carves out a space in which you can innovate around the development of renewable energy," he said.

Hawaii appears ready to take more decisive action on renewable energy, but there is resistance over cost, equity and environmental risk. The state is considering whether to scale back a 35 percent tax credit for solar that, combined with a 30 percent federal credit that expires in 2016, gives homeowners and businesses a significant — and some say overly generous — incentive. Environmental and Native Hawaiian activists have protested a $1 billion interisland cable as an overreach that would divert neighbor island wind and geothermal resources to satisfy Oahu's energy needs. Community activists in Hawaii County are worried about the health and safety dangers of geothermal exploration.

Hirono would extend the state and federal tax credits for solar while reducing tax breaks and other subsidies for the oil industry. Lingle said she would phase out tax incentives for both renewable energy and fossil fuel over time because of the federal deficit but would give enough advance notice so consumers and businesses could make adjustments.

Both Hirono and Lingle support the concept of an interisland cable but want to ensure the neighbor islands gain substantial benefit from the proj­ect. Both candidates take a similar approach to geothermal.

"Clearly, the communities that are going to be impacted need to be at the table," Hirono said, adding that energy efficiency on each island is important before resources are transported between the islands.

Hirono said all renewable options should remain on the table.

"There's geothermal. There's wind. There's solar. There's ocean. We have a range. There's biofuels," she said. "We have a whole range of alternatives and renewables we can look to. And not to mention that we ought to be spending time on figuring out how to cut our energy use to begin with by becoming much more efficient."

Lingle believes an interconnected energy grid is critical.

"It's the same as having a transportation system that can link us up," she said. "It's having an energy system where the energy goes in both directions."

While there is no perfect source of energy, Lingle said, anything is better than relying on foreign oil.

"No matter what form, no matter what the nature of the source of energy is, whether it's burning oil or coal, whether it's wind energy, whether it's geothermal, whatever the source, there is something that's not perfect about it," she said. "But there is nothing as bad as sitting in the middle of the Pacific Ocean dependent upon 80 percent of our electricity — our energy — coming from foreign nations and foreign companies."

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential candidate, says North America could achieve energy independence by 2020 through expanded oil drilling off Virginia, North Caro­lina, the Gulf of Mexico and in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska.

President Barack Obama has also sought to increase domestic oil and natural gas production, but Romney's proposal is more aggressive and would transfer authority from the federal government to the states.

"I definitely don't support drilling in ANWR and other pristine areas or highly delicate areas," Hirono said. "And this continued reliance on fossil fuels is not the way to go over the long term."

Lingle said domestic oil and natural gas production is key to eventually eliminating dependence on foreign oil from unreliable sources. She said the United States should keep its options open in geographic areas with proven oil reserves, while following environmental safeguards, especially in places such as ANWR.

"I believe the track record of the Alaska pipeline has demonstrated that with proper planning, environmental sensitivity and implementation, it is possible to extract and transport domestic oil and gas resources without serious adverse impacts to tourism, fishing, wildlife migration, flora and fauna," she said.






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Kalli wrote:
yes, and renewables are also the most expensive sources for energy. Why put in place a mandate for a % of renewables and then eliminate or reduce the tax incentives. Typical backwards thinking.
on August 27,2012 | 04:01AM
allie wrote:
Lingle could not care less about Hawaii. She has a national agenda.
on August 27,2012 | 06:24AM
OldDiver wrote:
Renewable energy is not more expensive than invading counties for their oil, killing thousands of American soldiers and tens of thousands of innocent civilians.
on August 27,2012 | 08:36AM
OldDiver wrote:
We have 3% of the world oil reserves but use about 20% of the worlds oil. We can't drill our way our of this.
on August 27,2012 | 08:39AM
Cal65 wrote:
We use a large percentage of the world's oil because we produce a large percentage of the worlds manufactured goods. I'm getting tired of this implication that we waste energy to power our SUVs and yachts. Update your numbers; the US has centuries of energy within its borders but lacks the will to exploit it.
on August 27,2012 | 08:57AM
wiliki wrote:
Nope the US is the most heavy user of fossil fuels. We need to wean ourselves away from that.
on August 27,2012 | 09:20AM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
OldDiver, the *good news* is President Obama’s “algae” energy strategy [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/02/23/147_obama_if_we_could_make_energy_out_of_algae_well_be_alright.html] that then-presidential candidate Newt Gingrich mocked last March where ARPA-E is funding a breakthrough electrofuel technology wherein genetically programmed microbes consuming hydrogen and carbon dioxide secrete fatty acids that can upgraded to $2.50/gallon drop-in jet fuel, diesel and gasoline (for proof google “ARPA-E electrofuel” for YouTube videos). What this says is forget wind, PV, etc. because HECO can produce its own 100% indigenous, self-sufficient diesel from its own waste carbon dioxide emissions (with hydrogen from the plasma gasification of municipal solid waste). Another implication is “clean coal” (or clean natural gas if you wish) where because waste carbon dioxide is a feedstock for electrofuels that *displace* petrol fuels -- that leaves a net zero carbon footprint!
on August 27,2012 | 10:20AM
SteveToo wrote:
You must be a "dreamer" Hawaii_INTP. $2.50 a gallon from algae, yea when in the year 2150?
on August 27,2012 | 02:55PM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
The $2.50/gallon comes from an ARPA-E fact sheet [http://arpa-e.energy.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Projects/Annual%20Report%20Project%20Highlights/OPX%20Novel%20Biological%20-%20Project%20Highlights.pdf] and ARPA 2012 showcase video (see video description) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gP0iFK2x8c].
on August 27,2012 | 05:06PM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
Another benchmark is Joule Unlimited's solar fuel wherein genetically programmed microbes need carbon dioxide, non-potable water and *sunlight* to secrete drop-in diesel at $1.19/gallon [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gP0iFK2x8c]. Joule has raised over $100 million in private investment and is now building a commercial scale facility in New Mexico with an empirically measured yield of 15,000 gallons/acres (1,200 to 5,000 acres or 18 MGY to 75 MGY) to be operational in 2013. Note that HELCO & MECO respectively have a 40 MGY & 60 MGY fuel requirement (2,700 acres & 4,050 acres) -- which means that if they started preliminary engineering in 2012 they could be 100% indigenous fuel self-sufficient by 2015.
on August 27,2012 | 05:19PM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
Oops, Joule Unlimited @ $1.19/gallon article link is [http://www.technologyreview.com/news/426640/photosynthesis-fuel-company-gets-a-large/].
on August 27,2012 | 05:28PM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
To wrap your head around this breakthrough, the metaphor I like is that whereas *previous* algae technology required "slaughtering the cow" to get its animal fat (algae oil) -- current algae technology is like "milking the cow" where genetically programmed microbes now secrete drop-in diesel @ $1.29/gallon diesel (Joule Unlimited) or fatty acids (ARPA-E's OPXBIO) which can be upgraded to drop-in jet fuel, diesel or gasoline @ less than $2.50/gallon.
on August 27,2012 | 05:25PM
palani wrote:
Joule Unlimited is more investor cash generating hype than reality. In 2004, the US consumed 140 billion gallons of gasoline. Joule believes it can produce 15,000 gallons of diesel per acre. To eliminate the former would require more than 9 million acres, an area greater than Connecticut and Massachusetts combined.

Last year this blog's resident engineer, wiliki repeatedly touted Italian inventor Andrea Rossi's claim that he had perfected a cold fusion device, an event met with much deserved scientific skepticism. A promised pilot plant never materialized. We are still waiting.

This is not to dismiss the efforts of these private entities in their alchemic aspirations. The next true energy breakthrough will almost certainly come not from government but from the private sector.

In the meantime, let us not ignore our proven abundant reserves of oil, natural gas, and coal. The market will decide when a superior alternative presents itself.


on August 27,2012 | 06:40PM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
Uh Palani re “Joule Unlimited is more investor cash generating hype than reality” is the fact that private investors *did* pony-up over $100 million cash to invest in *private sector* energy breakthrough (read *zero* government participation) Joule Unlimited which is a private equity “market test” reality (v. generating hype) [also note that former Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta is a Director of Joule Unlimited and has risked his sterling *good name* (reputation) on Joule Unlimited]. No clue where you are coming from in commenting “more than 9 million acres, an area greater than Connecticut and Massachusetts combined” because Joule Unlimited is acreage feasible for HELCO & MECO (i.e., HELCO’s 2,700 acres for 40 MGY fuel requirement & MECO’s 4,050 acres for 60 MGY fuel requirement). If you are pro-“proven abundant reserves of oil, natural gas, and coal” please see my “clean coal” (or “clean” natural gas or oil) comments above to OldDiver re ARPA-E electrofuel OPXBIO in which carbon dioxide is a valuable feedstock for producing drop-in jet fuel, diesel and gasoline @ $2.50/gallon. Or even better, should HELCO & MECO import coal to generate electricity (for comparison, HECO now pays coal-burning AES Hawaii *only* 3 cents/kWh) -- as an added profit-making line of business for Hawaiian Electric Industries, HELCO & MECO could produce drop-in diesel @ $1.19/gallon.
on August 27,2012 | 07:24PM
palani wrote:
Do the math, Hawaii_INTP, and you'll see why at least 9 million acres would be needed. However, since Hawaii represents only about 1/300 of the total U.S. population, perhaps we would only need 30,000 acres set aside within our own state.

Political hack and Center for American Progress Chair John Podesta's affiliation with Joule Unlimited is highly suspect. His presence there suggests that Joule will be soon feeding at the public subsidy trough.

If you are for coal, then I agree with you.


on August 28,2012 | 07:10AM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
palani, HECO pays coal-burning AES Hawaii *only* 3 cents/kWh. Waste CO2 is feedstock to OPXBIO which can produce drop-in jet fuel, diesel and gasoline at $2.50/gallon. Coal OPXBIO is Hawaii's *lowest* cost strategy to be 100% *oil* independent with a net *zero* carbon footprint (because OPXBIO's electrofuel displaces petrol fuels). Problem is that provision 8 of the Hawaii Clean Energy Initiative agreement makes coal "undiscussable" so it is off-the-table as far as Hawaii's energy policymakers are concerned.
on August 28,2012 | 08:33AM
allie wrote:
true
on August 27,2012 | 03:51PM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
So true. If Lingle cared about Hawaii she would *not* have signed the Hawaii Clean Energy Initiative Agreement wherein provision 8 makes coal taboo. When the voters learn about the 11:1 or 1,000% economic gap between HECO's August 2012 residential rate of 34.5 cents/kWh and that HECO pays coal-burning AES Hawaii *only* 3 cents/kWh, she will be political toast.
on August 27,2012 | 09:48AM
Hawaii_INTP wrote:
Now that the Abercrombie Administration has crossed the "clean" energy/CO2-emitting Rubicon by advocating the importation of LNG, if Governor Abercrombie had any political smarts he should bring this 11:1 or 1,000% economic gap to the public's attention by terminating the HCEI Agreement for voters to hold Lingle accountable in her senatorial bid for this world-class public policy disaster.
on August 27,2012 | 09:52AM
boshio wrote:
Linda is by far the better candidate. Her biggest problem is that it is very hard for most people to trust the Republicans in congress. They will no doubt control her in every way to mainly promote the Republican's ideology, thereby, she will not benefit Hawaii any better than Hirono the puppet.
on September 4,2012 | 08:01AM
palani wrote:
Both Lingle and Hirono are wrong. Our focus should be on lowering energy costs, not replacing proven and abundant resources with orders-of-magnitude more expensive "green" alternatives. RINO Lingle followed the herd with her uncritical support of ethanol mandates, a policy which has resulted in much higher food costs around the world, adversely impacting those who can least afford it.
on August 27,2012 | 06:59AM
soundofreason wrote:
So far, the more pv systems in place - the higher our HECO bills go. New math?
on August 27,2012 | 07:29AM
wiliki wrote:
I think that these pv systems seem to be overpriced. I can see doing more research to make them less costly and more efficient. But only marginally competitive systems should be given subsidies to make them a reliable resource.
on August 27,2012 | 09:24AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Don't worry, the Chinese will come out with way cheaper versions in the near future. They'll just have their army of little Chinese girls make them since they no longer have to make firecrackers one by one by hand for us.
on August 27,2012 | 02:08PM
bobbob wrote:
Agreed. Nice to see that some people "get it". PV and other renewables are still far too expensive. RIght now, the companies get huge interest free loans, and the government needs to give consumers large credits to subsidize the cost of these systems. Without the $5000 - 10000 credits, almost no one would buy these systems, and the companies would all go bankrupt. Long story short, overall consumers are paying MORE for these clean energy initiatives in 2 ways - cost of subsidies raising tax bills and higher electric bills.
on August 27,2012 | 09:46AM
Kawipoo wrote:
Just use the hot air from both of the candidates. We can use balloons to go from one place to another.
on August 27,2012 | 05:43AM
allie wrote:
Both agree on this as it is so obvious.
on August 27,2012 | 06:23AM
cocoschoice wrote:
One difference Depledge doesn't mention is a record of achievement in domestic, clean energy. The first sentence of his article references the oft-quoted 70% clean energy by 2030 for Hawaii. Remember folks, that goal and all of the steps taken toward achieving it were set by Lingle. Sen. Inouye supported the unprecedented federal partnership. Where was Hirono? You cant run on campaign rhetoric alone, Mazie. We - the voters - really are smarter than that.
on August 27,2012 | 06:23AM
wiliki wrote:
Hirono was busy supporting federal initiatives in Congress.
on August 27,2012 | 09:26AM
Recce wrote:
"Many of the state's leaders on renewable energy, however, do not see danger in a national standard." "Many"? Really? The writer goes on to quote just two (many?) people: 1) Hermina Morita, longtime Democrat legislator from Kauai who was appointed by Governor Abercrombie to Chair the PUC. What a surprise Morita falls into line behind Hirono! Who would have imagined THAT? And 2) Mark Duda. Don't know a heck of a lot about him other than he was a board member and president of the Hawaii Solar Energy Association before his fellow board members kicked him off the board earlier this year. It would be too much to expect a free press to mention that Morita is a longtime Democrat Party stalwart, but in any event, let's edit this story to say "At least two folks, however, do not see danger in a national standard."
on August 27,2012 | 06:47AM
fstop wrote:
"She would eventually phase out tax breaks for solar and oil because of the drain on state and federal budgets."

Eventually, yes...when 70% "clean energy" is achieved. Without these incentives, there is zero chance it will happen.


on August 27,2012 | 06:57AM
soundofreason wrote:
Then maybe is shouldn't happen. Or maybe that's why costs aren't coming down because they CAN get these "incentives" instead of depending on the private market to GET competitive. I have the same philosophy in regard to student education. These universities can send these kids out to get student loans - SO EASILY - that the money just keeps flowing. If there WERE no loans to be had, they'd have to adjust their pricing to get people to be ABLE to attend. Now, these kids are graduating in debt up to their eyeballs, but what do the universities care - they got THEIR money.
on August 27,2012 | 07:34AM
palani wrote:
You're right about the correlation between student loans and the cost of higher education, soundofreason. For years colleges have increased tuition at a rate far exceeding inflation, simply because this federally subsidized assistance is too easily available. And now our President wants loan forgiveness!
on August 27,2012 | 07:47AM
soundofreason wrote:
Part of his dismantling America from within. He's for anything that will spend us into oblivian.
on August 27,2012 | 08:01PM
bobbob wrote:
Another good post.
on August 27,2012 | 09:47AM
soundofreason wrote:
and thank you sir.
on August 27,2012 | 08:01PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Is this supposed to be an ugly hair contest?
on August 27,2012 | 07:20AM
kainalu wrote:
The GOP platform in general, however, isn't on board. Too much Big Oil influence in that party.
on August 27,2012 | 07:52AM
akuman808 wrote:
Many states are running deficits, shedded thousands of jobs, thousands on the unemployment and state assistance programs and unable to maintain basic infrastructure improvements. That is the reality of what exists and absent of any real soutions by any aspiring politician. Both Hirono and Lingle will face a toxic and divided Congress no matter who gets elected. The notion that either would make a difference is not plausible. I like many see government as distrustful and self interest driven.
on August 27,2012 | 08:16AM
2_centz wrote:
Overall, the wind farm at Kahuku has lost 50% of it's battery storage bank from the fire. So that tell us, someone doesn't know everything that is needed to know about this wind farm.
on August 27,2012 | 08:29AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Hirono has called for a national renewable energy and efficiency standard ...

"Called for?" What good does that do? I call for a national free burritos and cold beer strategy and get the same results. This is why Mazie has not got even one single crummy piece of legislation passed into law. Calling for something and actually doing something are far apart.


on August 27,2012 | 09:18AM
loquaciousone wrote:
I second the motion but make mine pizzas.
on August 27,2012 | 10:15AM
iwanaknow wrote:
I'll pass on the beer, give me a clean glass of water.
on August 27,2012 | 10:31AM
WesleySMori wrote:
"I'LL HAVE BOTH"!! "LOL"!! :-) !!!!!!!
on August 27,2012 | 10:55AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
I knew I could trust you jokers to chime in on this. THHHHFFFFPPPPT!
on August 27,2012 | 04:09PM
Ronin006 wrote:
Mazie said "We spend $4 billion on importing oil. And if we move aggressively, as we are, toward alternative renewables and using efficiency measures, then that's money that would be circulating in our economy." Really, Mazie? She just does not know that the alternate energy to replace the $4 billion in imported oil will cost two or three times more, which means there will be $8 billion to $12 billion LESS circulating in our econo0my. And she wants to be our US Senator. Unbelievable.
on August 27,2012 | 09:41AM
LanaUlulani wrote:


The only TRUE "green" energy comes from indigenous people.

These versions of "green" energy refer to tax dollars as in OUR hard-earned money which THEY want to spend.


on August 27,2012 | 12:28PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
OK, so let's start burning indigenous people.
on August 27,2012 | 04:09PM
Tarakian wrote:
Thanks for the discussion. Focus should be on lowering energy cost. For now, more oil, coal, gas and nuclear ("cuss" word) energy. When renewable energy is affordable by the private sector without government subsidies, then we can make the switch as consumers. Lingle is a moderate and willing to consider producing more oil and gas and coal domestically then the very liberal Hirono in lowering our energy bills. Bottom line, liberal policies raise the consumer energy bills. Conservative policies will lower energy bills.
on August 27,2012 | 01:43PM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
Anybody but Mazie!
on August 27,2012 | 01:59PM
allie wrote:
We all are voting Mazie hon. We are not fools and we know how much we would suffer with lignle.
on August 27,2012 | 03:52PM
SteveToo wrote:
Hirano wants to "reduce tax incentives for the oil industry.".. She wants to "She strongly objects to expanded offshore oil drilling on the mainland." The woman is NUTS. We need to produce more oil from N. America.
on August 27,2012 | 02:52PM
loquaciousone wrote:
It's the push to put a windmill on each car to promote renewable energy. In case the wind dies down each driver will have a paddle made from genuine Koa wood carved by a famous wood carver who works deep in the forest in Waimea Valley with traditional tools only such as a Crafstman wood planer and Skil jig saw.
on August 27,2012 | 02:59PM
usahwn wrote:
The two most undesirables to represent Hawaii . Vote non of the above .
on August 27,2012 | 08:12PM
usahwn wrote:
And yet somebody gets elected ; which is the lesser of the evil ?
on August 27,2012 | 08:14PM
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