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Website aimed at Cayetano is not being very nice itself

By Lee Cataluna

POSTED:



First off, a website that starts a petition to wag a scolding finger at a former governor, admonishing him to "be nice," is by its own definition of the term, not very nice. It takes a personal shot at Ben Cayetano.

Pacific Resource Partnership, a collective of Hawaii contractors and the Hawaii Carpenters Union, sounded the alarm when Cayetano dared to question U.S. Sen. Dan Inouye's support of Honolulu's rail transit project in a mayoral debate last week. PRP launched a website (www.beniceben.com) urging voters to reprimand Cayetano and make him eat his words.

Usually when a person is told to "be nice," a power play is going on. Like a parent warning an unruly child, you call into question that person's ability to gauge the social situation. It's akin to calling Cayetano "out of touch." "Be nice" is also something you say to someone who is being brutally honest.

Ben Cayetano should not be nice.

He's at his best when playing the contrarian, speaking his mind and stepping on toes.

"Did you hear what former Governor Ben Cayetano said at last Wednesday's mayoral debate?" the text on the website says — a breathless, gossipy introduction if ever there was one.

It goes on to say that Cayetano launched a "mean-spirited" and "personal attack."

But this is what Cayetano reportedly said:

"Senator Inouye is up at the 30,000-foot level dealing with national and international affairs. … The senator should take time to go down to McDonald's and talk to the retirees who go there to eat breakfast because it's cheap."

And also:

"He's out of touch, as far as I'm concerned. I respect Senator Ino­uye — he's done a lot for our country and for our state — but we shouldn't defer to him."

That's it? Wow, a personal attack used to be saying something about a guy's mother or the color of his skin or the person he sleeps next to at night. If calling Inouye "out of touch" is a personal attack, some people in Hawaii have been personally attacking the senator for years.

Of all people, Inouye can take it. He absolutely deserves respect, but it is not disrespectful to criticize a politician on a topic as serious and complex as spending billions on rail.

"When Ben Cayetano disrespects Senator Inouye — a man of integrity and honor with a distinguished record of public service — he's disrespecting all of us," the website says.

Please.

None of this is really about being nice or showing respect or Ben going rogue by daring to disagree with The Man. It's about money to be made from rail and the threat Cayetano's candidacy poses to the rail project.

The real disrespect is to Oahu residents, who should be trusted to weigh the issues for and against rail rather than talked-down-to with phony schoolyard outrage.

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Reach Lee Cataluna at lcataluna@staradvertiser.com.






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DPK wrote:
Well written. Interesting how people and groups will "elbow" their way towards the public money trough. Unfortunately, the motivation here is more for personal rather than community benefit. GO Ben GO!
on May 13,2012 | 03:22AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
Lee makes good points, but the majority of people who support rail do so because of the benefits it delivers. And while jobs is a big benefit, having an efficient transportation system that takes cars off the roads, reliably gets people to and from work, school and other activities. Ben on the other hand offers no solution. His entire campaign is based on taking away the only viable solution to move large numbers of people where they want to go, dependably at an affordable fare (same as the bus).
on May 13,2012 | 07:04AM
Wazdat wrote:
oh please the current rail plan will NOT help much people at all and does NOT go to UH or Waikiki. Waste of money.
on May 13,2012 | 07:25AM
hybrid1 wrote:
The City's Alternative Analysis ( City spent $10 million of taxpayers money for study) shows that with the $6 Billion rail, the bottleneck congestion at the three major H-1 merges will increase by over 500 %.
on May 13,2012 | 09:00AM
wiliki wrote:
How would CayetaNO like being called "out of touch" when he is Inouye's age?
on May 13,2012 | 09:06AM
PMA wrote:
Working today, eh wiliki? Getting overtime?
on May 13,2012 | 09:18AM
hilocal wrote:
Cayetano's out of touch comment was regarding a local topic, rail, and us ordinary people. It had nothing to do with Inouye's age. He paid due respect to Inouye's having to spend his time on national and international issues.
on May 13,2012 | 09:34AM
wiliki wrote:
CayetaNO should know that the facts speak otherwise. It's really his bigotry against Inouye showing. Rail involves federal funding. It is NOT a local issue. CayetaNO has mush for brains if he thinks otherwise, and thinks that Inouye wont bring home the bacon.
on May 13,2012 | 01:16PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Wiliki is either out of touch or deliberately lying. What the heck is wiliki talking about that rail involves federal funding and not a local issue? Of the $5,270 million funding for rail, FTA funding is $1,550 million and UAFF grants $0.244.77 million. That's only $1,794.7 million in federal funding out of $5,2770 million.
on May 13,2012 | 02:00PM
hybrid1 wrote:
The senile senator comment that only WWIII will stop rail is a definite sign that he is suffering from alzheimer. He should have been be in Arcadia intensive care 5 years ago.
on May 13,2012 | 04:51PM
wondermn1 wrote:
wiliki, He would brush it off like any intelligent individual. Go Ben Go
on May 13,2012 | 09:41AM
Poipounder808 wrote:
wiliki...funniest comment yet "Rail involves fereal funding. It is NOT a local issue". Hahahahahaha. you are such a clown.
on May 13,2012 | 01:27PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
He doesn't have to wait long.
on May 13,2012 | 09:41AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
CayetaNO is at the 2000 ft level because that's the highest in the East Oahu. Oh wait, that's Waialae Iki ridge right! Okay maybe 25,000 ft.because of luxury. Do they have McDonalds up there?
on May 13,2012 | 01:23PM
hybrid1 wrote:
The babbling Nanakuli.
on May 13,2012 | 04:52PM
Ambergris23 wrote:
Cayetano's comment wasn't referring to Inouye's age, but "out of touch" w/ the people he is representing. I am not a Cayetano supporter, but this article was well-written and points the finger at who's really not "being nice".
on May 13,2012 | 02:54PM
hybrid1 wrote:
CAyetano is 72, a youngster compared to the senile, drooling senator who is 88 years old and should resign.
on May 13,2012 | 04:49PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
The babbling hybrid.
on May 13,2012 | 09:47PM
groinksan wrote:
Progressive union bot alert! Alinsky tactics - taking Cayetano's name and playing around with it. Yup, that's talking about the issue at-hand.
on May 14,2012 | 12:11AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Hey wiliki, you are out of touch yourself. Support for rail not age is the crux of the 'out of touch' controversy.
on May 13,2012 | 01:53PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
It won't go anywhere if you don't build it. You can always extend it to U.S. and Waikiki, and those routes are already in the EIS. But, unless you build the main part of the line you have nothing to connect it to.
on May 13,2012 | 09:41AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Like BluesBreaker, Keith_Rollman is another outsider just heckling and interrupting our discussion about the pros and cons of rail in Oahu.
on May 13,2012 | 02:07PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Actually my comment is relevant and yours is not.
on May 13,2012 | 04:38PM
hybrid1 wrote:
And your comment is?
on May 13,2012 | 04:54PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Relevant? How relevant to pros and cons?
on May 13,2012 | 05:09PM
hybrid1 wrote:
KR The main part of the line is from Kalihi to UH.
on May 13,2012 | 04:53PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Goes by UH West, Leeward Community College,UH, Honolulu Community college. Hawaii Pacific and numerous schools. Can't go UH because that Kobayashis district! She would never have it.
on May 13,2012 | 01:20PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Really?
on May 13,2012 | 02:07PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Rail will cost another $10 Billion to fo to Waikiki and UH.
on May 13,2012 | 04:55PM
ammb3 wrote:
Honolulu will be bankrupt before that happens.
on May 13,2012 | 10:20PM
ammb3 wrote:
UH is only in session about 150 days out of 365...the trains will be basically empty when UH is not in session
on May 14,2012 | 02:05AM
LongView wrote:
It's laughable to read comments, below, that accuse PRP with creating a red herring to distract attention away from rail. The biggest failure of 2012's campaign so far is Ben Cayetano's refusal to lay out his bus rapid transit plan. If any cynical politics-as-usual is at play in this election, it's in the Cayetano Camp.
on May 13,2012 | 07:28AM
PCWarrior wrote:
Well bro we'll have a vote soon and we'll see whose postition is laughable. This Be nice website, like all the rest of the pro-rail nonsense, is pure unadulterated BS - Lee knows it, and she's written about it here.
on May 13,2012 | 07:35AM
LongView wrote:
Lemme guess: you don't have to fight traffic congestion in a commute in from west Oahu and back home at night, do you?
on May 13,2012 | 07:38AM
cojef wrote:
It's not about having the incovenience of driving in very congested traffic that theis at issue. It is about whether the cost justifies the returns. Spend, spend morass, that encumbers the future generation is most dear to the hearts of the anti-rail group, along with the aging infra-structure repairs, such as sewage treatment problems, and roadway potholes that must considered, before a luxuary as rail can even be considered.
on May 13,2012 | 08:29AM
wiliki wrote:
Lee Cataluna should be ashamed for not standing up to blatant ageism. Looks like she can't even recognize it.
on May 13,2012 | 09:07AM
hybrid1 wrote:
..Traffic free for $6 Billion and still stops 21 times before reaching Honolulu in 15 years is a RECKLESS Alternative. It is as reckless as suggesting that the city provide 1,000 helicopters for Leeward Oahu commuters to downtown.. .......A superior alternative is putting 200 new express buses for $40 million: to travel non-stop on the zipper lanes; to carry triple the number of seated commuters than rail standees from Leeward Oahu; to provide door to door service; can be implemented IMMEDIATELY and would reach downtown Honolulu faster than the reckless $6 billion cattle cars which won't happen for another 15 years.
on May 13,2012 | 09:17AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Wiliki, you are not only out of touch yourself but deliberately lying with your blog about "ageism".
on May 13,2012 | 02:13PM
hybrid1 wrote:
rsgea wrote in another forum: I'd rather "sit in traffic"on an Express Bus for 50 minutes than STAND ON A CATTLE-CAR for 45-minutes, squeezed up against strangers. ............ And "most people" who need to commute from West Oahu will not use Rail if they built it. At most, you'd get 6% of commuters using Rail, if the national statistics kept all the way back to 1980 are any indication of what one can expect in public transit use..Go to the U.S. Census Reports on commuting in America, for 1980 1990, 2000, and 2010.. It shows that the percentage of commuters using public transit dropped every decade, to a point where it's below 6%. The modern lifestyles of U.S. workers is such that cars are the best way for 94% of them to serve their transportation needs. People have to drop-off/pick-up their children, do some shopping, go to meetings, etc. before, during, or after work. They can't possibly keep up with all those needs using a train that only goes up and down a very narrow rail corridor. And can you imagine carrying your groceries, laundry, etc. on crowded train, STANDING UP?
on May 13,2012 | 09:15AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
I have to fight traffic every morning but I'm against this particular rail system for all the reasons that anti railers mention. City should have done this RIGHT with transparency. Public buyin is critical when you're talking about the biggest project in city history and the city (Mufi and Peter) did a pitiful job.
on May 13,2012 | 09:42AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Well said. I'd rather continue to leave home a little earlier to avoid the traffic than watch my property tax triple. It's pricey enough to get by now, any more and many won't be able to afford it.
on May 13,2012 | 10:00AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Those who drive and do not take the bus or will not take the train, rail won't won't mean anything to them. But those who take the bus express to commute, rail will not only be costly for them (fares will double) but also would be inconvenient and would cause them to lose lots of travel time being forced to taking the train. For with rail all bus express runs will vanish completely.
on May 13,2012 | 11:37AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Lemme guess: you do not live in Oahu that is why you have not the faintest idea about the Zipper nor know about the State's Contra-Flow project which is you mouth this garbage about "you don't have to fight traffic congestion in a commute in from West Oahu and back home at night do you"?
on May 13,2012 | 11:32AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Lemme guess. You don't live in Oahu, LongView such that you have little if no idea at all about the Zipper and soon about the Contra-Flow, do you.
on May 13,2012 | 02:12PM
groinksan wrote:
It's your damn fault to be moving to West Oahu in the first place. It takes me only 20 minutes to get from Pearl City to Fort Shafter. I chose where I live AND where I work. For my FEDERAL and STATE tax dollars to be placed on a project that benefits just a few hundred thousand people - That is typical progressive Obama thinking. You knew what you were getting into when you moved out there. SUFFER like any other American, and do something about it on your own, instead of bringing the rest of us tax payers in to pay for YOUR mistake.
on May 14,2012 | 12:17AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Ben publicly supports the BRT recommended by Parsons:................................ Quote from Parsons Brinckerhoff matches voters sentiments:....... The quote below from the 2003 Final EIS for the Bus/Rapid Transit program clearly show that the thousands of O'ahu residents that Parsons Brinckerhoff and the City interviewed did not want a heavy rail (rapid transit) line because it was unacceptably expensive, too intrusive on the visual environment, and divisive of communities. This Final EIS for BRT was signed off by the City and the FTA. .................. “The concerns that led to the rejection of the most recently proposed elevated rapid transit system were primarily two: (1) its high cost and (2) its physical and visual impacts ...........… Public input received in hundreds of Vision Team and O‘ahu Trans 2K meetings and workshops attended by thousands of O‘ahu residents revealed widespread agreement that while an elevated transit system might serve goals of improving in-town mobility and strengthening connections between communities, such a system would not foster livable communities.................. The predominant sentiment among thousands of participants was that a grade-separated transit system would be unacceptably: (1) intrusive on the visual environment; (2) divisive of communities; and (3) too expensive................ These shortcomings were judged by public participants to outweigh the recognized benefits of a grade-separated system, i.e. high speed and capacity, increased reliability and reduced negative impact on the surface road system.” ...................Source: Final EIS for the BRT Project, FTA and City, July 2003. p. 2-57.
on May 13,2012 | 09:12AM
Kuniarr wrote:
It is laughable to see how LongView has nothing to say except thinking that Ben Cayetano no plan when Cayetano espoused a BRT system. A BRT system is by itself is a plan unless you do not know nor have any idea what a BRT system is all about. Much the same as when Obama espoused a universal health care system and Mufi espoused a rail system.
on May 13,2012 | 11:29AM
Kuniarr wrote:
LongView is another outsider just heckling and intruding the pros and cons of our discussion on rail in this forum.
on May 13,2012 | 02:08PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Interview with Hawaii Filipino Chronicle:........... Why is this the best option for the City? Answer: My proposal is a system that uses Bus Rapid Transit like Mayor Harris proposed except that I’d make some changes. Most people agreed that Harris ’proposal was fine coming in from Kapolei on the freeway. Where it met some opposition was when they decided to run the bus line down Kapiolani Boulevard. It was to be a dedicated bus lane, which faced opposition. We’ll revisit the system and look at alternatives. The beauty of a bus system is that it has the flexibility to change. So we’ll look at running it down King Street or Beretania Street. We may have to elevate it in certain areas but it’ll run on the freeway, so we won’t have to create a new elevated structure. ( Note; The BRT would cost less than 100 million, will eliminate the H-1 major bottlenecks and carry 22,000 pax per peak hour compared with only 4,000standees pax per hour on the $6 Billion Rail which will worsen the H-1 bottlenecks. Rail will take 15 years while the BRT can be done inside of one year on mostly existing zipper lanes and streets. How is that for a solution?)
on May 13,2012 | 04:56PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Ben's solution: Interview with Hawaii Filipino Chronicle:........... Why is this the best option for the City? Answer: My proposal is a system that uses Bus Rapid Transit like Mayor Harris proposed except that I’d make some changes. Most people agreed that Harris ’proposal was fine coming in from Kapolei on the freeway. Where it met some opposition was when they decided to run the bus line down Kapiolani Boulevard. It was to be a dedicated bus lane, which faced opposition. We’ll revisit the system and look at alternatives. The beauty of a bus system is that it has the flexibility to change. So we’ll look at running it down King Street or Beretania Street. We may have to elevate it in certain areas but it’ll run on the freeway, so we won’t have to create a new elevated structure. ( Note; The BRT would cost less than 100 millioon, will eliminate the H-1 major bottlenecks and carry 22,000 pax per peak hour compared with only 4,000standees pax per hour on the $6 Billion Rail which will worsen the H-1 bottlenecks. Rail will take 15 years while the BRT can be done inside of one year on mostly existingzipper lanes and streets. How is that for a solution?)
on May 13,2012 | 08:48AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
He's been "revisiting" the system for a long time now. He told Civil Beat he's reveal his plan by mid April...that's come and gone. I don't think he can see this Harris BRT plan to the anti-rail zealots Slater and Prevedorous. Remember they were anti-BRT zealots too...it would look a little fish if they now bless the plan they fought tooth and nail a little while ago.
on May 13,2012 | 04:45PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Slater and Panos totally supports the BRT... See honolulutraffic.com.
on May 13,2012 | 04:59PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
And ten years ago they said Cayetano was a crook, and BRT was a "fiasco." Somebody performed a mega flip flop.
on May 13,2012 | 05:47PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Just BS from Keith_Rollman who uses his own personal version of the legal term "escheat".
on May 13,2012 | 10:20PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Nothing more than just more BS from a heckler making things up.
on May 13,2012 | 05:11PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Just keep telling yourself that.
on May 13,2012 | 05:48PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Of course you make things up based upon your own version of the campaign spending rules where the word "escheat" is involved.
on May 13,2012 | 07:29PM
hilocal wrote:
BluesBreaker, do you or someone close to you stand to benefit financially if rail is built?
on May 13,2012 | 09:29AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Mayor Peter Carlisle says he'd build the $5.27 billion Oahu rail project even if $1.55 billion in federal funding falls through, using additional local resources if necessary. This has clearly been the policy in the push to start heavy construction this month without a final federal commitment, but nobody told the public so until Carlisle's spokes¬woman was asked for a direct statement of his intentions. On whether he'd press ahead without federal funds, press secretary Louise Kim McCoy said, "Yes, because after decades of planning, there is no viable alternative to address Oahu's traffic congestion that will only get worse without rail." But she said the train might not extend all the way from East Kapolei to Ala Moana Center.
on May 13,2012 | 05:12PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Hate to rain on your parade but even the city and FTA acknowledges that rail will NOT solve traffic problems coming from the west side. It's also interesting to note that neither Caldwell nor Carlisle put Cayetano to the task of asking what his alternatives are. I'm sure Ben will be more than up to the task.
on May 13,2012 | 09:39AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Interview with Hawaii Filipino Chronicle:........... Why is this the best option for the City? Answer: My proposal is a system that uses Bus Rapid Transit like Mayor Harris proposed except that I’d make some changes. Most people agreed that Harris ’proposal was fine coming in from Kapolei on the freeway. Where it met some opposition was when they decided to run the bus line down Kapiolani Boulevard. It was to be a dedicated bus lane, which faced opposition. We’ll revisit the system and look at alternatives. The beauty of a bus system is that it has the flexibility to change. So we’ll look at running it down King Street or Beretania Street. We may have to elevate it in certain areas but it’ll run on the freeway, so we won’t have to create a new elevated structure. ( Note; The BRT would cost less than 100 million, will eliminate the H-1 major bottlenecks and carry 22,000 pax per peak hour compared with only 4,000standees pax per hour on the $6 Billion Rail which will worsen the H-1 bottlenecks. Rail will take 15 years while the BRT can be done inside of one year on mostly existing zipper lanes and streets. How is that for a solution?)
on May 13,2012 | 05:10PM
wondermn1 wrote:
The jobs mentioned above is Union Welfare and the RAIL will be a useless addition if built. I notice someone has taken my Ben Cayetano for Mayor signs down in Waipahu so its going to get more and more nasty on the Pro-rail side. They must be really worried that their pile of money is going to evaporate if the Ujnion thugs and contractors don't even fight fair. I never thought I would see this type of activity in Hawaii. The first experience was at the Kapolei Hale information session (February 28th 2012) when the Union thugs and Myeda Timpson ( First Hawaiian Bank of Europe's Vice pres) harrassing attendees and creating a riot like atmosphere yelling LETS SHOW THEM A HARD TIME. Its going to be a long nasty election if we don't get Mayor Ben the proper number of votes in August. Go Mayor Ben Go
on May 13,2012 | 09:40AM
ammb3 wrote:
Don't forget she was also shouting on a megaphone, "______ (Persons name) , F**K YOU!" and children were a few feet from her! Disgraceful! Shameful! No CLASS!
on May 13,2012 | 10:26PM
ammb3 wrote:
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7M_r6_PmtA CHECK IT OUT! ! !
on May 13,2012 | 10:51PM
ammb3 wrote:
Maeda Timson was also shouting, "H*ole go home!" at that event. THEN when they found out that numerous mainland workers will work on our rail system, she did the typical union FLIP-FLOP and stated that she was HAPPY to have the mainland workers here to teach our local workers how to lay rail. It's such bull, mainland union workers will NOT be able to 'teach' our local union workers how to lay rail.
on May 13,2012 | 10:50PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Completely false and wrong, BluesBreaker. False and wrong. The logic that a rail system is more efficient than a bus system to justify rail looks good except it is all absolutely false and wrong. That is because Rail plus Bus is extremely much more expensive than Bus alone. The logic that rail "reliably gets people to and from work, school and other activitiers" is completely is not only absolutely false and wrong but also is a blatant attempt to make grandiose claim for rail for what it is not because trains only runs and only runs on a fixed single route and only good for one and only one purpose: transport people on that single route. Trains do not bring anyone to work nor to school. Buses do. It appears to me that BluesBreaker does not live in Oahu which is why all his blogs comes from what he only imagines and only imagines is the situation here in Oahu.
on May 13,2012 | 11:22AM
Kuniarr wrote:
BluesBreaker is simply an outsider spreading false and wrong information about the situation here in Oahu based upon the figment of his very creative imagination.
on May 13,2012 | 02:03PM
groinksan wrote:
Oh come on! Talking points alert! "jobs is a benefit"... Let's analyze this, shall we? According to HART, they're projecting at most 2,000 jobs to be created. Current numbers is 508 - including 243 jobs. Even at 2,000 jobs, we're talking about $1.9 million dollars it will cost to generate EACH JOB! Assuming each job will be under $100,000/year, comparing $1.9m to $100K - Yeah, that's job creation alright, but at the expense of the tax payers NATIONWIDE! This is Obama math - create jobs at the expense of millions of dollars per job created. Ben DOES offer a solution - better to leave things as-is than to chunk billions into something that, according to the State and consultants won't even fix the traffic problem. Construction-related jobs is nothing more than a progressive AFL/CIO way of turning virtually every job in the country under the control of the government and unions. You, BlueBreaker are nothing but a progressive bot who don't even know what you're talking about, other to repeat what your union is feeding you. Enjoy your collective bargaining job!
on May 14,2012 | 12:09AM
soshaljustic wrote:
Correct DPK! We have buses! All that wish to take public trans can, leave the car, hop a bus, ease into town. NO ONE DOES and that is why the BOTTLE NECK occurs now. Tis going to get worse so the FEDs tell us, WITH rail. But, Rail will cost us more for a bottleneck, but we get an eyesore too! OH GOODY! Out of touch? No! The man has Neuropathy!
on May 13,2012 | 12:01PM
hybrid1 wrote:
.................. As an interim measure to eliminate the bottlenecks at the H-1 merges, the mayor could easily put 150 express buses (city has 540 buses) overnight to serve 15 bus temporary bus transit centers in West/Central Oahu (Only 4 centers exist in West/Central Oahu). The high number of buses would provide reliable 6 minute departure times for non-stop travel to downtown and would travel from each transit centers via the HOV2/Zipper lanes on H-1/H-2 and Nimitz Hwy to Alakawa St to Dillingham to the Hotel Street Bus mall. Hotel St should be converted to 2 lane reversible during peak hour to allow the bus right land for bus stops and the left lane for pass through lane (15 bus stops can fit along the 1/2 mile Hotel St). The current vehicle loads on the highways, combined with the bus pax capacity whice will remove a high number of vehicles from H-1 , will easily allow the buses to move rapidly along the express bus route. ...........The buses would turn around at the Alapai Transit Center and return to West Oahu transit centers for another commute cycle. Express buses would operate only during the peak 3 hours am and 3 hours pm.........The PM travel would reverse the route. Note that the State is planning to provide a westbound P.M. H-1 Zipper Lane and a pm Zipper lane on Nimitz. ..................For long Range, the year 2030 vehicle overload will increase greatly and will require two Bypasses, Nimitz and Kam at a cost of $200 million to the Oahu taxpayer
on May 13,2012 | 05:14PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
NO to cayetaNO. Raided hurricane fund ,raided ers funds, to balance his budget. Lost the governors seat to a republican.
on May 13,2012 | 09:45PM
groinksan wrote:
Cayetano NEVER touched the hurricane fund. It was untouched even throughout Linda Lingle's term. It is Abercrombie who tapped into the fund. Research, please...
on May 14,2012 | 12:19AM
daddyninong wrote:
Very typical response of someone who is losing an argument by lacking supporting facts: Using distraction (Hurricaine funds? Really, Nanakuli Boss?) and name calling (CayetaNO? I thought you wanted to be respectful?). You would be much more credible if you could have addressed Hybrid1's argument.
on May 14,2012 | 05:22AM
Charliegrunt wrote:
Agreed!
on May 13,2012 | 02:37PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Thanks for agreeing charliegrunt.
on May 13,2012 | 09:46PM
LukeKaakau wrote:
Enjoy this piece Lee..............Keep up the great work! Watch and lets see if these folk put YOU on their website simply because you had the gall to disagree with them as well........and call um out on it too!!
on May 13,2012 | 03:34AM
hawaiinui wrote:
It wouldn't be a surprise. Anyone dare interfere with their plans becomes a potential target. One would have to wait and see if they dare take on this young lady....any bets?
on May 13,2012 | 05:40AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
I'm not sure it was "needed," because Dave Shapiro wrote it last week.
on May 13,2012 | 07:00AM
ammb3 wrote:
This piece by Lee was certainly 'needed', unlike many vitriolic comments made by you that are, 'not needed'. this piece points out a different angle on the topic that will undoubtedly rise again...distractions from the various pro-rail entities from the real issues of the mayoral race.
on May 13,2012 | 07:26AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
How about real issue like what Ben proposes to do instead of rail if he wins?
on May 13,2012 | 09:26AM
Kuniarr wrote:
How about you buzz off heckler and stop muddying our discussion on rail.
on May 13,2012 | 05:16PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
You might not grasp this, Kuniarr, but I'm not ready to cede my constitutional right to free speech to an anonymous blog troll. I think Cayetano's plan or lack thereof for an alternative to rail is extremely relevant to this discussion, where as your constant insults are not.
on May 13,2012 | 05:51PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Of course you have a constitutional right to make a fool of your self blogging in this forum about rail showing your ignorance of what the situation is here in Oahu. And making a fool of yourself having your very own definition of "escheat" regarding the campaign contributions to Ben Cayetano. The fact is that Mazie Hirono is in the same boat as Ben Cayetano when it comes to the need to escheat (not return nor pay back) excess (not illegal) campaign contributions. And "escheat" in no manner even comes close to "cheat" or the "need to return" or the "need to pay back".
on May 13,2012 | 07:36PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Interview with Hawaii Filipino Chronicle:........... Why is this the best option for the City? Answer: My proposal is a system that uses Bus Rapid Transit like Mayor Harris proposed except that I’d make some changes. Most people agreed that Harris ’proposal was fine coming in from Kapolei on the freeway. Where it met some opposition was when they decided to run the bus line down Kapiolani Boulevard. It was to be a dedicated bus lane, which faced opposition. We’ll revisit the system and look at alternatives. The beauty of a bus system is that it has the flexibility to change. So we’ll look at running it down King Street or Beretania Street. We may have to elevate it in certain areas but it’ll run on the freeway, so we won’t have to create a new elevated structure. ( Note; The BRT would cost less than 100 million, will eliminate the H-1 major bottlenecks and carry 22,000 pax per peak hour compared with only 4,000standees pax per hour on the $6 Billion Rail which will worsen the H-1 bottlenecks. Rail will take 15 years while the BRT can be done inside of one year on mostly existing zipper lanes and streets. How is that for a solution?)
on May 13,2012 | 05:16PM
ammb3 wrote:
Thank you for posting. That should keep Rollman quiet for 2 seconds. He'll start spouting off before he finishes reading your post. LOL.
on May 13,2012 | 10:54PM
KKawa wrote:
Lee's opinion was very much "needed." We should be given the opportunity to weigh the issues for and against rail without intimidation from our government. Dan Inouye is the third most powerful man in the federal government. He IS the government. What he is doing meets the definition of tyranny: "an oppressive power exerted by government." People need to stand up and ask the Senator to stay out of our elections and to stop the intimidation and oppression he sends down on those who "dare", as Lee put it, disagree with him. As Dante said: The hottest rungs in hell are reserved for those who, at great times of crisis, maintain their neutrality. I hope that in the months to come Lee keeps expressing herself. Others who have the inner strength to step forward need to do so, as well.
on May 13,2012 | 08:34AM
wiliki wrote:
Lee needs to educate herself about ageism.
on May 13,2012 | 09:08AM
ammb3 wrote:
Why do you keep bringing up moot points?
on May 13,2012 | 09:28AM
wiliki wrote:
Why should Cataluna's cluelessness be moot?
on May 13,2012 | 01:12PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Really, wiliki. You yourself are clueless.
on May 13,2012 | 02:17PM
hilocal wrote:
wiliki, ageism is irrelevant here.
on May 13,2012 | 09:42AM
wondermn1 wrote:
wiliki and Keith_Rolly need to polish their steel wheel as it is rusting
on May 13,2012 | 09:44AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
This trolling line wore out two weeks ago.
on May 13,2012 | 04:48PM
Kuniarr wrote:
wiliki, you need to educate your ownself to tell the truth and not deliberately lie and be out of touch yourself.
on May 13,2012 | 02:16PM
hybrid1 wrote:
The drooling Senator needs to resign, TODAY!
on May 13,2012 | 05:17PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Former Gov. Benjamin Cayetano said the city's Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation Board of Directors, who were appointed to oversee the construction and maintenance of the city's $5.3 billion planned 20-mile elevated steel on steel rail system, "had better get a lawyer if he is elected mayor" this fall, "because he will go after them for malfeasance."............ HART's 10-member volunteer board is approving contract awards for more money than they've collected from city taxpayers.
on May 13,2012 | 05:15PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Only Ben Cayetano would view a website asking him to "be nice," as a personal smear. At least you can't argue that he isn't self-aware.
on May 13,2012 | 06:59AM
LongView wrote:
So self-aware that he's aware that little nugget of an idea somebody foisted off on him -- BRT -- was a bust once and would be again. So he says nothing about it in this campaign. You'd think a social commentator like Lee would take notice.
on May 13,2012 | 07:34AM
wiliki wrote:
CayetaNO has always name-called. You'd think that a little social commentation like reminding him of this is innocent. But NO he comes back with "smear".
on May 13,2012 | 09:11AM
hilocal wrote:
wiliki, Cayetano has usually been blunt and outspoken, calling it as he sees it, unlike most politicians.
on May 13,2012 | 09:47AM
wiliki wrote:
I agree.... CayetaNO is just being a bigot here. He really believes that smear.
on May 13,2012 | 01:11PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Gov. Benjamin Cayetano said the city's Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation Board of Directors, who were appointed to oversee the construction and maintenance of the city's $5.3 billion planned 20-mile elevated steel on steel rail system, "had better get a lawyer if he is elected mayor" this fall, "because he will go after them for malfeasance." HART's 10-member volunteer board is approving contract awards for more money than they've collected from city taxpayers.
on May 13,2012 | 05:25PM
ammb3 wrote:
wiliki, your people started it, so start believing it!
on May 13,2012 | 10:55PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Not true.
on May 13,2012 | 11:39AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Baloney.
on May 13,2012 | 02:18PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Ben: • Pushed through one of the biggest state personal income tax reductions in the nation at the time • Reduced the size and growth of state government to less than the inflation rate • Established the Hawai‘i Tourism Authority • Implemented civil service reform • Built a record number of public schools • Built a record number of homes for Native Hawaiian homesteaders • Developed the Hawai‘i Convention Center to boost tourism • Started the Hawai‘i State Art Museum • Began construction of the new John A. Burns School of Medicine and research center for the University of Hawai‘i • Kept his promise to make public education his highest priority by sparing schools from budget cuts at the expense of other state departments • Ordered the State Attorney General to investigate the Bishop Estate, an $11 billion trust fund set up for the benefit and education of Hawaiian children • When Hawaii’s economy rebounded in 1999, Ben promoted growth in new areas to further diversify the economy • Created the nation’s first state-funded after-school Plus (A )in 1989.
on May 13,2012 | 05:18PM
hybrid1 wrote:
, yes, Mayor Cayetano will add on to our award winning bus system that is all ready paid for and operating. It doesn't need an additional lane, the zipper lane is all ready in place and will work well for a BRT system. Also, buses will pick people up in their neighborhoods instead of having to drive or bus to the train station. And we won't have to wait 20 years for it to be built. the $6 Billion Rail cattle car is dead.
on May 13,2012 | 09:20AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Baloney.
on May 13,2012 | 11:38AM
Kuniarr wrote:
False and wrong from one who seems to relish being a heckler in this forum.
on May 13,2012 | 02:18PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
That would be your job.
on May 13,2012 | 04:49PM
Kuniarr wrote:
LOL
on May 13,2012 | 10:23PM
allie wrote:
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on May 13,2012 | 08:45AM
wiliki wrote:
Disagree. As another elderly person, no one likes to be called "out of touch" simply because of their age. That's blatant ageism.
on May 13,2012 | 09:12AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
If you read what Ben actually said, you'll see that's there's nothing there about Senator Inouye's age, and the comment could apply to a 30 year old who hasn't lived in Hawaii for decades and who typically deals with national and international issues.

Feigning outrage and making charges of "ageism" against a man of Ben's age is weak and desperate.
on May 13,2012 | 09:28AM
Gumbo wrote:
Wiliki...You are out of touch with your childish comments. Nothing you say makes a lick of sense.
on May 13,2012 | 11:08AM
wiliki wrote:
Nope.... it's pretty clear that Inouye is being smeared as being too old in this forum. Ben's name calling is quite obvious.
on May 13,2012 | 01:10PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Not true. You are lying.
on May 13,2012 | 02:20PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Actually you are, as usual: Slick1: It's about time someone puts Inouye in his place. Who does he think he is? I'm glad Cayetano speaks up. He's the mayor for me. False: Sorry Senator Inouye, you don't look like us anymore. You don't talk like us anymore. You don't sound like us anymore. You don't know us anymore. You live over there and you act like over there. Just not locally connected anymore. OB1NONO_ME: Ben tells the truth - which may be offensive to snake oil salesman. Mistash: Danny (aka Let's Go Vegas), your skills are better suited to watching TV with the volume on high. Please pass him the Pringles and Soda Pop. Maneki_Neko: I can't wait for the next "Imua Rail" TV commercial that has Dan riding the rails, gumming his okazu and telling us it's good for our future. Loquaciousone: The fact that grandpa backs lazy hazy mazie is a perfect example that grandpa needs to go to bed. Wadat: Oh boy these pro railers are WACKO. If uncle Dan can't take a little tough talk then WTF is he doing as a politician ???
on May 13,2012 | 04:55PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Realy?
on May 13,2012 | 10:27PM
Kuniarr wrote:
False and wrong.
on May 13,2012 | 11:39AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Baloney. Lying won't do you any good, wiliki.
on May 13,2012 | 02:19PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Here's one from earlier today for Kuniarr to chew on...sounds kind of ageist and insulting to me-- hybrid1 wrote: CAyetano is 72, a youngster compared to the senile, drooling senator who is 88 years old and should resign. So, that makes you the liar again!
on May 13,2012 | 06:03PM
Kuniarr wrote:
A heckler simply can not escape being branded a heckler. That's all figments of your imagination, Keith_Rollman that you are trying to masquerade as fact,.
on May 13,2012 | 07:43PM
hybrid1 wrote:
Inouye is a drooling, out of touch 88 year old who should be put in a care home...5 years ago.
on May 13,2012 | 05:27PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Yeah, he once had a reporter fired from PBN for reporting on his corruption...no, wait that was BEN.
on May 13,2012 | 04:50PM
rosa wrote:
I am glad you wrote this needed article. It really brings thngs into perspective. Thank you Lee!
on May 13,2012 | 04:25AM
false wrote:
Exactly right. But nothing is truer than the last two paragraphs:

"None of this is really about being nice or showing respect or Ben going rogue by daring to disagree with The Man. It's about money to be made from rail and the threat Cayetano's candidacy poses to the rail project.

"The real disrespect is to Oahu residents, who should be trusted to weigh the issues for and against rail rather than talked-down-to with phony schoolyard outrage."
on May 13,2012 | 04:54AM
false wrote:
The point is that Pacific Resources Partnership (and Senator Inouye) is using the red herring tactic. They are throwing out this decoy issue (i.e. Is Ben disrespecting Dan) to distract attention from the true issues: DO WE NEED RAIL? CAN WE AFFORD IT? CAN WE MAINTAIN IT?

It is quite obvious that more and more of Honolulu residents are beginning to see that the answers to all three of these questions is "NO". At least three independent polls taken in the first quarter of 2012 show that the majority of likely Honolulu voters (53% to 55%) want the Rail project stopped. Only about 33% of those polled still support Rail.

And, Pacific Resources Partnership, Senator Inouye, and the pro-rail faction (i.e. First Hawaiian Bank, Parsons Brinckerhoff, Kiewitt, Ansaldo, Hawaiian Electric, etc.) know very well that the percentages against Rail are growing as more and more as the public starts focusing on the facts.

And that is why this pro-rail faction is desperately trying to distract, decoy, and divert the public's attention away from the facts about this Rail project, by such diversionary tactics as Senator Inouye's shibai about being deeply offended, by this "BeNiceBen" website, and the "Move Forward Oahu" pep rally for Rail by companies that will make hundreds of $millions if not $billions from Rail.


on May 13,2012 | 05:33AM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
...and that's probably why that imuarail commercial constantly airs on TV. They are trying to convince us we need rail.Take it off the air already and stop insulting our intelligence!
on May 13,2012 | 07:03AM
wiliki wrote:
You just don't like the truth. Rail is the only viable solution for our future traffic congestion.
on May 13,2012 | 09:13AM
pakeheat wrote:
wilik, rail is not a solution, you keep bringing out this lie all the time.
on May 13,2012 | 02:00PM
Kuniarr wrote:
You do not like the truth. Rail is not and never was the only viable solution to traffic congestion be it now, the past or the future. Making rail for what it is not is just the task of those hired to do what they are doing in this forum like you, wiliki.
on May 13,2012 | 02:21PM
hybrid1 wrote:
The imuarail commercial shows the girl using a computer seated in a bus. FACT: The same girl will be STANDING and crushed like sardines on the $ 6 Billion rail cattle cars.....Very misleading ad by the city using taxpayers money. Ben should point this out to Carlisle and Caldwell in the next debate.
on May 13,2012 | 09:25AM
wiliki wrote:
He can't admit that ridership will be so high that people will be crowded into cars. That means rail is a success.
on May 13,2012 | 01:08PM
soshaljustic wrote:
lol ;o) same people that R crowding the buses riding the zipper lane? If so the mechanical trolley will be a total waste and mar the landscape as predicted, for few riders. ho hum tweedle dee, another 5 billion down the toi toi and we can always print more?
on May 13,2012 | 01:20PM
pakeheat wrote:
crowded for the first couple of trains in the morning and late afternoon, but during the rest of the hours, you can play chase master, throw footballs, and play hide and seek with the rest of you're proponents, LOL
on May 13,2012 | 02:03PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Mouthing more propaganda lies.
on May 13,2012 | 02:22PM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
No matter what, there will still be traffic congestion.
on May 13,2012 | 05:07PM
hybrid1 wrote:
The $6 Billion rail will still carry only 4,000 standing commuters compared with 22,000 seated commuters on 300 BRT buses on the existing zipper at zero additional cost. The BRT will eliminate the H-1 bottlenecks while the rail cattle cars will worsen the H-1 bottlenecks by over 700 percent.
on May 13,2012 | 05:31PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Those against rail aren't necessarily FOR Ben. Don't count on 100% conversion of anti-railers to become Ben supporters. Why, because electing him is a far worse disaster than rail, and people who endured his stint as governor know it.
on May 13,2012 | 09:33AM
hilocal wrote:
Keith_Rollman, since you seem to be an insider, be specific. It would be nice to hear facts in support of opinion.
on May 13,2012 | 09:59AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
I am actually considered by "insiders" to be and "outsider." However I try to pay attention to what going on and deal with facts. It is a fact that his new allies in the anti-rail movement loudly ridiculed Ben as corrupt when he was governor. The "alliance" is both inappropriate and unstable and will fall apart when the two factions: Ben's old boys, and Slater's libertarians realize they actually hate each other.
on May 13,2012 | 10:27AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Looking at all your comment, you are a just mere heckler in this forum website, Keith_Rollman.
on May 13,2012 | 11:42AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Personal attack trolling.
on May 13,2012 | 05:11PM
Kuniarr wrote:
And "trolling" is not a "personal attack"?
on May 13,2012 | 07:48PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Insiders consider you irrelevant, Keith. Hate to break that news but BANG!!! I just dropped the truth on you.
on May 13,2012 | 02:52PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Personal attack trolling.
on May 13,2012 | 05:11PM
saveparadise wrote:
I am glad you are admitting that rail would be a disaster.
on May 13,2012 | 06:10PM
hilocal wrote:
On point, false.
on May 13,2012 | 09:55AM
hilocal wrote:
Exactly right, false and Lee Cataluna.
on May 13,2012 | 09:55AM
wondermn1 wrote:
Go Ben Go , We got your back, cause you can bet its going to get worse
on May 13,2012 | 05:08AM
hawaiinui wrote:
With shameful (let alone illegal) push polls purposefully aimed for the probable next Mayor (and the reelection of Councilman Berg) being an indicator of the desperate measures the Pacific Resource Partnership; the probability of an election going in the opposite direction of their intended plans seems to be on the horizon. People are simply disgusted with the status quo and want change...even if it means calling a spade a spade...in this case, though, calling the Senator "out of touch" and this rail project being a "gimme gimme" for political insiders and shameless politicans in City Hall.
on May 13,2012 | 05:37AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
No one has produced that "illegal push polls" exist at all. Ben could just be conveniently charging that a regular poll is "smearing" him. Does anyone care about facts around here?
on May 13,2012 | 06:52AM
LongView wrote:
Obviously not.
on May 13,2012 | 07:35AM
PCWarrior wrote:
Only you Keith. Only you.
on May 13,2012 | 07:37AM
ammb3 wrote:
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/with-high-stakes-in-this-years-election-push-polls-target-cayetano-berg-both-candidates-say-the-orchestrated-smear-is-coming-from-rail-backers/123 http://www.khon2.com/mostpopular/story/Be-Nice-website-aimed-at-Cayetano-mayor-candidate/6eWoNF9Njk2-QMVLleIL8A.cspx KITV:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47303866/ns/local_news-honolulu_hi/t/cayetano-stands-remarks-about-sen-inouye/ There are many other news organizations that wrote about this and even a few of my friends have gotten this push poll smear against Cayetano. Denial doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
on May 13,2012 | 07:46AM
Kuniarr wrote:
A heckler is just a heckler nothing more.
on May 13,2012 | 11:43AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
At least you are also aware of your role.
on May 13,2012 | 04:58PM
Kuniarr wrote:
A heckler is just a heckler no matter what kind of blog he posts in this website. It muddies the discussion when a heckler intrudes with blogs that is based on false and wrong information about the subject the heckler is blogging about. Like this "at least you are also aware of your role".
on May 13,2012 | 06:58PM
bender wrote:
It shouldn't take a newspaper writer to point out the fallacy of the Beniceben website and it's sponsors, the PRP. We all should recgognize it for what it is, a weak attempt to turn voters against Cayetano. Who will they target next?
on May 13,2012 | 05:44AM
PCWarrior wrote:
They'll target anyone and everyone. They are desperate to not lose money. They have their hand deep in our pocket and they don't want to take it out of there.
on May 13,2012 | 07:39AM
Changalang wrote:
Tell Ben to shoot for a 10 point spread in August to counter-act any "discrepancies" of the absentee voting system. That is the last best help that can be offered. Go Ben Go !
on May 13,2012 | 10:56AM
pakeheat wrote:
Guess who signed on the website, one of them is on this blog?
on May 13,2012 | 02:07PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Since only two people have enough balls to use their names, and we know it isn't Haugen, that would be me. I was happy to sign it.
on May 13,2012 | 04:59PM
pakeheat wrote:
Where was wiliki, NanakuliBoss, OldDiver, JoJo14, PakeLady, aiea7, LongView, BluesBreaker, and etc., did they sign?
on May 13,2012 | 05:12PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
I suspect they did, now see if you can match their real names with their screen names.
on May 13,2012 | 05:54PM
Kuniarr wrote:
This is the internet. Anyone can claim tp be "Keith_Rollman even if he /she is not.
on May 13,2012 | 07:51PM
koolau wrote:
i too greatly respect Senator Inouye, however his response to Governor Cayetano's comments was disappointing. A response such as "he's entitled to his opinion" or alike, would have better demonstrated the class that personifies him. Contrarily, the former Governor did not step out of character. We already know what to expect of him, something that's refreshing in Hawai'i politics.
on May 13,2012 | 05:45AM
palani wrote:
Silly website, yes, almost as bad as the legislature's attempt to criminalize "stink eye", or "disrespecting a legislator", this past session. As is often the case, those that complain the loudest are usually the worst offenders. Thank you, Lee, for holding a mirror up so they might see the ugly truth.
on May 13,2012 | 05:46AM
Masami wrote:
Wow! NO PRP COUNTERPOINT yet? Perhaps "they" don't read Lee's column as they think she's "not nice" also? It'll be interesting the "spin" that will inevitably come out regarding Lee's column and all the comments so far AGREEING WITH HER. Great column Lee!
on May 13,2012 | 06:27AM
juke wrote:
the truth will set you free you go lee
on May 13,2012 | 06:49AM
ammb3 wrote:
Unfortunately, this 'hit' is just the beginning. Pacific Tesource Partners, Move Oahu Forward, Imua Rail, Go Rail Go is raring to GO on their negative campaign against Cayetano, even resorting to negative push polls and blatent lies. I hope the reporters and the people of Oahu won't put up with it! Unfortunately as the primary election draws near, the smear will get worse. Dirty politics has NO place in Hawaii!!
on May 13,2012 | 07:10AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Do you have evidence that there was a "push poll" and that it had "blatant lies" in it? Or, are you just repeating what you were told by a manipulative politician or one of his mouthpieces?
on May 13,2012 | 06:00PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Evidence? LOL
on May 13,2012 | 10:30PM
ammb3 wrote:
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/with-high-stakes-in-this-years-election-push-polls-target-cayetano-berg-both-candidates-say-the-orchestrated-smear-is-coming-from-rail-backers/123 http://www.khon2.com/mostpopular/story/Be-Nice-website-aimed-at-Cayetano-mayor-candidate/6eWoNF9Njk2-QMVLleIL8A.cspx KITV: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47303866/ns/local_news-honolulu_hi/t/cayetano-stands-remarks-about-sen-inouye/ There are many other news organizations that wrote about this and even a few of my friends have gotten this push poll smear against Cayetano. Denial doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
on May 13,2012 | 10:59PM
Smiley7 wrote:
PRP's commercial is the signal to change stations. Makes me nauseated just like the HECO commercials with JM. How dare they insult our intelligence? The worst part is the use of locals to try and convince us. Now they are not even ashamed to use youngsters to try to influence us. Yeah, I believe that young girl rides the bus while her car is idling nearby. Change channels like I do or turn the tv off. We have choices yet they try their hardest to pull one over us and they have succeeded for over 50 years. Be fooled no longer and remember people who talk with forked tongues. Auwe!
on May 13,2012 | 07:13AM
Wazdat wrote:
well said. Please keep writing stories like this
on May 13,2012 | 07:24AM
aiea7 wrote:
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on May 13,2012 | 07:32AM
PCWarrior wrote:
Get a cup of coffee. Wake up bro. Nobody believes your drivel.
on May 13,2012 | 07:42AM
KING_CRABBE wrote:
Good job Lee. Keep on Trucking Governor Cayetano. Senator Inouye really needs to get a reality check, and when he goes to Mc Donalds, have him go the the one on Fort Street Mall, and really get a cross check of Hawii's people. Have him catch the Bus and let him see what we do in Hawaii every day, to get home. Have him take the Route that takes people to Waipahu, And Makaha. There will be the REAL reality check.
on May 13,2012 | 07:46AM
Kaumheimer wrote:
KING_CRABBE is correct. Kudos to Lee Cataluna for speaking the truth. Fact is the pro rail forces have more money than God to saturate the airwaves, write op eds and gin up phony "grass roots" campaigns such as this latest "Be Nice Ben" tripe. The Cayatano campaign does not have the resources of Pacific Resources. I would suspect that most of the letters to the editor and even a fair share of the respondents to articles such as this are either paid by the pro rail people or people have skin in the game. That stand to lose contracts. The are scared (and rightly so) that Cayetano is going to beat Carlisle or Caldwell--and he probably will. It's going to be an interesting couple of months. Watch out for more smears.
on May 13,2012 | 08:19AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
This whole sordid mess has already backfired on Pacific Resources and everybody sees it for the blatant political scheme that it is. It got its 15 minutes of attention and folks figgered Pacific Resources just made A. Dan comes out this looking petty and old and actually out of touch so the whole plan was just a big fail at trying to accuse Ben of something that wasn't rue.
on May 13,2012 | 08:13AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
"This whole sordid mess has already backfired on Pacific Resources" If you are referring to Pacific Resource Partners, I think it's extreme spin to say posting a website asking a politician to "be nice" qualifies as a "sordid mess." Take an anti-hysteria pill and try again tomorrow.
on May 13,2012 | 11:05AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
You're irrelevant to the discussion. Go post on Atomic Monkey. That's about your speed.
on May 13,2012 | 02:53PM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
You shouldn't be looking at Atomic Monkey, it's for adults.
on May 13,2012 | 05:56PM
Changalang wrote:
Didn't Mr. White of PRP lose to current Honolulu City Council Chair Ernie Martin in the last election cycle? Hmmmmm. The current power cabal dictating City gov't may be in for a shock in August. It is feasible to predict a surge in the poll numbers closing on the Primary date for Caldwell's benefit. If Carlisle wins another term, then no one in Honolulu should question the efficacy of the "partnership". I am shocked at how many people supposedly in the "partnership" will secretly confide to voting for Ben in August. Ben's debate performance and poll number consistency with projected trend lines speak volumes of which candidate is in sync with the pulse of the people. Ben will bring more local carpenter gigs then Rail; fixing all the stuff that got ignored for the last several years.
on May 13,2012 | 08:36AM
salome789 wrote:
Good article Lee. For those who want to know the alternative to the train, check out Panos' website from which I quote: "PROBLEM -- Severe Traffic Congestion Wastes Time and Fuel; Cripples Economy and Tourism SOLUTION -- Fix traffic lights, install six underpasses, PPP reversible expressway and express buses, Ewa Beach ferry; intelligent traffic management systems. (Google: University of Hawaii Congestion Study, UHCS)." These are only some of the solutions that can be implemented in less TIME and COST less than building a train that will tax Hawaii's residents forever!!! As for union jobs, this will also create LOCAL jobs and we don't need outside consultants with exorbitant salaries to tell us how. As for the developers, they will still get a "piece of the pie" and what's in it for our politicians? They'll figure it out....and then everyone can rest at ease.
on May 13,2012 | 08:47AM
aiea7 wrote:
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on May 13,2012 | 02:30PM
Kuniarr wrote:
If"?, aiea7? A blog based on an "if" statement is worthless.
on May 13,2012 | 04:31PM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
We try to teach students the right thing to do, but then you look all around at the politicians and they are so immature....
on May 13,2012 | 08:57AM
fka wrote:
Good job,Lee very insightful and down to the point. The last paragraph says it all: the real disrespect is to Oahu residents,who should be trusted to weigh the issues for and against the rail rather than talked-down-to with phony schoolyard outrage. AGREE!
on May 13,2012 | 08:58AM
wiliki wrote:
Funny... you'd think that Cataluna would be more sensitive to ageism-- the discrimination practiced by CayetaNO is attacking Inouye for being out of touch for his age.
on May 13,2012 | 09:04AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Cayetano responded to the senile senator's drooling comment that only WW III would stop rail which is a reckless, insane remark.
on May 13,2012 | 09:40AM
wiliki wrote:
Nope Inouye wont let any FTA budget go through that doesn't have fed money for Honolulu Rail. If CayetaNO can't figure out that's WWIII, then CayetaNO is out of touch. Looks like you can't figure that out too. You're out of touch. Need your senior diapers?
on May 13,2012 | 01:06PM
Kuniarr wrote:
You're the one out of touch, wiliki. Do you not know that today Republicans now control the house of representatives. And only has a 4 vote majority in the Senate?
on May 13,2012 | 04:39PM
wondermn1 wrote:
Good article Lee, thanks for your insight as its not abvious to some like wiliki, Blues, Aiea7 and others who have their hands in the till$$
on May 13,2012 | 09:52AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Baloney. Twisting facts to suit your bias is false and wrong, wiliki.
on May 13,2012 | 11:48AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Lee, this is one of your best piece. It says what many believe. PRP is a union hack and they're showing their dirty colors. Inouye is a big boy and can handle himself without a cheap mouthpiece like PRP.
on May 13,2012 | 09:29AM
tsushimama wrote:
Seems to be an anti-rail statement by Lee. For sure her right to do so but when she says it should be left in the hands of the voters - it was! The anti-rail people continue to re-argue the issue; also their right but it seems to me the train has left the staion already. If this were done when originally proposed more than 20 years ago we would have rail, it would not have cost any where near what it costs now. If we do not proceed, we will lose whatever chances we have for funding in the future. As to Inouye being out of touch! It is amazing to say that when he has used his influence both overtly and behind the scenes to get so many benefits for our city and state. His door has always been open as far as I can see and he has always been a gentleman in his comments about other politicians.
on May 13,2012 | 10:41AM
pakeheat wrote:
IRT tsushimama, nothing wrong with Lee anti-rail statement as you have stated but do you feel from the very beginning when it was started and handled by Mufi? All the shibai, dishonesty, deceptions, and false information and not to leave out, shoving down our throats is the way this rail was handled. Starting at 3 billion dollars suddenly rose to 5.3 and now it's 5.7, and we all know it's going to be higher than that figure, the route was also going through Salt Lake and suddenly after the voting they changed to the airport, and yet they did not even consider cheaper alternatives. I really don't care what happened 20 years ago, it's past. Let's look at the current picture, do you feel 5.7 billion dollars for this rail is justified? Traffic congestion will not get worse from what experts say, but it still will be there. WE have so many other infrastructure problems that needs to be taken care first before jumping into a lake of fire.
on May 13,2012 | 02:37PM
ammb3 wrote:
Thanks pakeheat. btw, all recent FTA projects have run 40% over, so that means our rail could cost us $7 BILLION ! !
on May 13,2012 | 11:02PM
ready2go wrote:
Lee is rith on! They're "ganging up" on Ben and anyone against fixed rail. These powerful unions and developers are threatening us and our futures. Who's going to ride this expensive, ugly, ineffective traiin? Construction workers will never ride them to go to work! Infact they don't even ride the buses today! The zip lanes are empty everyday.
on May 13,2012 | 10:48AM
enoughisenough wrote:
The "be nice" campaign is beyond silly. It makes Inouye, White and PRP look like crybabies or idiots. Either way, Cayetano and the other rail critics have got to be loving this.
on May 13,2012 | 11:47AM
mulletpond wrote:
I love this on going chaotic debate but Schwann's editorial cartoon in last Sunday's paper summed it all up. People in the office got a big kick out of it and can't stop chuckling.
on May 13,2012 | 12:18PM
25225fm wrote:
If rail will benefit the people so much, then why don't the railers advertise the train's path and which bus routes will be terminated to justify it? It's not fair for the bus rider to be dropped off at a train access point with no idea why he's there. The imua rail advertisement depicts a girl riding a virtually empty and wrong bus and guess what she does this every day!
on May 13,2012 | 01:36PM
pakeheat wrote:
Yeah one proponent claims she is on the bus two hours each way, what a joke, HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
on May 13,2012 | 05:19PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
The really good news is that all this fake outrage is helping Ben and moving voters in his direction. Nobody likes a crybaby. Even old out of touch crybabies.
on May 13,2012 | 02:56PM
Kuniarr wrote:
There are two things about how west side residents commute free of traffic congestion by bus express that proponents of rail needs to know: (1) Morning rush hour commute by bus express on Zipper and HOV lanes (2) H-1 Freeway PM Contraflow from the Keehi Interchange west to the Paiwa Interchange during afternoon rush-hour, one of the Congestion Program projects of the State in its Highways Modernization Plan.
on May 13,2012 | 04:51PM
Leinanij wrote:
Another great provocative piece Lee. Hope you have a great Mother's Day!
on May 13,2012 | 05:15PM
saveparadise wrote:
Gotta love Lee Cataluna. The pro railers are the most arrogant bunch of bloggers I have seen in the editorials in years.
on May 13,2012 | 06:06PM
ammb3 wrote:
arrogant and truly uninformed of the FACTS.
on May 13,2012 | 11:03PM
Leinanij wrote:
Prorailers, John White, and Pacific Resource Partnership are the most duplicitous bunch of bloggers, acting like high school gossips and bullies.
on May 14,2012 | 08:31AM
OB1NONO_ME wrote:
A choice between Carliar, Cadwell and Cayetano. John White of PRP must think that voting for anyone else other than Cadwell is being disrespectful to unko Dan. Go BEN GO! (and don't be nice in doing so!
on May 13,2012 | 08:14PM
jtuquero wrote:
Cayetano got it right. He's being honest for the people of Oahu. Sure, the construction of the rail will bring short term jobs, but the long term effects is not worth it. Too expensive and ridership will be minimal. The second city on the ewa/Kapolei area is already being developed and many jobs are being shifted on that side of the island. Our bus system is one of the best in the nation and will continue to be so we should continue to use and improve it. It will be a lot cheaper!!
on May 13,2012 | 08:42PM
wondermn1 wrote:
If the entire Zipper lane only costs only 16 MILLION, why is the RAIL Going to cost 5. 6. or 7 BILLION dollarS. PEOPLE PLEASE THINK.sure, this is a wonderful invention, but, like everything in the Aloha State, how expensive is it going to be? Not as expensive as you might think. As an alternative to expensive freeway and construction, which typically cost tens of millions of dollars, the equipment and improvements required to put the Zipper Lane into effect will only cost around $16 million dollars. But the Zipper Lane will not benefit everyone. Cheaters beware. Because the Zipper Lane has a shoulder, police will now be able to pull over violators to issue citations.
on May 13,2012 | 09:01PM
wackykanaki wrote:
Cayetano should ask how many of those senoirs at McDonalds drive in the morning traffic. Rail will burn less gas than the bus, and in the bidg picture, keep oil for our grandchildren.
on May 13,2012 | 10:54PM
ammb3 wrote:
wackykanaki - get your facts straight. Rail will run from 4am-midnight generated by ELECTRICITY, which we get from OIL. The HYBRID buses run heavy during the morning and afternoon rush hour traffic, then during the slow periods, go back to the bus station on Middle St. Rail will burn MORE OIL than buses ever will. ONLY New York & Chicago rail systems are more efficient than buses.
on May 13,2012 | 11:12PM
niimi wrote:
I was a rail commuter in my life. I've also commuted extensively on the bus system here on Oahu. I still ride the bus as well as drive. If you don't personally use mass transit here on Oahu I do not believe you can pontificate from any reasonable position. Get out of your bleeding car for a year and use the bus, for instance. You'll learn two things. One, people who use the bus really sacrifice a lot. Two, those who don't ever take mass transit here have no basis to weigh in on a mass transit system. Rail on the mainland in 3 cities had 3 things in common: loud noise, long commute because of parking, totally inflexible leading to poor reach to the masses. Rail is loud. There is no way around it. Long commutes to park, then long walks to the station along with long walks or a long bus ride to get close to your destination. In general poor reach would ensure two-hour commutes each way. So riderships suffered well below expectations. Me and all my friends, and a lot of construction union friends are voting for Ben. We deserve better.
on May 13,2012 | 11:51PM
niimi wrote:
Mufi caused the problems: expensive rail, failed for approve any construction projects so the Jeremy Harris pipeline dried up with Mufi. Kirk ran things for a while and didn't do anything for the condition of the roads, sewers, water mains. Pete appears more like an out of touch mafia boss than a mayor. Now Kirk wants to be our mayor? Ben wants to eliminate a steel on steel rail and consider a much cheaper, more flexible BRT technology. And Ben wants to fix our roads, sewers and water mains. He said so from the onset. And that BRT system could be built with a substantially higher percentage of local construction labor than that steel on steel rail system forced on us by Mufi. Ben is in touch. The other candidates like Kirk seem way out of touch. Going to push for Ben even more now. Waving signs, donating.
on May 13,2012 | 11:55PM
niimi wrote:
Ben is showing the fiscally responsible approach. Asian culture, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Filipino culture is all about being conservative with finances. That itself will propel Ben whose position is one of conservative finances in government. Every rank and file union member who has Asian blood understands this. Ben's momentum is building, too. The Union BOSSes all know they are losing their rail project and scrambling. Ben is coming.
on May 14,2012 | 12:00AM
gowbows85 wrote:
Great article!
on May 14,2012 | 10:42PM
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