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Campaigns reset in wake of top court’s ruling on rail

By B.J. Reyes

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LAST UPDATED: 06:10 a.m. HST, Sep 17, 2012


The campaign for Honolulu mayor, much like the rail project that is at the heart of the debate in the race, is in a holding pattern.

Since the August primary and the subsequent decision a week later by the Hawaii Supreme Court that led to the halt of major construction on the $5.26 billion rail project, former Gov. Ben Cayetano and former city Managing Director Kirk Caldwell have been regrouping and refocusing their messages as they prepare for the final stretch of the Nov. 6 general election.

Caldwell, the pro-rail candidate, has maintained a busy schedule of meet-and-greets and sign-waving to press his message that the campaign is about more than rail.

“While rail transit is an important issue, this election is about so much more,” he said. “It’s about public safety and protecting our people and their property, providing transportation to get people to and from work, TheHandi-Van and services for the elderly, filling potholes and repaving our roads, stimulating our economy and properly rebuilding our infrastructure to move Honolulu comfortably into the 21st century while we maintain our current real property tax rates.”

Cayetano, who has vowed to stop the rail project if elected, says it’s too early to assess how the court decision will ultimately affect the race, but he is preparing to face not only the campaign of Caldwell but that of other pro-rail interests as well.

“I think the other side will throw a lot of money into the general and the race will be very close,” he said. “Rail will continue to be a big issue but just one of many issues.

“At this stage we are finalizing our transportation plan in which we are investing some money to illustrate it in graphics, PowerPoints and video.”

But Cayetano’s campaign should be bolstered by the Supreme Court’s ruling, said one political analyst.

“It gives Cayetano another talking point, for sure,” said Neal Milner, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii. “It’s just another step in the direction of making people just a tad more skeptical about rail, and I’m sure that Cayetano is going to use that as another reason why rail is bad.”

The Supreme Court handed rail opponents a clear victory last month when it ruled a state agency violated its own rules by approving the rail project before an archaeological survey was completed for the entire 20-mile rail route.

“I think that a lot of people are going to miss the technicality of the decision and see it as more definitive than it is,” Milner said. “It’s going to delay rail for sure, whatever happens, but I think the way it works for the Cayetano campaign is that it gets him to have another way to frame the rail issue as being something that isn’t going to work.”

Caldwell said the ruling has not affected his campaign, and that it highlights that rail is just one of many issues that need to be discussed.

“Right now, the issue is still in the courts so there’s not much we can do except wait,” he said. “I’m optimistic that the project will get back on track. I also believe it is critical that all the proper environmental reviews are conducted fully. Simply put, the project must be done right.

“However, this also gives us a good opportunity to talk about all the other issues for which the mayor will be responsible. … I look forward to debating Ben on these issues so that people can judge for themselves who will be best to run the city.”

To date, only one televised joint appearance has been set: a forum Oct. 4 on PBS’ “Insights.” The Kokua Council also said Caldwell and Cayetano will appear at its Sept. 24 meeting.

Caldwell said he has agreed to all requests for televised debates and community forums. Cayetano said he remains undecided.

Meanwhile, Cayetano said he plans to deliver his transportation plan to the public in a series of 10 community meetings over the last seven weeks of the campaign.

Both candidates say they continue to work on fundraising efforts to help get their messages out.

Cayetano led all candidates in the primary, raising $995,000 for the campaign. He spent most of it, primarily battling the pro-rail group Pacific Resources Partnership, and had $108,000 at the end.

Caldwell’s fundraising got off to a slower start but he finished strong and caught up to Cayetano, raising $942,000 for the race. But he spent much of that early on just raising his name recognition. He entered the general election season with just $25,000 in cash on hand and he carries a debt of $244,000.

Cayetano hasn’t held a fundraiser since July, while Caldwell has held two this month and already is on the air with an ad featuring his wife.

Cayetano was the top vote-getter in the primary, but with 44.7 percent of the vote he fell short of the 50 percent needed to win the mayor’s office outright. Caldwell advanced to a runoff in the general by finishing second with 29.5 percent. Mayor Peter Carlisle, who also was a strong supporter of the rail project, was third with 25.1 percent.

The combined votes of the two pro-rail candidates would top Cayetano, and Caldwell has said he will work to win over Carlisle supporters. Cayetano said he can win an additional 7 percent in the general election to take the office.






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MalamaKaAina wrote:
Another wooden stake into the HART of the Titanic rail fiasco from no where to no where and much more than a blight!
on September 17,2012 | 01:54AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail support is being hurt by a lot of the general public being uninformed and being swayed by the simplistic “we cannot afford the taxes to pay for rail” argument that is easy for opposers to claim. If one adds up all of the constituents that should be in favor of rail, the support for rail should easily be in the majority as when it was voted on by the public earlier. People in the business community want rail because they will benefit from the economic stimulus from the rail project. The unions want the rail because it will provide jobs for its members. The whole leeward side should want rail because it will help their commute and the development will improve their property values. The city council wants rail. Our Congress legislators want the rail system because they know it will help our state. Our Democratic delegation all support rail. Government workers want rail because they want more job opportunities. Land developers want rail so they can do development near stations. If you have any kind of relations: family, friends, or business with these supporters, you should also support rail for the overall benefit of our state. Don’t be afraid of taxes because it spreads the cost of government fairly over the entire population. Everybody hates taxes but wouldn’t you rather have something positive such as a new world class rail line to show for it instead of just a new sewer line? Rail is good for everybody. Don’t believe the naysayers.
on September 17,2012 | 02:14AM
what wrote:
A world class road and highway system to enable the people to travel and commute with ease, convenience, and freedom are what the people want. Rail is a world class SCAM to funnel BILLIONS of Oahu taxpayer dollars to Ansaldo, Parsons Brinkherhoff, Kiewit, et al, NOT HAWAII companies, employing mostly NOT HAWAII workers. Upgrading and improving highway infrastructure is a FRACTION the cost of rail, will employ HAWAII workers, is cheaper to maintain, and will provide greater benefit for the community. A vote for a Cayetano is a vote for a better Hawaii!
on September 17,2012 | 02:44AM
what wrote:
Caldwell is part of the reason that, despite the rail work stooppage, we are still paying HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars to Kiewit and Parson Brinkherhoff. Caldwell was part of past mayoral administrations that were so eager to hand over BILLIONS of Oahu taxpayer money to big business rail interests, that they gave them sweet sweet contracts that paid out HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS for inevitable, predictable delays like we are experiencing now. Vote Cayetano to end this fiasco!
on September 17,2012 | 02:51AM
autumnrose wrote:
Did you hear? Honolulu WON first prize for the most ridiculous mass transit rail plan in the nation! The 52nd largest urban area with 950,000 people spending over $5-billion = $5,500 per capita, more expensive than any rail system ever built, yet it is only ONE 20-mile elevated line that begins in the middle of the best grade of farm land in the entire state of Hawaii (according to local soils expert). The rail line doesn't even go a few miles farther to connect the "second city" of Kapolei, population 35,000. What a WINNER!
on September 17,2012 | 04:20AM
Rite80 wrote:
Sounds like you bought into the Cayetano's misinformation campaign.
on September 17,2012 | 06:17AM
OldDiver wrote:
Anti-rail campaigns around the country are all supported by the Texas billionaire oilmen Koch Brothers. They are also financing the Tea Party. Their aim is to stop the building of rapid transit projects ds America remains dependent on oil. Ben Cayetano's main transportation advisors Slater and Prevedouros are members of Koch Brother funded organizations to stop all rapid transit systems. Their anti-rail message is identical to their message across the country. It is sad to see Cayetano being used like a pawn to push the CONservative agenda.
on September 17,2012 | 06:30AM
edster48 wrote:
Sounds like he "bought into" common sense. You can keep drinking that kool-aid if you want!
on September 17,2012 | 07:21AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Ben will enhance Honolulu’s Bus System...................... Honolulu’s bus system is rated the best in the nation. My plan begins by enhancing rather than dismantling it as the city is now doing as part of its plan for rail............................ I would plan and implement an enhanced version of the bus rapid transit plan contained in the 2003 Final Environmental Impact Statement I signed as Governor and that the Federal Transit Administration approved in 2003..................... Full details of the Regional from the Ewa Plain and Mililani areas to Town are in this Final EIS................................... The city paid Parsons Brinkerhoff more than $10 million for the 2003 study, which concluded that Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) was superior to rail as it would generate higher ridership at roughly one-fifth the cost ($1.04 billion). The In-Town phase originally planned to run on dedicated lanes on Kapiolani and Ala Moana but was criticized for taking car lanes on those two heavily congested (two-way traffic) boulevards............. We are mindful of the criticism and will review the In-town phase with a focus on using (one-way, 5 lane) King and Beretania streets instead...................... It should be noted that BRT will be able to run to UH Mānoa and also Waikīkī whereas rail could not since the tourist industry is solidly opposed to heavy rail running on an elevated concrete structure through Waikiki...................................... Within the first year, I would increase the number of express and direct-route buses, and make better use of the zipper lanes and freeway-shoulder-use program that were initiated during my second term as governor................ I will significantly increase the number of point-to-point routes from Kapolei, Mililani, Wahiawa, Waianae and Windward Oahu, to downtown, Ala Moana, Waikiki and the UH-Manoa campus.(more info included in .Source: vote4Ben2012.com
on September 17,2012 | 07:35AM
OldDiver wrote:
Our Bus system is currently at or near full capacity. Even Ben Cayetano knows this. This is why he is proposing his phony BRT solution. Ben has said in the past he doesn't oppose rail. He just wants some future Mayor to build it.
on September 17,2012 | 08:24AM
aomohoa wrote:
No, everyone's eyes are finally open to the corruption and deception surrounds this rail project. If you think people are just upset about the money, your wrong. It's also about being deceived and lied to. About about trying to barely keep it legal, but then it's not and getting caught!.
on September 17,2012 | 12:20PM
PCWarrior wrote:
I don't really need to hear what Caldwell has to say. I know what the guy will say: anything he thinks we want to hear so that he will be elected.
on September 17,2012 | 12:25PM
luvshawaii wrote:
People like you, rite80 are trying to snow the people. But unfortunately for you and others of your persuasion, the people saw through the scam. The goal was to keep the people misinformed, but you guys got found out, way before Mr. Cayetano entered the arena. So, don't blame him, blame yourselves for not being honest from the start.
on September 17,2012 | 12:28PM
wiliki wrote:
Ben is no friend of the people. He intends to screw them on public transportation.
on September 17,2012 | 03:06PM
MKN wrote:
@OldDiver: If the Koch Brothers are "supposedly" supporting the anti-rail campaigns around the country, why isn't a national PAC participating in the debate against PRP or for that matter have millions of dollars going towards Cayetano's campaign? It's because what you are saying is a bunch of shibai. The Koch Brothers would never support a democrat for one and they would more than likely support PRP, HECO, and FHB instead since they are the big businesses that will benefit from this project. Not saying that they are supporting those three entities, but it is a possibility. LOL!!!
on September 17,2012 | 03:31PM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail opponents like to throw around the $5,500 average per resident general excise tax for rail based on its cost. But averages are misleading. People only pay GE tax according to their ability to spend. To pay $5,500 in half percent rail tax one has to spend $1.1 million. Most local residents are not rich enough to spend this much in order to pay $5,500 in GE tax for rail. Also, the GE taxes for rail we end up paying are even less since the federal government will be putting in $1.55 billion of the cost and that tourists and military who are not permanent residents also pay GE tax. We need the rail project and we are getting it a discount.
on September 17,2012 | 06:47AM
soundofreason wrote:
"Rail opponents like to throw around the $5,500 average per resident general excise tax for rail based on its cost. But averages are misleading. People only pay GE tax according to their ability to spend. To pay $5,500 in half percent rail tax one has to spend $1.1 million. "

>>>So, now YOU see how the math cost dictates that we cannot afford this. The cost IS the cost - the amount of residents is ALSO fixed. The numbers are the numbers and even YOU can't conceive how high they are. THANK YOU for admitting what we've been saying all along.


on September 17,2012 | 07:09AM
edster48 wrote:
Really? Who's going to pay for the SUBSIDIES to keep this mess running? Methinks it'll be us taxpayers.
on September 17,2012 | 07:24AM
OldDiver wrote:
With Ben Cayetano's phony BRT solution exposed for what it is, he is only left with using half truths and misleading lies to attack rail. Buses are much more costly to run than rail. Anti-railers should ask Ben how much he will need to raise property taxes to run his phony BRT system.
on September 17,2012 | 08:28AM
Shh wrote:
Oh give it up UKU!!! RAIL = FAIL!
on September 17,2012 | 10:00AM
luvshawaii wrote:
You can stop now, uku, because I don't believe a word you have to say. Lies on top lies will never convince me to vote for rail.
on September 17,2012 | 12:30PM
droid wrote:
@ukuleleblue: you just admitted that the average resident has to spend $1.1 million for us to collect enough taxes ($5.500 per person) to pay for rail. Thanks for reminding us why we can’t afford it.
on September 17,2012 | 01:27PM
wiliki wrote:
Ben is lying to leeward and central Oahu residents.
on September 17,2012 | 03:09PM
localguy wrote:
uku blue also fails to talk about rails failure to pay "Its Fair Share" of operational charges, taxpayers will be on the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars in rail costs. How is this fair uku? Why should taxpayers who will never ride rail be charged to maintain it? Hello? Anyone home? No, nothing but the hollow, empty sound of nothing.
on September 17,2012 | 05:53PM
Kuniarr wrote:
OldDiver, wiliki it is amazing how the both of you have stooped so low as to resorting to giving opinions that slufr and malign "Ben" or "Cayetano" .
on September 17,2012 | 07:12PM
Mythman wrote:
On its face, alone: improving that which exists instead of trying to replace it doesn't make economic or any other kind of practical sense. Therefore, one has to conclude there is something wrong behind the scenes going on. And it is apparent, as above, there is manipulation instead of repairing and improving and upgrading the existing. Do you fill the pothole or do you build an overpass over the pothole to deal with it. The real issue is how does the City get away with strong arming the tax payer. There is an obvious answer and it is found in the word "un io n".
on September 17,2012 | 08:31AM
autumnrose wrote:
Only those directly profiting from the rail fiasco are rail $upporter$, like those door to door canvassers PAID by I MUA RAIL/ PRP. To support rail is to support building TOD transit oriented development on the best farm land left in the state. To support rail is to support exorbitant salaries for HART employees, to support extravagant million-dollar a year office space, 2 floors in Alii Place for those employees, and to support millions of tax dollars for rail propaganda to promote rail.
on September 17,2012 | 04:28AM
Rite80 wrote:
Ho'opili is great farm land but is not the best farm land is the state. It is in fact just a small fraction of the farmland graded "A" or "B". You are again just repeating misinformation from the Cayetano campaign.
on September 17,2012 | 06:21AM
luvshawaii wrote:
Not so. You can stop regurgitating PRP lies. We stopped listening to you guys a long time ago.
on September 17,2012 | 12:32PM
wiliki wrote:
Current farmers in Hoopili support the residential project....
on September 17,2012 | 03:12PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
wiliki wrote: "Current farmers in Hoopili support the residential project...."

Doesn't that strike you as odd? I mean, let's say the rail was the best idea anyone ever had. Let's say it ran on good intentions instead of electricity from oil, and produced pineapple juice and hamburgers instead of CO2... wouldn't you still expect the guys making a living farming all that land that's about to get buried under two feet of concrete and asphalt be opposed to it?

It's almost like they are getting something that makes abandoning all that great farmland worthwhile.

Hey, didn't those guys have some serious legal troubles about a year ago and were looking at huge fines and jail time? What ever happened with that anyway?
on September 17,2012 | 05:21PM
luvshawaii wrote:
Don't believe a word you have to say.
on September 17,2012 | 06:44PM
MKN wrote:
@Rite80: The problem is most of the best farmland in the state is not being used while the farm land where Ho'opili is at was being used. That's the problem. You do realize that if shipping were to stop for more than two weeks, Hawaii would be completely out of Food and Supplies? That's why our precious farmland needs to be protected from overdevelopment like Ho'opili, Koa Ridge, and all of the other projects that have been approved. There's a song that says "They paved paradise, to put up a parking lot" and that's exactly what's happening.
on September 17,2012 | 03:35PM
NITRO08 wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 06:56AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
That's right. We don't know if the public is FOR or AGAINST rail because we NEVER had a vote on it. NEVER. Altho Cayetano didn't get the majority vote
on September 17,2012 | 07:44AM
IMVHO wrote:
I thought the 2008 ballot was pretty clear: "Shall the powers, duties, and functions of the city, through its director of transportation services, include establishment of a steel wheel on steel rail transit system?"
on September 17,2012 | 04:13PM
hybrid1 wrote:
The small number of seats on the Honolulu rail system is crazy........................... Can you imagine boarding the train after a long day's work, and then trying to stand, hanging onto a pole, during the entire 42-minute ride to Kapolei? What about your purse, briefcase or packages?.................. I think I'd rather ride the bus.................... With 64 seats, the two-car trains supposedly have room for 254 standing passengers. But that’s at “crush capacity,” which is far more crowded than Americans are willing to accept............................. Assuming the city increases the seating to 76 seats, actual loads are likely to be limited to a total of about 150 to 200 people per train............................... At a maximum of 20 trains an hour in each direction, the line will be able to move about 3,000 to 4,000 people per hour inbound in the morning and a similar number outbound in the afternoon. ....................................By comparison, a single highway lane (zipper) can easily move 600 buses per hour, and at 40 seats per bus that represents 24,000 people per hour, none of them having to stand.
on September 17,2012 | 08:04AM
OldDiver wrote:
Rail has a much higher rider capacity than buses. That is not debatable unless you want to debate the existence of unicorns.
on September 17,2012 | 08:29AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
The way you fantasize about things Ben Cayetano never said, I really don't want to get into unicorns with you, OD.

But you happen to be wrong on this one. For example, Portland’s Eastside MAX light rail line carries 1,980 passengers per hour in the peak direction whereas Portland’s 6th Avenue HOV lane carries 8,500 passengers per hour in buses.

The federal data is here: http://honolulutraffic.com/passperhour.htm
on September 17,2012 | 10:26AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Of course it is obvious that a sing rail car has the capacity for three Standing Room Only bus loads of riders. And that is exactly what is wrong with having trains transport commuters: Leeward commuter population has a low density that does not need the high rider capacity of trains
on September 17,2012 | 10:35AM
Shh wrote:
Well we don't have a rail and hopefully won't get a rail so for now the bus has a much higher rider capacity and that is not debatable!
on September 17,2012 | 11:12AM
wiliki wrote:
Rail has a higher capacity because it can carry passengers independent of the traffic conditions on the road. Buses have to deal with street traffic and cannot have as great a capacity.
on September 17,2012 | 03:15PM
Kuniarr wrote:
wiliki rail is not necessary in the face of the Zipper and the three Capacity Programs projects of the Sate in its Congestion Program under the Highways Modernization Plan: Oahu Projects.

All,if not most commuters from the west side would not be riding the train but the Bus Express. In addition, the Zipper and the three Capacity Programs projects of the State would entice hundreds to car or van pool. For the Bus Express and car and van pools would breeze through traffic congestion on the H1 and bypass all traffic lights on the Nimitz Highway.

Bus Express commuting would be non-stop (from bus transit station to another bus transit station) while the train is three stop commuting (bus transit station to train station; train station to another trains station; train station to bus transit station)

Finally, buses, cars and van pools travel at twice the speed of a slow train that has to make 19 stops between Kapolei and Alamoana.
on September 17,2012 | 07:25PM
Poidogs wrote:
Dude, people do this now on the bus, what's your point?
on September 17,2012 | 08:31AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
NITRO08 - Not quite true, you need to get your arithmetic/fact correct: based on the last statistic held and publish on the SA before the primary election, more than 50% of the people surveyed do not want the rail project to continue; this has nothing to do with Cayetano's 44% of the votes acquired.
on September 17,2012 | 11:26AM
aomohoa wrote:
A lot more of the pro rail lies have come out since then. It's a done deal, Ben will be elected and your job is done!
on September 17,2012 | 12:24PM
PCWarrior wrote:
Cayetano won by more than 30,000 votes. He won every district except two. He has never lost an election. Peter and Mufi, Rail Kingpens Nos. 1 and 2, were soundly, soundly defeated, Mufi for a second straight time. Not looking good for rail.
on September 17,2012 | 12:31PM
DPK wrote:
nitro08: Ben received 44% in a 3 way race is true. But only about 42% of eligible voters voted. Not far to go in November!
on September 17,2012 | 12:34PM
bender wrote:
The general public is very well informed. The truth is that all the glossy advertising done by Mufi early on is wearing off and people are finally seeing rail for what it is, a gift to the unions and not a transportation solution.
on September 17,2012 | 05:43AM
PCWarrior wrote:
Some of those slick brochures, like the city put out under managing director Caldwell, stated that HART would cost nothing, using a volunteer board and existing facilities. Lie. HART this year alone is costing taxpayers $22 million, and each and every year will cost this.
on September 17,2012 | 12:34PM
wiliki wrote:
This is probably a lie by Ben. HART operates the rail and will not be constructing rail. So it will not receive rail construction funds for it's operation.
on September 17,2012 | 03:20PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Yup HART operates the rail and redirects the FTA money to the skewed contractor's under White's supremacy group like PRP.
on September 17,2012 | 04:40PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Ukuleleblue wrote: "Everybody hates taxes but wouldn’t you rather have something positive such as a new world class rail line to show for it instead of just a new sewer line?"

That's like saying wouldn't you rather buy a new Ferrari instead of getting your leaking roof repaired!

I'd rather have clean water that is free from bacteria and hepatitis than a stupid train to the mall.


on September 17,2012 | 06:03AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Carlisle claims that rail result in taking off 40,000 vehicle trips daily from the road. ................. Yes, 40,000 seems like a big number but Carlisle did not tell you that the city itself predicts that by 2030 there will approximately 4 million vehicle trips on the road. ..............................40,000 is just 1% of the total vehicle trips. Is it worth spending $5.27 billion to reduce vehicle trips by only 1%?" ......................The big question is : ...."Today's traffic is congested. What is Caldwell's plan to remove the remaining 99 percent (vehicle trips), mainly at the bottlenecks at the H-1/H- merge, the Middle St. merge and the pm Halawa merge?"............................Will Caldwell spend another $7 to 14 Billion for another rail?............ ( The BRT will eliminate the H-1 bottlenecks with 200 express buses using the express lanes. (Feds fund 80% for new bus purchases).
on September 17,2012 | 07:33AM
CouncilmanBerg wrote:
Island Insights- PBS- will also feature BERG vs PINE for City Council District One from 8pm to 8:30pm on September 27...Kym Pine is pro rail and has taken money from the same folks trying to take down Cayetano and has held over 5 fundraisers. I am against this rail and have not taken one penny from the gang and have held ZERO fundraisers since taking office. This newspaper refuses to cover the feds/FTA New Starts funding classification that favors BRT over rail systems....and the FTA's new definition of a fixed guideway that NOW includes BRT. FTA will subsidize BRT projects at 80% versus rail at 30%. Buses beat rail on all fronts and the FTA admits it with their new rules and funding mechanisms yet this newspaper will not disclose this new opportunity being offered our city. Honolulu has been given the green light by the FTA to scrap this rail without penalty and instead implement BRT.
on September 17,2012 | 07:45AM
mellishi wrote:
Right on Berg! Let your voice be heard... GO BERG GO!!! and full speed for Ben...GO BEN GO, GO BEN GO!!! ( and when Mayor Cayetano gets in, Berg will be there on the council along with another supporter Aiona for Council District 6. DO NOT VOTE A PRO RAILER IN FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT 6 - Keep Pine and other pro-railers out of the Council!
on September 17,2012 | 08:03AM
Wazdat wrote:
Agree Mr. Berg. This paper is a joke sometimes.
on September 17,2012 | 08:27AM
Poidogs wrote:
Great, so are we to expect an hour of grandstanding and you trying to interrupt Pine every time she gets a chance to speak?
on September 17,2012 | 08:33AM
kiragirl wrote:
There can only be one of them. If Berg is there, Pine is absent!
on September 17,2012 | 10:16AM
PCWarrior wrote:
Actually I used to really like Pine. But her support for this particular rail project was a deal breaker!
on September 17,2012 | 12:41PM
wiliki wrote:
Pine knows what the people of the leeward area need and desire. Berg hasn't got a clue.
on September 17,2012 | 03:21PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 12:56PM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
Just put a red phone on Stanley's desk so he can call the SWAT team, the SEALS and the National Guard on Councilman Berg before he runs from room.
on September 17,2012 | 03:46PM
Mythman wrote:
Thank God for Tom Berg - the voice of reason and reality in a sea of lies and confusion and MANIPULATION
on September 17,2012 | 08:35AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Mr. Berg, Yup, as you mentioned' "... This newspaper refuses to cover the feds/FTA New Starts funding classification that favors BRT over rail systems....and the FTA's new definition of a fixed guideway that NOW includes BRT. FTA will subsidize BRT projects at 80% versus rail at 30%...", because this newspaper supports Caldwell, and perhaps secretly White's PRP and other unions. A kind of biased newspaper company, unfortunately, we have only one newspaper company in Hawaii, a sort of monopolization at work that supports only one political philosophy, and perhaps interest groups.
on September 17,2012 | 12:07PM
luvshawaii wrote:
Marcos-Pine is useless. All glory, no guts. I'm not in your district Mr. Berg, but if I were, I'd vote for you.
on September 17,2012 | 12:34PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 01:01PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Nanakuli Dude - You need to understand politics and freedom to voice out an opinion; just like you say your own opinion on this blogs.
on September 17,2012 | 01:29PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Uku - You got that right, the beleaguered Rail project do not have support from the vast majority of people based on the last survey: more than 50% wants the Rail project stopped; these people are NOT the naysayers.
on September 17,2012 | 09:37AM
Shh wrote:
BTW UKU, That is a full out lie! We NEVER had a vote that stated if we want or do not want Rail to be built! If we did vote on that issue then we would not be in this situation today! We had a sneaky question about rail on the ballot and then al of a sudden Rail was FORCED on to the people! That's how I remember it!
on September 17,2012 | 10:10AM
IMVHO wrote:
Again, I thought the ballot question was pretty straightforward: "Shall the powers, duties, and functions of the city, through its director of transportation services, include establishment of a steel wheel on steel rail transit system?" I'm not sure how you can say it was "sneaky"?
on September 17,2012 | 04:15PM
aomohoa wrote:
I never read you huge paragraph of bull because it is just that! The people are finally becoming informed about the corruption surrounding this rail. It's not about traffic, it's about you and your corrupt group making the big bucks.
on September 17,2012 | 12:17PM
PCWarrior wrote:
Don't believe ukuleleblue, a paid pro-rail blogger. Of course he going to say this particular rail plan is great. It isn't. The question isn't isn't "can we afford the taxes' the question is "for all the billions and billions that will be spent on rail, are the benefits of the project worth it? Does the project have enough bang for the buck? Cayetano's commercials, if done correctly, can show the lunacy of the city's plans. Start with the ridiculously exaggerated ridership numbers.
on September 17,2012 | 12:24PM
DPK wrote:
UK: yes, pouring raw sewage into the Waikiki waters will definitely be better than a one line train from nowhere. You sound like the guy that owns a Ferrari and lives in a trailer. He can't afford either, but thinks he looks good. Get real with your perspective.
on September 17,2012 | 12:29PM
lastuhu wrote:
Why are you always up so early? Because you're in Virgina?
on September 17,2012 | 02:20PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
ukuleleblue wrote: "Government workers want rail because they want more job opportunities. Land developers want rail so they can do development near stations."

I don't think that is the compelling argument that you seem to think it is.
on September 17,2012 | 03:00PM
localguy wrote:
Once again ukublue is paying the SA to have the first of his many shibai rail postings, reposting the same ones he has used hundreds of time with no effect. Love this line of shibai, "Don’t be afraid of taxes because it spreads the cost of government fairly over the entire population" Hello, subsidies for rail's failure to pay its "FAIR SHARE" of operational costs are another word for taxes as is the HART slush fund to pay for all the change orders and willful delays, wasting more tax money. Rail is so far behind and over budget HART is doing everything it can to hide it. Sad to say rail never had a chance due to a lack of professional management. No, Grabby Boy is not it, not even close. Don't believe the shibai posters like uku blue.
on September 17,2012 | 05:46PM
mellishi wrote:
...just keep going Ben! GO BEN GO!!!
on September 17,2012 | 07:50AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 01:57AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Kuli
on September 17,2012 | 03:20AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Look up Cayetano's BRT plan in this link: www.honolulutraffic.com/feis_Vol_1_complete.pdf
on September 17,2012 | 03:21AM
OldDiver wrote:
Ten years ago Cayetano rejected using King Street and Beretania Streets for BRT because those roads are too narrow and BRT would only make traffic congestion worse. Ten years later those roads are still too narrow for BRT. The only difference today is Cayetano needed an alternative to rail so he came up with a phony plan. Don't worry though, Ben has no plans to build his phony project.
on September 17,2012 | 06:56AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Ben will enhance Honolulu’s Bus System...................... Honolulu’s bus system is rated the best in the nation. My plan begins by enhancing rather than dismantling it as the city is now doing as part of its plan for rail............................ I would plan and implement an enhanced version of the bus rapid transit plan contained in the 2003 Final Environmental Impact Statement I signed as Governor and that the Federal Transit Administration approved in 2003..................... Full details of the Regional from the Ewa Plain and Mililani areas to Town are in this Final EIS................................... The city paid Parsons Brinkerhoff more than $10 million for the 2003 study, which concluded that Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) was superior to rail as it would generate higher ridership at roughly one-fifth the cost ($1.04 billion). The In-Town phase originally planned to run on dedicated lanes on Kapiolani and Ala Moana but was criticized for taking car lanes on those two heavily congested (two-way traffic) boulevards............. We are mindful of the criticism and will review the In-town phase with a focus on using (one-way, 5 lane) King and Beretania streets instead...................... It should be noted that BRT will be able to run to UH Mānoa and also Waikīkī whereas rail could not since the tourist industry is solidly opposed to heavy rail running on an elevated concrete structure through Waikiki...................................... Within the first year, I would increase the number of express and direct-route buses, and make better use of the zipper lanes and freeway-shoulder-use program that were initiated during my second term as governor................ I will significantly increase the number of point-to-point routes from Kapolei, Mililani, Wahiawa, Waianae and Windward Oahu, to downtown, Ala Moana, Waikiki and the UH-Manoa campus.(more included in .Source: voteBen2012.com
on September 17,2012 | 08:06AM
OldDiver wrote:
hybrid1, You are just copying and pasting from Ben Cayetano's misinformation web page.
on September 17,2012 | 08:31AM
Kuniarr wrote:
And what do you think you have been doing, OD? Except spread make-up baloney about "Ben",
on September 17,2012 | 11:58AM
wiliki wrote:
Hybrid really doesn't know anything about these numbers.
on September 17,2012 | 03:24PM
localguy wrote:
OldDiver. And how are your posts any different?
on September 17,2012 | 05:54PM
Kuniarr wrote:
OldDiver what's this baloney about Ten years ago? All you have been doing in this forum is mostly spreading your slurs and biased fiction against "Ben". Each of your blog that contains the word Ben are concoctions you make against "Ben".
on September 17,2012 | 11:56AM
luvshawaii wrote:
Go get um, Kuniarr!
on September 17,2012 | 12:36PM
pakeheat wrote:
OldDiver, don't you ever change you're opinions before? Gee Whiz get a grip, we are all humans.
on September 17,2012 | 01:36PM
boshio wrote:
It is a natural disaster plan. More busses on our already over crowded roads. No matter how you cut it, Oahu needs a rail transit system. Remember the same delays and controversies on the H-3 project? Thank God it got completed.
on September 17,2012 | 07:04AM
hybrid1 wrote:
FACTS:....200 express buses will easily fit in the zipper lane which has a capacity of 2,000 buses per hour. ................ .In-town, only .50 buses per hour are needed and will easily fit in each of the five lanes of King St and Beretania St which EACH lane has a capacity of 1,000 buses per hour............. 200 buses will remove 8,300 cars off of the freeway and streets and free up 4 freeway lanes. No traffic congestion with buses. ............FACT: .The $7 Billion rail will worsen congestion at the H-1 bottleneck merges by over 500%. source -Table 3-12 of the City's Alternative Analysis....
on September 17,2012 | 08:07AM
wiliki wrote:
In slow city traffic more like 800 buses will be needed to carry the same amount of passengers as rail in the same time. This is a fact.
on September 17,2012 | 03:26PM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
And the cost of 800 buses are a (fraction of a) drop in the bucket compared to a $5,270,000.000.00 twenty mile rail.
on September 17,2012 | 03:50PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Based on what facts wiliki?
on September 17,2012 | 04:50PM
pakeheat wrote:
boshio, please do more homework, you don't what you're talking about?
on September 17,2012 | 08:15AM
wiliki wrote:
No need... he knows the truth.
on September 17,2012 | 03:26PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Yes Ben knows the truth.
on September 17,2012 | 04:36PM
pakeheat wrote:
Then you need to do some homework to wiliki, LOL.
on September 17,2012 | 09:21PM
autumnrose wrote:
naNOkuli is trying to DISTRACT from the REAL REASON carpenters & contractors & engineers & bankers & realtors support rail -- NOT for most cost-effective traffic solution, but for developing & selling mixed-use CONDO TOWERS in KAKAAKO & AIEA & paving over the best farm land in the state!
on September 17,2012 | 04:34AM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
Yep, the rail was NEVER was about traffic reduction. It's all about DEVELOPMENT.
on September 17,2012 | 03:51PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 07:47PM
Eagle156 wrote:
Rail is dead. RIP. Bring on the express buses that service ALL the island
on September 17,2012 | 09:07PM
OldDiver wrote:
Cayetano has no plan.
on September 17,2012 | 06:31AM
beachbum11 wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 08:19AM
wiliki wrote:
Rail is the only viable solution.
on September 17,2012 | 03:27PM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
...for putting plenty of money in a few pockets. Screw the aina and the people -- get da kala!
on September 17,2012 | 03:53PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Barely true.
on September 17,2012 | 04:25PM
pakeheat wrote:
LIe again, you need to gargle some Listerine brah, LOL.
on September 17,2012 | 09:22PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Another one of your baloney about Cayetano, OD?
on September 17,2012 | 11:59AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 07:47PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Kuli all you do is make a lot of NOnsense in this forum.
on September 17,2012 | 10:23PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
OldDiver - Can you provide a plan from a supported candidate of yours????
on September 17,2012 | 01:30PM
localguy wrote:
OldDiver has no plan either. Twice nothing is still nothing.
on September 17,2012 | 05:55PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
If you read this article, you'd know that Cayetano is finalizing his transportation plan. Stay tuned.
on September 17,2012 | 07:47AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 02:02AM
Kuniarr wrote:
does not want, Kuli? Baloney.
on September 17,2012 | 03:24AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Kuli why is it you have nothing to do in this forum but make assumptions of what Ben wants?
on September 17,2012 | 03:26AM
OldDiver wrote:
Ben Cayetano does not want to debate. His advisors don't want him to embarrass himself again with more mumbling and bumbling answers.
on September 17,2012 | 06:59AM
beachbum11 wrote:
MAY I DEBATE YOU OD ONE ON ONE?
on September 17,2012 | 08:21AM
wiliki wrote:
Caldwell knows this issue very well. Ben will just make himself look bad. Ben doesn't have the facts on his side and Caldwell will point that out.
on September 17,2012 | 03:29PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Like Caldwell who supported the rail:: Hanemann and Carlisle who supported the rail, they are history as political losers.
on September 17,2012 | 04:31PM
Kuniarr wrote:
OldDiver why is it you have nothing to do in this forum except make assumptions of What Ben does not want?
on September 17,2012 | 12:00PM
aomohoa wrote:
I guess he doesn't lie well on the fly.
on September 17,2012 | 12:30PM
bender wrote:
Don't you mean it will be Ben and a potted plant?
on September 17,2012 | 05:45AM
beachbum11 wrote:
Right, and now Kirk is using is wife to run ads. Of cause she wants you to vote for her has been. She wants to be second lady so she can dance around town like a queen. She should have stayed home and teach her girl right from wrong.
on September 17,2012 | 08:23AM
sleepingdog wrote:
Cayetano is participating in online Civil Beat discussions and has come up against tough questions. Caldwell has been invited to participate, but so far he has declined.
on September 17,2012 | 07:06AM
beachbum11 wrote:
Hard questions for Kirk.
on September 17,2012 | 08:24AM
aomohoa wrote:
He just likes to walk around and shake hands. We saw him and sorry we are voting for Ben.
on September 17,2012 | 04:55PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Nanakuli dude - Uncle Cayetano No need for debate, based on the last election, majority of the districts voted for the guy; unless you can dis-proved the districts that supported then ...
on September 17,2012 | 09:41AM
luvshawaii wrote:
He may not be the best speaker, but that's not what I'm looking for in a mayor. We need someone who actually cares about Hawaii (not California, or Japan, or China) and it's people and wants to do the best he can for us. Caldwell is a slick talker (like obama), but that doesn't mean he can do the job.
on September 17,2012 | 12:42PM
pakeheat wrote:
Look at Carlisle, guess what happened to him? Slick prosecutor with the mouth, but he fooled a lot of people.
on September 17,2012 | 01:38PM
wiliki wrote:
The facts are NOT on Ben's side. No matter how well he debates, you can't make a pig look any prettier.
on September 17,2012 | 03:30PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
The pig do not look any prettier, but the majority of the districts voted for the so called pig you derogatorily labeled Mr. Cayetano.
on September 17,2012 | 04:16PM
aomohoa wrote:
You are the rude pig wiliki! Caldwell looks and acts like a used car salesman. He'll say what ever he needs to make the sale.
on September 17,2012 | 04:58PM
Marina wrote:
Bring back Mayor Jeremy Harris. He did a lot of great things for our city and had a Bus Rapid Transit project ready too go....except Mufi killed it.
on September 17,2012 | 02:18PM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
Harris did a great job with Waikiki BTW.
on September 17,2012 | 03:56PM
ukuleleblue wrote:
This whole issue is more than just about rail. This is all about twenty-first century progress in our island community. We cannot have it both ways. We would all love to keep the pristine island beauty but we have already come too far with man-made development. Development of modern infrastructures is to provide a better quality of life so more people can live and enjoy the best place on earth. We need the large infrastructure projects to make our economy prosper so that residents have jobs to be able to live here. Rail will provide billions of dollars in economic activity to keep our community thriving. Maybe there was a technical misstep in the timing of the needed full archaeological survey but the already started construction was only done in areas unlikely to encounter any sacred burial sites. The required surveys would be completed in time to build in the critical Kakaako area. No one here wants to violate the sanctity of our beloved Hawaiian peoples. They welcomed all of us outsiders to be able to live amongst them in their beautiful environment. If there was a more unanimous consensus in taking advantage of all opportunities such as rail to improve our economy with more jobs, instead of some people opposing the project, that effort could be used to focus on helping to satisfy requirements. Right now we are gradually evolving into a community of only two classes of people who will be able to live here. Hawaiians will be able to live on designated homestead land and only rich people will be able to afford to own the rest of the privately held land. Average locals (non-Hawaiians) need to have jobs to be able to afford to own a home here and that is why building up our economy is crucial. Hopefully we can fulfill the archaeological survey requirements to satisfy the Hawaiian people as quickly as possible to minimize the delay and added cost and get the rail back on track. If we do not build rail, average locals won't have jobs to be able to afford to live here and will have to move elsewhere. More rich foreigners will come here and keep bidding up all our limited real estate to unaffordable levels and squeeze out the locals who already live here. Rail is an important driver of our economy to provide livelihoods so that our children and grandchildren can stay here.
on September 17,2012 | 02:24AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 02:50AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 02:53AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Did you get one of those blue light specials at KMart for buy one get one free Medical Degrees?
on September 17,2012 | 03:39AM
beachbum11 wrote:
No he got it from Kam Swap Meet from a little old lady.
on September 17,2012 | 08:26AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
I look forward to the debate where the moderator calls Kirk , MUFI. As my tutu said, the face of one and the 'elemu of the other....how you tell them apart?
on September 17,2012 | 09:19AM
wiliki wrote:
I saw Ben stumble on Dan Boylan's Hawaii PBS show when he discussed issues with Caldwell and Carlisle.
on September 17,2012 | 03:32PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Ben did exceptionally well during the primary debates and wiped the floor with both his opponents. For you to make such mean spirited and baseless accusations against him is mean-spirited and deceitful.

Why can't you guys discuss the facts instead of making up lies and slandering Ben Cayetano?
on September 17,2012 | 06:15AM
NITRO08 wrote:
THEN WHY IS HE BEING A CHILD FOR WANTING THE DEBATE HIS WAY OR NO WAY!
on September 17,2012 | 07:00AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Rail props are getting so desperate that they can only resort to name calling.
on September 17,2012 | 07:23AM
wiliki wrote:
Ben should have 5 debates with Caldwell-- like Hirono had with Ed Case. It's only fair that the voters get a chance to decide if Ben really has his marbles and knows the facts about rail.
on September 17,2012 | 03:33PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Nitro ready to explode.
on September 17,2012 | 07:52AM
beachbum11 wrote:
Same with Hirano. She don't want to debate even herself.
on September 17,2012 | 08:28AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Doesn't matter. Peter and Kirk are the same animal.
on September 17,2012 | 07:52AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Governor Ben : • Pushed through one of the biggest state personal income tax reductions in the nation at the time • Reduced the size and growth of state government to less than the inflation rate • Established the Hawai‘i Tourism Authority • Implemented civil service reform • Built a record number of public schools • Built a record number of homes for Native Hawaiian homesteaders • Developed the Hawai‘i Convention Center to boost tourism • Started the Hawai‘i State Art Museum • Began construction of the new John A. Burns School of Medicine and research center for the University of Hawai‘i • Kept his promise to make public education his highest priority by sparing schools from budget cuts at the expense of other state departments • Ordered the State Attorney General to investigate the Bishop Estate, an $11 billion trust fund set up for the benefit and education of Hawaiian children • When Hawaii’s economy rebounded in 1999, Ben promoted growth in new areas to further diversify the economy • Created the nation’s first state-funded after-school Plus (A )in 1989.
on September 17,2012 | 08:10AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Nanakuli Dude - Do you have a medical evidence to support Cayetano's dementia as you claimed? The public should be aware of such claim of yours. Use a spell checker before publishing regarding the spelling of your word "demetia"; it should be dementia.
on September 17,2012 | 09:44AM
PCWarrior wrote:
If Ben was in a catatonic state he'd still be better than Caldwell.
on September 17,2012 | 12:47PM
localguy wrote:
Actually I'm seeing signs of dementia in uku blue's postings, always repeating his words, cut and paste the same post hundreds of times, nothing new. Sad to see uku blue losing it, just like rail.
on September 17,2012 | 06:30PM
edster48 wrote:
Fabulous! All at taxpayer expense too! If you want to do something about obesity how about taking more criminals off the streets so that parents feel that they can let their kids out to play, you know, like normal kids. We didn't seem to have these problems back in the days when this was the norm.
on September 17,2012 | 07:36AM
Allenk wrote:
Instead of all this money being spent on rail, if we really want to get more vehicles off the roads, what about better bike lanes? If people don't want to commute 2 hours into town, then maybe they should look for employment opportunities closer to home. Instead of enrolling their kids into private schools which require them to be on the road, improve the public school system so that they can attend neighborhood schools. But don't just create make work that only temporarily solves the real problem. If we can create jobs great, but in the long run, will usage justify the high cost?
on September 17,2012 | 08:10AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Nanakuli dude - The beleaguered Rail project will support ONLY limited sites not like Ewa Beach, Mililani, Hawaii Kai, etc... Your assumptions and rhetoric should be more original or based on good educational guess supporting your statistics (not from personal experienced); for example as you said "...This will greatly assist with obesity. I recently visit a country with extensive rails and subway. I lost 15 lbs,and felt ithe ten years agoI have in ten years F..." Perhaps better stats and data reference will make a better argument.
on September 17,2012 | 09:32AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Nothing but self-serving glorification of rail which is not only unnecessary but also a waste of billions.
on September 17,2012 | 03:28AM
bender wrote:
Who reads this? Waste of time.
on September 17,2012 | 05:49AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Ukuleleblue wrote: "If we do not build rail, average locals won't have jobs to be able to afford to live here and will have to move elsewhere. More rich foreigners will come here and keep bidding up all our limited real estate to unaffordable levels and squeeze out the locals who already live here."

I've asked you multiple times to explain this fear mongering claim. How will this train both improve the economy and make Oahu less attractive to "rich foreigners"?

And who are you calling 'rich foreigners' anyway?
on September 17,2012 | 06:10AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Local people will have fewer jobs to be able to keep paying for their house. They will have to sell and rich outsiders will buy the available inventory. Gradually only rich people will be able to afford to stay here.
on September 17,2012 | 06:53AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
JOBS?? Are you serious?? Upgrading our sewer system, upgrading our water systems, fixing our 3rd world roads, upgrading our public school infrastructure? These are long term projects that will require lots of workers and create a lot of jobs. Using "jobs" as a reason is just an excuse.
on September 17,2012 | 07:55AM
beachbum11 wrote:
Bye Bye UKU
on September 17,2012 | 08:29AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Uku- The beleaguered Rail project will have few jobs for ONLY for those locals who belongs the PRP's White Supremacy Group or unions peons; so, your correct the jobs are not many Oahu citizens who are looking for jobs to support their living subsidies.
on September 17,2012 | 09:24AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Mufi and the rail machine promised 10,000 jobs with rail construction. (but they also implied the train would have seats) Oahu got was about 300 jobs with a significant number going to mainland hires. I don't know if that included clerical and administrative staff at their luxury downtown offices or if it included their public relations teams like California's Doug Carlson.

Now, you may be fine with taking billions out of the pockets of local families and using it to create real jobs in Italy and California, but don't pretend that those jobs will keep your scary, scary 'foreigners' from swooping in.

This train is already making it harder for local families to live here. It's taken almost a billion dollars out of the local economy and sent it off to giant corporations in New York, Nebraska, and Italy. It's managed to ruin our formerly award winning bus system and is planning on raiding $200,000,000.00 from its maintance fund.

If you really cared about local families, we'd see you posting in stories about our crumbling infrastructure and our poor education system. Your train, as it is currently planned, benefits giant corporations at the expense of local families.
on September 17,2012 | 09:42AM
Iiotoko wrote:
Uku, for once you got something right: "average locals" will not be able to afford to keep paying for their houses. This, however, is not because there won't be jobs that pay the locals, e.g., repairing and mainting much needed infrastructure that benefit ALL Oahu residents, but because the property taxes will be raised to pay for and maintain the rail project to a level where the locals can't make enough to pay them. Your friend NanakuliB, who so arrogantly have suggested to just keep raising the bus fares to pay for the lack of funds that the City claims as the reason why it won't be able to reinstate the cancelled bus routes anytime soon, and you are so typical of pro-rail faction: self-serving insensitive and inconsiderate to the needs of your fellow locals.
on September 17,2012 | 10:23AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 08:00PM
pakeheat wrote:
sure NanakuliBoss, you really are a inconsiderate dude to make them pay higher taxes, LOL.
on September 17,2012 | 09:25PM
localguy wrote:
Actually I'm seeing signs of dementia in uku blue's postings, always repeating his words, cut and paste the same post hundreds of times, nothing new. Sad to see uku blue losing it, just like rail.
on September 17,2012 | 06:30PM
Mythman wrote:
He means Canadians and Chinese I think. The Canadians are all over the North Shore and the Chinese will be coming using EB-5 through Micah Kane.
on September 17,2012 | 08:48AM
edster48 wrote:
Uhh...right, 19th century technology is the wave of the future. Brilliant!
on September 17,2012 | 07:30AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Going into the 21st century is not the point UKU. Doing things right and being fiscally responsible is the whole point. Rail could have been something good for Oahu but as usual, once the politicians like Mufi, Peter, Nestor, and the like put their hands on it, it started to rust. This 20 mile project is costing more than the Mars landing project. How can that be?
on September 17,2012 | 07:51AM
Mythman wrote:
"Rail will provide billions of dollars in economic activity to keep our community thriving": you continually state this as if a fact. Please be kind as to cite the study that establishes this as a fact not a conjecture. I would like to read it. If it exists and I believe it, I will stop opposing rail and support it and shift over to becoming a local who profits by participating in this "billions of dollars in (new) economic activity". Let's see, what kind of a business should I go into to make money from rail? Selling new luxury cars to union bosses? Organizing junkets for union guys tired and worn out from laying concrete to the Hotel California by advancing them ten grand each with which to gamble and then breaking their kneecaps when they fail to pay it back, err, what else, Anyone have any suggestions?
on September 17,2012 | 08:44AM
DPK wrote:
UK: If the rail is built it will take 10 years to complete it. The responsible way to take care of our children's future would be to take those rail taxes and educate the kids for the future. Then they will be able to afford to live comfortably here. Swinging hammers now does nothing for the future of our kids in the 21st century.
on September 17,2012 | 12:46PM
localguy wrote:
Rail is another name for being on the dole, taking tax payer's money for nothing in return. Sadly this is what we do in Hawaii, spend tax payer's money like it will never end. Rail is not the Holy Grail which will lift all islanders out of poverty, eliminate poverty and unemployment, turn streets to gold and fill everyone's bank account despite what uku blue and Grabby Boy say. It is a bottomless pit of tax payer's money, growing larger every year while our roads, water and sewer lines crumble away. Time to kill this problem in the bud. This is what we do, fail to spend tax payer's money wisley.
on September 17,2012 | 06:28PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Kirk Caldwell loves the unions and the unions love Caldwell. If he's elected he will owe the unions big time and it will be business as usual.
on September 17,2012 | 03:37AM
Bean808 wrote:
Bong Caldwell is the puppet on the string, He and Mufi were around when all of the contracts were award improperly just so they could get it started and take credit. Now he's talking that Rail is not the only issue. What a hypocrite. He wants this one so bad that he say anything that the Unions, big businesses, etc. want him to say or do. His role as the managing director was only to make Mufi look good. A puppet then an will always be a puppet. Bongo we don't trust you!
on September 17,2012 | 09:49AM
Kuniarr wrote:
The Honolulu high capacity rail transit project is not only unnecessary but also extremely expensive. The AM zipper and the three capacity programs in the Congestion Program of the Highways Modernization Plan: Oahu Project of the state makes commuting by car/van pool or Bus Express preferable to train.

These three projects are mentioned on page 2-9 and page 2-10 in the Final Financial Plan for Full Funding Agreement (SOURCE: http://www.honolulutransit.org/document-library/finances.aspx. Download Final Financial Plan then go to page 2-9 and 2-10).

Commuting on the AM zipper and on the three State projects mentioned in the Final Financial Plan (see source named above) by car/van pool or Bus Express is faster and a lot more convenient than train.

Faster and more convenient because (a) commuting is non-stop for Bus Express (bus transit station to bus transit station) while commuting is three-stop for train (bus transit station to train station; train station to train station; train station to bus transit station) (b) bus, cars, or vans travel twice the speed of the train (c) bus, cars, or vans on the AM zipper and the 3 state projects bypass not only traffic on the H1 but also traffic lights on the Nimitz Highway. According to Peter M. Rogoff himself, administrator of the FTA, rail is extremely expensive. (Source: http://www.fta.dot.gov/newsroom/sitemap_11682.html
on September 17,2012 | 03:48AM
Haumeakai wrote:
“While rail transit is an important issue, this election is about so much more,” he said. “It’s about public safety and protecting our people and their property, providing transportation to get people to and from work, TheHandi-Van and services for the elderly, filling potholes and repaving our roads, stimulating our economy and properly rebuilding our infrastructure to move Honolulu comfortably into the 21st century while we maintain our current real property tax rates.” Exactly. How are you going to do it all? We cannot fill our potholes as it is, how are you going to pay for rail without increasing taxes?
on September 17,2012 | 03:55AM
bender wrote:
Caldwell can't do it. He will advocate for increased property taxes, and the pro-railers on the City Council will deliver. That's why it's important that we elect Cayetano, it would send a strong message to the City Council that the public is no longer going to put up with rail foolery.
on September 17,2012 | 05:51AM
NITRO08 wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 07:07AM
pakeheat wrote:
And what about you NITRO08, are you telling the truth? NOT!!!!!
on September 17,2012 | 08:20AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
NITRO08 - What make you smarter than Bender, as you sad he doesn't know anything? Give some smart commentary examples rather than a short derogatory statement.
on September 17,2012 | 11:35AM
aomohoa wrote:
It must have been something really bad to get deleted! Nitro was exploding I'm sure.
on September 17,2012 | 06:45PM
hawaiinui wrote:
You are so RIGHT! Taking care of our collective needs in the public arena and taking care of our own as well as the tourists that spend money on our island. Every dollar spent has long reaching effects. Twenty first century ideas should productive not a step backwards as of the case of the rail. SImply put, too expensive for old technology, too many players dealing in corruption, way too much grabbed out of our pockets to allow us to make Oahu our home in the future and even more promises that cannot be kept. Shame on the everyone having a hand in this scam plyed out shamelessly in our faces.
on September 17,2012 | 06:38AM
NITRO08 wrote:
The city just repaved the roads in Aiea, yes it's a slow process but Ben wouldn't speed up anything! The city is working on the road and sewers but it takes time and they also is building a rail system. You don't know what you are talking about AND IS MAKING THINGS UP AS YOU GO ALONG!
on September 17,2012 | 07:06AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Actually, he brings up a good point Nitro. Why don't you tell us how WE are going to pay for all these projects. The upgrade of our sewer system is also a multi billion dollar project.
on September 17,2012 | 07:58AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
NITRO08 - Do you know what your implying on your statement "... You don't know what you are talking about AND IS MAKING THINGS UP AS YOU GO ALONG!...", instead of just a derogatory statement?
on September 17,2012 | 11:50AM
loquaciousone wrote:
THE RAIL IS DEAD. It's time to address more pressing issues such as sewer, water, and road repairs. As a long time bus rider and now, because of Wayne, a driver I am appalled at the road conditions. It seems that there are no roads on Oahu that doesn't need some type of immediate maintenance. Our sewer and water systems are outdated and repairs and maintenance needs to done immediately before we have raw sewage running down our streets. Every week there is a water main break somewhere. Our bridges are old and in danger of failing as evidenced by the closure of the Karsten Thot bridge. Enough money has been wasted on the rail by our idiotic Mayors and DOTS Directors.
on September 17,2012 | 04:04AM
akuman808 wrote:
The article reports that Kirk Caldwell has already incurred a debt of $244K running his campaign. Yet he claims he would be able to insure that the rail project would not exceed budgeted forecast and that he could run the city more efficiently than the current mayor. A 6 figure debt and counting is problematic and a validation of the incompetence of not being able to balance your own check book and not spending more than you take in. Yet he has taken out more ads with no money????
on September 17,2012 | 05:21AM
NITRO08 wrote:
So kirk a 244K dept so where is the big money that supposed to be behind him to get elected? Anti rail people are full it it!
on September 17,2012 | 07:12AM
akuman808 wrote:
You got it wrong, I'm PRO-BUS. For the mentally challenged (MC) increasing the number of buses along the heavily traffic conduits is a common sense soluton. The MC want to know how Ben will do it. Purchasing buses is usually the first step and not very difficult. Second, budget the bus fares to the cost involved and effect a fare increase. Third, designate dedicated lanes and routes. Legislators are afraid to price the cost of doing business and effect the proper fare ratesl in fear of "votes". Just because they fail in their job doen't mean the concept of the bus system is flawed. It works, it's full and carries more people per bus versus the number per rail car.
on September 17,2012 | 07:24AM
hybrid1 wrote:
Ben will enhance Honolulu’s Bus System...................... Honolulu’s bus system is rated the best in the nation. My plan begins by enhancing rather than dismantling it as the city is now doing as part of its plan for rail............................ I would plan and implement an enhanced version of the bus rapid transit plan contained in the 2003 Final Environmental Impact Statement I signed as Governor and that the Federal Transit Administration approved in 2003..................... Full details of the Regional from the Ewa Plain and Mililani areas to Town are in this Final EIS................................... The city paid Parsons Brinkerhoff more than $10 million for the 2003 study, which concluded that Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) was superior to rail as it would generate higher ridership at roughly one-fifth the cost ($1.04 billion). The In-Town phase originally planned to run on dedicated lanes on Kapiolani and Ala Moana but was criticized for taking car lanes on those two heavily congested (two-way traffic) boulevards............. We are mindful of the criticism and will review the In-town phase with a focus on using (one-way, 5 lane) King and Beretania streets instead...................... It should be noted that BRT will be able to run to UH Mānoa and also Waikīkī whereas rail could not since the tourist industry is solidly opposed to heavy rail running on an elevated concrete structure through Waikiki...................................... Within the first year, I would increase the number of express and direct-route buses, and make better use of the zipper lanes and freeway-shoulder-use program that were initiated during my second term as governor................ I will significantly increase the number of point-to-point routes from Kapolei, Mililani, Wahiawa, Waianae and Windward Oahu, to downtown, Ala Moana, Waikiki and the UH-Manoa campus.(more included in .Source: voteBen2012.com
on September 17,2012 | 08:12AM
Mythman wrote:
21st Century: Genius working for Apple invents and patents a completely new kind of "bus" that replaces everything else. It reduces the width of the old fashioned bus while increasing is length, so a new bus of this kind acts as if it were a train, like in the 19th century, carrying more freight and passengers on a smaller footprint. In addition, the fuel it uses is provided by a new iteration of permanent magnets, which provides electricity without it having to be produced in a power plant remotely located from the bus itself. It never needs refueling except to eventually replace the magnets themselves. All rail systems across the world are being demolished and carted by construction unions to the local trash dumps.
on September 17,2012 | 08:53AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
NITRO08 - Likewise on your derogatory comment "...are full it it!.." for the pro rail.
on September 17,2012 | 10:44AM
cojef wrote:
Sad that Caldwell is associated with the "has been" Mufi. He will meet the same faith in the upcoming election in November. He is also connected with hasty decisions to award contracts before the due diligence "iwi" survey were conducted, in view of the Super Ferry debacle. Lessons have obviously not been learned, which are sure signs that his decision making process has lot to be desired. Meanwhile, Ben's skills have been demonstrated and matter of record. Take your pick.
on September 17,2012 | 05:54AM
NITRO08 wrote:
What skills are you talking about that Ben is good at crying on how a debate will be run? Oh I took my pick kirk!
on September 17,2012 | 07:15AM
islandsun wrote:
NOT selling out is a great skill. Many politicians dont have it. Ben does, and your boys will spend big time to stop him.
on September 17,2012 | 02:17PM
aomohoa wrote:
What really maters is that Caldwell is OWNED by the unions!
on September 17,2012 | 06:47PM
Mach2 wrote:
Go Ben, go! Stop da billion dollah rail mistake!
on September 17,2012 | 06:33AM
localpoi wrote:
If we can't even afford "da bus" how will we afford rail? We can't afford to maintain our current infrastructure.
on September 17,2012 | 06:38AM
hybrid1 wrote:
FACT: FEDS pay 80% for new buses which will use the existing zippers. Oahu tax payers pay 80% for the $7 Billion rail.
on September 17,2012 | 08:14AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Here's how it is going to go:

First we kill the rail. Then we address the other priorities facing our City.


on September 17,2012 | 06:40AM
NITRO08 wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 07:16AM
loquaciousone wrote:
You want me to call you an ambulance?
on September 17,2012 | 07:24AM
mcc wrote:
We cannot afford it! The rail is wasting our tax dollars while our infrastructure crumbles. We have not taken care of our needs, water mains are bursting, roads are full of potholes, sewers are above ground now, our trash dump us filling fast with no alternatives, our University is falling apart, our public schools are in bad shape, etc., etc., etc.. Stop the needless spending and take care of what we have,
on September 17,2012 | 07:57AM
Mythman wrote:
They are selling bonds to fix the sewers. They can find any suckers to buy rail bonds so they tax the taxpayer, who is a sucker already.
on September 17,2012 | 08:55AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Again Nitro is about to blow up. Tell us, how do we pay for everything at the same time?
on September 17,2012 | 08:00AM
pakeheat wrote:
I believe NITRO08 is the same guy who was banned from SA forums on rail because of his name-calling, remember the guy a***7?
on September 17,2012 | 08:22AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Should we say goodbye now?
on September 17,2012 | 08:52AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Nitro said...WE NEED TO WORK ON ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS AT THE SAME TIME!

OK pal, next time you sitting on the porcelain throne, try eat some ice cream while brushing your hair and tying your shoe. Let me know how it turns out.


on September 17,2012 | 09:17AM
aomohoa wrote:
Hey, you said it better than me Maneki. LOL!
on September 17,2012 | 01:58PM
luvshawaii wrote:
Thanks for the laughs!!!
on September 17,2012 | 06:53PM
pakeheat wrote:
Actually Maneki_Neko, this is what actually happened, he forgot to lift the seat up before sitting on the porcelain throne, instead of eating ice cream he used it to comb his hair, and lastly he did tie his shoes but he got the shoes on the wrong side, LOL.
on September 17,2012 | 09:30PM
aomohoa wrote:
You sound like you are ready to explode Nitro. Are you going to blow up if you don't get your way.?
on September 17,2012 | 05:02PM
hawaiinui wrote:
Come on Nanakuli, obese people will be riding (along with the 10 other noncar owners) on the rail should it be built. So much said for exercise and fresh air. And what country was that you traveled to?...maybe the weight lose was the result from not eating the food (you know local boys need their fish and poi), and NOT the result of riding their EXTENSIVE (or was it EXPENSIVE) rail and subway. Walking, Nanskuli is how you loose weight, and not too many people will be walking to walk, to the doctor's, to school, to the store and back home. Not out live style, not our preferred method of transportation in a free Island government.
on September 17,2012 | 06:45AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 01:22PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
NanakuliBoss: Just like saying you live in Ewa Beach (no train station), you walk 7 miles to Waipahu then ride the train. Sounds nutty like macadamia nuts.
on September 17,2012 | 01:48PM
pakeheat wrote:
No NanakuliBoss, TOD is to live, walk, and work without catching rail, you almost got it, LOL.
on September 17,2012 | 09:32PM
McCully wrote:
Caldwell is the union's #1 puppet man. He will find other ways to support them using rail's tax money if rail is canceled.
on September 17,2012 | 07:06AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
If you like Mufi, you'll love Kirk. Come on peoples, we got Mufi booted - let's not put Mufi's best boy in office.
on September 17,2012 | 09:15AM
sleepingdog wrote:
If rail is now not that important to Caldwell, maybe we should just forget about it.
on September 17,2012 | 07:08AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Ha ha. Great point sleepingdog!
on September 17,2012 | 08:00AM
ready2go wrote:
It'll be interesting to see what Caldwell, the Unions and the big money developers put on TV and print against Ben. Another $1 million dollars? The TV and newspapers must be salivating! Big bucks are being bet on this mayor's race. Thank goodness for the State Supreme Court!
on September 17,2012 | 07:35AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Yes, this is the calm before the storm. John White and his PRP henchmen are going to bombard us with "Kim Kardashian" like ads but we're all ahead of you John. And.........we're not buying it (your ads and the rail).
on September 17,2012 | 08:02AM
luvshawaii wrote:
You got that right!
on September 17,2012 | 12:51PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
That's right. No one knows whether the public is buying into this because we NEVER had a vote on whether we were FOR or AGAINST this project. Altho Ben didn't get his majority
on September 17,2012 | 07:45AM
agile wrote:
Last Thurs. SA had a piece about 2 small Aiea businesses "bullied" by rail - their business property is needed for rail. If rail is in "suspension" how can city continue to take properties?
on September 17,2012 | 09:12AM
inverse wrote:
What is more important to a father; the well being of a daughter in obvious trouble or selfish political ambitions to gain more money and power? Some father's have no qualms throwing everyone, including their children, under the train.
on September 17,2012 | 09:45AM
loquaciousone wrote:
It seems like a more apropo picture to accompany this story is John White standing in an unemployment line rather than a fantasy picture of something that's never going to happen.
on September 17,2012 | 09:52AM
popaa wrote:
Just wondering but Caldwell said "while rail transit is an important issue, this election is about so much more"...public safety and protecting our people and their property, providing transportation to get people to and from work etc...... He was in the driver's seat at one time. Why wasn't all those things done then?
on September 17,2012 | 10:07AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
The beleaguered Rail Project increased the GE tax by 1/2% which all taxpayers pays now for either you benefit or not benefit from the rail. Most likely if the ridership fall short to meet the revenue to maintain the rail, more GE taxes or other form of public contribution will be imposed (i.e., property taxes, vehicle registration, sewers fees, etc...). Oahu population is not very large as compared to other mainland states and Asian countries so the ridership will be small. Most riders perhaps will be the existing bus riders, so the ridership growth will be the same. And the ridership growth expectation will not be as expected due to the limited sites station the very expensive proposed rail project will traverse: Ewa Beach, Mililani, Kaneohe, Hawaii Kai, to name a few will not be accommodated. The rail project will have two rails: to and from town. There will be no redundant rail track for fail over if a train breaks down that another train can traverse to pick up the pieces; most likely the passengers stay inside until its fix (hours), or get off the train and walk to the nearest station (and for disabled passengers ... imagine the consequences...).
on September 17,2012 | 10:22AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Of all the people duped by this rail scam, no one has been as badly burned as the Honolulu Mayor. Our last two, Mufi Hannemann and Peter Carlisle both ran on campaigns of fiscal responsibility and paying attention to the our dilapidated infrastructure. Within minutes of sitting in that Mayor's chair, they forgot all about sewers and potholes, and the people who voted for them because of their promises.

Instead, trip to Asia to look at trains, trips to Washington DC to talk about trains, and single-minded focus on building the most poorly designed and expensive gift to developers imaginable. Anyone who dared try to suggest that the route could be better, the technology more efficient, or the design cheaper was considered an enemy of the State, and invited to choose a shade of light blue for the station awning.

We've seen Mufi's formerly promising political career become a punchline and incumbent Peter Carlisle's star fade as he came in last in the three race for mayor, Kirk Caldwell suddenly feign interest in non-train issues just like Mufi and Peter did when they were running. Neil Abercrombie, in a remarkable display of political good judgement, seems to have forgotten there ever was such a thing as Honolulu rail project as he happily spends 10% of $4 billion dollars courtesy of the Oahu taxpayer.

One day soon, I hope our political leadership take a hard look at our unemployed former politicians realize that the rail interests have played them for the biggest suckers of all.
on September 17,2012 | 10:51AM
Allenk wrote:
The Mayor's office is a victim of the hard charging lobbying associated with the Pacific Resources Partnership.
on September 17,2012 | 10:58AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Yup, lobbying is a great strategy to win skewed contracts from a politician who like to shoved the project, like the rail, without proper EIS regarding Hawaiian Sacred Burials, etc...
on September 17,2012 | 11:20AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Yes Kalaheo1 - a political candidate running for today' mayor will be jinxed if it uses the beleaguered rail project in an attempt to capture more votes. Like those political losers in the past: Hannemann and Carlisle. Caldwall will be next if he fails to play his cards well; otherwise, supremacy group like White's PRP and other unions like HGEA will push Caldwell to support the rail more as he is know, in turn Caldwell will be heading off the cliffs.
on September 17,2012 | 11:09AM
luvshawaii wrote:
My thoughts on the rip-off also.
on September 17,2012 | 12:53PM
loquaciousone wrote:
KIRK'S TOP 10 PRIORITIES TO GET THE JOB DONE - - CLIK HEAR 1) ummmm wait 2) okay wait I got it now 3) wait what was it.... 4) what day is it? 5) yesterday? 6) today? 7) tomorrow? 8) wait ummmm I'm a little confused now.. 9) okay okay I got it now...wait 10) what? I'm out of time?
on September 17,2012 | 11:38AM
inverse wrote:
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on September 17,2012 | 02:23PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Respectfully, I think there is plenty wrong with this rail plan, and have a pretty easy decision for Mayor, but there is no reason to bring Mr Caldwell's daughter into it. I'm sure we all did things in our youth we might have chosen to do otherwise with more mature minds. We should all wish young Miss Caldwell a happy and successful time in college and hope she brings that solid education back here when she finishes.
on September 17,2012 | 02:48PM
wiliki wrote:
Carlisle's votes will go to Caldwell. Ben is too anti-rail and anti-our grandchildren's future.
on September 17,2012 | 02:53PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Wish upon a star.
on September 17,2012 | 04:52PM
luvshawaii wrote:
With Caldwell, we're up a creak! We'll be eating spam for the rest of our lives.
on September 17,2012 | 06:56PM
wiliki wrote:
Ben is hurting people in the leeward and central areas that need public transportation to commute to work in Honolulu.
on September 17,2012 | 03:08PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
wiliki - where are the facts supporting your claim?
on September 17,2012 | 03:27PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
wiliki - There are no proposed train stations in Ewa Beach, Waianae, Nanakuli, Miilini, Wahiawa, etc... People living on most of the Leeward and central areas will not benefit from the rail. Perhaps you expect them to drive to Waipahu or Kapolei train station look for a parking space if any, then ride the train to Honolulu. Or do the inconvenient bus transfers to get the train ride.
on September 17,2012 | 03:41PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
wiliki wrote: "Ben is hurting people in the leeward and central areas that need public transportation to commute to work in Honolulu."

Ben wasn't the one who made such a mess of our bus system. That was Peter Carlisle, Wayne Yoshioka and the rest of the city's rail all-star team.
on September 17,2012 | 05:09PM
luvshawaii wrote:
That is a big fat lie. That is pure propaganda!
on September 17,2012 | 06:57PM
pakeheat wrote:
sorry luvshawaii, wiliki has been brainwashed by drinking too much kool-aid, watching PRP and IMUA Rail Commericials 24-7, LOL.
on September 17,2012 | 09:35PM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
...to put a lot of money in a few pockets.
on September 17,2012 | 03:53PM
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