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If the election for mayor of the City and County of Honolulu were held today, who would you vote for?

Support is growing for rail and Caldwell, who favors the project, while Cayetano sees a dip in favorability

By B.J. Reyes

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LAST UPDATED: 12:18 p.m. HST, Oct 30, 2012


Kirk Caldwell for the first time has taken the lead in the campaign for Honolulu mayor, bolstered by shifting support for rail and a growing dislike for his challenger, Ben Cayetano, according to Hawaii Poll numbers released today.

The poll shows Caldwell, the pro-rail former city managing director, leading Cayetano, the two-term former governor and avowed rail opponent, by 53 percent to 42 percent. Five percent of poll participants said they did not know who they would vote for or refused to answer the question.

"It confirms the momentum I'm feeling out on the street every day as I wave, as I walk the communities all around this island — I'm getting a very, very positive response," Caldwell said. "At the end of the day, the only poll that really counts is the one on Election Day, although I'm very happy to see confirmation that I think momentum is in my favor. It just tells me we're doing all the right things."

The new poll numbers mark the first time Cayetano has trailed since he entered the race in January.

Cayetano was the top vote-getter in the August primary election with 44.7 percent, but fell short of the

50 percent majority needed to win the office outright. Caldwell was second with 29.4 percent and incumbent Mayor Peter Carlisle third with 25.1 percent.

“We don’t think the numbers are real,” Cayetano said of the poll results. “It’s hard to believe that there could be such a turnaround, but if there is, then it’s because of the weight of the (Pacific Resources Partnership) campaign and the Star-Advertiser editorials and all that.”

He also noted his campaign had not been airing ads for a few weeks, “and now we’re on the air again, so we’ll see what happens.”

The Hawaii Poll of 552 likely voters was conducted for the Star-Advertiser and Hawaii News Now by Ward Research Inc. of Honolulu. The survey via land line and cellphones was conducted Oct. 15 to 22 and has a margin of error of 4.2 percentage points.

Polling was completed the day Cayetano filed a libel lawsuit against Pacific Resources Partnership, which has spent more than $1 million in advertising against Cayetano.

The lawsuit accuses PRP and its associates of conducting a coordinated

campaign of push polls, television and radio advertisements, and fliers that falsely accuse the former governor of accepting illegal campaign contributions, giving government contracts in exchange for contributions, and keeping contributions for personal gain.

(Push polls, which are illegal in some states but not Hawaii, are phone calls made to voters that spread negative information about a candidate under the guise of collecting data for polling purposes.)

PRP is a partnership between the carpenters union and unionized construction companies in the state and is a strong supporter of the city’s $5.26 billion rail project.

“Our research showed that during the primary, the PRP ads might have cost me a win in the primary,” Caye­tano said. “So we have no reason to believe that the numbers weren’t affected in this particular case because PRP, they’re a very sophisticated organization.”

Cayetano has called on Caldwell to publicly denounce the attacks. Caldwell has declined, saying he does not want to give the appearance of illegally coordinating with a political action committee. Caldwell said with so many ads in the mayor’s race as well as other statewide and national races, it’s hard to tell what impact, if any, the PRP ads have had.

“At the end of the day, I think people are smart enough to sort through all these negative ads,” he said.

The PRP campaign alleges Cayetano accepted more than $500,000 in illegal campaign contributions in his last run for governor, and that donors received millions in nonbid government contracts. Cayetano has denied the allegation and the Campaign Spending Commission cleared him of any wrongdoing.

John White, PRP’s executive director, has said the group is simply calling attention to parts of Cayetano’s record that are in the public record. Other ads have focused on the pardons he issued as governor, while mailers have tried to tie him to the state Republican Party.

Becki Ward, president of Ward Research, said the ad campaign appears to have had an effect on both support for Cayetano and public support for rail.

The recent poll found 50 percent now say work should continue on the rail project, compared to 45 percent who say work should be stopped. The numbers are reversed from July, when 50 percent said work should stop versus 44 percent who said it should continue.

Cayetano’s favorability among voters has declined to 47 percent, compared with 56 percent in July and February. His unfavorable rating has risen to 48 percent, up from 38 percent in July and 35 percent in February.

The reverse has happened for Caldwell, with 60 percent of respondents viewing him as favorable, compared with 48 percent in July. His unfavorable rating was 31 percent compared with 37 percent in July. His rating was not taken in February.

Cayetano’s favorability even dropped among Fili­pino-Americans, to 56 percent, from 76 percent in July. His unfavorable rating among Filipinos was 41 percent, up from 22 percent three months ago. Caldwell’s favorable rating among Fili­pinos shot up to 62 percent from 44 percent in July. His unfavorable rating was

31 percent, compared with 43 percent in July. Despite the drop in Cayetano’s favorability, he still wins that demographic 51 percent to 44 percent.

The exit of Carlisle, the other pro-rail candidate in the race, was expected to result in added support for Caldwell, but Ward said the PRP ad campaign also appears to be increasing support for Caldwell and rail while taking support away from Cayetano.

“Pretty clearly to me it shows that the campaign by PRP is having an effect,” Ward said. “To see the horse race numbers with a gap like that and to see Cayetano’s unfavorable numbers spike up the way they did, to me it has to be the effect of that campaign.

“With his unfavorable spiking up, it seems to have moved to favorable for Caldwell. There are times when if one candidate loses some favor, it doesn’t necessarily transfer to the other candidate, but this time Caldwell really seems to be benefitting from that change.”

Some voters may have tuned out the ads.

Jason Kim, a cellphone sales representative from Moanalua, said he is supporting Caldwell because he supports the rail project, adding that the campaign ads have not affected his vote.

“I think the rail in itself is going to help traffic,” said Kim, 37. “Advertising, you have to look at it as advertising. They’re kind of smearing each other and I don’t really believe in that. I just think there’s way too much advertising in general. My major issue is the traffic right now.”

Retired Mililani teacher Barbara Ursal said the ads against Cayetano have affected her in the opposite way — they made her want to vote for the former governor.

“One of the things that really influenced me were these horrible, horrible ads against Cayetano,” said Ursal, 63. “The more I saw those the more I wanted to vote for Cayetano, because I felt he was really getting, it seemed to me, unfairly targeted as a person. It wasn’t on issues.”

The ads were only part of the reason. She also agrees with his position on rail.

“The more I found out about the rail the less pleased I was with the whole idea,” she added. “It seems like it’s an awful lot of money and it seems like it’s going to be really ugly and it’s going to be benefiting just part of the island.”






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MariaBetty wrote:
These poll numbers ought to galvanize Cayetano's grassroots for the real poll is on election day and TRUTH is our momentum to gain. PRP must not buy this election.
on October 28,2012 | 01:57AM
droid wrote:
Agreed. Wake up, people! This is a smear campaign. I wouldn’t be surprised if at the end of the day, the courts find there was coordination between the Caldwell camp and PRP. Is this how dirty we want it in Hawai‘i politics?
on October 28,2012 | 02:17AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
I voted for Ben!
on October 28,2012 | 02:25AM
OldDiver wrote:
Kirk Caldwell will move our city into the next century. Let's plan the future we want.
on October 28,2012 | 02:51AM
Truther wrote:
Is the next century full of despair and debt?
on October 28,2012 | 03:29AM
Truther wrote:

VOTE for BEN to stop the runaway train insanity and SAVE BILLIONS from being wasted on rail.

$10,000,000,000.00 and Counting.


on October 28,2012 | 03:36AM
what wrote:
Looks like PRP may have bought themselves this election. As I feared, millions of dollars of TV ads had an impact on Oahu's ignorant voters.
on October 28,2012 | 04:25AM
soshaljustic wrote:
Recall, a vote for Caldwell is a vote for the caldron of transportation evil! Remember this? "TheBus is taking a back seat to rail. At the May 3 Downtown Neighborhood Board meeting, an audience member asked city Transportation Director Wayne Yoshioka when we could expect the bus route cancellations and changes to be reversed. Mr. Yoshioka replied that the long-term plan is rail, and there is no plan to restore the service. Buses are overcrowded, seniors are relinquishing seats to other seniors, travel time will be lengthened as riders are forced to transfer and wait time between buses is extended. Since rail won’t be operational for several years, the dedicated, suffering bus riders will be left twisting in the wind. By the time rail arrives there won’t be any complaints about lack of seating, as riders will be used to not being able to sit on the buses." http://honoluluweekly.com/letters/2012/05/goodbye-bus-hello-rail/ The Cauldron of Evil plays cards with Yoshibai!!
on October 28,2012 | 06:10AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Anti's are calling Oahu voters ignorant? what,plz explain.
on October 28,2012 | 07:55AM
Malani wrote:
Wanna call Oahu voters ignorant voters? Everyone will find out how much power Oahu voters have in their fingers come voting day. Nothing like one having two feet stuck in their mouth.
on October 28,2012 | 08:45AM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Remember, we can't afford rail. And for every $7.7 million 36-seat Italian rail car we reject, we can buy dozens of state-of-the-art buses. And for every bus that is added to TheBus system, we remove 25 to 125 (depending upon the length of the route) cars from the roads, thereby doing something that the ill-conceived rail cannot do -- reducing congestion on our roads. VOTE BEN.
on October 28,2012 | 09:01AM
IMVHO wrote:
I don't believe acquiring more buses equates to the removal of cars from the roads. I don't ride TheBus because it will sit in traffic. The rail offers an opportunity to travel between point A and point B regardless of traffic congestion. That is the reason I would be willing to leave my car at home.
on October 28,2012 | 10:01AM
what wrote:
Keith_Rollman wrote:
This accounts for Ren's recent turn to negative ads and lawsuits...go out hissing and spitting.
on October 28,2012 | 07:25AM
Kapcity wrote:
We had that already during Cayetano as our Governor.
on October 28,2012 | 07:32AM
false wrote:
Wait till you see what you get with a puppet for a mayer. You find out just who will be calling the shots and it won't be him. PRP and the railer are using the people for "ignorant" . What a spin.
on October 28,2012 | 08:31AM
postmanx wrote:
YUP!
on October 28,2012 | 09:51AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Truther,you sound like a republican talking head.
on October 28,2012 | 10:02AM
soundofreason wrote:
i.e. logical
on October 28,2012 | 06:11PM
aomohoa wrote:
He sounds like someone who believes in the truth and does believe in being bought by corruption. NB we are ready have many unethical corrupt people like you that we need to be gotten out of politics and the affairs of our Island.
on October 28,2012 | 07:40PM
Oye_Como_Va wrote:
Aren't we supposed to be in the 21st Century already? When did we go back?
on October 29,2012 | 01:34AM
Venus1 wrote:
Yes!!!
on October 28,2012 | 04:55AM
rsgea wrote:
It looks like those of us who are against Rail need to increase our support of Ben Cayetano. I'm sending in another check for his campaign tomorrow.

STEP UP YOUR SUPPORT FOR BEN CAYETANO's CAMPAIGN

A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS NOW TO HELP BEN BECOME MAYOR WILL SAVE YOU MANY $THOUSANDS IN TAXES AND FEE INCREASES TO PAY FOR RAIL IN THE YEARS TO COME
on October 28,2012 | 05:06AM
itoboy wrote:
Save your money to help pay for Cayetano's double-decker roads.
on October 28,2012 | 08:42AM
Kapcity wrote:
You guys from Kailua and Hawaii Kai can do better than that, donate a million dollars each for Ben.
on October 28,2012 | 11:38AM
jomama wrote:
YELLING ain't gonna help. You lose.
on October 28,2012 | 04:32PM
BluesBreaker wrote:
Ben ran ads. His two ant-Kirk PACs ran ads. It wasn't ads, it was Kirk Caldwell's command of the issues and the voters belief that Kirk could more effectively address the many problems facing our island than some tired old man that had an axe to grind on one project. All of the anti-rail stuff that Cayetano spouted, along with his buddies, Clif, Panos and the Honolulu Weekly and Star-Advertiser columnists, did not work. Rail is now more popular than ever and Cayetano is losing badly in his race for mayor. Go Kirk!!!
on October 28,2012 | 05:44AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
Kirk Caldwell is part of the machine and the machine is going to be destroyed Nov 7 and you are out of a job as a paid blogger for PRP...!
on October 28,2012 | 07:31AM
false wrote:
Kirk one issue man. Rail to protect his buddies who will make big buck off of him. LOL
on October 28,2012 | 08:32AM
Eagle156 wrote:
Not true. Kirk Caldwell will move our city into bankruptcy
on October 28,2012 | 07:12AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
No he won't
on October 28,2012 | 07:26AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
yes he will both morally and financially!
on October 28,2012 | 08:06AM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Yes, he will. Caldwell is only interested in getting the job so he can give lucrative contracts to his handlers. He is not an honest person and I find it hard to believe anyone who is not being paid off or expects to be paid off would vote for him and his "pay for play" scam.
on October 28,2012 | 09:03AM
Grimbold wrote:
You are right Keith: Taxes will eat us alive instead !
on October 28,2012 | 12:52PM
Kapcity wrote:
Vioters are getting smarter now a days.
on October 28,2012 | 07:30AM
Malani wrote:
You are right he will move our city. Kirk will downgrade us even further.
on October 28,2012 | 08:03AM
false wrote:
Agree. He will move the City and County of Honolulu in to the next century of bankruptcy so lets plan for the future and elect someone else. Elect him and the persons who have contracts with the rail will be gaining big money. I hope people see right through these PRP adds that Caldwell although denies it is totaling connected to the people. THey are playing the people of Honolulu for stupid. I hope they don't fall for it.
on October 28,2012 | 08:29AM
allie wrote:
true
on October 28,2012 | 08:40AM
autumnrose wrote:
Jason Kim is the target LOW INFORMATION VOTER of PRP propaganda media campaign: He "thinks the RAIL in itself is going to help TRAFFIC.” Even rail promoter Sen. Don DelaCruz told Hon.Weekly that rail "is NOT the panacea for traffic." Council chair Ernie Martin calls rail "a traffic ALTERNATIVE." NO politician will go on record describing rail as the most cost-effective traffic SOLUTION -- unless he/she is not afraid of being accused of LYING. EVEN PRP's John D. White Jr will tell you that supporting rail is because this biggest PUBLIC WORK$ PROJECT allows transit oriented DEVELOPMENT: mixed-use high-density DEVELOPMENT around train stations. Hawaii Carpenters Union will get to hang all the drywall in the condo towers.... jobs jobs jobs ... while the biggest PROFIT$ are "penciled out" by developers banks realtors contractors engineers... all those voting for daRAIL for their $ELFI$H interest$$$
on October 28,2012 | 09:15AM
itoboy wrote:
And all the anti-rail supporters are angels?
on October 28,2012 | 11:01AM
Malani wrote:
wow, itoboy you finally got it.
on October 28,2012 | 02:55PM
aomohoa wrote:
The anti railers are trying to safe our Island the pro railers are all about money and making it through lies and deception.
on October 28,2012 | 04:41PM
aomohoa wrote:
Kind of like NYC or Hong Kong! I don't think this the the paradise people want.
on October 28,2012 | 12:30PM
aomohoa wrote:
What is that you want? To be like Hong Kong, Japan or NYC. The future of being like any other noisy ugly city. We are like no other place. This is paradise and we need to find a why to preserve the beauty.
on October 28,2012 | 07:34PM
cabot17 wrote:
I voted for Kirk!
on October 28,2012 | 08:09AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
My polls also shows, Pinr 91%......Berg.......2%........with 7%, still waiting for the tsunami. Wait, that was the Tsunami.
on October 28,2012 | 08:15AM
aomohoa wrote:
What poll? Your poll with 10 of your paid rail and developer friends.
on October 28,2012 | 04:42PM
wondermn1 wrote:
Mr. Ben cayetano has my VOTE : Go Ben Go
on October 28,2012 | 09:00AM
bobbob wrote:
i voted for ben earlier this year, but switched to caldwell. Ben's FAST plan is nothing more than an attempt to shut down rail and put nothing in its place. Nothing he is claiming to be able to do with the funds and getting federal money will get off the ground. With as much money that was spent already and lack of alternative, it should move forward. If anything to get the federal funds. If we run out of money at downtown, then stop the rail there.
on October 28,2012 | 12:35PM
aomohoa wrote:
The money was spend before it was even legally allowed too be . Shoved it through before it can be stopped! To do it for the fed funds is like saying "But I got it on Sale." You spend $10 billion to get 1.5 billion. It makes no sense.
on October 28,2012 | 04:45PM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
I don't believe this story!!!
on October 28,2012 | 02:31AM
HaoleGuy wrote:
You keep saying that all over the place, yet you read and comment on so much! Weird.
on October 28,2012 | 03:20AM
Truther wrote:
Phony poll and phony story.
on October 28,2012 | 03:31AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
The truth hurts. Ben's phony FAST Plan turned the voters against him. When it was compared to rail transit, it became apparent that Cayetano's was a sham that would do nothing to solve our transportation problems.
on October 28,2012 | 05:37AM
cabot17 wrote:
I agree. Ben's plan was obviously a phony sham.
on October 28,2012 | 08:12AM
Malani wrote:
BluesBreaker, Questions? Why would the people who live in Downtown Honolulu need a Rail? Why do the people who live on the East and Windward sides want to pay for a Rail they won't be using?
on October 28,2012 | 08:41AM
Anonymous wrote:
Maybe people want to go from downtown to ala moana in 5 minutes rather than the half an hour or more it takes to get there sometimes.
on October 28,2012 | 08:54AM
aomohoa wrote:
How would that happen with 20 tops. THINK. And the people on the West side will have their own mall. Who needs the over priced store at Ala Moana!
on October 28,2012 | 12:37PM
Malani wrote:
And no comment for those on the East and Windward side where the rail will not be running?
on October 28,2012 | 02:54PM
KeithHaugen wrote:
People are sucked in by the PRP millions of dollars in ads that attack Ben with lies and innuendoes and don't mention anything about the politically corrupt Kirk Caldwell, who will pay and pay and pay to John White and PRP forever, in exchange for the PRP funding his campaign.
on October 28,2012 | 09:05AM
itoboy wrote:
Malani - You represent Cayetano's supporters so well. This is exactly why your candidate is now behind in the polls. You only want something if it's going to benefit you directly and could care less about anyone else. No sense of basic values that make Hawaii so special - Aloha and 'Ohana. Keep talking, blogging, or whatever so you can do your candidate in even more.
on October 28,2012 | 10:17PM
aomohoa wrote:
SA would not know the truth if it was in front of them. They have been bought. People don't sell out the corruption of Caldwell and the rail! Wake up before it's too late.
on October 28,2012 | 12:35PM
Anonymous wrote:
FAST is a sham, and people are voting against him because they are finding that out. I voted for cayetano in the primary, but am voting against him come november. Fast cannot use the GET surcharge, will not qualify for federal money, and will result in even more money wasted breaking rail contracts on top of the money already spent for rail. I dont like rail, but it's already at the point where it should move forward. The time to cancel it was years ago. I suspect many feel the same way, hence the poll results.
on October 28,2012 | 03:44PM
aomohoa wrote:
What hurts is that we don't had an unbiased newspaper. We have one that has been bought by corruption!
on October 28,2012 | 04:47PM
Shh wrote:
newspaper and television news...all of it!
on October 29,2012 | 10:33AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
I don't believe YOU.
on October 28,2012 | 07:28AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
Don't - its an attempt at trying to buy the election!
on October 28,2012 | 07:32AM
Keone_Mikaele wrote:
This rail was not designed to be a "public transportation system" - It is an airport to West Oahu land development scheme.-- This is all about bring Asian investors to Hawaii for the next "Asia Investor Bubble"- mostly China, and getting them to dump their money into West Oahu Condos, Golf Courses, Casinos. --The local residents will quickly stop using the rail once they realize it takes them twice as long to get someplace, and that the rail stations are incredibly badly designed for "public transit"--_______Rail is really all about Dan Inouye's dream, with his big insider friends who will profit---for a an express railway from HNL to West Oahu land development schemes.---The Hawaii Public will be paying INCREASING TAXES to help big insiders get rich.-----That's why they needed to control the main "newspaper" to control the lies and propapganda. This is why there is the Public Land Development Corp, etc--- this is all a MASSIVE THEFT for land and money from the people of Hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:06PM
shoogz wrote:
Absolutely...As I have said in the past, this is not about transportation for the West Side, Rail was developed as a side show to make people believe it would solve traffic problems while hiding the real agenda. As Fred Rolfing stated, when developers and unions unite, the taxpayers are about to get fleeced big time.
on October 28,2012 | 12:57PM
aomohoa wrote:
Absolutely shoogz!
on October 28,2012 | 04:49PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
I just went to Vegas, where's the casino on the West side? Are you talking about the chicken fights?
on October 28,2012 | 02:58PM
aomohoa wrote:
Another stupid comment from NB. Why should people believe a paid rail id*#t??
on October 28,2012 | 04:50PM
Grimbold wrote:
NB Gambling is a foul childish activity andfor the ignorant who do not know it yet: the casino wins always.
on October 28,2012 | 06:15PM
bubbaButt wrote:
You sound like you're spouting off some kakameme conspiracy theory. Put the Kool Aid down, and stop hanging out with Jesse Ventura...
on November 4,2012 | 01:54PM
Shh wrote:
Agree, I believe it is phoney and again the people will be disgusted because we will know the votes were fixed!
on October 29,2012 | 10:32AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
I do not trust the Star Advertiser!!!
on October 28,2012 | 02:32AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
The sky is falling! Right.
on October 28,2012 | 07:57AM
Soledad wrote:
Malama, I noticed that you trusted the Star Advertiser when the poll numbers showed the opposite result in July.
on October 28,2012 | 09:48AM
aomohoa wrote:
SA is bought and you know it NB, just like you!
on October 28,2012 | 10:09AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Please send ME a check. I need to be bought.
on October 28,2012 | 11:50AM
aomohoa wrote:
I'm sure it's in the mail if Caldwell wins. He has sold his soul to a lot of people. Of course it won't be worth anything, because we will be bankrupt with the rail.
on October 28,2012 | 12:41PM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Read Dave Shapiro, Richard Borrecca, Cynthia Oi all of the S-A, and listen to Joe Moore of KHON-TV News. They see the Caldwell "pay for play" scam for what it is.
on October 28,2012 | 09:06AM
NITRO08 wrote:
STOP CRYING IT'S OVER GIVE IT UP!
on October 28,2012 | 11:08AM
aomohoa wrote:
NO IT'S NOT NITRO! See I can't appear as angry as you always do. Go take your meds!
on October 28,2012 | 12:43PM
Keone_Mikaele wrote:
This rail was not designed to be a "public transportation system" - It is an airport to West Oahu land development scheme.-- This is all about bring Asian investors to Hawaii for the next "Asia Investor Bubble"- mostly China, and getting them to dump their money into West Oahu Condos, Golf Courses, Casinos. --The local residents will quickly stop using the rail once they realize it takes them twice as long to get someplace, and that the rail stations are incredibly badly designed for "public transit"--_______Rail is really all about Dan Inouye's dream, with his big insider friends who will profit---for a an express railway from HNL to West Oahu land development schemes.---The Hawaii Public will be paying INCREASING TAXES to help big insiders get rich.-----That's why they needed to control the main "newspaper" to control the lies and propapganda. This is why there is the Public Land Development Corp, etc--- this is all a MASSIVE THEFT for land and money from the people of Hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:07PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Casinos???
on October 28,2012 | 03:01PM
aomohoa wrote:
You shouldn't trust the SA. They have been bought! Shame on them. They are over the top pro Union and Caldwell is owned by the Unions.
on October 28,2012 | 12:39PM
OldDiver wrote:
Time for Ben to take his half baked phony transportation plan to the retirement home.
on October 28,2012 | 02:47AM
peanutgallery wrote:
Put a cork in it OD. Find a meeting.
on October 28,2012 | 04:17AM
Venus1 wrote:
Ben is the 'Rear View Mirror'!!!!
on October 28,2012 | 04:56AM
soshaljustic wrote:
Caldwell's that ends well... because the city and county does not have enuf money for this pipe dream: recall Caldwell said. "creating an infrastructure that we redesign our city around," howya pay for dat? Cannot pay wat you have now!
on October 28,2012 | 06:25AM
Malani wrote:
And one day someone will be saying the same this to you OD, time for you to plan to the retirement home.
on October 28,2012 | 08:38AM
memo wrote:
Malani wrote: And one day someone will be saying the same this to you OD, time for you to plan to the retirement home., I thought OLD DRIVER was just that, TOO OLD TO DRIVE, that why he needed the train to take him to the retirement home.
on October 29,2012 | 09:10PM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Knowing that the John White/PRP PAC ads are all lies and intended to see "Pay for Play" Caldwell elected so White/PRP will be given hundreds of millions of dollars in "Pay for Play" rail contracts, I find it difficult to believe that voters on O`ahu would favor Caldwell, dishonesty, corruption, false advertising, pay for play, over Ben Cayetano, who came out of retirement as the champion of the common man. Caldwell is the puppet in the hands of White, and they are trying to prove that even otherwise honest people can be bought. I hope this will galvanize all the honest people in our town to vote for BEN CAYETANO.
on October 28,2012 | 08:59AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
Your self-righteous lying is obnoxious.
on October 28,2012 | 01:37PM
sidneyho wrote:
Ha ha name calling as usual
on October 28,2012 | 02:13PM
aomohoa wrote:
Your idea of self righteousness is is what the truth is about. Something you know nothing about Keith Rollman!
on October 28,2012 | 07:48PM
Oye_Como_Va wrote:
So if Caldwell wins he'll just say that the lawsuit had nothing to do with him and he can secure his hold on the historic home excusion for realestate tax and his daughter is home free at the mainland college toking on her bong that was in the Cayetano campaign sign photo. all the while he will be laughing all the way to the bank and John White will be set with Caldwell in his pocket.
on October 29,2012 | 01:33AM
rsgea wrote:
YES. And don't stop at just voting for Ben Cayetano.

SEND IN YOUR CHECKS TO SUPPORT HIS CAMPAIGN

MORE THAN EVER, WE NEED BEN and BEN NEEDS US
on October 28,2012 | 02:23AM
itoboy wrote:
Too late - Cayetano's true colors are out: single-issue candidate with no viable plan for Honolulu's future. Stuff more buses onto the already crowded roads; when it gets really bad, then build more roads including double-decker ones, and don't worry about the money now, we'll go hunt for it when the time comes; all I know is kill the rail." No, thank you. Please enjoy your retirement. We deserve better.
on October 28,2012 | 07:50AM
Malani wrote:
itoboy, because the issue of rail is the center of this coming election that does not mean Cayetano's agenda is completly rail. Ben has raised concerns and talked about the other issues facing the City. The dominate headlines always becomes the focal point of talk and the people knows this. Why do you think there is so much discussion in this room about rail? And if the City,s other issues were such a priority for Kirk why is it that UKUleleblue keep on cutting and pasting only the issue of RAIL for KIrk? Go think what true colors are about.
on October 28,2012 | 08:36AM
WizardOfMoa wrote:
Yes you tell him Malani...couldn't say it any better than you!
on October 28,2012 | 09:45AM
itoboy wrote:
Cayetano raises the "other" concerns because he has to. Unfortunately, he has no idea of what Honolulu needs. Otherwise, he would have come up with a better plan than stuff the roads with more buses and then build more roads including double-decker ones. If rail was not an issue, would Cayetano have come out of retirement to run for mayor? And since when does UKUleleblue speak for Kirk? It's like saying Truther speaking for Cayetano.
on October 28,2012 | 11:00AM
Malani wrote:
itoboy, How anyone can say that Ben Cayetano has no idea of what Honolulu need after being our Governor. As Governor you bet he knows full well how the City operates. Cayetano has stated many times he came out or retirement because of Rail. You bet UKUlele speaks for Kirk. Ben is against Rail and Kirk for Rail. Got the picture yet?
on October 28,2012 | 01:56PM
itoboy wrote:
You just admitted that Cayetano is a one issue candidate. Thank you for painting the picture. Cayetano's ridiculous plan to stuff the roadways with more buses and build double-decker roads so Honolulu can be more like LA shows he knows nothing about running Honolulu.
on October 28,2012 | 10:23PM
aomohoa wrote:
So the alternative is corruption and a $10 billion lie! Not a good option!
on October 28,2012 | 07:58PM
postmanx wrote:
The fix is in as I have not received a single pro Cayetano mailer at all.
on October 28,2012 | 09:51AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Seen a cayetano sign by the Waimanalo landfill. It said Rail would be paid for by 100% of Honolulu, but only benefit 15%! Just as Ariyoshi said, selfish. The sign should say 100% of Honolulu's dirty,filthy trash ends up in this Landfill but 15% will smell it and live with it. Auwe.
on October 28,2012 | 03:15PM
mito1 wrote:
My fellow citizen of Oahu, please continue to SUPPORT BEN CAYETANO. REMEMBER, HE IS FOR US. WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED THE LEADERSHIP OF CALDWELLL IF HE DOES HAVE WHEN HE WAS THE CITY MANAGING DIRECTOR AND ACTING MAYOR.......WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. Would you still want to bring back Caldwell as Mayor. Caldwellloves to be a mayor and he loves the mayor's job. That's a big difference between Caldwell and Cayetano. Caldwell loves to talk but CAYETANO IS A DOER. HE TALKS AND HE DELIVERS. PLEASE GO OUT AND VOTE FOR BEN CAYETANO.
on October 28,2012 | 10:42AM
frontman wrote:
Your bias poll isn't even close to what the voters are going to do.............worthless
on October 28,2012 | 11:54AM
Keone_Mikaele wrote:
This rail was not designed to be a "public transportation system" - It is an airport to West Oahu land development scheme.-- This is all about bring Asian investors to Hawaii for the next "Asia Investor Bubble"- mostly China, and getting them to dump their money into West Oahu Condos, Golf Courses, Casinos. --The local residents will quickly stop using the rail once they realize it takes them twice as long to get someplace, and that the rail stations are incredibly badly designed for "public transit"--_______Rail is really all about Dan Inouye's dream, with his big insider friends who will profit---for a an express railway from HNL to West Oahu land development schemes.---The Hawaii Public will be paying INCREASING TAXES to help big insiders get rich.-----That's why they needed to control the main "newspaper" to control the lies and propapganda. This is why there is the Public Land Development Corp, etc--- this is all a MASSIVE THEFT for land and money from the people of Hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:06PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Casinos??
on October 28,2012 | 03:00PM
frontman wrote:
Your bias poll is worthless.........vote Ben, Vote NO RAIL and save the taxpayers.
on October 28,2012 | 12:23PM
jomama wrote:
Pretty big silent majority that understands that our future depends on smart development from Honolulu to Kapolei, regardless of the Hawaii Kai and Kailua "I got mine" mentality. Take that, Boreccia and Shapiro.
on October 28,2012 | 04:30PM
star08 wrote:
The StarAdvertiser's voter guide is a piece of advertising shyyttte. It seems to be paid for by the candidates and consists of nothing more than politicos bios. No substantive discussion, no original writing - in short- fluff and puff. This newspaper does not deserve the name newspaper.
on October 28,2012 | 09:20PM
EducatedLocalBoy wrote:
I disagree with the article that Cayetano's support has weakened and that these poll numbers ought to galvanize his grassroots. I believe that Cayetano's poll numbers have remained the same since the primary election. In the primary election he had 44.7% of the vote. These poll numbers show Cayetano has 42% of the vote with a magin of error of 4%. Statistically, there is no difference in his numbers since the current numbers are within the margin of error. What I believe these numbers show is that Cayetano's support has stayed the same, while Caldwell has picked up Carlisle's supporters. This is understandable since Carlisle has endorsed Caldwell. These numbers also mirror the original vote on rail -- about 56% of Honolulu voters in the 2010 election voted in favor of rail and 44% voted against rail.
on October 29,2012 | 12:32PM
awahana wrote:
Coming from a past in a market research firm, I see major omissions in this report:
Who paid for this poll?
Where is the link to the entire poll questions, data, methodology and results.
Demographics of poll respondents.
The # of registered voters and the statistical relevance of this sample size of only 500. What happened to the quality reporting of yesteryear, when all of this was automatically included in any poll result being reported?! If you go look up old election poll reporting from 5 elections ago from the HSB or HA of past, you will be reminded of what true journalism was like.
on October 28,2012 | 02:27AM
HaoleGuy wrote:
Did you actually read the article?! It states nearly all of that info in there.
on October 28,2012 | 03:22AM
Truther wrote:
My poll results: 57% will vote Ben and 43% will for Caldwell. Ben wins, the people win, Oahu wins and rail loses.
on October 28,2012 | 03:59AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
How interesting... could you provide a link to that poll?
on October 28,2012 | 08:44AM
hilocal wrote:
HaoleGuy is correct. A small note of comfort to us Ben supporters: it's possible, too, that the poll results are in the 5% of times when they fall outside plus or minus the margins of error. We'll see on election night.
on October 28,2012 | 07:33AM
PCWarrior wrote:
I find this poll rather difficult to believe. How can support for rail be growing? Because the contingency fund is down to half with only a few pillars in the ground? Because the city has wasted millions by awarding contracts prematurely? Because the courts have stopped the project because of the iwi? Remember the SA also said Mufi would win Tulsi easily...
on October 28,2012 | 07:48AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Another blow to the republican agenda.
on October 28,2012 | 07:59AM
aomohoa wrote:
When Ben wins it will end your corrupt agenda!
on October 28,2012 | 10:10AM
Kapcity wrote:
And Ben will start his own.
on October 28,2012 | 11:36AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Ben will not win.
on October 28,2012 | 03:02PM
Grimbold wrote:
This Headline based on a badly executed poll was planned to erode fincial support for BEN.
on October 28,2012 | 12:56PM
Shh wrote:
because it was all fixed right from the beginning. Forcing Rail to the people and then starting the project when they weren't supposed to. Even down to the voting polls...All will be fixed!
on October 29,2012 | 10:37AM
tiki886 wrote:
Simply put...the exorbitant cost of the rail will eventually trickle down and increase the cost of rental housing and the cost of buying an existing home or a newly constructed home or a new condominium. It will increase the cost of pizza and Chinese food. Ask your professor how that is possible.
on October 28,2012 | 02:30AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
There are a lot of average locals who are struggling to own a house on Oahu. The only areas they can afford are on the west side and they are working two to three jobs to pay the mortgage. Because the affordable housing is far from downtown, they also have to suffer long commutes in congested traffic which diminishes their quality of life. Rail will provide jobs for more locals to own homes and also make the commute easier. Rail will take some cars off the road and people can ride the train if they don’t want to drive. The cost of the rail project has been structured such that our community can afford it. The feds are subsidizing $1.5 billion. Rail and transit oriented development will boost our economy so more people will have work. Why do some people want to deprive locals of having a better life? We are afraid that rich people, especially foreigners will squeeze us out. When housing is unaffordable, only rich people can live here. Rail will help the local people stay here and have a better life in the best place in the world.
on October 28,2012 | 03:09AM
Truther wrote:
I'll translate what uke blue is cut and pasting:

Rail is a con job, but as long as I keep getting paid by the word to blog for PRP then I support the con job.


on October 28,2012 | 03:28AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Voters didn't like the smear tactics leveled at Sen.Inouye by the anti's. Inouye is the greatest Senator that Hawaii has ever had. He bought the bacon home to our State. He is a war Hero! He is a true American! Republicans in this state really despise him, yet they would vote for a dino for mayor? Auwe
on October 28,2012 | 08:04AM
Grimbold wrote:
Instead of working for the common good of all Citizens Senators like DAN and others are like vultures each trying to get the biggest bite for their own state. Never mind USA goes bankrupt.
on October 28,2012 | 01:02PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
So you grim bold must be blogging from out of state. Arizona?
on October 28,2012 | 03:05PM
Grimbold wrote:
Nope , I just look at the whole picture.
on October 28,2012 | 06:17PM
itoboy wrote:
Oh yeah? Who do you think is bankrolling Cayetano? The Cab. Robert's Hawaii. Wouldn't be surprised if these special interest are paying for anti-rail bloggers here.
on October 28,2012 | 08:45AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
itoboy wrote: "Who do you think is bankrolling Cayetano? The Cab. Robert's Hawaii. Wouldn't be surprised if these special interest are paying for anti-rail bloggers here."

I LOVE this accusation. Do people really take taxicabs to and from work every day? Do you really think there would be one less taxicab ride A YEAR if the City goes ahead and builds a train from D R Horton's rich ag land to the mall?

I that's the best boogieman you can come up with, you should go back to accusing life-long democrat Ben Cayetano of being a tea-party republican.
on October 28,2012 | 10:13AM
itoboy wrote:
Not saying Cayetano is a tea-party republican - I'm just saying go look at his big contributors. Why are they spending so much money to defeat rail? Both candidates have special interests backing them. I agree with your statement that rail won't affect cab rides from Hoopili to the Mall. So then why is the Cab such a big opponent of rail? Maybe because it's the thought of the rail cutting into the airport business?
on October 28,2012 | 10:54AM
Malani wrote:
The Cab drivers need a job too. So they have a legit concern to not support Rail and if they want to contribute to Cayetano that is their right. Better to give to Cayetano than to Kirt.
on October 28,2012 | 02:00PM
geralddeheer wrote:
Your fear the rich comments are beyond condescension.
on October 28,2012 | 07:29AM
lastcrusader wrote:
Rail and its infrastructure will raise thier taxes and burden them...
on October 28,2012 | 08:15AM
Wazdat wrote:
Boo Hoo
on October 28,2012 | 12:00PM
Grimbold wrote:
More Locals in Kaneohe own homes than Immigrants, And their Property taxes will go up triple within 5 years, squeezing many out of home ownership, because of the money pit rail..
on October 28,2012 | 01:05PM
Malani wrote:
And more immigrants are building the biggest houses in Kaneohe with uku pile of cars in the front of them.
on October 28,2012 | 02:01PM
Grimbold wrote:
Malani: It is Illegal rentals in single family neighborhoods: in our street a bank executive from hawaii bought a big house and converted it into many rentals, There are from 8 to 12 cars parked in front, across the sidewalkside by side into the property, so nobody can park on the street. And the City is helpless to deal with it.
on October 28,2012 | 06:20PM
itoboy wrote:
Maybe if they had an alternative to driving they would have "uku pile of cars."
on October 28,2012 | 10:27PM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail will help average local residents so that they can live further out where housing is at a more affordable cost. We need to make the commute for average local middle class people in Kapolei and leeward communities easier to help their quality of life. Otherwise they will have to move away to the mainland. Give state income tax credits to middle and lower income people to offset the rail tax if necessary. The cost structure for rail is very fair with a large $1.55 billion federal subsidy to boost our economy with more jobs for locals. Don’t worry about property taxes. Property tax rates here are very low compared to the mainland such as Boston or New York. Also, renters should not worry about raised rents which is beyond their control. Landlords will charge what the market will bear and collect more profits rather than pass tax savings to renter. The important thing is for average locals to have jobs to pay for rent or mortgage. We need the $5.27 billion in construction activity from rail to provide the jobs and boost our economy so average locals can have jobs. Let’s keep the rail on track so our children and grandchildren can have jobs and stay here.
on October 29,2012 | 12:33AM
telestar wrote:
Really? There is nothing fiscally sound about this financing. We are already streched to the limit, locally and nationally. As for affordablity, every man, women, and child on this island will pay $5,000 per person for this project. The next ioghest cost project ever bulit in the Unites States is $179 for every man, women, and child. This equates to a cost of 28 times more!!! Good deal, I think not.
on October 28,2012 | 02:53PM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail opponents like to throw around the $5,500 average per resident general excise tax for rail based on its cost. But averages are misleading. People only pay GE tax according to their ability to spend. To pay $5,500 in half percent rail tax one has to spend $1.1 million. Most local residents are not rich enough to spend this much in order to pay $5,500 in GE tax for rail. Also, the GE taxes for rail we end up paying are even less since the federal government will be putting in $1.55 billion of the cost and that tourists and military who are not permanent residents also pay GE tax. We need the rail project and we are getting it a discount.
on October 29,2012 | 12:31AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Geez, Ukuleleblue, you have been posting this same garbage word for word over 10 times already.
on October 28,2012 | 11:11PM
Shh wrote:
OMG Ukuleleblue! Don't talk unless you really know the facts. You sound ignorant every time you claim to know Hawaii and it's people like the back of your hand. You must really be from the mainland.
on October 29,2012 | 10:39AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
Not true. The cost of housing responds to supply and demand in the housing market, which in turn is affected by the strength of the economy. There's no question that rail will increase the availability of housing by making it more convenient and less expensive to live in Leeward and West Oahu. More housing will be built as the transportation network between those areas and the employment center improves. Also, the direct investment of billions of dollars in the local economy will provide a huge economic boost. Underutilized resources, like unemployed workers and companies in a range of industries will become heavily used. Basic economics.
on October 28,2012 | 05:33AM
Grimbold wrote:
Write this down: I predict the real cost to the Taxpayers per rail ticket will exceed $10 .
on October 28,2012 | 12:58PM
localguy wrote:
Once again we look like the little 4th world we are, Hawaii Poll information not provided for review. As in who did you call in what areas of the island, did you keep track of ethnic groups to ensure matching island percentages, how many men and women were called, what time did you call, how did you call cell or land line, exactly how was the question worded. Yes, typical 4th world politics in the Nei. This is what we do, fail. No wonder the tourist come here, they think we are just like South Park.
on October 28,2012 | 02:42AM
Truther wrote:
My poll results: 57% will vote Ben and 43% will vote for Caldwell. Ben wins, the people win, Oahu wins and rail loses.
on October 28,2012 | 04:01AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Could you provide a ink to that poll please?
on October 28,2012 | 08:45AM
Keith_Rollman wrote:
He's hallucinating again.
on October 28,2012 | 01:39PM
Anonymous wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing the poll if it exists anywhere outside Truther's blinders.
on October 28,2012 | 03:07PM
BluesBreaker wrote:
Did you notice the number of participants in the poll? 552. Why the odd number? Reputable pollsters, like Ward Research, make sure that in their polls the proportion of respondents in each demographic category you mentioned matches the proportion of those groups in the voting population. They make extra calls to ensure they sample all of the groups proportionately for age, sex, geographical location, and ethnicity. If I were a rail opponents or a Cayetano supporter, I would be utterly dejected by this poll.
on October 28,2012 | 05:23AM
Malani wrote:
Ward Research called me. I asked who was doing this poll and was told Staradvertiser. Now there would have been no way Ward Research could have gotten my phone number. So am I right in saying they got it from Staradvertiser? After all we did register with SA.
on October 28,2012 | 08:23AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
Most public opinion research companies use numbers randomly generated by a computer program. You just got lucky.
on October 28,2012 | 07:09PM
itoboy wrote:
If you weren't called, your candidate would be even further behind. Auwe.
on October 28,2012 | 10:28PM
hipatty123 wrote:
I too do not believe this story- total bs.
on October 28,2012 | 02:42AM
Truther wrote:
Trust your instincts, vote for Ben to save Oahu from financial suicide.
on October 28,2012 | 04:22AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
If it were the other way around, you and all of the anti-railers would be crowing. Cayetano's FAST Plan gave voters and taxpayers something to which they could contrast and compare rail. Rail and Caldwell gained as a result. The editorial by the Star-Advertiser and the ads by Caldwell pointing out the differences in rail and Cayetano's scheme turned the tide, not PRP ads.
on October 28,2012 | 05:14AM
Dbung wrote:
Well said BluesBreaker!
on October 28,2012 | 07:17AM
itoboy wrote:
Couldn't have said it better.
on October 28,2012 | 08:45AM
Soledad wrote:
I agree BluesBreaker. The anti-railers actually did crow in July when the numbers from this same pollster were exactly the opposite. I also agree that it was not the PRP ads that made the difference. Voters are smarter than that.
on October 28,2012 | 09:58AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
BluesBreaker wrote: "The editorial by the Star-Advertiser and the ads by Caldwell pointing out the differences in rail and Cayetano's scheme turned the tide, not PRP ads."

So you agree that John White and PRP are wasting the union's money with their millions in nasty attack ads?
on October 28,2012 | 10:20AM
Keone_Mikaele wrote:
This rail was not designed to be a "public transportation system" - It is an airport to West Oahu land development scheme.-- This is all about bring Asian investors to Hawaii for the next "Asia Investor Bubble"- mostly China, and getting them to dump their money into West Oahu Condos, Golf Courses, Casinos. --The local residents will quickly stop using the rail once they realize it takes them twice as long to get someplace, and that the rail stations are incredibly badly designed for "public transit"--_______Rail is really all about Dan Inouye's dream, with his big insider friends who will profit---for a an express railway from HNL to West Oahu land development schemes.---The Hawaii Public will be paying INCREASING TAXES to help big insiders get rich.-----That's why they needed to control the main "newspaper" to control the lies and propapganda. This is why there is the Public Land Development Corp, etc--- this is all a MASSIVE THEFT for land and money from the people of Hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:07PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Casinos???
on October 28,2012 | 03:07PM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail is going to be the primary driver of our economy in creating new jobs for our average locals. Our future has to be with rail which will move the most people most efficiently as our population increases. We wasted a lot of time delaying our rail. Now it would be extremely foolish to stop the rail after all the effort to get it built after all these years. We have all the financing in place and structured such that we practically don't realize that the cost is being paid down. How many people notice the extra half percent tax when they buy anything? This portion of the general excise tax is designated for the rail and cannot be used for anything else. This is but a small price to pay as our share of the cost for a transportation infrastructure we need to better our future. Tourists and other non-permanent residents also pay general excise tax helping us pay for the rail. The big prize is the huge $1.55 billion that the federal government will kick in for the rail project which in effect discounts the cost to build. This is money that will be infused into our economy that we never had and with the multiplier effect will boost our gross state product substantially. We will see a much more vibrant economy with more development and more jobs so locals won’t have to move away. The rail will provide a great transportation alternative to getting stuck in clogged traffic anywhere within the narrow congested corridor between Kapolei and the downtown area. Killing the rail project at this point is absolute foolishness as we will lose a multitude of benefits. The federal funding will be lost and the money will go to other states. The collected rail general excise taxes may not be allowed for any other purpose. The rail construction and transit oriented development will provide billions of dollars in economic activity and with the multiplier effect our economy will prosper greatly. The smart thing for us to do is to build our needed rail system and enjoy riding a fast sleek new train with beautiful ocean and mountain views. Rail is the greenest mode of transportation which will help preserve our environment and our natural resources. We will have a world class transportation system while living in the best place in the world. When the rail is built, people will come and ride. The rail will primarily benefit the average middle class local who will ride but everyone will benefit from the improved economy.
on October 28,2012 | 02:54AM
Truther wrote:
I'll translate what uke blue is cut and pasting:

Rail is a con job, but as long as I keep getting paid by the word to blog for PRP then I support the con job.


on October 28,2012 | 03:28AM
Wahiawamauka wrote:
There goes the " average locals " comment again. Hilarious! You got to know this guy is not from here. LOL
on October 28,2012 | 05:39AM
RichardCory wrote:
Says a "Truther." How appropriate.
on October 28,2012 | 10:23AM
peanutgallery wrote:
Oh my UKU! bl;a bla bla bla bla bla.
on October 28,2012 | 04:17AM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Pay for Play Caldwell, newcomer/handler John White, and the corrupt PRP group will drive us into bankruptcy, then throw Caldwell to the wolves.
on October 28,2012 | 09:08AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail benefits everybody for the following reasons: 1) Rail provides a transportation alternative for those who cannot drive or do not wish to drive in traffic. 2) Rail provides a faster ride than buses through congested areas. Elevated rail has its own right-of-way and will not get stuck in clogged surface streets as buses. 3) Rail can carry a higher volume of people faster between any of the stops along its route. 4) When car drivers take the rail, there are less cars on the road which alleviates traffic congestion for other drivers. 5) Building the rail will create jobs and provide billions of dollars in economic activity. 6) The federal government will provide $1.55 billion of free rail subsidy which helps our economy. We should be committed to building the rail and be confident that we can afford it. Rail is a needed infrastructure which will help alleviate our traffic problem and stimulate our economy with sorely needed jobs. Build rail now for the future. Rail projects are always opposed when planned but never regretted after they are built. GO Rail GO!
on October 28,2012 | 03:00AM
Truther wrote:
I'll translate what uke blue is cut and pasting:

Rail is a con job, but as long as I keep getting paid by the word to blog for PRP then I support the con job.


on October 28,2012 | 03:28AM
soshaljustic wrote:
"Corporations are people, my friend… of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings, my friend." —Mitt Romney Guess you vote rethug too? You like support the PRP plan of the transit cauldron
on October 28,2012 | 08:00AM
inverse wrote:
My translation of blue uku's comments is even shorter than yours: UKU LIAR
on October 28,2012 | 08:57AM
Malani wrote:
And we all know where UKU's live.
on October 28,2012 | 02:05PM
dt44 wrote:
Sorry but rail does not benefit everybody. JMHO but I don't believe rail is the answer because of the cost and time to complete the project. Cost overruns are an inevitability here in Hawaii along with taking longer to build. Since they cite polls, why don't they do a more comprehensive poll of people on the West side of the island what they truly feel about the rail. More importantly, ask if they would actually use the rail and if they feel like the rail will alleviate the problem. Discount people who would benefit with jobs building the rail while you're at it. Ask if given a choice between rail and Cayetano's BRT, which one would they prefer? The construction of the rail will add to traffic congestion as well as create an eyesore to our Aina. Steel on steel rail?? Noise pollution?.The BRT as Ben says won't take half as long to implement nor cost as much. People want relief from traffic congestion sooner than later.
on October 28,2012 | 04:56AM
itoboy wrote:
Yeah and Cayetano's double-decker Nimitz Hwy is really pleasing to the eye. And because Cayetano is a magician, he can build his double-decker overnight without even knowing where he is going to get funding. Also, I forgot Cayetano is able to build roads that will be used by cars without noise pollution.
on October 28,2012 | 08:49AM
Anonymous wrote:
FAST is a sham, and people are voting against him because they are finding that out. I voted for cayetano in the primary, but am voting against him come november. Fast cannot use the GET surcharge, will not qualify for federal money, and will result in even more money wasted breaking rail contracts on top of the money already spent for rail. I dont like rail, but it's already at the point where it should move forward. The time to cancel it was years ago. I suspect many feel the same way, hence the poll results.,..
on October 28,2012 | 03:50PM
itoboy wrote:
This is one of the more balanced and well-thought out posts. Good job.
on October 28,2012 | 10:30PM
peanutgallery wrote:
Anyone but Kirk. Voted for BEN! If you believe this story, you still believe in the tooth fairy.
on October 28,2012 | 04:16AM
kumasachi wrote:
I was looking for Kirk Caldwell as a candidate under the heading for Dog Catcher and I couldn't find it so I vote for Ben Cayetano to be the next Mayor for the City and County of Honolulu.
on October 28,2012 | 06:28AM
Malani wrote:
We don't need a dog catcher anymore. The chickens took over but then they too fast for Kirt. He loses again.
on October 28,2012 | 08:18AM
PCWarrior wrote:
I voted for Ben too.
on October 28,2012 | 07:50AM
Truther wrote:
New poll results: 57% will vote Ben and 43% will vote for Caldwell. Ben wins, the people win, Oahu wins and rail loses.
on October 28,2012 | 04:24AM
Wahiawamauka wrote:
I say 52% for Ben and 48% for Caldwell.
on October 28,2012 | 05:34AM
Dbung wrote:
And we get more buses for the westside....yay...! What a solution to a problem....
on October 28,2012 | 07:31AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
If your poll has any statistic validity, I'm sure everyone would love to see a link so we can dig into the details.
on October 28,2012 | 08:46AM
Shh wrote:
That looks more like the truth.
on October 29,2012 | 10:43AM
Bdpapa wrote:
Voted already, this issue is done with me. Just waiting for the final tally. Good luck to all.
on October 28,2012 | 04:25AM
Venus1 wrote:
I voted early for Kirk!!!! I am pro rail!!!
on October 28,2012 | 04:54AM
Ken_Conklin wrote:
Those are the first two sentences you should speak when you go to your 12-step meeting.
on October 28,2012 | 05:17AM
Grimbold wrote:
I wished the prorailers would have to sign an affidavit that they would pay the deficit of running the money hole named rail.
on October 28,2012 | 06:23PM
honokai wrote:
That's a lot of movement in one particular ethnic community. Definitely something that is going to be studied if it is validated at the polls. Can you get this much movement out of just negative television ads?
on October 28,2012 | 05:24AM
Wahiawamauka wrote:
REMEMBER : THE ADVERTISER SAID MUFI WAS AHEAD OF TULSI GABBARD BY NEARLY 15% JUST TEN DAYS BEFORE THE PRIMARY ELECTION. YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT ? DON'T TRUST THIS BOGUS POLL. THE POWERS THAT BE ARE TRYING TO STEER THE ELECTION. VOTE FOR BEN.
on October 28,2012 | 05:31AM
Malani wrote:
Staradvertisers poll is printed in this paper. The voters poll will be at the voting booth and so who will the winner be? BEN Cayetano.
on October 28,2012 | 08:15AM
lastcrusader wrote:
The Star Advertiser is BIASED..why would anyone believe what they print?
on October 28,2012 | 08:19AM
itoboy wrote:
Actually, even according to SA, Tulsi had the momentum. Tulsi won it pulling away. Here, Cayetano was always the front-runner. Kirk started off in 3rd place behind Carlisle. Caldwho? Kirk barely got past Carlisle in the primary. So tell me who has momentum just 1 week out?
on October 28,2012 | 08:54AM
worldtraveler wrote:
A few months ago another Star-Ad poll had Mufi ahead of Tulsi 43 percent to 33 percent. Two weeks later the real poll ended up with Tulsi at 57 and Mufi, 32, representing a 30 percentage point error in the initial poll, conducted by the same Ward Research. The mayoral survey has zero credibility until we are informed about the script and sequence of questions: was it a push poll, such as “work on rail has continued for 3 years, spending 500 million with most contracts already signed on a project the city assures us will come in on time and on budget, helping Oahu’s traffic problem. Should this work on rail continue?” Unfortunately this poll does show the raw power of money to distort the truth, telling constant lies, spending perhaps 4 million versus 1 million – taking a good candidate’s strong points, honesty and integrity, and turning them around in the Karl Rove playbook right out of Alice in Wonderland to make them the choke point of a filthy campaign. Compounding the commercial impact of pure financial greed from special interests, public be damned, we have our biased newspaper publishing three major pro-rail essays during the period the poll was conducted, along with their open endorsements on the chosen candidate and rail issue. The tragedy of our new democracy-for-sale approach is that it seems to be working in a Brave New World of double-speak and illusionary media hype. Despite all of these powerful forces, the public still has the last word: will they allow our political process to be hijacked by special interests, or is there still some hope for America? Let’s see if this survey motivates the Cayetano supporters to get out and vote.
on October 28,2012 | 05:36AM
yhls wrote:
OldDiver, we will vote for Ben. May you sleep with the fishes.
on October 28,2012 | 06:03AM
jamie2 wrote:
The advertiser endorses Caldwell. In fact their endorsement is on the same page as this article. How can you believe this poll result. They probably made up the numbers. PRP and Caldwell hard at work. Haloes all working together to get their agenda through. Fight back Hawaiians and vote for Ben!
on October 28,2012 | 06:05AM
Onipaa1 wrote:
Haoles? Republicans? They live east side and no care for the locals on the west side. They no like pay for help the middle class locals. This is after we paid for the Kalanianaole widening and the H3 for the windward side.
on October 28,2012 | 10:29AM
Wazdat wrote:
The FEDS paid for 80% of those 2 roads that ANYONE can use. The west side needs a new freeway, roads, tunnel or bridge to town from ewa. SIMPLE. Rail will NOT HELP.
on October 28,2012 | 12:04PM
aomohoa wrote:
Sorry but I live on the Westside and you are wrong.
on October 28,2012 | 12:49PM
Malani wrote:
The entire working people of this Island, the Federal and State, paid for the Kalaninaole widening and the H3 which every people of this Island can use. Only the West side will benefit from the Rail which will not service the East and Windward sides which lots of middle class locals and non locals live. Wake up Onipaa1 you not the only person struggling to make ends meet.
on October 28,2012 | 02:19PM
itoboy wrote:
So there IS a benefit from the rail - it's just that you cannot reap the benefit, so better to kill it than let the anyone else have the benefit. Nice.
on October 28,2012 | 10:36PM
loquaciousone wrote:
PRP brought out the big guns in Dan Inouye and George Ariyoshi to slime Ben. It might work but at what cost? Dan and George will forever destroy their legacy by aligning themselves with John White and PRP. When you sleep with the fishes, you get wet. I personally have lost all respect for Dan who appeared in one of PRP's slime ads despite decades of public service for Hawaii. This is one of the dirtiest elections in Hawaii history and it is all due to the rail and the carpenters union who are willing to throw everyone under the bus for their million dollar contracts.
on October 28,2012 | 06:12AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Ariyoshi or Inouye did NOT smear Ben. They are intelligent seasoned politicians that see a clear future for Hawaii. Ariyoshi has done so much for Hawaii, even After he was retired! He has strengthen the ties between Hawaii and the Asian countries. He loves Hawaii. The other guy wrote a book.
on October 28,2012 | 08:11AM
itoboy wrote:
And whose bankrolling Cayetano? The problem is the huge corporations and Tea Party money have maxed out their contributions to Cayetano. They were hoping for 50 1 in the primary, so they spent all their money on the primary, leaving his campaign clamoring for money. Something tells me Cayetano's big contributors do not necessarily have the best interests of Hawaii in mind. There maybe some no-good people backing Kirk, but Cayetano's bunch are not all angels either.
on October 28,2012 | 08:59AM
Soledad wrote:
loquacious, you give PRP too much credit. Dan Inouye and George Ariyoshi are intelligent men and respected leaders in their own right. They won't do anything unless they personally believe in it. And they did not "slime" Ben. They merely stood up for what they believe.
on October 28,2012 | 10:07AM
Keone_Mikaele wrote:
This rail was not designed to be a "public transportation system" - It is an airport to West Oahu land development scheme.-- This is all about bring Asian investors to Hawaii for the next "Asia Investor Bubble"- mostly China, and getting them to dump their money into West Oahu Condos, Golf Courses, Casinos. --The local residents will quickly stop using the rail once they realize it takes them twice as long to get someplace, and that the rail stations are incredibly badly designed for "public transit"--_______Rail is really all about Dan Inouye's dream, with his big insider friends who will profit---for a an express railway from HNL to West Oahu land development schemes.---The Hawaii Public will be paying INCREASING TAXES to help big insiders get rich.-----That's why they needed to control the main "newspaper" to control the lies and propapganda. This is why there is the Public Land Development Corp, etc--- this is all a MASSIVE THEFT for land and money from the people of Hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:09PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Casinos???
on October 28,2012 | 03:22PM
Grimbold wrote:
Gambling is decadent and immoral.
on October 28,2012 | 06:24PM
loquaciousone wrote:
GREED has no limits as John White, PRP and the carpenter's union has demonstrated in this election year.
on October 28,2012 | 06:15AM
loquaciousone wrote:
GREED has no limits as John White, PRP and the carpenter's union has demonstrated in this election year.
on October 28,2012 | 06:15AM
Malani wrote:
Agree with your post loquaciousone. With GREED comes the love of money. And it is this LOVE of MONEY is the root of all evil. But then so many believe that evil is right and right is evil.
on October 28,2012 | 08:12AM
Onipaa1 wrote:
PRP and the contractors is us the locals. Our brothers, fathers, uncles, sons that are currently sitting on the bench unemployed. Come on rich people, spread the wealth.
on October 28,2012 | 10:33AM
Mana07 wrote:
It's so heartwarming that the dirty lying campaigning seemed to work. Geezz this stuff disgust me. The staradvertiser is for Caldwell so this is meant to tell you..."don't vo
on October 28,2012 | 06:25AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
you are correct - they are trying to buy the election!
on October 28,2012 | 07:33AM
false wrote:
UNION money wins again. When will we learn, throw UNION puppets out, and get a true Right to Work Law in Hawaii - our only hope for good new jobs, remember, we are now 50th, dead last, for making a living in the US, Money-rates.com - is new companies setting up business here. And, why would they now?
on October 28,2012 | 06:48AM
itoboy wrote:
And Cayetano's bankrollers are all angels?
on October 28,2012 | 09:00AM
kainalu wrote:
It's not about the rail. It's about the City and County of Honolulu.
on October 28,2012 | 06:49AM
Dbung wrote:
From the very beginning, even before the ads started I didn't support Cayetano. He had one platform that he was basing his campaign on and it was against rail. His alternatives does not help west side traffic congestion, flyovers, underpasses, widening lanes solutions are going to help the town congestion. What do we get on the westside?........ more buses.....ugh!
on October 28,2012 | 07:15AM
soundofreason wrote:
"He also noted his campaign had not been airing ads for a few weeks, “and now we’re on the air again, so we’ll see what happens.”<< Let 'em rip Ben - Get the LAST word in on all their accusations and let the truth be ringing in everyone's ears come voting day.
on October 28,2012 | 07:21AM
soundofreason wrote:
I use the "creed of responsibility" in making such decisions. Within that creed, is "the rule of C&C". (Condoms and Cayetano) Both will prevent you from getting something you never really asked for.
on October 28,2012 | 07:28AM
soundofreason wrote:
And DON'T let them get away with their 3 billion (now FIVE billion) dollar shell game they played on us. Make them ANSWER for how this all rolled out.

To refresh your memory, the question put to voters in 2008: “Shall the powers, duties and functions of the city, through its director of transportation services, include establishment of a steel wheel on steel rail transit system?”

Notice what the question wasn’t. To his credit, then-city councilmember Gary Okino wanted the ballot measure to be a more direct, yes-or-no, should we build a rail system question. Instead, what voters got was a lawyerly pretzel of prose in which the only operable verb was “include.” Read it again. The ballot question didn’t ask if rail should be established. At face value, the question, and its majority approval, did nothing but confirm that city transportation projects are a function of city government.

At best, putting such a question on the ballot was a waste of time. Of course, the city has the “power” to build rail. So what? The relevant question—should it build the current proposed project?—was not plainly asked.

Worse, it was a sham. As Honolulu Star-Bulletin reporter Laurie Au noted in 2008, even a “no” vote on that ballot measure, “would have [had] no legal power in stopping the city from continuing to build a mass transit system.”

Something to keep in mind when the city tells you rail was all your idea. reprinted from the HonoluluMagazine written by A. Kam Napier


on October 28,2012 | 07:32AM
bigbud808 wrote:
FIRE YOSHIOKA!!!! and NESTOR GARCIA!!!! and the city council members who are trying to steal the money ...in my opinion
on October 28,2012 | 07:33AM
paradisetax wrote:
This poll is dribble. This last minute attempt to get Caldwell elected at any cost says it all. Similar with Hirono/Hanabusa. Why does the SA always seem to know who and what is best for us. The SA endorsements are bogus.
on October 28,2012 | 07:35AM
polekasta wrote:
PRP and their fellow unions pay big money to try and convince voters to vote for Caldwell. What do they have to gain by having Caldwell become Honolulu's next mayor? Think about it. The rail is a multi-billion dollar project that will be under construction for 10, 15, maybe 20 years. That's millions, maybe billions of dollars made by the unions in the way of union dues. So lets see, PRP paying millions to have Caldwell elected. If elected, Caldwell plans to keep construction on rail going allowing PRP and other unions to collect millions in union dues. Like some of the other posters here say, That's the Ultimate Pay to Play scheme going on right now. And I thought Caldwell was against Pay to Play.
on October 28,2012 | 07:35AM
PCWarrior wrote:
SA had Mufi winning Tulsi easily a week before the election too. Rail support is growing? You have got to be kidding me.
on October 28,2012 | 07:52AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
yes they are kidding - Trick or Treat Ben will win!
on October 28,2012 | 08:09AM
itoboy wrote:
Yeah but SA correctly noted that Tulsi had the momentum. According to the SA, Mufi's lead was much larger earlier in the game. Like Tulsi, Kirk started out way behind. Kirk was in 3rd place and just managed to squeeze by in the primary. Cayetano was ahead from very early on until now. Who has momentum here?
on October 28,2012 | 09:09AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
you are right on Caldwell is the true "pay to play" candidate!
on October 28,2012 | 08:10AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
No " pay to play" was coined by Watada, for the cayetaNO admin. Don't use it for others.
on October 28,2012 | 10:12AM
itoboy wrote:
And Cayetano's double-decker roads won't cost a thing and will not require contractors. What do the Cab and Robert's Hawaii have to gain with Cayetano's win?
on October 28,2012 | 09:06AM
itoboy wrote:
Honolulu has voted in favor for rail on numerous occasions in the past. The polls released today are just a reflection of the silent majority. Just Do It! Cayetano is a single-issue candidate who doesn't even have a sound plan for Honolulu's transportation needs. Cayetano: "Add more buses to the already crowded roads and freeways; and when it gets really bad, we'll turn the road into a double-decker one; don't ask me how we are going to pay for my plan or what effect it will have on the area surrounding the double-decker road; all I know is that it's cheaper than rail." No, thank you, Mr. Cayetano. It's time for other options. Go ahead, Mr. Cayetano, search Kirk's record for skeletons (not PRPs, but Kirk's). You won't find any.
on October 28,2012 | 07:43AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
your comments speak louder then words - Ben Cayetano has no skeletons in his closet. Caldwell does with Mufi and other failed members of the machine. The truth will be reflected in the polls with a Cayetano victory amid the lies spread by PRP!
on October 28,2012 | 08:08AM
polekasta wrote:
To refresh your memory, the reason cayetano said he came out of retirement was not only to stop the rail, but because he couldn't sit around anymore waiting for the mayor to fix our crumbling infrastructure. Carlisle did nothing about it and focused only on rail. When Caldwell was acting mayor, he also did nothing but focus on rail. Only now Caldwell wants to do something about the sewers and roads.
on October 28,2012 | 11:51AM
polekasta wrote:
Cayetano has called on Caldwell to publicly denounce the attacks. Caldwell has declined, saying he does not want to give the appearance of illegally coordinating with a political action committee. How can making a statement saying that he doesn't condone those commercials against his opponent give the appearance that he's coordinating with a PAC. Caldwell can make a simple statement yet refuses to do because he'll take whatever he can to win against Cayetano.
on October 28,2012 | 07:47AM
Masami wrote:
"Like"
on October 28,2012 | 01:13PM
Malani wrote:
Staradvertiser, this is the Poll that will count, At the Polling booth. Your poll loses.
on October 28,2012 | 08:02AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Lots of nasty in here today, but I guess that shouldn't be surprising. I'm sure it will only get better when Cliff starts weighing in with his multiple copy and pastes.
on October 28,2012 | 08:18AM
itoboy wrote:
Yeah - it's how it is when the truth comes out.
on October 28,2012 | 09:02AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Ah, it seems he is posting with at least 2 of his screen names today.
on October 28,2012 | 04:31PM
inverse wrote:
July 29, 2012
Hawaii News Now/ Star Advertiser Poll. "According to the Hawaii News Now/Honolulu Star Advertiser Hawaii Poll, former Honolulu mayor Mufi Hannemann is still leading the Democratic primary race for the second congressional district with 43 percent. However, Honolulu city council member Tulsi Gabbard is within striking distance at 33 percent."

Union rank and file in Hawaii who support Cayetano are SMART; They do not respond to these survey calls because they know it might be their union leadship PRENTENDING To be an independent survey when in fact they are trying to find out which union members supports Cayetano, Lingle, Djou or any other candidates their Union bosses hate and despise. Union bosses can be vindictive and petty so rank and file KEEP Their mouth shut and their opinion to themselves and vote they way they want in the PRIVACY OF THE voting booth; which is NOT reflected in these INACCURATE phone survey polls by Ward Research
on October 28,2012 | 08:28AM
livealoha wrote:
I think that after the Supreme Court’s decision to halt rail until the burial studies are competed has lessened the threat so those who were on the fence or not educated about rail are not thinking about it as much. This time around they see rail as stopped and are looking for a Mayor not someone to stop rail. Cayetano needs to energize his base and get the word out that without him in office eventually rail will resuscitate and start again. Go Ben go!!!
on October 28,2012 | 08:56AM
Keone_Mikaele wrote:
This rail was not designed to be a "public transportation system" - It is an airport to West Oahu land development scheme.-- This is all about bring Asian investors to Hawaii for the next "Asia Investor Bubble"- mostly China, and getting them to dump their money into West Oahu Condos, Golf Courses, Casinos. --The local residents will quickly stop using the rail once they realize it takes them twice as long to get someplace, and that the rail stations are incredibly badly designed for "public transit"--_______Rail is really all about Dan Inouye's dream, with his big insider friends who will profit---for a an express railway from HNL to West Oahu land development schemes.---The Hawaii Public will be paying INCREASING TAXES to help big insiders get rich.-----That's why they needed to control the main "newspaper" to control the lies and propapganda. This is why there is the Public Land Development Corp, etc--- this is all a MASSIVE THEFT for land and money from the people of Hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:10PM
Malani wrote:
Keone, China has already stated in its commerical that America works for them. This is a wake up call from china.
on October 28,2012 | 02:26PM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
I suspect the combination of the relenless PRP ads have taken their toll. I also cannot help but think people looked at Ben's FAST proposal and kind of shook their head and began to ask themselves if this was really an alternative. I suggest there it is no coincidence that support for rail has increased as has Kirk's poll numbers AFTER the Cayetano alternative was published. I don't know how Ben turns this around. Kirk seems to have a better ground game going, he has more media, and by putting forth his alternative which people don't seem to like (come on taking out lanes in town, really) he dilutes his anit-rail message because his alternative is unacceptable. A lot of Cayetano true believers do not like the polls, but the fact that both the rail numbers and Kirk's poll numbers went up suggest that the polls reflect a trend in the electorate.
on October 28,2012 | 08:56AM
Wazdat wrote:
True. You either have COMMON SENSE or you dont, pretty SIMPLE. >p> I voted for BEN
on October 28,2012 | 12:12PM
Ewaduffer wrote:
Three votes for Ben from my family already sent in.
on October 28,2012 | 03:51PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
This is from Dave Shapiro's column, elsewhere in today's SA

Ben Cayetano sued Pacific Resource Partnership for misleading attack ads in his mayoral campaign, and his lawyer wondered if our future will be controlled by "big money for big lies." Only if the money and lies win the election.

He has a good point. If PRP and their super PAC funded smear campaign works, it will become a staple of Hawaii politics.
on October 28,2012 | 08:59AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
Ben Cayetano will be victorious and the rail will be taken care of and stopped by the federal lawsuit ad the burial council issue. The "machine" is soon to be out of business as usual!!!!
on October 28,2012 | 09:03AM
livealoha wrote:
I hope so!! I don't know one person who wants or will ride rail.
on October 28,2012 | 09:11AM
shoogz wrote:
This poll is no indication of who will win this election. But it does give the pro-rail SA a chance to glorify Caldwell who they endorse. If by chance Caldwell does win, it will only substantiate the ability for elections to be bought by special interests. That would be truly sad when money can buy this election by spreading lies and smearing a candidate. Cayetano is being smeared for one reason, so that special interest and unions can benefit on the backs of the taxpayers. For those Cayetano supporters, the fight goes on, if anything this poll should give you even more reason to fight back for what is right for the people. Ben clearly states that he is fighting for what is right for all taxpayers. He is not a one issue candidate like his opponents would like you to believe, if you attended any one of his forums, that would be clear and his priorities is to fix the city's infrastructure and whats restore fiscal responsibility to the City. A true leader should not be controlled by special interest or unions, thereby being able to make decisions based on what is best for the people and not one special group. If you want this City to be run by a candidate that has strings attached and will serve his special interest groups first ahead of the taxpayer, then you the taxpayer will be the loser. I was a former Caldwell supporter but no longer, Ben is obviously the best candidate for Mayor of this City that is why I support him.
on October 28,2012 | 09:06AM
Shh wrote:
hehe so true. Gives Caldwell voters the moment of glory from a Poll but when it comes to the real election, so many people will be voting for Ben. I'm sure the people of Hawaii will really be upset if they see otherwise because they will know the final votes were fixed.
on October 29,2012 | 10:51AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
"Jason Kim, a cellphone sales representative from Moanalua, said he is supporting Caldwell because he supports the rail project, adding that the campaign ads have not affected his vote. I think the rail in itself is going to help traffic,” said Kim, 37."

If Mr Kim is convinced that the rail is going to make traffic better than it is today, than all that advertising the City has done with our money HAS worked.
on October 28,2012 | 09:07AM
ejkorvette wrote:
The only difference between the candidates and what they will do for You, Honolulu Hawaii citizens is: NOTHING!!!!! They will Steal, Lie, Laugh in your Face, Deceive, Manipulate, and turn Honolulu into more of a Welfare State. Is that what you want? If so, then YIPPPPPEEEEEEE, YAHOOOOOOOOOO, LUCKY YOU LIVE HAWAII!!!! AWESOME, YAH? YAH?
on October 28,2012 | 09:09AM
Malani wrote:
And the same people vote the same people in. auwe!
on October 28,2012 | 02:28PM
LadyNinja wrote:
If you view things from a financial standpoint and want what is best for Honolulu, I support Kirk Caldwell. He offers a refreshing approach to the Mayor's office. While he is pro rail and I am not, Kirk brings the fact that he has, in the past, run the City when Mayor Carlise was out of town. While Cayetano offers a non-rail approach, the fact that he was a Governor, does not address many of the other issues that the City is facing, worries me should he get elected. Honolulu's Mayor does not have the time to teach and bring a new cabinet to the Mayor's face because we are facing a crisis in that we need a fresh and honest approach to the Mayor's office. Never mind the PRP and the other stuff, look beyond that and read the facts.
on October 28,2012 | 09:20AM
shoogz wrote:
Caldwell is no more than a Mufi clone. He has already shown what he could do as Managing Director for Mufi. Refreshing approach? Like forcing Rail down our throats and pushing on by awarding contracts prematurely and costing the taxpayers millions?..that kind of fiscal responsibility? Rail is going to drain the City's finances by costing 19% of the City's annual budget, that means the City's infrastructure is going to suffer. Caldwell will have to no recourse but to raise taxes even more in order to address these problems if rail gets built. As Governor he was in charge of a budget much larger the than the City. Teach his Cabinet the in order to face the crisis we are facing?...he has three Financial Department heads from past Mayor's administrations backing him along with other various department heads that have worked for the City and State in the past...short in experience?...I don't think so. He knows exactly what he needs to do to improve this City.
on October 28,2012 | 09:57AM
Masami wrote:
"Like"
on October 28,2012 | 01:16PM
Rapanui00 wrote:
I guess a two term governor doesn't have the experience to be mayor of a city - give me a break! A fresh and honest approach you mean a stooge for the unions and the PRP I think not. VOTE BEN and be a critical thinker!
on October 28,2012 | 10:11AM
Wazdat wrote:
Kirk was TERRIBBLE and did NOTHING.
on October 28,2012 | 12:13PM
5xcalibir2 wrote:
I worked for Cayetano. I will never forgive him for instituting the payroll lag which caused a lot of state employees who live paycheck to paycheck to "borrow from peter to pay paul" EVERY MONTH!!! NEVER AGGAIIN!!!!! Kiirk you got my vote.
on October 28,2012 | 09:34AM
Onipaa1 wrote:
People forget, Ben was the King of laying off workers, screwed our teachers and kids. Now he wants to do the same at the City. How is going to cut cost and still pay for all his plans. The city only has real property tax as its funding source. Road and sewers come from special funds, water bill and highway fund. Don't be dupped. The math doesn't add up.
on October 28,2012 | 10:42AM
Wazdat wrote:
Ignorance and no COMMON SENSE, that is the PROBLEM with hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:15PM
Malani wrote:
Lucy if there is any money left in the bank account when Ben becomes Mayor. We read everyday that the sewers, roads, etc need fixing. Well, if thats the case we got a sitting Mayor right now. Why aren't the people getting after him to do these repairs? Should he go scott free when he leaves Office after not fixing what need fixing?
on October 28,2012 | 02:32PM
niimi wrote:
I can't wait for Election Day. This is going to be GLORIOUS!
on October 28,2012 | 09:48AM
cslater wrote:
On July 30, the Star Advertiser wrote, “Former Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann holds a 43 percent-to-33 percent lead over City Councilwoman Tulsi Gabbard in the Demo¬cratic primary for the U.S. House 2nd District seat, the latest [Ward Research] Poll shows.” Only 15 days later, the Star Advertiser wrote: “Gabbard, the 31-year-old war veteran, had about 55 percent of the vote. Hannemann trailed with about 34 percent of the vote with nearly all the votes counted.” From being 10 percent behind in the poll, Tulsi won the race 15 days later by 21 percent. This kind of thing has a tendency to make us Star Advertiser readers a trifle cynical.
on October 28,2012 | 09:56AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
you are absolutely correct!
on October 28,2012 | 10:11AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Yes, like Tulsi, Caldwell is the new face of a leader running against the retired old school politician.
on October 28,2012 | 03:24PM
Wahiawamauka wrote:
Exactly. They are tryng to steer the election.
on October 28,2012 | 02:22PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Thank you Cliff. I had forgotten about Ward research's last go around with the SA's pick.
on October 28,2012 | 02:50PM
starripoff wrote:
Never planned to vote for either. But what's persuading me to vote for Cayetano IS the PRP ads. Not in my wildest dreams did I ever consider voting for Cayetano. I am not a fan. Personally he's an A** (even his own family admits it) but the bigger A** is PRP. I have not sent in my absentee ballot yet and I may be voting for mayor after all. Sorry Kirk, you're a nice guy but also a puppet of the unions.
on October 28,2012 | 09:57AM
agile wrote:
Can't help but wonder if the ads relating Ben's record of allowing the most pardons for criminals has something to do with the shift. That's the only ad that's different from the rest, so it would make sense.
on October 28,2012 | 10:09AM
shoogz wrote:
As far as pardons go, Ben was faced with prison over-crowding problem and had the most pardons recommended to him by the Attorney General, Hawaii Paroling Authority and other public safety officials than any other Governor in history, however, when you consider percentages into the equation, he had a lower rate of pardons percentage wise than any other Democratic Governor at 51%. So this ad was made to mislead the public.
on October 28,2012 | 10:26AM
Malani wrote:
Whats hard for those against to understand that it was the Attorney General and the Hawaii Paroling Authority along with other public safety officals who made the recommendation to the Governor besides the inmates request to the Governor? If these inmates were not qualified for the pardons they would still be sitting in their cells.
on October 28,2012 | 02:37PM
entrkn wrote:
Caldwell is the obvious chioce in this election...
on October 28,2012 | 10:15AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
yes if you are part of the "machine" - change is coming and Caldwell and his cronies are on their way out!!
on October 28,2012 | 10:38AM
NITRO08 wrote:
CORRECT BEN BACK TO RETIREMENT ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on October 28,2012 | 11:15AM
Macadamiamac wrote:
It has long been established that numbers lie and liars figure. You decide which applies here.
on October 28,2012 | 10:21AM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
The Star Advertiser is trying to control this election. I find it interesting that they should use the Filipino-American states to go against Cayetano. So how many of them were asked and did they purposely ask those in a certain location like on the West side? I really like the ad today that showed Kirk standing with Mufi the crook, who got us into this rail fiasco. That reminds us that Caldwell got nothing done then either.
on October 28,2012 | 10:34AM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
I meant Filipino-American stats...
on October 28,2012 | 10:35AM
NITRO08 wrote:
GIVE IT UP EVERYBODY STILL REMEMBER BEN WHEN HE WAS THE GOV NOT GOOD FOR HAWAII AND OAHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on October 28,2012 | 11:14AM
control wrote:
Always a conspiracy...Ive been downtown when ben supporters were.there, blocking bus stops, no less. Dispite the claims here, there was very little support, except for the trolley and tour bus operators...that should tell you alot.
on October 28,2012 | 10:35AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
You are simply flat out wrong in your facts!
on October 28,2012 | 10:51AM
BRock wrote:
Looks like some of the anti railers are getting desperate because they cannot handle the heat of bad news.
on October 28,2012 | 10:35AM
panepane wrote:
This story doesn't make sense. It seems like the news is trying to stir up more controversy. By it's own story of another poll, Cayetano is WAY in the lead: October 2012 62% (vs 4%) strongly agree that the rail project will end up costing a lot more than is currently estimated. 32% (vs 19%) strongly disagree that the jobs created will boost the economy so much that the cost of the project will be worth it. 33% (vs 20%) strongly disagree that the rail system will result in a noticeable reduction in traffic. 32% (vs 22%) strongly agree that an enhanced bus system is a better choice than rail. Margin of error = /- 4.2%
on October 28,2012 | 10:41AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
Yea you think?
on October 28,2012 | 10:51AM
NITRO08 wrote:
IT MAKE SENSE BEN ONLY COULD GET 44% OF THE VOTE THE LAST TIME THE OTHER TWO CANDIDATES COMBINE HAD OVER 50% THE PEOPLE WANT THE RAIL. GIVE IT UP BEN WILL LOSE!
on October 28,2012 | 11:12AM
Keone_Mikaele wrote:
This rail was not designed to be a "public transportation system" - It is an airport to West Oahu land development scheme.-- This is all about bring Asian investors to Hawaii for the next "Asia Investor Bubble"- mostly China, and getting them to dump their money into West Oahu Condos, Golf Courses, Casinos. --The local residents will quickly stop using the rail once they realize it takes them twice as long to get someplace, and that the rail stations are incredibly badly designed for "public transit"--_______Rail is really all about Dan Inouye's dream, with his big insider friends who will profit---for a an express railway from HNL to West Oahu land development schemes.---The Hawaii Public will be paying INCREASING TAXES to help big insiders get rich.-----That's why they needed to control the main "newspaper" to control the lies and propapganda. This is why there is the Public Land Development Corp, etc--- this is all a MASSIVE THEFT for land and money from the people of Hawaii.
on October 28,2012 | 12:11PM
NITRO08 wrote:
GIVE IT UP IT'S OVER.
on October 28,2012 | 12:58PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Casinos???
on October 28,2012 | 03:26PM
CriticalReader wrote:
"The Hawaii Poll of 552 likely voters was conducted for the Star-Advertiser and Hawaii News Now by Ward Research Inc. of Honolulu." The Staradvertiser is openly pro rail, so the words "conducted for the Star-Advertiser" are really something to really think about when considering the legitimacy or even accuracy of what's being reported here. Perusing the National poll stories, it appears that a trend seems to be partisan touting, under the guise of 'reporting", allegedly favorable poll results. The GOP surrogates in particular is actually going on the airwaves to publicize poll results, in a bizarre approach that seems to be, "look, we're winning! so vote for us!" The oveerall impact is a lessening of credibility in the media and what it portrays, as well as the informational value of polls (the newest business endeavor seems to be in start-up polling operations). Too bad. One more step to Idiocracy.
on October 28,2012 | 10:55AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
So the polls went south for Ben when FAST came out? " Hey,if that don't work, we'll try something else", and I quote.
on October 28,2012 | 11:58AM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
Interesting that my comment was just sent for approval by the SA. All I wrote was that this and the rail article was listed twice on the online newspaper to sway the voters. No foul language or anything...
on October 28,2012 | 11:00AM
NITRO08 wrote:
TURN OUT THE LIGHTS BEN IS DONE BACK TO RETIREMENT WHERE HE BELONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on October 28,2012 | 11:08AM
AndrewWalden wrote:
Push Polling Not Illegal in other states. FEC Prempts NH Push Polling Law: _________ http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=398172f0-4096-4c5a-8259-0d0925027c16
on October 28,2012 | 11:10AM
Kuniarr wrote:
True to predictions by the rail bloggers in this forum, the Carlisle rail voters in the Primary merged with the Caldwell rail voters. Cayetano has failed to entice Rail voters to vote for BRT. Cayetano's problem is that his F.A.S.T did not expand on the very thing that would overcome Rail - TRAFFIC RELIEF Eve anti-rail blogger in this forum are not aware that F.A.S.T means NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFIC. Not BRT but TRAFFIC RELIEF ON H1. Unless Cayetano's campaign and media team inform the public that F.A.S.T. means NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFI C ON H-1, Caldwell will be the next mayor of Oahu.
on October 28,2012 | 11:16AM
Kuniarr wrote:
CORRECTION: True to predictions by the rail bloggers in this forum, the Carlisle rail voters in the Primary merged with the Caldwell rail voters. Cayetano has failed to entice Rail voters to vote for BRT.

Cayetano's problem is that his F.A.S.T did not expand on the very thing that would overcome Rail - TRAFFIC RELIEF

Eve anti-rail blogger in this forum are not aware that F.A.S.T means NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFIC. Not BRT but TRAFFIC RELIEF ON H1.

Unless Cayetano's campaign and media team inform the public that F.A.S.T. means NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFI C ON H-1, Caldwell will be the next mayor of Oahu.


on October 28,2012 | 11:19AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
KuNO, stop correcting yourself all the time. It's condesending.
on October 28,2012 | 12:00PM
Kuniarr wrote:
KuliWhat's this baloney about "correcting" myself?

The 2nd blog contain the exact same words as the 1st blog except that the 2nd blog contains the word "CORRECTION":.

Got that, Kuli?
on October 28,2012 | 08:58PM
niimi wrote:
The same polling newspaper that said Mayor Hanemann would win--twice. Well, Mufi lost twice, and big. This race was already decided back in July against rail. So many Democrats are against rail, and we know where the Republicans stand in this matter already.
on October 28,2012 | 11:32AM
mcc wrote:
Nobody asked me and I voted for Cayetano!
on October 28,2012 | 11:54AM
2_centz wrote:
Yeah! I do remember the SA had Mufi ahead of Mazie then we know who did win. So I was concerned about the SA and the person responsible for conducting this poll. On Mufi and Mazie. NOW, I'm waiting to see the results and have to wait for the general election to be over. Should Ben win, then I'll know the SA is very biased.
on October 28,2012 | 11:55AM
Wazdat wrote:
Hahahaha. This is so funny, Kirk is that far ahead in the polls?? GIVE ME A BREAK, the SA is a JOKE.
on October 28,2012 | 11:56AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Also, with a halted project costing tens of millions of dollars a month and an army of PR people looking for real jobs, suddenly approval of the project dramatically improved. It doesn't make sense.
on October 28,2012 | 02:53PM
Kaleo744 wrote:
Are you think were that naive, come on B.J. talk about a slanted one sided trump up survey, by who? the pro rail people of course,you can say and come up wiith all these so called survey numbers and percentages but you cant fool the people we know whats going on. The survey was take by 500 so called independent people yea right!!! they probably all union workers waiting for their rail job that will pay peanuts to them while the mainlanders you guys bring in make the big bucks...what a scam...
on October 28,2012 | 12:18PM
aomohoa wrote:
550 people does not determine the results. SA is just trying to sway the gullible undecideds toward their candidate. I'm not impressed..
on October 28,2012 | 12:29PM
NITRO08 wrote:
IT'S OVER THE PEOPLE OF OAHU ALWAYS FAVORED THE RAIL!
on October 28,2012 | 12:57PM
Malani wrote:
What paper are you reading NITRO08? aah, I thought so. Somebody mis-printed that THE PEOPLE OF OAHU AWAYS FAVORED THE RAIL because in this forum I'm reading the opposite.
on October 28,2012 | 02:42PM
itoboy wrote:
That's the problem - you think the world revolves around this forum, East Honolulu, and Windward Oahu where "non locals and middle class locals live." Never mind everybody else.
on October 28,2012 | 10:42PM
honokai wrote:
Was at Aloun Farms today for the pumpkin festival. I am glad my kids got to see the farm land before it is gone. Thank you all for fighting so hard for what you believe in. Please don't be bullied. And remember, once it is gone it will never come back. On behalf of the next 50 generations of people of Hawaii --- THANK YOU! and God Bless!
on October 28,2012 | 12:39PM
Grimbold wrote:
Terrible if Caldwell gets elected. Of course he will be long gone when the financial blow of the rail costs hit the Taxpayers.
on October 28,2012 | 12:52PM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Wasn't it that SA survey predicted Mufi winning the election and yet he is history now at the losing end?
on October 28,2012 | 01:13PM
itoboy wrote:
The SA is not predicting the election. It's a snapshot in time. It's the momentum shift that's significant, especially when the shift occurs Ben came out with his double-decker freeway plan.
on October 28,2012 | 10:39PM
kispest wrote:
You can make numbers easily, I do not trust the Advertiser. Newspaper should not take sides, just report the news. GO BEN!
on October 28,2012 | 01:31PM
Nocturnal wrote:
I would vote for Kirk Caldwell.
on October 28,2012 | 01:57PM
Hapa wrote:
Please do not let this be True. The slanderous multi million dollar attack ads working? I supported rail when it was light rail, not the drastic concrete elevated Singapore model, with corridors of high rises. Do the union bosses not get that Ben's plan also has significant construction jobs for them? Everything Keith Haugen says I agree with. Go Ben Go!
on October 28,2012 | 02:05PM
Emjay wrote:
Looks like the Unions and Caldwell's dirty lies and half truths have done their job. Aren't you proud of yourself, Kirk, to have to win this way? Oahu will be bankrupt before that stupid train makes it to the airport, let alone Ala Moana! Hawaii has had it with smear campaigns ! That's not what ALOHA is all about. Like an Elevated train... leave it to the cities in the East!
on October 28,2012 | 02:48PM
Father_Brown wrote:
This is what $2 million buys you........SA, you endorsed Mufi, and now his pet monkey.
on October 28,2012 | 03:13PM
Kaumheimer wrote:
It's not over by a long shot...stay tuned.
on October 28,2012 | 07:04PM
pookiebear wrote:
Don't know where these numbers came from. My wife and I voted for Ben, and everyone I know voted for him, too. Go figure.
on October 28,2012 | 09:01PM
star08 wrote:
The StarAdvertiser's voter guide is a piece of advertising shyyttte. It seems to be paid for by the candidates and consists of nothing more than politicos bios. No substantive discussion, no original writing - in short- fluff and puff. This newspaper does not deserve the name newspaper.
on October 28,2012 | 09:19PM
codytreats wrote:
So this is what BIASED JOURNALISM and Polling looks like? I guess you shouldn't expect an unbiased story if the have endorsed Caldwell.
on October 29,2012 | 12:41AM
zatoichi1 wrote:
The change in favorability ratings is proof that the attack ads worked. Although the ads did not affect my opinion of either candidate (I know, like and respect both candidates) it is clear that the voters who have not paid close attention are making up their minds at this stage in the process. It should also be noted that Kirk Caldwell and the groups supporting him have greatly outspent Ben Cayetano. This is the case to the extent that the campaign spending by Cayetano has not reached the threshold needed to keep up with Kirk Caldwell. For the record, I am a strong supporter of Kirk Caldwell. I believe that he will a great job as mayor. As for Ben Cayetano, despite my obvious disagreement on this race, I respect what he has done in the past.
on October 29,2012 | 07:49AM