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Protestors decry HPD's return visit to Occupy Honolulu site

By Radley Kanda

LAST UPDATED: 03:30 p.m. HST, Feb 04, 2012

Police and city workers returned to the Occupy Honolulu camp at Thomas Square early this morning just two days after clearing personal belongings and arresting one protestor at the park.

The unannounced 2 a.m. visit was met by surprise and anger from the protestors, although no one was arrested or ticketed.

"It feels like we were robbed," said Matthew Guss, a University of Hawaii senior who joined the protest in November.

Despite repeated pleading from the protestors, Guss said city workers roughly shoved art installations into trash bins, damaging them in the process. "Now we have a whole bunch of broken art that we need to retrieve."

Personal items confiscated from city parks and sidewalks are taken to the Halawa baseyard where they are stored for 30 days. Unclaimed items are then either sold or destroyed.

Honolulu police Sgt. Lawrence Santos said the early morning cleaning was needed to ensure public safety and minimize the risk of slip-and-fall injuries at the park.

Items such as a sofa, table, signs and a bicycle were loaded onto two flatbed trucks while workers sprayed disinfectant then pressure-washed the sidewalk.

Cleaning efforts were not just aimed at the Occupy Honolulu encampment. Albert Tufono, deputy director of Parks and Recreation, said that the entire park was being inspected and cleaned.

A handful of tents remained set up on the sidewalk outside the park, though Tufono said the city could again tag protestors' personal items for removal come Monday.

"I'm not leaving," Guss said.

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bstnwhaler wrote:
Thank you HPD and other city workers for doing a great job! We love it and it makes our Hawaii beautiful again.
on February 4,2012 | 06:15AM
mcc wrote:
"It feels like we were robbed," said Matthew Guss, a University of Hawaii senior who joined the protest in November. No Matthew Guss, you do not belong there. You are not being robbed, you are breaking the law. Go to jail.
on February 4,2012 | 06:21AM
Vivgie wrote:
And take a bath ya stinky shameless hippies.
on February 4,2012 | 07:06AM
fishwrider wrote:
Think we need some "citizen patrols" to go down there and give these dead weights to society a dose of reality they'll never forget. Aurite.
on February 4,2012 | 08:36AM
Fred01 wrote:
Bring it on princess.
on February 4,2012 | 02:31PM
fishwrider wrote:
Anytime Fred, what time are you going to be there? Me and some of the posse will show you new meanings to the word "violation". Please respond.
on February 4,2012 | 03:44PM
Fred01 wrote:
Really, you need a posse to help you sexually assault one guy? Figures.
on February 4,2012 | 07:47PM
fishwrider wrote:
on February 4,2012 | 09:36PM
st1d wrote:
why is media attention given to ineffective unproductive narcissists.
on February 4,2012 | 06:27AM
allie wrote:
The tents were there at 7:30 this morning when I jogged in the park. Just a small group left.
on February 4,2012 | 07:50AM
islandsun wrote:
Most thought the movement was against corruption. Well, we have many corrupt entities here on Oahu and they have occupied none of these. Whats the point of occupying a park. They just look like more homeless folks. Move along.
on February 4,2012 | 06:44AM
Changalang wrote:
Walking distance to McDonald's and the dollar menu; but, they don't want their friends to see them eating poison, so they have to dine in the privacy of their tents for PR purposes.
on February 4,2012 | 08:11AM
islandsun wrote:
They risk being decertified by their parent group if they continue to occupy a park.
on February 4,2012 | 09:24AM
Graham wrote:
Boo-hoo. You were told not to retuirn. ..for supposedly smart people you guys are.....
on February 4,2012 | 07:04AM
stanislous wrote:
I would have more sympathy for your "occupy" movement if you were camped out down town or at the state capitol. After all, that's the people your suppose to be protesting.
on February 4,2012 | 07:16AM
Anonymous wrote:
@ stanislous: I agree. Go protest in front of the state capitol to get legislators to pay attention to you. The only people you are impacting at Thomas Square are the homeless (who live kinda like next door) and people driving past your corner. What is it you want of them? Go picket at the legislature and be heard....
on February 4,2012 | 07:34AM
aomohoa wrote:
Yeah! Why don't they go down instead of trashing our beautiful park? Any of those protesters want to answer that question for me?
on February 4,2012 | 07:40AM
stanislous wrote:
Oh, and another thing... you might get a lot more support if you conducted your protest like the "Tea Party" folks do. Respect the public, understandable purpose, civil, and leaving a rally site cleaner than you found it. What exactly are you "occupy" people protesting and what are you suggesting to change it anyway?
on February 4,2012 | 07:21AM
Anonymous wrote:
No one is stopping OH from protesting, but they must follow the laws like the rest of us and keep their art, furniture, tents, personal belongings and whatever OFF the sidewalks. Art belongs in a home, car, building....and if it is hauled away (after they were warned), whose fault is that? All they have to do is claim their items and put them away ( but not on the sidewalk or public place).
on February 4,2012 | 07:30AM
aomohoa wrote:
I wonder how Matthew Guss is doing in school if he wastes all his time protesting, since November, in Thomas Square?
on February 4,2012 | 07:37AM
st1d wrote:
probably has tenure
on February 4,2012 | 07:49AM
st1d wrote:
probably has tenure
on February 4,2012 | 07:50AM
Classic_59Chevy wrote:
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on February 4,2012 | 08:01AM
cojef wrote:
Federal Student Aid entitlement in action. Wasting our resources on these misfit from society, who will not wish to repay the loans. That's the essence, they hate themselves for having to subsist on the Federal funding. These misfit slander the honest student receiving aid who are busy acquiring an education. Let these misfit hoot and howl as no one is paying any attention to them. They are the scums of this earth and should be steamed cleaned and washed down the sewers like dead rats.
on February 4,2012 | 08:34AM
Fred01 wrote:
You are the scum of the earth, pig.
on February 4,2012 | 02:30PM
fishwrider wrote:
Fred, you ever squeal like a pig? Want to? See my post above. Thanks.
on February 4,2012 | 03:46PM
Fred01 wrote:
Sorry, I didn't have time to make it down to park today. But lets rendezvous at my office. I can probably help out your whole ignorant family, as long as you don't try to rape me.
on February 4,2012 | 08:50PM
fishwrider wrote:
excuses, excuses.......SCARED!! LOL...all mouth
on February 4,2012 | 09:37PM
tim5fl wrote:
Give it up,you have no support from the community.Good job city workers & HPD, Mr Guss needs 6 months in jail to think about his bad behavior.
on February 4,2012 | 07:47AM
Oahuan wrote:
Time for HPD to step up the enforcement and arrest some of these lawbreakers. Enough is enough!!!
on February 4,2012 | 07:48AM
Changalang wrote:
The Mayor must be bummed that he has to be distracted from his only priority; Rail. Remember the Prosecutor days? Can you handle a couple hippies in tents? Fail. Go Ben Go !
on February 4,2012 | 08:06AM
Changalang wrote:
The Mayor must be disappointed that he has to take his focus off his only priority; Rail. Remember the Prosecutor days and being champion of the people? Can't Honolulu Hale handle a few h!pp!es in tents? Miserable failure. Go Ben Go !
on February 4,2012 | 08:08AM
kainalu wrote:
These guys that are left are in denial. Even those of us that support the OWS movement recognize that these people have over-stayed their welcome. Now, these few that are left are actually dirtying the cause.
on February 4,2012 | 08:12AM
fishwrider wrote:
Think we need some "citizen patrols" to go down there and give these dead weights to society a dose of reality they'll never forget. Aurite.
on February 4,2012 | 08:35AM
ggum wrote:
Mahalo Al Tufuno, HPD and C&C for cleaning up are parks and making them safe, beautiful, appealing for the MAJORITY of Honolulu's citizens. How misled Mr. Guss must be to claim that he felt robbed... he robbed taxpayers for having to clean up the mess that he and his cohorts made. Will they pay to resod the grass and remove the junk that they have littered our parks with?
on February 4,2012 | 08:42AM
BlueDolphin53 wrote:
As I said early, 1% legit protesters, 99% freeloaders who haven't a clue. If they don't leave put them in jail.
on February 4,2012 | 08:46AM
Fred01 wrote:
You should be in jail for doing nothing and quietly allowing Hawaii and America to be sold to the highest bidder.
on February 4,2012 | 02:29PM
fishwrider wrote:
You should be in jail for being a failure in life. You want a dose of reality? What time are you going to be at Thomas Square?
on February 4,2012 | 03:47PM
Fred01 wrote:
on February 4,2012 | 04:56PM
fishwrider wrote:
Noticed you haven't left info on where we can find you. Typical. WINNING!!!!!
on February 4,2012 | 06:21PM
Fred01 wrote:
This comment has been deleted.
on February 4,2012 | 08:51PM
fishwrider wrote:
lol.....SCARED!!!!! Glad everyone got to see the "big man" you really are.....WINNING!!!!!
on February 4,2012 | 09:38PM
st1d wrote:
the owies are the epitome of systemic educational failure. filled for years with too much self esteem, they now have no respect for others and expect entitlements for just waking up each day. chronic failures.
on February 4,2012 | 09:03AM
9ronboz wrote:
charge these idiots for littering and tax payers hard earned $. if they are protesting the unfair business practices of the financial world then let them learn what useless protest on tax payers dollar can do to them!
on February 4,2012 | 09:20AM
Kuniarr wrote:
One of the Occupy Movement issues is the 99% and 1%. It is a tax issue that may be at the forefront in the 2012 presidential debate and election - the Warren Buffet rule. Billionaire Warren Buffet decried the fact that his entire office paid 33% and 41% in payroll and income taxes more than he does. This was further emphasized when Mitt Romney's tax return revealed that he earned $59,442 in one day more than the average American earned in one year ($35,000). Yet Romney paid a lower tax rate of 13.9% than many middle-class Americans. What Democrats and those who invoke the Buffet rule do not realize is that the framers of our Income Tax Laws deliberately made taxes on investment income lower than that on ordinary income for a reason that Democrats do not appear to recognize - the economic system of this US of A of ours is Capitalism which stands on a foundation built with capital investment. The framers of our Income Tax laws deliberately made taxes on investment income lower than ordinary income in order to lure and attract capital investment. Democrats seem also to forget that the tax on investment income although seemingly much lower is actually in effect in addition to the share of each stock in the corporate income tax paid by the corporation that issued a dividend on each stock.
on February 4,2012 | 09:51AM
smooshpappy wrote:
OWS has a legitimate message, all things considered. The local version is diluting that message by overstaying their welcome and disrespecting the law. They were given a long stay and chance to make their point. That's fair. But continuous "occupation" weakens their credibility. Not to mention, during their last stay, many of the tents cluttering the sidewalk were empty. Just for show. Time to move on.
on February 4,2012 | 10:22AM
Poidogs wrote:
Thanks to our great HPD officers and City Workers for doing this. Do it daily and they may get a message. Mahalo.
on February 4,2012 | 10:27AM
aomohoa wrote:
Honolulu Advertiser, stop giving them so much press and they will go away. These people are nobody. Their cause is worthless like they are.
on February 4,2012 | 11:31AM
Fred01 wrote:
All of you negative commentators who do not support this movement: YOU have no business living in Hawaii, or America. You are stupid and so out of touch with the problems that plague our economuy and society. Get out there and support this, or shut your fat mouths!
on February 4,2012 | 12:06PM
lee1957 wrote:
Third graders shoudn't be allowed to post.
on February 4,2012 | 12:52PM
nakamurak002 wrote:
OMG...I spit out my soda...lol
on February 4,2012 | 04:24PM
Fred01 wrote:
Mission accomplished!
on February 4,2012 | 08:59PM
fishwrider wrote:
no......you're still a loser
on February 4,2012 | 09:38PM
islandsun wrote:
Its hard to support an occupation of a PARK! Why arent you going to occupy some of the corrupt entities on the island, we have many or do I have to name the them for you. Get real...
on February 4,2012 | 12:57PM
Fred01 wrote:
Yes, and its your rotten baby boomer generation that has allowed all this to happen. Get lost.
on February 4,2012 | 02:15PM
islandsun wrote:
Fred you probably just came to the islands, so I will clue you in on another lead. Stadium park needs to be occupied.
on February 4,2012 | 02:59PM
Fred01 wrote:
As does Iolani Palace. Hawaii has a long history of stolen lands, and fools like you ignore it.
on February 4,2012 | 08:53PM
fishwrider wrote:
well at least he's ignoring you.
on February 4,2012 | 09:41PM
fishwrider wrote:
Fred is pretty chatty. Tell us what time you'll be at Thomas Square and we can discuss further. NOW.
on February 4,2012 | 03:48PM
poidogjohn wrote:
In 1951, at age 3, I lived at the end of Hotel Street, where the Straub emergency room entrance presently exists. My mom would take me to Thomas Square to play near the fountain and roll down the hill where a huge monkeypod tree was recently removed. From the park, we used to catch the electric bus on King Street to go downtown. Where the NBC concert hall now stands, you could see the windmill that Robert Louis Stevenson and King Kalakaua would sit near, conversing about topics pertinent to their time. I disagree with your "movement," in it's aimless, vision-lacking, disorganized form. Tell me how much I don't have any business in Hawaii, you uninformed, unnknowing fool.
on February 4,2012 | 01:49PM
Papakolea wrote:
Hi Fred, I am shutting my fat mouth because I'm too busy going to work where I make enough money to pay for my house, my taxes, my car, my food and everything else that I need. I'm not part of the richest 1% but through some education and working my way up the ladder, I'm able to live a very comfortable life. When I eventually retire, I'll do so comfortably and not have to rely on the government to support me. It took a lot of hard work and sacrifice but nobody ever promised me that it would be easy so I didn't expect that it would be. Isn't THAT what America is all about?
on February 4,2012 | 02:10PM
Fred01 wrote:
Hey Pappy, you obviously know nothing about the occupy movement, or the American economy. Funny, I actually am the 1%, here at work this Saturday. The occupy movement has nothing to do with government handouts -- its about corporate corruption. If you deny the corporate corruption that has taken down our economy, you are a fool. But then again, you were probably born before 1960, and have benefited by raping the next generation.
on February 4,2012 | 02:27PM
fishwrider wrote:
You're at work? Why are you farting around on the computer during work time. FAIL. You need to be taught a lesson you'll never forget.
on February 4,2012 | 03:50PM
Fred01 wrote:
Why? Because I choose to work. I do not punch a clock. Being one of them, I know the 1% far too well. Those of you in the 99% who do not support the OWS effort are fools. Those of us in the 1% who do not support it are also fools.
on February 4,2012 | 04:54PM
fishwrider wrote:
Too wordy and nothing to say. You still FAIL. LOL
on February 4,2012 | 06:23PM
Fred01 wrote:
Come see me, I will help you...as long as you promise to keep your raping posse away.
on February 4,2012 | 08:55PM
nakamurak002 wrote:
Fred, if its about greedy corporations then why picket the park? and why the F#$k the police sign?
on February 4,2012 | 04:35PM
Fred01 wrote:
Yes, I would prefer this demonstration on the steps of the Courts and Bank of Hawaii. Will you join and ensure certain arrest if OWS camps there?
on February 4,2012 | 08:57PM
fishwrider wrote:
on February 4,2012 | 09:38PM
Changalang wrote:
I just had a movement of my own. It was uniform and concise in shape and everyone who would witness it would recognize it for what it is. It is infinitely more valuable then your movement, because of those stark differences between my BM and your Occupy Movement. When I pressed the handle my movement went away. HPD just pushed the handle; bye bye. We don't care and want you people pulling your own weight, so we just have to carry our own weight. Anarchy is not as romantic when one ends up punking tricks in prison. Just ask revolutionary arsonists formally known as ELF. Every cell block has a Santa to run the workshop. The choice you have is to get violent enough to spark counter-measures, or assimilate into a society that thrives on law and order. Smoke grenades over the Whitehouse fence means all of you now have a DHS pro-file. Congrats. Who are the truly foolish here. Really.
on February 4,2012 | 04:50PM
st1d wrote:
@f red 1: again, the self esteem that your teachers and professors filled you with overwhelms what should be respect for others. your appeal for entitlements unearned and undeserved is the problem that plagues the economy and society. instead of trying to be the smartest person in the mirror, seek help. the voices you hear in your head are wrong. loud, but wrong.
on February 4,2012 | 02:23PM
fishwrider wrote:
How are you supporting them, by going in your tent and defecating on the sidewalk?
on February 4,2012 | 06:28PM
all_fed_up wrote:
I guess a painted cardboard sign constitutes "art" to some...
on February 4,2012 | 12:11PM
Arty wrote:
It's about time something was done to free the park so we can all enjoy it. I notice most of the occupiers have tech. tools like Mac books, iPads and iPhones on them, don't they want to occupy the apple store too? I believe apple is in business to make a profit so go give it to the "man."
on February 4,2012 | 12:55PM
Fred01 wrote:
Another stupid comment from someone who doesn't get it, and doesn't care.
on February 4,2012 | 02:28PM
fishwrider wrote:
Yes, your comment is stupid. You think differently? Let me know what time you'll be at Thomas Square and we can discuss.
on February 4,2012 | 03:51PM
Fred01 wrote:
Again, meet me in my office. I can help you. Just don't bring your posse of raping swine as you threaten.
on February 4,2012 | 08:58PM
fishwrider wrote:
lol.....what a COWARD you turned out to be...all MOUTH...WINNING!!!
on February 4,2012 | 09:39PM
Papakolea wrote:
I am not part of the richest 1%. I am a part of the 99%. But Occupy Honolulu does NOT represent me. My views are NOT in alignment with theirs and I am insulted that they would be so pretentious to claim that they represent me. I work hard for a living and I pay my taxes.
on February 4,2012 | 02:36PM
Fred01 wrote:
Are you saying they don't?
on February 4,2012 | 03:00PM
fishwrider wrote:
Stupid comment.
on February 4,2012 | 03:52PM
Fred01 wrote:
No, you are obviously stupid and uninformed.
on February 4,2012 | 04:47PM
fishwrider wrote:
No, you are ugly and uninformed. WINNING!!
on February 4,2012 | 06:24PM
Fred01 wrote:
You are a pretty princess.
on February 4,2012 | 07:44PM
fishwrider wrote:
you're still scared
on February 4,2012 | 09:39PM
nakamurak002 wrote:
I hope Buss isn't using public money to go to school. you don't like the law run for office and argue to change it. you dont like the way its enforced become a cop and experience that side... no I bet Guss wants to br an attorney so he can file lawsuits and get money....
on February 4,2012 | 04:12PM
soshaljustic wrote:
Fred, can you please provide a brief, one more time, on the protest movement and why we 99%ers should support it? Us old farts tend to forget, or simply forget that a protest movement should be sacred stuff in our society. Most people on this stream have forgotten Vietnam era protests, and cannot fathom the emergent need for OWS as one that would align itself with one as dire as a Vietnam protest movement where many people were dying. The photo's and news coverage was hitting their homes then and creating emotional terror. Now OWS does not have the same emotional tug, and dire consequences for people to rally around it! That has to be readily explained and communicated. Why it is important now and never before; How it affects people on a daily basis; What the prognosis is for our future if people do not get involved; When people get involved, they can expect to be figuratively shot down by?;Who are the major players;Where can people expect changes, and ask for change?
on February 4,2012 | 04:20PM
Fred01 wrote:
“Any attorney general, lawyer, bank director, judge, regulator or member of Congress who does not open their eyes to the abuse, ask pertinent questions and allow proper investigation and discovery,” he said, “is only assisting in the concealment of what may be the fraud of our lifetime.” http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/business/mortgage-tornado-warning-unheeded.html?_r=2&src=busln&pagewanted=all Wake up! This will make Vietnam look small when all is said and done.
on February 4,2012 | 04:49PM
fishwrider wrote:
That doesn't make sense. Go back to your tent and defecate on the sidewalk.
on February 4,2012 | 06:26PM
Waterman2 wrote:
Don't tell him that, he'll do it.
on February 4,2012 | 07:37PM
Fred01 wrote:
Of course it wouldn't make sense to poi brains like you. Try read the linked article. I'm sure you are too stupid to understand.
on February 4,2012 | 07:42PM
fishwrider wrote:
on February 4,2012 | 09:39PM
ejkorvette wrote:
ALOHA Honolulu! Where is your Aloha? Where is your objective opinion? True Additional Protesters should march on Honolulu Hale, and all of the Government buildings, Demanding Justice, Change for the better, and an End to Corruption from All Politicians. But that would mean jail time, since it would be Govt. Property. Unless they have a permit. The rest of the world is looking at Hawaii! The State of Hawaii and its Lawmakers are corrupt beyond change. The only way change will start is by Revolution, as quoted by a very Noteworthy American. Justice and Change denied, is Justice and Change Deferred!!! Anarchy will Reign when Government refuses to listen and take action. Get Ready!!!
on February 4,2012 | 05:23PM
Waterman2 wrote:
So start a revolution......I don't think you going to get much backup.
on February 4,2012 | 07:35PM
Fred01 wrote:
Really? This is Hawaii. Forget about stolen lands already just because you want to fit in?
on February 4,2012 | 08:59PM
fishwrider wrote:
You can go to Hula's...lot of your type there to back you up....not that there is anything wrong with that. Thanks.
on February 4,2012 | 09:44PM
Changalang wrote:
All joking aside, Hawaii is the most corrupt State in the nation with corporatism and big government intertwined in century old cabals cemented in marriages based on Hawaiian Monarchy and first businesses. It is the one party state. Gun crimes are severely punished in the Court system. The low violent crime rate contributes to the appeal of global investors. Foreign gov'ts wash so much money through our commercial and high end residential real estate sales that it is the bedrock of our island economy coupled with illegal gambling daily cash flow. The official tourist economy is nice to have as well. The global 1% hide their money here because of Hawaii's record of law and order from top on down.
on February 4,2012 | 09:54PM
Changalang wrote:
(cont) The nail that stands out gets the hammer here. People got tired of looking at you guys, or the wrong person said something to the right network link. You guys got sent packing and it will escalate from law enforcement and gov't officials. Bump it up on the violence scale and law enforcement would snuff it so fast, have leadership identified, and tucked in before breakfast. Many HPD are combat vet Guardsman now. The neighborhoods are saturated by CID response teams. It is an island and everybody knows somebody, and who the real troublemakers are. If Occupy threatened the money supply, then it would be over in 24 hours. No sympathy from the public either. Anarchy in Hawaii is a dead end. Fantasy vs. reality. Time to grow up and do the best with what you got like everybody else in the State. Enjoy the weather, at least that is free. Hawaii doesn't like embarrassing public confrontation. Many idealists would be shocked to know how many people go missing in Hawaii. Just ask the fish. Not a threat, just a little known fact. Fred, if you could channel that passionate intellect into improving your individual situation; you will be a much happier guy in a decade or so. Anger without a destination has no good outcome. Peace out. Real change comes from the inside out; subvert the system from within with intellect, power, influence, and money to make it better. Visionary over revolutionary.
on February 4,2012 | 10:03PM
Maunawiliboy wrote:
Get a job...go occupy hau bush and see what happens...
on February 4,2012 | 06:02PM
Fred01 wrote:
Precisely the problem. Folks can't get a job because of the powers that be. Another out-of-touch dingbat.
on February 4,2012 | 09:02PM
fishwrider wrote:
you're out of touch and ugly to boot,
on February 4,2012 | 09:40PM
islandsun wrote:
Has anyone checked this group's credentials? Seems to me they might have been decertified by the main occupy movement because they only occupy parks instead of corrupt entities.
on February 4,2012 | 06:51PM
Waterman2 wrote:
No, Matthew, you are roving us. Get out of our park !
on February 4,2012 | 07:33PM
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