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Rule could leave child-support debtors no income

By Daniel Wagner

AP Business Writer

POSTED: 05:05 a.m. HST, Feb 27, 2012
LAST UPDATED: 05:15 a.m. HST, Feb 27, 2012

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WASHINGTON >> Old child support debts could cost thousands of poor men their only income next year because of a policy aimed at reducing the cost to the government of mailing paper checks to pay federal benefits.

The Treasury Department will start paying benefits electronically next March. It will stop issuing the paper checks that many people rely on to safeguard a portion of their benefits from states trying to collect back child support.

States can freeze the bank accounts of people who owe child support. A separate Treasury Department rule, in place since last May in a preliminary form, guarantees them the power to freeze Social Security, disability and veterans' benefits that have been deposited into those accounts.

Once paper checks are eliminated, about 275,000 people could lose access to all of their income, advocates say.

"It's kind of Orwellian, what's being set up here for a segment of the population," says Johnson Tyler, an attorney who represents poor and disabled people collecting federal benefits. "It's going to be a nightmare in about a year unless something changes."

In many cases, the bills are decades old and the children long grown. Much of the money owed is interest and fees that add up when men are unable to pay because they are disabled, institutionalized or imprisoned.

Most of the money will go to governments, not to the children of the men with child support debts, independent analyses show. States are allowed to keep child support money as repayment for welfare previously provided for those children.

In some instances, the grown children are supporting their fathers.

The rule change illustrates how a politically desirable goal like cracking down on so-called deadbeat dads can have complicated, even counterproductive, effects in practice.

"The rule doesn't look at the fact that the money is mostly interest, the money is going to the state, the kids are usually adults, and it's leaving the payer with nothing," says Ashlee Highland, a legal aid attorney who works with the poor of Chicago.

Highland says her office has clients in eviction, in foreclosure and unable to pay their bills because of states' aggressive efforts to collect back child support.

Marcial Herrera, 44, has had his bank account frozen repeatedly since 2009, blocking his access to $800 a month in government benefits. Unable to work because of a severe back injury he suffered in 2000, Herrera fell behind on child support. He owes more than $7,000 — not to his 22-year-old son, but to the state of New York, because his son received welfare years earlier.

Herrera sought help in court and had his son speak on his behalf, but the judge could not erase the thousands he already owed.

"I'm just waiting for them to lock me up," he says. "I don't see no other way of me repaying that debt."

A legal aid attorney suggested Herrera collect his benefits by paper check. It costs him $15 to cash the check each month, but at least he can be sure that he will have money to pay his bills.

States have had the ability to freeze accounts for years. That's why people like Herrera rely on paper checks to safeguard part of their income.

Starting next March, that option will disappear. The Treasury Department will deposit federal benefits directly into bank accounts or load them onto prepaid debit cards. Either way, state child support agencies will be able to seize all of it.

Electronic payments are expected to save the government $1 billion over the next 10 years, the Treasury Department says. It costs the government about $1 to mail a check, compared with about 10 cents for an electronic transfer.

The Treasury Department understands that forcing people into direct deposit could deprive them of all of their income, say officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the rule-writing process.

States can garnish only 65 percent of benefits before the federal government sends them out. But the limit does not apply once the money is in an account and states ask banks to freeze it, according to a Treasury Department memo obtained by The Associated Press.

A Treasury spokesman declined to discuss the policy. The officials who spoke on condition of anonymity say they believe the policy is legally unavoidable. They described a dilemma: Restrain states trying to collect child-support debts or risk depriving thousands of people of their only income.

Treasury's legal justification assumes that receiving a paper check is still an option, says Tyler, the Brooklyn attorney.

Letting state agencies seize the money contradicts the public stance of the Department of Health and Human Services, the federal agency in charge of child support collections. The department does not want states to collect child support so aggressively that poor people lose their only income, spokesman Ken Wolfe says.

"Child support enforcement — getting that money and passing it on to parents and children — is a measure to fight poverty, and it doesn't make sense to accomplish that by impoverishing somebody else," he says.

Wolfe said HHS is developing guidelines for states to "make sure we're not putting someone into deep poverty as a result of an automatic collection." He declined to provide details of those plans.

Lawyers from HHS agreed with Treasury's decision to let states seize benefits, according to the Treasury memo.

An early version of the Treasury department rule protected people from having their federal benefits frozen by debt collectors — including private collection agencies and states seeking back child support.

State child support agencies replied in public comments on the proposed rule that blocking their access to people's benefits would cause great harm to parents and children receiving child support.

HHS research suggests the policy could deepen the hardship for people who collect benefits as well.

People who owe large amounts of child support are almost universally poor. Among those owing $30,000 or more, three-fourths had no reported income or income of less than $10,000, HHS says. Many had their earnings interrupted by disability or jail time and are unlikely to repay the child support debt, the government-sponsored research says.

The usual methods of collecting back child support often don't work with the poor. States typically start by garnishing wages. If that doesn't work, they can suspend driver's licenses, revoke passports and take away professional credentials.

Those measures have little effect on poor people without jobs who rely on federal benefits. They have no wages to garnish and no passports. Many can't afford a car and do not need a driver's license.

State child support agencies echo the HHS view that child support enforcement should not be so draconian that people end up with nothing.

"You don't want the noncustodial parent to go out and be living on the streets. You're not going to collect anything at that point," says Tom Shanahan, spokesman for the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare.

The Idaho department requires people who owe child support to show good faith by paying a minimum amount and seeking jobs when they are out of work, Shanahan says.

The White House is reviewing the final version of the rule. Its impact so far has been limited, legal-aid lawyers say, because people can still use paper checks. A White House spokeswoman did not respond a request for comment.

In a letter sent last week, the National Consumer Law Center and dozens of other groups called on the head of the Social Security Administration to withdraw his support for the rule.

"While both current and past due child support orders should be paid," the letter said, it should not result "in the complete impoverishment of recipients" of federal benefits.

The issue has failed to raise alarm in part because most people feel little in common with men labeled deadbeat dads, says John Vail, an attorney with the Center for Constitutional Litigation who provided legal services for the poor for decades.

"There's not a lot of sympathy for deadbeat dads, and justly so," Vail says. "But everybody's got limits, and I think people who have never walked a mile in some of those old, worn-out shoes are a little quick to rush to judgment about what that life might be like."

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AP Business Writer Christina Rexrode contributed to this report.






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kauakea wrote:
They should do like the IRS does, make the person fill out a financial statement to show the ability to pay. If they can pay, they should. I think shutting off the paper checks is a good idea because it flushes people out and into the light of the system. They did owe the money and, in some cases, the taxpayer paid it for them.That the child is now an adult is no reason to not expect repayment.
on February 27,2012 | 05:52AM
onevoice82 wrote:
"There's not a lot of sympathy for deadbeat dads, and justly so," Vail says. "But everybody's got limits, and I think people who have never walked a mile in some of those old, worn-out shoes are a little quick to rush to judgment about what that life might be like." Hey Vail, i know some people that have walked that mile in worn out shoes......the children the deadbeats abandoned!
on February 27,2012 | 09:16AM
localguy wrote:
One thought, if those who owe money and risk having it all taken, simply close the bank account. Notify the Fed you do not have a bank account. No account, no electronic payment. Still can't see why the Fed can't deduct the cost of mailing a check from the payment. Then again, when has the Fed ever been an efficient and professional organization?
on February 27,2012 | 05:56AM
soundofreason wrote:
"People who owe large amounts of child support are almost universally poor.">>> Maybe because they went through their whole life continually making bad decisions like the fleeting thought that took place right before they got someone else pregnant. So these guys put women in the same pickle, for 18 yrs, that they are now going to be put in. No sympathy. There's also a statment in the article that one of the compaints is that the money will end up going to the government and not to the mothers. GOOD! Cause it was the government who was doling own WELFARE checks to the mother when the father didn't pay. All around - no "innocent" victims - a good move.
on February 27,2012 | 06:01AM
false wrote:
Actually, if a person becomes a dead beat dad. The authorities should find him. At that time he either pays or goesto jail for contempt. He should have opportunity while incarcerated to find a job. Upon finding a job and place to stay, his pay should be docked every month. Should he quit, he should sought after and be held in contempt again. This time he should serve a minimum sentence before starting the process again. A third time should be no less than a year and day in prison hard time.
on February 27,2012 | 08:47AM
sixthsense wrote:
Hilarious story! I wasn't using Welfare, but when I needed financial help with OUR child, he was busy screwing around spending money on women. After being fired from his job, he worked "under the table" so that he didn't have to pay child support. If he had kept up with HIS responsibility, today he wouldn't be owing me over $36,000. By the way, I don't drink or take drugs, which are some of the reasons men give for not wanting to pay a mother for support of their child!! Our son is 28 years old! A bill, late or not, is still a bill! And, this prevents him from renewing his driver's license or getting a passport. It doesn't seem to bother him; driving around with an expired driver's license!
on February 27,2012 | 09:02AM
kaupani wrote:
>> And, this prevents him from renewing his driver's license or getting a passport. It doesn't seem to bother him; driving around with an expired driver's license! Seems that perhaps you too made a really bad decision 28 years ago sleeping with this loser. Perhaps should have waited a while to get to know him?
on February 27,2012 | 09:44AM
what wrote:
It always struck me as hypocritical that women who have children with deadbeat losers don't seem to feel any shame that they chose to sleep with and make a baby with such a deadbeat loser. It's like they are admitting they have poor choice in men, or can't get any better, and aren't embarrassed about it at all.
on February 27,2012 | 10:35AM
soundofreason wrote:
or want to take responsibility for where their own body was at the time.
on February 27,2012 | 05:44PM
pizza wrote:
On one level it appears that the govenment is trying to raise money any way possible. Shall we go after those who can not put up a good fight? Where are the collection attempts for those who raped and pillaged the U.S. economy by violating the public trust, which led to the collapse of major banking institutions. Bottom-line thinking is it's own morality, and driven by a Machiavellian approach to life. The puppets who govern us dance to the manipulations of the corporate puppeteers that pull their strings and pay their ways. Kinda scary aging in an environment like this. Child support should be paid. But demanding interest on welfare payments? Collect on the principal. STOP gouging the poor to recover money lost due to ineffectual governemental management.
on February 27,2012 | 01:01PM
sak wrote:
Whah-Whah-Whah, would you like some cheese with your whine? It's time to pay the piper. They should have used a condom or the pill in the first place. I have no sympathy for these dead beats. My neighbor who is on wellfare with one child, will never see any money because the father of her child has 6 other previous kids with some other women. Talk about a 7 time deadbeat loser of a father whose children our taxes now have to support.
on February 27,2012 | 05:20PM
pizza wrote:
Wasn't whining... Do you get paid interest when you pay your taxes over the course of the tax year? No. All I said is that the interest payment is excessive, in my opinion. Another thought is whether the child support payment negates a welfare payment. I am betting not, in many cases. I did say I am all for compelling child support payments.
on February 28,2012 | 03:57AM
likewise wrote:
The reality is that if the woman decides to abort, the father has no rights at all to prevent it. But if she decides its a child and not "unwanted tissue" you are held responsible for 18 years. So it's all decided by the woman. Men have no rights but all the responsibility in these situations. Be smart, wear a condom.
on February 27,2012 | 06:10PM
LittleEarl_01 wrote:
"People who owe large amounts of child support are almost universally poor." Oh pleeze! I am aware of more than several deadbeat Dads who make a darn good living working under the table. In one instance, a deadbeat Dad, working for a car dealership as a mechanic, received a garnishment on his pay. He quit and was immediately put back to work at the same dealership, as a mechanic, working under the table. Who pays for his child support, the taxpayer, that's who.
on February 28,2012 | 03:12AM
dennisgecko wrote:
I'm the result of a deadbeat "dad". ZERO $ to me. Placed in an orphanage for 9 years in Chicago and left to fend for myself. 53 years later and I'm doing "ok". They , deadbeat dads, should pay all they have for thier moments of pleasure and then discarding the results. Zero sadness for the poverety they brought upon themselves. Zero!
on February 28,2012 | 06:22AM
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