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Lingle, Hirono trade barbs in first debate of their Senate race

By Star-Advertier staff

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LAST UPDATED: 06:10 p.m. HST, Sep 06, 2012


Former Gov. Linda Lingle and U.S. Rep. Mazie Hirono offered competing visions in the first debate of their U.S. Senate campaign, with Lingle outlining a bipartisan approach to national problems and Hirono declaring that Hawaii needs a Democratic senator who shares their values.

Lingle, a Republican, portrayed Hirono as ineffective in Congress and suggested she did not have the command of key federal tax and spending issues. Hirono said that if Lingle and Republicans take control of the Senate, U.S. Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, would lose his chairmanship of the Senate Appropriations Committee and entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare would be threatened.

Lingle embraced the idea of giving seniors in Medicare a premium-support payment they could use to purchase private insurance as an option. Hirono said Lingle was following national Republican talking points on Medicare and budget ideas offered by U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., the GOP’s vice presidential nominee.

Lingle cracked that Hawaii voters could be surprised in November not to find Ryan as Hirono's opponent for Senate, since he appeared to be the congresswoman's focus. The former governor said Hirono should focus on Hawaii.

The forum, hosted by the Japanese Chamber of Commerce at the Japanese Cultural Center, was the first of five debates before the November election to replace retiring U.S. Sen. Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii.







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CriticalReader wrote:
So Hirono is going to ride Obama's coattails wherever that takes her, and Lingle is going to call Hirono stupid. This is going to be a shameful senate race.
on September 6,2012 | 02:04PM
allie wrote:
yes, neiother one is worth much. Mazie is the less bad choice though
on September 6,2012 | 03:01PM
jess wrote:
My thoughts exactly... if the House wasn't at stake I would probably vote for Lingle over Hirono. Not this year.
on September 6,2012 | 03:38PM
allie wrote:
thanks..good choice. She scares me.
on September 6,2012 | 03:53PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Of course what scares a Democrat more is that of a Republican defeating a Democrat senatorial candidate.
on September 6,2012 | 09:00PM
tiki886 wrote:
You mean the Senate.
on September 6,2012 | 05:55PM
Heinbear wrote:
agree
on September 6,2012 | 04:27PM
poidragon wrote:
Better to have a representative in both political camps than two in the political camp with 'no clout!' Hirono's own records shows a lack of style, leadership or responsibility; Hawaii needs an active, vibrant, rep who will voice the opinions of the citizens of Hawaii and not just be a 'rubber stamp yes man or bench warmer!' The heyday of Inoue and Akaka is coming to a close and Hawaii has no one strong enough to step up and take the reigns of political power and the willingness to fight for Hawaii's future. Both Old time Senators have decided not to groom anyone to take over their political positions and carry on their legacy, leaving our State in the lurch, having to start all over again begin the long, slow climb to political prowess, once more. Hirono is part of the 'old guard democratic machine' and Hawaii deserves better than democratic leftovers.................
on September 6,2012 | 08:34PM
allie wrote:
Lingle was a terrible governor. She would do best to play that 8 years down.
on September 6,2012 | 02:09PM
walaau808 wrote:
I can finally agree on something with you!
on September 6,2012 | 03:12PM
allie wrote:
it is not hard :)
on September 6,2012 | 03:54PM
tiki886 wrote:
Lingle was better than Abercrombie. She didn't want to steal pension benefits from Hawaii retirees.
on September 6,2012 | 05:57PM
64hoo wrote:
or take the homeowners hurricane fund.for pork barrel spending.
on September 6,2012 | 11:06PM
Heinbear wrote:
She did enough damage in Hawaii. We cannot turn her loose on the whole country!
on September 6,2012 | 04:28PM
Kuniarr wrote:
To taxpayers, Lingle was an excellent governor. To state employes, union workers, and their relatives, Lingle was a terrible governor.
on September 6,2012 | 04:53PM
tiki886 wrote:
Correct. If you want to keep your hard earned money vote for Linda. Hirono will want to confiscate it from you because your money doesn't belong to you.
on September 6,2012 | 05:59PM
Giligan wrote:
Hirono speaks with ignorance and rhetoric, and has no concept of the consequences of spending our money like water.
on September 7,2012 | 06:16AM
NITRO08 wrote:
Linda speaks like the flip flop man and lien Ryan
on September 16,2012 | 06:25AM
NITRO08 wrote:
In your eyes only maybe you should see a doctor for your eyes!
on September 16,2012 | 06:23AM
Ronin006 wrote:
Yes, she was a terrible governor. That is why she was reelected for two terms. Thank God we have term limits or she would have been reelected for a third term. That is what happens when you are a terrible governor.
on September 6,2012 | 06:18PM
poidragon wrote:
How short the memories of the citizens of the State of Hawaii are, Lingle it was who lead the state through the economic hard-times, being blocked by a Democratic party legislature that tried to water down the powers and duties of the office of the Governor, because they did not like her politics! It could have been much, much worse than it was, if she had not taken the actions she did to keep the State solvent.
on September 6,2012 | 08:37PM
64hoo wrote:
also remember we had a big state surplus when she was governer and she did'nt have to steal the homeowners hurricane fund money. your right about what short memoriies people have but i guess those are the ones that are liberals with mental disorders.
on September 6,2012 | 11:15PM
Giligan wrote:
Look at how big the state government grew during the Waihee years, even Cayetano tried to undo that.
on September 7,2012 | 06:19AM
64hoo wrote:
why make a comment allie you wer'nt even here when she came governer 8 years ago you don't know nothing.
on September 6,2012 | 11:00PM
967TREE4 wrote:
Its all terrible!
on September 6,2012 | 02:52PM
Kapakahi wrote:
The race boils down to which party Hawaii voters want to control the US Senate, as more and more, it appears this election may help determine which party has a majority. So Hawaii voters who support the agenda of Mitch McConnell and the national Republicans should vote for Lingle. Those who want the Democrats to retain control of the Senate, including Senator Inouye remaining as chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, should vote for Mazie Hirono.

The personalities and ideas, both good and bad, of the two candidates, are secondary to this overpowering structural logic imposed on us by the closeness of the fight over the senate.


on September 6,2012 | 03:01PM
false wrote:
Nice try!!! Pearl Harbor was here before Inouye was born. Inouye is pathetic. What actual massive public works program has he brought us? A bridge to Ford Island. Get real. what we need is real leadership in Government and I am afraid Mazie only Knows how to take orders from losers and looters. Why did Inouye vote against auditing the FED. He is a spineless squid.
on September 6,2012 | 03:19PM
thanks4reading wrote:
By "Spineless squid" you infer a lack of courage. Obviously you have not read his war record or know that he is the recipient of the medal of honor. You can disagree with his policies without the name calling and disgraceful disrespect of his sacrifice to our nation. I realize when the facts are against some, the resort to name calling.
on September 6,2012 | 05:41PM
st1d wrote:
does he still have that dead lady's ring?
on September 6,2012 | 07:24PM
squidman22 wrote:
How can we forget. The 442nd is mentioned and paraded and heralded at every possible moment. Handing out medals and rewards over and over again.
on September 6,2012 | 09:36PM
NiteMarcher wrote:
You are so right---it all comes back to who controls what....I just hope we the people get some good things out of all of this!
on September 6,2012 | 03:34PM
Ronin006 wrote:
Why is there so much being said by the Democrats about keeping control of the Senate so that Inouye remains as chair of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee? Has anyone else noticed that Senator Inouye is, well, quite old, and that his days as in the Senate are numbered? But I suppose he still has time to milk taxpayers dry as he has done for so many years.
on September 6,2012 | 06:46PM
Giligan wrote:
For Mazie to say that Inouye could lose his chair, is a scare tactic, and untrue. Just ask Inouye directly.
on September 7,2012 | 06:23AM
Kuokoa wrote:
How can Hirono say that she represents the values of those of us who live in Hawaii when the democrats support same sex marriage and the majority of the residents of Hawaii do not?
on September 6,2012 | 03:43PM
allie wrote:
she mostly represents us. I like her. Honest lady and works hard
on September 6,2012 | 03:54PM
DAGR81 wrote:
Sometimes honesty and hard work just does not cut it.
on September 6,2012 | 05:49PM
akuman808 wrote:
Ahhh, a devout Romney-Ryan supporter. They emuate what you describe, no honesty or hard work.
on September 6,2012 | 05:53PM
DAGR81 wrote:
Actually, I am a loyal supporter of Obama, but I do want a U.S. Senator capable of serving the people of Hawaii...just as Dan Inouye continues to do. I would fully support Colleen Hanabusa if she were running for the U.S Senate.
on September 6,2012 | 07:15PM
Giligan wrote:
No! Anybody but Hanabusa, another ineffective, union loving, spender of our money. I like Obama because his is a loco boy.
on September 7,2012 | 06:27AM
tiki886 wrote:
She's follower not a leader. Of course 'followers" will identify with her.
on September 6,2012 | 06:12PM
twon wrote:
Unfortunately we have way too many sheeples here in Hawaii! Makes it awfully hard to get anything done that requires real change.... hey, lets do another study!
on September 6,2012 | 10:14PM
64hoo wrote:
there you go again allie you don't know nothing about hirono you were not here before she became lt. governer so we don't need your 2 cents of nothing.
on September 6,2012 | 11:22PM
thanks4reading wrote:
What is the majority of people in hawaii were in favor of say barring those of hawaiian ancestry the right to vote would you support that? Hawaii values are based upon the majority protecting the rights of the minority. What people in hawaii value is diversity and not allowing the government to tell us who we can wed or what we can do with our bodies. What you call "values" is code for blatant ignorance and prejudice. Times are changing, I encourage you to change with them.
on September 6,2012 | 05:45PM
eros_et_logia wrote:
Mazie Hirono is intellectually bankrupt. While I don't consider Lingle to be a policy maven, at least she cares enough to pretend that she has original thoughts. How sad are we as a state if we elect someone- Democrat or Republican- who brandishes the fact that she's noting more than a rubber stamp?
on September 6,2012 | 03:52PM
allie wrote:
Lingle was a terrible governor. She is tied to the radical agenda of mainland and foreign donors. Look at who is behind her.
on September 6,2012 | 03:55PM
64hoo wrote:
again you don't know nothing keep quiet already.
on September 6,2012 | 11:29PM
koolau wrote:
allie represents the the blind, who will vote by heresay and generalizing what she hears or sees. The article above quotes Mazie's argument that if Lingle wins, Dan will lose his chairmanship. So we're supposed to vote for Mazie so Dan can keep his job? That's the kind of decision making criteria she and others base their reasoning upon. Lingle may not have been the best governor, but she sure beats out a lot of those who have held that and other high profile positions. So, do we want someone who has a some facet of a resume' working across the aisle or Mazie's zero record. It should be a no-brainer (pun intended.) Goodness people, look at the records!!!
on September 7,2012 | 05:08AM
Giligan wrote:
Dan will not lose power, this is a scare tactic only.
on September 7,2012 | 06:30AM
Rivergrouch wrote:
Lazy Mazie..........remember ABM ( anybody but mufi)......ABM ( anybody but mazie) ABM, ABM, ABM, ABM.......now.......lazy mazie...Mazie cannot think or act for herself but is worse than Lingle..........ABM, ABM, ABM....anybody but mazie
on September 6,2012 | 04:15PM
8082062424 wrote:
Judge tells UH to turn over correspondence with Inouye, Abercrombie ILind: This case stems from the recent flap over allegations that Senator Dan Inouye’s staff, communicating directly or through the governor’s office, put inappropriate pressure on a hearing officer appointed by the Board of Land and Natural Resources to handle a contested case hearing on the University of Hawaii’s application for a permit to build the advanced technology solar telescope in a conservation district at the summit of Haleakala. The hearing officer later complained publicly about the external pressure. Two weeks later, he was fired. Subsequently, a group challenging the university’s telescope project asked the university to disclose any correspondence or emails with Sen. Inouye or Gov. Abercrombie or their staff during the period the project was being pushed forward. When university attorneys denied the request, attorney David Kimo Frankel of the Native Hawaiian Legal Corporation filed suit on behalf of the group, Kilakila ‘O Haleakala, seeking disclosure under the state’s open records law. Circuit Court Judge Rhonda Nishimura has now issued a verbal ruling in favor of disclosure, according to Frankel. Attorneys are currently awaiting the judge’s written order, Frankel said Inouye is no saint far from it
on September 6,2012 | 04:15PM
Wazdat wrote:
I am NOT sold on Hirano and agree that she is very ineffective. Linda is a much smarter women, BUT she is on the side of right wing nut jobs so she will lose. Bummer
on September 6,2012 | 04:28PM
rhs763 wrote:
Both losers, both liars, both don't do much.
on September 6,2012 | 05:32PM
akuman808 wrote:
Classic example of the FALSE CHOICE. Hirono is weak and ineffective, Lingle will do major damage to Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security.
on September 6,2012 | 06:20PM
twon wrote:
If you truly believe that social security and Medicaid/Medicare will be around unchanged for anyone under fifty, you must have been smoking the wacky weed behind the chapel with BO! Start planning now, better to be good than lucky.
on September 6,2012 | 10:05PM
Venus1 wrote:
Hirono us sooo above Lingle!!!!! Mazie, you have my vote and support!!when I see Linda I see SARAH PALIN!!! And George Bush!!!!
on September 6,2012 | 08:12PM
beachbum11 wrote:
And when I see Hirano I see Dan, and Dan, and NEIL, AND MANY MORE
on September 6,2012 | 08:48PM
HollyJHuber wrote:
Lingle = Romney!
on September 6,2012 | 08:15PM
poidragon wrote:
Ms.Hirono in her time as the representative from Hawaii has not produced anything of substance to help enhance her standing as a congressional representative. Her track record for voting in congress is spotty at best and reflects a lack of inspiration or dedication to her constituents. Hawaii does not need another 'Seat Warmer Representative' but an active one
on September 6,2012 | 08:23PM
flying1431 wrote:
LIngle hides under the theme of bi-partisan but that is shibai. Name one bi-partisan legislation or bill she passed working with Democrats at the State Legislature. None!!. It was her way of the higway, why do you think Democrats overode some of her votes! She gave us the Superferry fiasco and don't ever forget school furloughs.... I am a Republican, and I am certainly not voting for Lingle!!! Republicans for HIRONO!!!!!
on September 6,2012 | 10:26PM
64hoo wrote:
no your not you are a republicrat or a demacan.
on September 6,2012 | 11:34PM
twon wrote:
I truly believe you have it bass-ackward ! It is the democrats in the state legislature the have the "my way OR the highway" attitude. Linda Lingle never got a VOTE on anything, she was the governor, she got to VETO bills that the legislature voted on. If the legislature decided to override that veto.... well how can you say that it was her fault for being partisan, it takes two to tango... or in this state, the Dems to solo.... don't like what we got, you have to put the big majority of the blame on the donkey party. I'm just sayin'.
on September 7,2012 | 07:15AM
sailfish1 wrote:
Lingle is not going to work with the Democrats in Congress as she says. Look at the way she treated President Obama while she was governor. Lingle is a phony and should not be representing Hawaii.
on September 6,2012 | 11:48PM
tsboy wrote:
pleading with the voters to vote for her so that Uncle Dan doesn't lose his chairmanship is just weak. what does that say about her qualifications if thats all she's got? without Uncle Dan, Hirono would be lost. she has never voted against a democratic proposal, at the local or national level. NEVER!!! talk about partisan politics.
on September 7,2012 | 12:09AM
NITRO08 wrote:
Linda is financed by outside interest open your eye who do you think is paying for her TV adds. The repubs whats her to vote along there lines!
on September 16,2012 | 06:34AM
NITRO08 wrote:
AND YOU THINK LINDA IS GOING TO WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS? I DON'T THINK SO SHE BELIEVES IN MITT THE FLIP FLOP MAN AND LIEN RYAN THEY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING BUT FOX NEWS BELIEVE THEM. ALL LYING IDIOTS!
on September 16,2012 | 06:45AM
GorillaSmith wrote:
Hirono is not competent enough to take my order at McDonald's. Lingle has issues but a vote for Mazie says. "I don't care what kind of puppet is my senator as long as she's wearing the Democrat (soon to be a minority) brand". Patheric.
on September 7,2012 | 01:16AM
NITRO08 wrote:
How can you be so stupid to believe in the repubs!
on September 16,2012 | 06:47AM
Rickyboy wrote:
None of the above.
on September 7,2012 | 02:25PM
false wrote:
false3. Oh well, the Repubs have their Sarahs and the Dems have their Mazies. If Mazie wins, she better pray that senator Inouye is still around to tell her how to vote.
on September 7,2012 | 04:05PM
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