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UH won't play Temple this season after football talks breakdown

By Stephen Tsai

LAST UPDATED: 08:21 a.m. HST, Nov 13, 2012

The University of Hawaii and Temple University football teams will not be playing each other this season after negotiations between the two schools collapsed.

The Warriors were hoping to add a 13th game to the 2012 schedule, while the Owls were looking for a 12th regular-season game. The proposal called for the game to be played Dec. 7 at Aloha Stadium. 

But officials said final negotiations fell apart Monday night.

"The numbers did not add up," UH acting athletic director Rockne Freitas said this morning.

Temple athletic director Bil Bradshaw said in a news release today, "Temple University went above and beyond normal procedures in an effort to provide our student-athletes with the opportunity to play in a 12th football game this season. Unfortunately, that will not be possible as our negotiations with the University of Hawaii have ended. We felt we had an agreement in place with the University of Hawaii, but in the end, its administration was unable to fulfill it due to unforeseen circumstances."

Temple, which initially proposed the game in July, was willing to pay for its travel expenses and not accept an appearance fee. 

Despite Temple's concessions, Freitas said the UH would have faced a financial loss. 

UH usually pays Aloha Stadium a game-maintenance fee of about $100,000. In addition, UH's expenses would add up to about $80,000. 

Freitas said he would not have charged an admission fee to season-ticket subscribers. 

He said UH averages 3,600 walk-up sales for each home game this year. There were 440 walk-up sales for Saturday's game against Boise State. 

"The University of Hawaii is a public university," Freitas said. "I treat the public's money like it's mine. I cross every 'T' and dot every 'I."

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fairgame947 wrote:
Not sure it was a good thing in the long run, but was the problem "UPPER CAMPUS"? "Unforseen circumstances? Geezzzz.
on November 13,2012 | 07:16AM
frontman wrote:
Thank GOD........even cancel the last games to end the misery.
on November 13,2012 | 10:49AM
kainalu wrote:
Exactly. While the turnstiles may have indicated there were 18K at the biggest home-game of the year, it really looked like there were 18 people actually in the stands. A total national embarassment, and we want to salt that wound? Come on, man!
on November 13,2012 | 01:07PM
hunebasami wrote:
Mac wasn't that bad. Had the same boys but better coach. Chow need top players to win. Anybody can win with top players.
on November 13,2012 | 05:19PM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
I committed to being at every game. All I can say is, "Thank you."
on November 13,2012 | 07:17AM
Tony91 wrote:
Perfect example of irony: "I treat the public's money like it's mine. I cross every 'T' and dot every 'I."
on November 13,2012 | 07:17AM
lani_moo wrote:
Just like how he managed the Bishop Estate money, like it was his money.
on November 13,2012 | 01:50PM
mjpperry wrote:
simply stated............it is fallout for a poor season and poor fan support. If fans were supporting the team and showing up for games this game would have been a reality.
on November 13,2012 | 07:22AM
hunebasami wrote:
If we could win would be better. Not div 2.
on November 13,2012 | 05:20PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Awww pua tings....no Christmas in Hawaii for the Owls.
on November 13,2012 | 07:26AM
Descartes22 wrote:
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on November 13,2012 | 07:27AM
loquaciousone wrote:
UH is making every opponent except Lamarr look BCS bound.
on November 13,2012 | 07:37AM
allie wrote:
on November 13,2012 | 08:37AM
hunebasami wrote:
on November 13,2012 | 05:21PM
bigpapa wrote:
3,600 @ $35 per head average covers the $100k stadium fee. 440 does not. I think UH got the message loud and clear that the fans will not pay for the crappy product that is UH football. It doesn't bode we'll for Chow as UH is losing fan support.
on November 13,2012 | 07:30AM
al_kiqaeda wrote:
I'm not sure how the people who paid $10 a ticket from scalpers effects this.
on November 13,2012 | 08:13AM
NITRO08 wrote:
What fans you mean the one that don't show up to the games every year unless when UH is winning, that's not fans that's FLAT TIRES!
on November 13,2012 | 12:48PM
hunebasami wrote:
You might like losing but I don't.. I know that you don't own your own businrss but just a guy that shows up to work, Owner all know if you are losing money to long you will go broke
on November 13,2012 | 05:27PM
BTO wrote:
I hope PPV is making up for the lost revenue on seating.
on November 13,2012 | 03:12PM
hunebasami wrote:
When nobody show maybe UH will get the hint.
on November 13,2012 | 05:23PM
bleedgreen wrote:
While Freitas would not have charged season ticket holders for the Temple game, he, as acting AD, is currently soliciting donations for the UH athletic fund. If he anticipated the season ticket holders would cry foul about having to pay for the proposed game (when they could have considered it a donation), I can't believe they are willing to cough up $50 for the fund raiser.
on November 13,2012 | 07:31AM
lowtone123 wrote:
"I treat the public's money like it's mine. I cross every 'T' and dot every 'I." Thank god somebody does.
on November 13,2012 | 07:33AM
loquaciousone wrote:
But at UH sometimes they cross their eyes and dot their tees and look the other way.
on November 13,2012 | 07:38AM
CriticalReader wrote:
Did you come up with that yourself? That's pretty good. If it's someone else's creation, never mind.
on November 13,2012 | 08:02AM
squidman22 wrote:
It's called being kind and merciful to the fans. Thank you for not prolonging the agony UH.
on November 13,2012 | 07:37AM
ya_think wrote:
When they announced the price of the season tickets the fans knew that they were paying for six home games, so why should they complain about having to pay for an additional game? If they wanted to give the season ticket holders a break well take 10/15% off the ticket cost.
on November 13,2012 | 07:44AM
hunebasami wrote:
I don't think anybody cared.
on November 13,2012 | 05:28PM
KamaainaUH wrote:
"Unforeseen circumstances?"' UH would rather be 1-11 instead of 1-12 and wouldn't make enough money in the Temple game just to rent the stadium for the day. 12 losses in 1 season would be a new UH football record. This season is a complete disaster. Can't we just forfeit the AFA, UNLV, and S. Bama games? Freitas would save some money.
on November 13,2012 | 08:08AM
allie wrote:
well said
on November 13,2012 | 08:37AM
hunebasami wrote:
With the spred we were 12-0. With the pro set that gives the defense a break we ae 1-8. Which do you like. Don't blame the boys they are trying...
on November 13,2012 | 05:31PM
CriticalReader wrote:
More news and reminders about UH going down the tubes. FIRST, there is the question over why there wasn't a 13th game to begin with. Second, this game was first proposed in July - 4 months ago. Why is this still an issue 8 games into the season? The reason for NOT doing it? Poor attendance. The reason for poor attendance? Disconnect with the community. 440 walk up tickets for a game against a Nationally ranked team???
on November 13,2012 | 08:16AM
loquaciousone wrote:
I can think of two. Temple wanted to spend Christmas in Hawaii and a 1 and 11 season doesn't look as bad as a 1 and 12 season for Hawaii.
on November 13,2012 | 08:27AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Silly me. I forgot. The Honolulu Marathon is scheduled for that weekend and unless someone is willing to house about a 100 Temple players and coaches, they're going to have to camp out on the beaches. And you know how the City is about homeless people on our beaches.
on November 13,2012 | 08:30AM
allie wrote:
yup..Temple is a bad team but they did want a vacation just as Lamar did.
on November 13,2012 | 08:38AM
BTO wrote:
Can we replace the opening game -- the one against Michigan... It would be nicer for this team to play Temple the first game versus starting the season demoralized. I know it is a great experience for the players and we are up to the challenge, but scheduling must be done to move the program along. I thank the committee for scheduling Lamar. The Big Ten and the SEC always schedules one or two powder puff teams, Hawaii should do the same.
on November 13,2012 | 03:18PM
isleboy2002 wrote:
right now hawaii is the powder puff team
on November 13,2012 | 04:49PM
hunebasami wrote:
This wouldn't have happened if Rockne didn;t want Chow. But I guess Rockne got what he wanted to have Chow get him the AD job.
on November 13,2012 | 05:34PM
mrluke wrote:
One less loss.
on November 13,2012 | 08:34AM
allie wrote:
I think Rockne is right: No need to prolong the agony. Let us end the season ASAP. It has all been an embarrassment.
on November 13,2012 | 08:37AM
LizKauai wrote:
It's a business. I guess.
on November 13,2012 | 08:54AM
Morimoto wrote:
Thank goodness common sense prevailed. UH doesn't need another blowout loss on it's record.
on November 13,2012 | 08:57AM
Sunny wrote:
From the beginning the numbers were not going to work, it was a money losing proposition no matter how you look at it. I'm a longtime season ticket holder and would not have bee ablt to make it on a Friday anyway.
on November 13,2012 | 09:21AM
maafifloos wrote:
Watched the coahes TV show. He complains about thimgs that are his job to prevent from happening (not starting well, penalties, etc)..
on November 13,2012 | 09:27AM
sukebesan wrote:
I could've told the dumb top UH officials that this outcome was guanteed from the very beginning that: (1) even with free admissions, most season ticket holderst would not attend; (2) loser football team = very poor fan support; (4) late Friday afternoon game time = traffic nightmare, and (4) adverse fallout from the Stevie Dumber fiasco.
on November 13,2012 | 10:26AM
gsc wrote:
Tom Apple said on the radio last week "The University is a Billion Dollar Institution" so losing $200,000 is peanuts ..
on November 13,2012 | 12:17PM
loquaciousone wrote:
An apple a day doesn't wash the troubles away.................
on November 13,2012 | 12:28PM
hunebasami wrote:
Can I have some peanuts, too.
on November 13,2012 | 05:37PM
Anonymous wrote:
As a season ticket holder, I go to all the games because I've already paid. But my motivation to go to a game I' haven't paid for against a so-so opponent would be near zero this season. So I think Freitas killed the deal because he didn't want the embarrassment of less than 10,000 in the joint.
on November 13,2012 | 12:42PM
BIGBEN wrote:
December 7th that's a Friday what makes you think they going to fill the stadium up.They cant even fill it up on Saturday's.
on November 13,2012 | 12:55PM
9ronboz wrote:
Temple did not want to ruin their reputation
on November 13,2012 | 01:34PM
warriorsanddolphins wrote:
we are going to lose alot of money this season anyway, paying for the traveling mountain west teams to come here. temple bent over backwards for this game. that is why we will never be big time because we have idiots running the program.
on November 13,2012 | 01:59PM
hunebasami wrote:
on November 13,2012 | 05:38PM
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