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Beach smoking ban moves past Council committee

By Star-Advertiser staff

LAST UPDATED: 04:45 p.m. HST, Nov 27, 2012

A bill banning smoking at several major Honolulu beach parks cleared the City Council’s Safety, Economic Development and Government Affairs Committee today.

The bill, introduced by Councilman Stanley Chang, would bar smoking at Kapiolani Park, Kuhio Beach, Duke Kahanamoku Beach Park, the beach side of Ala Moana Park, and Sandy Beach Park.

The vote was 4-1. Councilman Tom Berg was the lone “no” saying that any ban should be applied islandwide, if not statewide.

Safety Chairman Nestor Garcia, heading his last committee meeting before his term expires, backed off asking his colleagues to consider a ban at all city beaches and parks on Oahu.

Members Carol Fukunaga and Breene Harimoto said they would have supported a plan for an islandwide ban.

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Oahuan wrote:
From what I gathered from previous news clips on this bill, it is to reduce the cigarette littering. ENFORCE THE LAWS YOU ALREADY GOT!!!!!! It is fact that the Japanese tourist are heavy smokers. This law will discourage the japanese from vacation here with the numerous smoking restrictions. They can't smoke indoors and now you're going to tell them they can't smoke outdoors in parks and beaches? Yeah, real smart.
on November 27,2012 | 10:37AM
jusmetwocents wrote:
Your rational doesn't make any sense... When smoking was outlawed in bars and restaurants a few years ago, did the number of visiting smokers go up or down? Here's a hint for you: Visitor numbers to Waikiki continue to grow year over year from just about every market, both domestic and international.
on November 27,2012 | 11:31AM
BO0o07 wrote:
No smoking during flights did not affect people from flying.
on November 27,2012 | 12:23PM
Anonymous wrote:
It makes perfect sense. Poeple smoke. Enforce littering laws. Stop the freedom grabbing!
on November 27,2012 | 12:24PM
allie wrote:
on November 27,2012 | 12:33PM
royalridge_2000 wrote:
Agreed. Dont make rules/laws they cant enforce. More work for the police. Just enforce the littering laws that are already in place. Not just for cigarette butts but for all rubbish.
on November 27,2012 | 12:58PM
royalridge_2000 wrote:
It didnt stop people from nessecarily visiting but it did cut down the revenues of the Bars that allowed it. Smoking band indoors is reasonable but outdoors too? Just enforce the laws already in place which is no littering. I really dont want to hear the argument about 2nd hand smoke outdoors either. If they are so worried about that, then they should allow no driving cars either. Think of the thousands of cars that drive right next to all the beaches mentioned every day. Cigarettes pale in comparison to the fumes coming out of all those cars. I say they should just ban cigarette sales completely and be done with it. Of course, they would never do that. They want the tax revenues they get from the cigarettes. Dont forget the master settlement money they get from big tobacco every year too. Of course, non of that money goes to tobacco prevention, care, etc. It all goes right to the general fund. Its all about the money.
on November 27,2012 | 12:55PM
fandm wrote:
Thank you, royalridge_2000. Pretty much exactly what I would say...I'd also like to point out that they don't ever seem to want to ban alcohol, despite the many alcohol-related traffic deaths we've had recently including that 14-year-old girl last week in Ewa Beach. And the head on collision on the H2 Freeway a couple of weeks ago where the drunk guy crashed into an unsuspecting person driving home. And why? Because many of our non-smoking politicians drink alcohol. Plus, it is another huge source of taxes. I can't believe all the really important issues are all solved so this is what our council is working on. Cigarettes are a legal substance...littering is an illegal practice. Enforce those laws instead of wasting taxpayer time voting on this crap.
on November 27,2012 | 03:32PM
peanutgallery wrote:
Let's try to figure-out as many ways we can to keep tourists from coming to Oahu. As the gGuiness boys say: BRILLIANT" there Stanley, you egg-noggin'.
on November 27,2012 | 04:58PM
pgkemp wrote:
another good bill that will get no enforcement just like cell phones and smoking at bus stops......
on November 27,2012 | 01:05PM
mrluke wrote:
Absolutely true. Just another example of the Silly Council trying to justify their existance, and giving themselves a pat on the back. Well, voters of Oahu, you got what you deserved!
on November 27,2012 | 03:28PM
serious wrote:
As usual, Berg is the only one with common sense--he talks for the people!!
on November 27,2012 | 04:18PM
64hoo wrote:
like i said just put trash cans with ashtray embedded in the top of the trash can cover with sand, and the workers for the state and city and county can clean them up every day by emptying the ashtrays when they empty the trash can. that will stop most of the litter and cigarette butts from being thrown in the sand or parks. and second hand smoke will not bother anybody because you are in open air. might as well ban charcoal grills that makes all that second hand poisinous smoke where everyone brethes it in worse than cigarette smoke.
on November 27,2012 | 04:47PM
nippy68 wrote:
im not a smoker but sheeeeesh!!!!!!! next thing you hear we may not eat a plate lunch at the beach or park because of plastic forks etc...... are found on the ground or sand.
on November 27,2012 | 05:26PM
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