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Obama urges court to overturn gay marriage ban

By Julie Pace and Mark Sherman

Associated Press

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LAST UPDATED: 01:57 p.m. HST, Feb 28, 2013


WASHINGTON » The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overturn California's ban on same-sex marriage and turn a skeptical eye on similar prohibitions across the country.

The administration says unequivocally in a legal brief filed late today that gay marriage should be allowed to resume in California, where it has been barred since the passage of Proposition 8 in 2008.

It does not explicitly call for marriage equality across the United States but points the court in that direction.

More immediately, the administration's position, if adopted by the court, probably would result in gay marriage becoming legal in seven other states that, like California, give gay couples all the benefits of marriage, but don't allow them to wed.

They are: Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon and Rhode Island.






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pastormatt wrote:
The judicial system should not be swayed by the executive. Doesn't the president realize that he is overstepping his power? The Supreme Court must rule on law and not intimidation. The constitution of California prohibits gay marriage, so how can a court overrule a state constitution? This isn't about marriage but the foundation of the powers and roles of government. The president should not overstep his role just to support his new ideologies.
on February 28,2013 | 01:31PM
Fred01 wrote:
Yes, and Mississippi used to prohibit integrated schools. What is your point?
on February 28,2013 | 02:27PM
pastormatt wrote:
When statements of intimidation are heard from a variety of sources; media, political, sports, entertainment, of how the president uses his office, then the fact of "the Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overturn California's ban on same-sex marriage and turn a skeptical eye on similar prohibitions across the country" should raise some red flags among us as this may be another example of a president not respecting the constitution, nor the balance of power. Because of his administrations actions, his divisive partisan views are becoming more mainstream. The role of president is not to teach and dictate to the other branches of government, nor the people, but to represent our nation and uphold the responsibilities of the office conferred upon him.
on February 28,2013 | 02:47PM
localguy wrote:
And if Lincoln had not freed the slaves. What is your point pastormatt?
on February 28,2013 | 04:09PM
Grimbold wrote:
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on February 28,2013 | 02:24PM
pastormatt wrote:
I suggest you read beyond the simple title of the article.
on February 28,2013 | 02:49PM
Fred01 wrote:
I really don't understand what kind of angry hateful people would have the time and energy to protest gay marriage. If you don't approve of gay marriage, don't get one. But you have no right to force your hateful "morals" on others.
on February 28,2013 | 02:27PM
false wrote:
Can the Feds outlaw polygamy? I have 3 friends that want to marry.
on February 28,2013 | 02:48PM
pastormatt wrote:
Is this Rep. Hanohano? Why so quick to label and condemn me as part of a group of people who may not share your beliefs, while I stated clearly "this isn't about marriage but the foundation of the powers and roles of government." The hate and anger you portray on others may simply be a realization of your own issues.
on February 28,2013 | 02:56PM
9ronboz wrote:
barrack the dictator perhaps?
on February 28,2013 | 02:49PM
W_Williams wrote:
How dare he? What a power monger. I have kept quiet about this man, but he is so enamored of power ti's scary.
on February 28,2013 | 03:53PM
blackmurano wrote:
Barack Obama continues to distance himself from God almighty, and the ONE who ordained marriage as a Covenant for one man and one woman. Unfortunately, Obama who calls himself a Christian, have had issues with God's Holy Word. Judgment is coming to this country whose morality is totally collapsed.
on February 28,2013 | 04:29PM
UhhDuhh wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what about the gays who are not Christian- do you blame them for not being raised as God-fearing Christians? How do you know God actually ordained marriage as a covenant between a man and a woman- were you there? Is the bible in God's handwriting? Are gay people worst than heterosexual priests who sexually abuse young children? If God so loved his children that he gave his only begotten son, why did he create gay people? Does He not love them even if they are his own children? Would you hate your child if he/she was gay? I figured I would ask since you know everything about God.
on February 28,2013 | 05:24PM
pastormatt wrote:
To help answer a few of your questions. Each person is responsible for their own decisions. God ordained marriage between a man and woman in Genesis, Matthew, Mark, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, all written well before our nation's foundational documents, but which were the governing documents our legal system was based. The Bible is God's Word that has been translated over and over for different dialects, both when originally penned and for our contemporary society. Gay people are not worse than any other sinner, for all sins are equal and all require repentance. God did not create gay people, we are a continuation of Adam (original sin) and out of the heart comes sexual impurity, lust, adultery, murder, division, etc. God loves gays just as much as he loves everyone else. Like the prodigal father in Luke's Gospel, God lavishly bestows forgiveness on all who repent from their sinful ways and return to Him. Those who remain LOST and stubbornly embrace their sinfulness He never stops longing for their return.God does not hate the child, nor should any Christian hate anyone. To suggest such conveys an ignorance of the Gospel and what Jesus did for all people, especially dying for those who were crucifying Him. Christians hate sin and all that it does to us in our relationships with God and with others, but Christians love people and care for them as a doctor would to one who has cancer (sin), doing everything possible to defeat it.
on February 28,2013 | 08:02PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Yo Barry....remember jobs....jobs...jobs....unemployment still near 8% 4 years later.
on February 28,2013 | 05:36PM
A_Reader wrote:
What a stellar leader we have for a president....!!?!?!? While the Chambers of Congress and the tables of negotiations sit empty, with much more pressing issues at hand that he needs to be working on (i.e. Sequestration) he is overstepping his boundaries with the Supreme Court and pandering to the homosexual community . A president who's priorities are transparent.
on February 28,2013 | 08:01PM
pastormatt wrote:
To address your curiosity. Christians do not blame atheist parents for kids becoming gay. You should look at the data today. The root that Christians look at is original sin that Jesus says comes from the heart, and if one does not have the power of God's Spirit to enable them to fight it, will succumb to detestable acts of all sorts. God ordained marriage 6000 years ago (Genesis) and was reaffirmed 2000 years ago (Matthew, Mark, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians) as between a man and a woman according to God's creative design. The Bible is God's Word (spoken, heard, written) and has been transcribed several times into different languages and for different cultures, possibly loosing or adapting the original text because of the inadequacies of language. Those who participate in gay activities are no worse that sexually abusive priests, liars, murders, disobedient children. God loves all of His children and gives the example of the Prodigal Son and the Prodigal Father to how He loves, waits for, longs for the return of His sinful and wayward children, hoping they will turn from their sins and death and be embraced by Him. God did not create sin, but we all bear Adam's broken nature (original sin), which is expressed through all sorts of sinful and detestable actions. No Christian would ever hate anyone, and neither does God hate an individual, rather it is the action, the rebellion, the destruction, the rejection that pains so much.
on February 28,2013 | 08:19PM
pastormatt wrote:
The judgement that someone who does not celebrate homosexuality must hate gays is completely false. Rather, Christians are opposed to murder, adultery, lying, stealing, disobedience to parents, dishonoring God, etc. and just because there some do bad things (sins) does not excuse every other bad behavior. If one of my kids assaults another, it does not mean that I approve of it or will tolerate it any longer. I punish them, correct them, and encourage them not to do it again. Might they repeat that action? Yes, but that doesn't mean that I would stop loving them, even though I reject their actions over and over again as they hurt one another doing something that is not healthy or according to my wishes.
on February 28,2013 | 08:20PM
UhhDuhh wrote:
The power of God's spirit is different in each individual. Who is responsible for the level of each person's spirit? Isn't it God who created each of us? The bible is God's spoken word to Christians. Isn't the Koran God's spoken word to the muslims? Going back to the gay issue, do you think gays choose to be gay and therefore choose to sin according to your bible? You can see tendencies when they are in elementary school- do you think they made a conscious effort to be gay then? If so, how do you correct it so they can be "saved"? I should not look at data as much as you should look at reality. What if two gay people love each other? Does God forbid true love in that instance? C'mon pastor, my nephew is gay-should I stop loving him according to your rules?
on February 28,2013 | 09:26PM
pastormatt wrote:
Have no idea of what you mean by level? Is this your judgement of how "spiritual" you think someone to be. The Bible is clear, there is 1 God, 1 spirit, 1 faith. God creates us through the process He commanded, but each is born with a broken nature (original sin) because of rebellion long ago in Eden. The Koran or the Book of Mormon are describing and explaining a completely different God than the Judeo-Christian revelation. I don't think that someone chooses to be gay, but that they embrace particular lusts, desires, cravings, etc. that are not natural to man and are forbidden by God. Just as stealing is wrong or drinking is wrong for those under 21, and kids today have tendancies to do such things, I would warn them and teach them contrary to such feelings. Again, out of the heart comes murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, lying, and slander (Matthew 15:19). We need to help our keiki learn how to positive respond to these feelings. It seems obvious that you are not reading my previous post, or rather just regurgitating talking points, but you should never stop loving your nephew and your nephew can love as many men and women as he likes. I am not saying he should stop loving others. I am saying that the sexual activities that are contrary to nature/biology and God should be properly understood and stopped. If they choose today to continue in this behavior, then God continues to love them and long for them to return (Prodigal Father) from their rebellion before the Last Day. There is always hope and love always dictates.
on February 28,2013 | 11:11PM
UhhDuhh wrote:
My point is, not everyone carries your belief in the bible sir. "Level" means strength of restraint so go back and read my posts. I read your previous posts but they are biased to your bible interpretation. From what I gather, you are saying being gay is not natural but how do you know? You also did not answer my question- if being gay is wrong, how do you correct them? We send murderers and thieves to prison- what do we do with gays? And if they love somebody enough to marry them, doesn't that love conquer anything else? If God deemed it a sin but still loves them, why should they not continue? And lastly,from what I am seeing in your posts, your bible tops any other religion's book of God and all other religions must be wrong becasue their God is not your God if they do not follow your bible correct? That is what I do not agree and that is why I question your posts. Your answers don't make sense to a non-Christian. Aloha.
on March 1,2013 | 07:08AM
pastormatt wrote:
I am a scientist by degree, but I do believe the Bible to be the Word of God, and yes, I agree that there are many who do not share that view. I have no animosity or judgement against them. I would hope they wouldn't of me. How does one change their actions that are harmful/ destructive/ unprofitable, through education! I don't necessarily believe that one can easily change themselves, but the Word of God does. Love does not conquer all because love in this world often is self-seeking and biased upon cultural ramifications. As Christians we look at love in the cross of Jesus, one that is independent of feelings, tastes, looks, money, one that loves those who reject and despise and seek our destruction. You are correct that my posts affirm that there is one truth, not many. This truth has been around since the earliest verbal and written histories. It is a truth that is unique in that no other religion even gets near it. The truth of love that God would leave the glory of heaven to become a fragile child, grow and care for all (no matter their age, nationality, or sex), and would willingly give His life for all people, even those who reject and despise Him. Every other world religion is about how to become more god-like or how to manipulate divine powers for personal benefit. Christianity is about becoming less of self and loving as we have been loved. The truth that the world is not flat or that there are many organisms in a drop of stream water or that there are atoms or the vastness of space are all things that we needed to learn, or have revealed to us, the same with the truth of God's Word. If you don't hear it or believe it, then the variations of how you interpret the truth are a numerous as the sand on the beach. Aloha.
on March 1,2013 | 10:13AM
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