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Coach Arnold wants to stay at UH

By Ferd Lewis

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LAST UPDATED: 11:29 a.m. HST, Mar 21, 2013


University of Hawaii athletic director Ben Jay said today he has already been contacted by an attorney for Gib Arnold to discuss an extension of the head basketball coach's contract.

Arnold, who concluded his third season with a 69-65 CollegeInsider.com Tournament loss to the Air Force Academy on Wednesday, finished 17-15 (10-8 in the Big West Conference) and will go into the final year of his current three-year deal July 1st.

A 20-victory season would have guaranteed Arnold a one-year rollover of his $344,000-a-year deal, according to terms of the current contract.

Arnold was expected to head out on a recruiting trip this week.

Jay said he plans to meet with Arnold "after a while" to discuss the season and the future. "I want to see where he's at in recruiting," Jay said.

Arnold is 52-44 in three seasons at UH.







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billybob_76 wrote:
Say no to another extention. We're tried of mediority.
on March 21,2013 | 10:47AM
allie wrote:
agree..he is an utter failure. If we are going to overpay, why not get a better coach? Look at what Laura Beemer did in one year!
on March 21,2013 | 12:00PM
ya_think wrote:
17 - 13 nothing to yell about.
on March 21,2013 | 12:08PM
alikarx03 wrote:
who do you all think is willing to come and coach in Hawaii for that pay??!! we're not gonna get a Coach K type...or even a good young coach like Tom Crean at IU....Gib Arnold is doing a decent job. compare his first 3 year record with Riley Wallace...who was here for 20 years....and Gib's is better. as far as keeping players here...thats tough. kids from the midwest to east coast get home sick...it happens. can't control that. and if they're grumbling cause of playing time like a few of the transfers were, then that's they're own fault. the coach is gonna determine who plays. and in basketball it is a total team sport...great individual players won't get us very far. my only comment for Gib would be to try and get 1 or 2 of the good local high school products, that would help a lot in generating more interest in the program.
on March 21,2013 | 02:54PM
kp3409 wrote:
Gib needs to meet with the Coach K types and pick their brain on how to coach your players up and get the most out of all of them. Thats the real problem.
on March 21,2013 | 02:59PM
64hoo wrote:
not really gib is a young rookie coach as years go by he will get better and better and beat these other coaches that have10 to 15 years more experience than him. gib will be a good coach. now that he has all his own recruits he got himself will see how they do in 2 to 3 years,
on March 22,2013 | 05:05PM
2disgusted2 wrote:
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on March 21,2013 | 06:14PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
2disgusted2 you really are a wackadoodle!! It's no wonder you and the nut bar allie often sound like clones of each other...I'll have a nut bar covered with wackadoodle on the side!!
on March 21,2013 | 06:54PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
allie..."an utter failure"? You and your exaggeration and desire to kick folks who have done you no harm betrays you as an immature, loudmouthed latchkey brat. Coach Arnold may not have been able to achieve the results we would like but he is by no means a "failure". Perhaps you would dispel well deserved reputation as an incompetent loudmouthed troll by developing some social skills and learn to conduct yourself as an intelligent adult rather than a spoiled rotten only child.
on March 21,2013 | 04:09PM
2disgusted2 wrote:
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on March 21,2013 | 06:14PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
2disgusted - ALL-LIE could not knowingly utter the truth it would be too disorienting to him. As for you 2disgusted how would YOU know anything about the truth? You're too busy claiming Asian women stole your husband, right? Are you along with foursun another of ALL-LIES alternate screen names?
on March 21,2013 | 06:45PM
64hoo wrote:
look what Arnold did in his first year 19 wins better than beeman
on March 22,2013 | 05:01PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
If the Big West is going to be where UH basketball will live then we need a coach that will be able to coach to be successful at this level. It might not be at the lofty standards of PAC-10 schools but it will provide worthy competition. I wish Coach Arnold the best but this is not the place for him just as it was not the place for his father.
on March 21,2013 | 04:00PM
64hoo wrote:
look at what gibs father did at byu for over 20 years he did an excellent job over there and retired than came here for one year and did not do good because he did not have good players like his son has over here. if gib stays for along time you will see a good u.h, basketball team under his tenure.
on March 22,2013 | 05:10PM
niimi wrote:
I think Gib should get a raise for having to put up with so many whining fans.
on March 21,2013 | 05:03PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
I'm sure you would, personally I think he'd be a much better D2 or JC coach. He's proven that he can't be competitive at a Lower Mid D1 conference after 3 years. If he were going to do anything he would have by now.
on March 21,2013 | 06:48PM
johnnykailua wrote:
I look at this failed CIT experience as an investment in determining the future of coaching for the basketball program. I like coach Arnold in some ways but ultimately he will not be successful here. AD Jay should learn from this mistake that we need to look elsewhere for the future leadership of our program. Too many recruits (guards) did not stick by coach Arnold over the past three years. There has definitely been a failure to compete in league play in regular season and conference tournaments. The team has failed to perform well in our own preseason tournaments. Finally coach Arnold was given the opportunity to prepare his team to compete in a postseason tournament format and was not up to the task. It is never nice to think that someone should lose their job but in this case it is clear that coach Arnold should not be renewed. I am sorry but coach Arnold is not the man for this job.
on March 21,2013 | 10:51AM
serious wrote:
None of the UH major sports are successful. I think the Athletic Department should stick to proven winners: beach volleyball and concerts!! Those get the attention.
on March 21,2013 | 10:56AM
allie wrote:
some truth in that..giggle
on March 21,2013 | 12:00PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
What dribble and total Id..t.
on March 21,2013 | 03:54PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
allie...for someone that poses as a college student you act like a very immature, banal pre-adolescent. On the one hand you claim to be a student at UH but at all times you fail to display any signs of intelligence worthy of any hint of a college level intellect.
on March 21,2013 | 04:16PM
64hoo wrote:
if you get a new coach it won't get any better because you have to start all over again with a new coach and will be going through this again. as I heard on a sports radio broadcast last week when you keep changing coaches every three years you lose recognition and stability to your program. you have to keep a coach for a long time and I think gib is that coach
on March 22,2013 | 05:17PM
williamb wrote:
I agree with waiting to see the recruiting efforts. There is a good cadre of current players returning.
on March 21,2013 | 10:58AM
honopic wrote:
Coach Arnold would get his one-year rollover if the team won 3 more games. The easiest way to do that would have been improving their free-throw shooting. The 'Bows missed 214 FT in 32 games, an average of 6.7 per game. They lost 6 games by 7 points or fewer and 4 games by 4 or lfewer. That, in a nutshell, is the reason for the disappointing season. Now he is on the on the bubble and needs an attorney to deal with UH on his coaching future. Only 4 of the 12 players made 70% or more from the line. Had he kept the other 8 in the gym after practices to improve their shooting, his job wouldn't be in jeopardy.
on March 21,2013 | 11:02AM
PokeStop wrote:
Learn to play some defense. Opponents were killing the Bows all season long with 3-pointers. Air Force proved this point last night and they didn't even have their top scorer playing.
on March 21,2013 | 11:19AM
culi wrote:
Let him coach another year and let him go.
on March 21,2013 | 11:13AM
Valleyisle57 wrote:
Why? So he can give Hawaii fans another boring and meaningless season? Find someone who knows basketball and knows how to make a team work together!!!!
on March 21,2013 | 01:26PM
AieaJon wrote:
Switching from the WAC to the Big West did cause some problems since he initiallly recruited for the WAC, not the Big West. I don't fault him for that. He started making the shift last year and will recruit better fits this year. Roll him over one year but cut his pay by 10% for this extra year due to the disappointing year we had for many of the reasons people have given. I am sure he would agree that he didn't do a good job this past year but I do see real promise with the players we have. He should share in the poor performance this past year. If he doesn't take the cut in pay for one more year, we fnd someone else. Leave the rest of his bonus package. If he performs at or less than this past year next year, let him go.
on March 21,2013 | 11:55AM
allie wrote:
minor league schedule=minor league salary
on March 21,2013 | 12:01PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
allie, I would agree that individuals should be compensated at the level of their achievement. So tell us all THE TRUTH...what is it that you do for a living? I belive it was a janitor at a pizza restaurant was it not?
on March 21,2013 | 04:19PM
billybob_76 wrote:
Quit making excuses for the man. Gib stated he first recruited to beat Utah St and New Mexico St. That's would have been 4 games for the whole season that he recruited to win, what about everyone else?. This is not the NBA where player personnel remain the same forever. If he recruited that way in his first year then he needs to go immediately. What's he doing now, recruiting to beat Long Beach St and Pacific only? What a lame excuse by the coach and the fans who buy into it.
on March 21,2013 | 12:13PM
AieaJon wrote:
Are you a season ticket holder and willing to pony up more money? Didn't think so. You beat Utah St. and New Mexico St., there is a good chance to beat a bunch of ther teams. Agree, players change but you need a reaonsable strategy of where to focus considering all our obstacles, like recruiting to Hawai and lack of money. You beat Long beach St. and Pacfic home ans away and you probably beat a whole bunch of other Big West teams and maybe going to the Dance or the NIT.
on March 21,2013 | 04:30PM
roughrider wrote:
Totally agree with AieaJon. Nice to see someone give it some thought before putting it into words. I'm not a strong advocate of Arnold's, but I'm also tired of the three-years-and-change mentality. Give him that added year, at that reduced salary, and see what develops. The returning players, including two promising redshirts, and at least one of the presently signed recruits, give Arnold a good foundation work with. And, no, Riley ain't coming back (you know who you are).
on March 21,2013 | 01:24PM
Valleyisle57 wrote:
I didnt realize coaches recruited to compete in conference play only. News flash AieaJon....a good coach and team competes successfully in ANY conference, home and AWAY, and under ANY circumstance.....period!!!
on March 21,2013 | 01:29PM
AieaJon wrote:
Are you a season ticket holder and willing to pony up more money? Didn't think so. Be reaslistic. We are not Duke. Recruiting will always be difficult. We won;t pay our coach big bucks to overcome these obstacles, if anyone can. 60% of our games are in conference and it is reasonable to focus there. We win the conference we qualify for the Dance.. Hopefully can win couple games to the Sweet 16.
on March 21,2013 | 04:21PM
BTO wrote:
Big West Teams Got Killed in the NIT?? WAC was a stronger conference. I think we need a midwest coach who has access to more physical midwest and further east players. The PAC12 and MWC will get the size and muscle on the west coast leaving the WCC the B and the WCC the C players, BWC always has good guard play but few big man talent.
on March 21,2013 | 04:27PM
papaya wrote:
Time to go for all the reasons already stated.
on March 21,2013 | 12:25PM
Oahuan wrote:
OH HELL NO!!! NO MORE MEDIOCRITY!!!
on March 21,2013 | 12:25PM
hon2255 wrote:
Ben can have him work this last year and if team starts out bad first 12 games next season then let him go, Gib needs to show drastic improvement in this Big West Conference that is a step below what we used to call the WAC and now Mountain West!
on March 21,2013 | 12:33PM
niimi wrote:
The real question is, "Do we as the fans want him to stay at UH?" Is he another Frank Arnold?
on March 21,2013 | 12:53PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
I believe after 3 years, he's proven to be a chip off the old block. Sorry
on March 21,2013 | 06:49PM
Muraoka wrote:
In the immortal words of that famed philospher Roberto Duran: "NO MAS."
on March 21,2013 | 12:57PM
Mana07 wrote:
Something has been wrong with the "mojo" of the team throughout Gib's tenure. HE has cleaned house twice with poor end results. It is now time to clean the house of HIM. Nothing personal, Gib, just remembering what the program was like 10 years ago and seeing what it is today.
on March 21,2013 | 01:13PM
visitor wrote:
Disappointing to see gifted players remain about the same throughout the season. They need coaching to hone their skills and show improvement. The problem is there isn't noticeable improvement. Also embarrassing to allow Vander to behave the way he has. Strong coaching and discipline were needed. How can you allow your senior center walk out and essentially quit the team during a game intended to give the seniors and the team another opportunity to make up for a poor showing in the conference tournament? Need more stern discipline. Bet that would never happen with Chow, Shoji or Beeman.
on March 21,2013 | 01:55PM
Bumby wrote:
Give him another year. He will finally have a true point guard and hopefully a small forward wing man that can shoot from the outside on a consistent basis. The one and two guards seems to be solid. If the post man whomever that maybe can play big inside next year, than it will be a better team. Then the coaching comes into play. Maybe he needs to look at someone who can coach up the guard play.
on March 21,2013 | 02:49PM
Bumby wrote:
One thing for surel the majority of the players that came in the first year are finally gone. Whatever reasons the majority of them were like children always pouting not having their way. There were and or is a few good ones like Miah and Davis that have a good head on their shoulders. Discipline and respect needs to be reinforced. Many times people lose respect because of what is said which is not done. Also start talking up about the recruits. They were given more hype than their talents.The players need to be given the attitude that they are good players but there are a lot more that are better. To be a champion cannot live on your past accomplishments but look at what needs to be done to be the best and to be the greatest team player ever.
on March 21,2013 | 03:06PM
Bumby wrote:
If Gib is let go the sad part of it is that he probably wants Hawaii to be home for his children. People have some compassion because he has a family too. Many of us may not realize it but Hawaii can be special too many who have lived here for sometime or all their lives. I'm pretty sure that what it is for Gib.
on March 21,2013 | 03:10PM
CartwrightPark wrote:
I understand what you're saying but you have to understand the University has to do what's best for the basketball program. Gib is getting paid a HEFTY six figure salary. While empathy is fine, let's not shed a tear because he needs to move his family to, God forbid, the mainland to find another six figure coaching job.
on March 22,2013 | 07:47AM
AhiPoke wrote:
The reality is that Hawaii fans want first rate teams on a second class budget. That can be done in women's programs due to gender equity providing better financial support than for men's sports. Hawaii fans need to be more willing to provide financial support (contributions, higher ticket prices, etc.) if they want consistent winners. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. Smaller schools on the mainland have larger budgets than UH.
on March 21,2013 | 03:26PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
If Gib Arnold was ever going to do anything here at UH he would have been able to show signs of it in 3 years. His teams have shown a primadonna attitude but sub par performance against a lower caliber Big West conference and especially displayed a complete lack of character against Chaminade and embarrassed UH in front of the fans on Molokai. It's time for him to go.
on March 21,2013 | 03:54PM
berrygood wrote:
AD Jay will be asking Gib a few questions no doubt..How will you combat the threes if you return..Hawaii could have won ten more games if the three wasn't such a factor..How will you control players and do you think the fact that you appear too emotional affects the players and their over reactions on the court..(vander's last game?)...Can you assure us that the folks you recruit will be around for their entire time at UH and not bolt after one year...Can we expect that a player that comes to UH in the future will leave a better player?..So many players have come and either stagnated or gotten worse..The few that really looked good (Vander again) really leave you with that "what if" feeling... I think UH should keep Gib...It would be a long time before the next guy would get it together and UH does have some really good young guys..But there must be some air clearing when it comes to what AD Jay expects to see..and if it doesn't happen, he has the authority to pull the plug..This year could have been very good..But it wasn't..Those reasons should be addressed..Jmo
on March 21,2013 | 03:59PM
danji wrote:
Keep Gib at a salary of $200,000 or less with no insentives cause he doesn't deserve any.
on March 21,2013 | 04:55PM
2disgusted2 wrote:
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on March 21,2013 | 06:15PM
ToopMinaki wrote:
2disgusted2 why do you and allie misspell the same words and use incorrect punctuation in the same way? Could it be that you and allie are the same person?
on March 21,2013 | 07:28PM
CartwrightPark wrote:
Gib's a decent coach, but he needs to KEEP these true freshman at UH if he's gonna recruit them. If not go the JC route because the lack of good guard play was clearly evident this year.Tavita is NOT a starting D1 pg, I dont care what anybody says. He wouldve made a great back up pg. There was no one who could really control the games effectively.
on March 22,2013 | 07:43AM
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