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McMackin retires as Hawaii coach; accepts $600,000 buyout

By Star-Advertiser staff

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LAST UPDATED: 06:46 p.m. HST, Dec 05, 2011


University of Hawaii coach Greg McMackin retired today, ending a four-year career at the helm of the Warriors football program.

McMackin had one season left on a five-year deal worth $1.1 million annually. As part of the agreement, McMackin accepted a buyout for $600,000. The university will begin a national search for McMackin's replacement immediately. UH assistant coach Rich Miano will serve as interim head coach.

A press conference is scheduled for this afternoon after McMackin meets with his coaches and players. He met for more than an hour Sunday night with UH-Manoa chancellor Virginia Hinshaw and athletic director Jim Donovan just after the team's annual awards banquet at the Sheraton Waikiki. None of the three would comment after the impromptu session broke up.

In his four years as head coach, McMackin had a 29-25 record, taking Hawaii to the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl twice, losing both to Notre Dame and Tulsa. The Warriors needed a victory Saturday against Brigham Young to be eligible for the Christmas Eve bowl, but lost to the Cougars 41-20.

McMackin also served two years as former UH head coach June Jones' defensive coordinator. The first time in 1999, Hawaii went to the Oahu Bowl. The second time in 2007, the Warriors went to the Sugar Bowl.

All nine assistant coaches are on one-year contracts that expire March 31.







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Changalang wrote:
Who will be the biggest loser?
on December 4,2011 | 11:18PM
kapoleitalkstory wrote:
So far it has been the tax-payers at $1.1 million a year!
on December 5,2011 | 10:14AM
Hodad wrote:
Sorry, taxpayers only pay base salary. boosters pick up the rest.
on December 5,2011 | 05:53PM
LizKauai wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qvOzQKgE10 This is what some of our players feel about their coaches. God Bless!
on December 4,2011 | 11:26PM
inverse wrote:
Students are NOT objective in assessing the situation as they are knee deep in everything AND if they saying anything negative about Macmuffin, with Macmuffin coaching UH for one more year, that player WILL be in deep kim chee. Only interviews of the players that are PRIVATE between an individual player and someone outside of the UH program who will keep their identity and comments safe from coaches, media, public, etc are what need to be reviewed.
on December 5,2011 | 08:08AM
Eradication wrote:
And, of course, people (haters like you) are totally objective, right? Get real. Coach Mac will graduate all his seniors this year. I call that a resounding success. Student Athletes are the priority!! I don't mind my $1 of tax money being spent on a coach who mentors young players to be good students as well as compete on the playing field. Were they perfect? Not hardly, but neither are any of us. People like you who resort to name calling and character assignations are insignificant. I suggest that people who actually sit and think before posting mindless ramblings will consider the WHOLE spectrum of what a coach is responsible for and recognize that Coach Mac has done a good job in spite of the bad press and frenzied haters. Whatever happens to the future of this coaching staff I for one, and I am only one, feel good about the season.
on December 5,2011 | 09:57AM
atilter wrote:
right-on!
on December 5,2011 | 10:53AM
oldertimer808 wrote:
You are not alone in this assessment of Coach Mack. There are many facets that goes into coaching a STUDENT/ATHLETE. I know our fans were jumping on the band wagon of negativity but you have to be objective. I recall the firing of Coach Wagner and who did we aspire to but a coach who had no affiliation and understanding of Hawaii and proceeded to have the worst seasons coaching at the UH. June Jones looked like a savior as our team went from 0-12 to 9 and 3 but if you recall the next season was a losing one and the haters came out and called for his head. I feel for the season and I'm sure it could have been a success but those injuries hurt plenty. If you expect 4 and 5 star recruits to come to Hawaii than you're in fantasy land. You folks downgrade the walkons but we have an extremely successful walkon program that has produced exceptional players. I wish Coach Mack and his staff the best no matter what happens.
on December 5,2011 | 11:03AM
Warrior808 wrote:
Yes, before any decision is made, the whole State of Hawaii needs to look at the big picture. Sure everyone loves to have a winner, but are we really ready to pay the price - I mean is the whole state ready to go all in and support the UH athletice program. Why is Boise State football program so successful, after being in Div. II not too long ago? - they had a blueprint for success and followed to a "T". Their athletic facilities are second to none and they are financially sound. The whole State of Idaha has bought into their program. Are we ready to buy in to our Athletic program? This will be a teamwork effort from not only individuals, but also the business community as well. How can we expect to recruit the elite athletes without the All-in approach of the entire State of hawaii. They were many changes in the student/Athlete progress under Coach Mack and he had only four years to recuit the type of players he wanted. The entire State must fully support the UH Athletic program as the Colle footbal landscape is forever changing and we'll be left far behind and almost impossible be able to compete. I know for sure that I for one must change and really support the program.
on December 5,2011 | 01:45PM
Eradication wrote:
Idaho is one of the few states that is operating in the black, economically. Why? Oil versus tourism & military. "All in" for Hawaii means what? Raising the GET? Been there, done that. How about property tax, oh yeah, done that too. How about vehicle tax? Oops, taken already. Fans here want a "Rolls Royce" program but want to pay "VW" prices.
on December 5,2011 | 02:33PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Idaho has oil?time to move back,eh?
on December 5,2011 | 05:29PM
amg17 wrote:
It's their job to produce student athletes AND a winning program. Coaches are paid for performance. When you get paid double the current salary of other WAC coaches, you are expected to win. Unfortunately it's an occupational hazard.
on December 5,2011 | 01:25PM
Taisho808 wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 01:36PM
Eradication wrote:
Sounds like you need to send your resume in for the job...
on December 5,2011 | 02:05PM
pralix wrote:
you know what motivates the players more to perform better? knowing there are fans at the stadium cheering them on.
on December 5,2011 | 02:52PM
PaPakoolau808 wrote:
and you know this from experience, i dont think so.
on December 5,2011 | 04:14PM
pralix wrote:
i know that if i have people around me showing me support, i'd do my best. why play hard if only a few people are watching? who's to impress if no one is there?
on December 5,2011 | 04:44PM
bleedgreen wrote:
So what happened on Saturday? 31,000 screaming fans make a lot of noise. The only missing fan group were the students. How pathetic.
on December 5,2011 | 05:11PM
Eradication wrote:
They are not animals. I'm realistic enough to know that losing football games is part of life. First priority, GRADUATE. Second priority play football and compete. Winning is always great. Nobody likes to lose and yes, it is an occupational hazard that you lose your job if you do not accomplish both. I wonder how many seniors on LSU, Alabama, OK State or any of the top ten schools will actually graduate this year? Well, it does not matter now that Coach Mac has resigned. Be careful for what you ask for, you just might get it. Merry Christmas...
on December 5,2011 | 02:04PM
Jawbr8ker wrote:
Agreed. Anyone that still hangs their hat on the idea of producing outstanding "student athletes" is ignorant. Unfortunately, college football has turned into a business and revenue generating machine...bottom line.
on December 5,2011 | 02:04PM
Eradication wrote:
Exactly, and we should be paying the athletes as athletes and not as students. They pay their own way to school and we pay them to play. That way we can fire them too if we (press & other haters) don't like them. (NOTE: Because people here will actually take me seriously, I feel it is important to let you know that I am joking. FYI)
on December 5,2011 | 02:39PM
waverider808 wrote:
well said and i totally agree with you.
on December 5,2011 | 02:30PM
Br_tus wrote:
PLEEEEZZZZ .... At HARVARD or YALE or some other PRIVATE University you can be concerned about the IDEAL of graduation rates over field performance .... UH is a PUBLIC University. I (and many other "haters") DONT want my tax dollars going to pay for some other kids books, tuition, etc, etc. in exchange for more of the JJ/Mac show. THEY have been the ones touting this or that player as "THE BEST" this or that 'in the Nation' ..... It's people like you who accept sub standard effort on the part of Coaches that rub off on the players and thus the team - All the while claiming to be "THE BEST in the World." The Athlete is GIVEN the chance to be a STUDENT simply by being allowed into the UH. That's on the player to take advantage of that. The Coach's JOB is the FOOTBALL. We've had past recruits who played well, graduated AND went onto the NFL before. Mac has failed. Period. Hire him as a tutor if you want Graduation rates!
on December 5,2011 | 02:40PM
Eradication wrote:
UH is a State University vice Public University. Let me guess, you went to a Public University. Anyways, the reality of it all is that very few of the athletes, percentage wise, who run onto the field receive full scholarships (key word: SCHOLAR-ship). The majority are out there, paying their own way. They play for the true love of it. Any coach who doesn't care about the graduation rate of his team doesn't really care about the TEAM and settles for "sub-standard" student/athletes. That is the travesty of college athletics today and people like you (who went to Public Universities) accept that and in fact endorse it.
on December 5,2011 | 03:14PM
Taisho808 wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 03:26PM
Matsu wrote:
taisho808- Actually I found Eradications commenst to be well-thought out and mature. Didn't see anythin in any of his statemenents that sounded cry-babyish.
on December 5,2011 | 03:57PM
Eradication wrote:
Actually Mr. Taisho808, I'm well past college age (unfortunately) and don't need to whine for anything or anyone. I don't have to resort to childish name calling or short cited comments from fans (as I'm sure you are one of them albeit on the "bandwagon" like many others) who are one dimensional. I prefer to look at things realistically and practically. However, I like your description of my view of the world. It's only football, man. It's not life. It is fans such as yourself that have lost contact with reality and have made this game more than it is and the players and coaches in it bigger than life. Get a grip. It is only a game. Nothing more. Was he overpaid? Probably. Is it his fault that the administration saw fit to pay him that much? Hardly. What's more important winning the WAC or graduating as many players as possible? I prefer the latter. Better yet, both but that is often not possible. Winning games is the icing on the cake. I feel bad when I read about a player who was a star in college, didn't make it to the pro's, without a degree to fall back on trying to deal with the fact that they believed all the "hype" the press and fan base put on them as players. I regress, sorry. Coach Mac was a good coach, mentor, and human being. He took care of his players ensuring they went to class and now he will graduate his senior class players. I say well done coach. BTW, a CEO oversees ALL aspects of a corporation not just the production line...
on December 5,2011 | 07:09PM
Hwa_Tam wrote:
great comment era! everyone should be careful of what they wish for, no graduate players??? kidding me right, then you going have a bunch uneducated adults being a burden on public assistance programs. college education goes a long way to a person's future earnings. tons of research have already shown this! remember back in the 80's and 90's with all the success st louis HS had and all the rubbish kids getting into trouble then? what about major programs with all the different arrest?
on December 5,2011 | 08:59PM
atilter wrote:
so why have it reviewed at all??? they could be made up by some "ghost writer"!
on December 5,2011 | 10:52AM
clan4irish wrote:
Your personal hatred and prejudice are examples of many who see Hawaii football as everything; and only really brings out the true nature of who you are. Have another one.
on December 5,2011 | 07:28PM
AZHawaiian wrote:
I think UH will end up letting him coach next season. They cant afford to pay Coach Mack his contract and get a good coach to come and replace him.
on December 5,2011 | 05:27AM
Charliegrunt wrote:
It will probably cost less than playing a whole season in an empty stadium and mass cancellation of pay-per-view. The also should consider whether to retain the fool responsible for offering him approximately the same salary as the head coach at Boise State, who had a proven record of back to back seasons as WAC chamption and BCS bowl games.
on December 5,2011 | 05:36AM
Changalang wrote:
Yup; and that the Polynesian NorthWest college recruit pipeline is back in full force. Politically, it is good to let McNugget set the bar real low in the Mountain West. Starting from the bottom will give the next coach an easier narrative to build on and start from.
on December 5,2011 | 08:54AM
frontman wrote:
McMackin future discussed........This man should have been FIRED
on December 5,2011 | 05:29AM
Hwa_Tam wrote:
MaMackin is a class act, i felt he should have been fired as well, not because he isnt a good guy, but more for the on field record. that being said the man just saved UH 500k... if he waited to be fired they would had to pay him his full salary. so say what you like, the guy is a class act!
on December 5,2011 | 02:51PM
Bayman wrote:
i would take 600k and graciously retire..lets see, coach for 1.1 million or just retire and do nothing for 600k...seems pretty simple to me...if he was class, he would just retire, period, no buyout...
on December 5,2011 | 04:30PM
Hwa_Tam wrote:
i said he was a class act, not stupid.
on December 5,2011 | 05:13PM
Eradication wrote:
Too funny!!!
on December 5,2011 | 07:19PM
fstop wrote:
I seem to recall that if he was fired, he would collect $1.1M BUT not be allowed to accept another coaching job next year. I suspect, however, if he resigns, he gets $600K and may accept another coaching job, so the penalty is not that large. Also, his salary was cut more than 10% last year, so that his actual salary was not actually $1.1M, so he is not taking a true $500K pay cut.
on December 5,2011 | 05:24PM
Hwa_Tam wrote:
that is right, he voluntary took a pay cut... like i said classy guy! not sure of the specifics of contract but his actions are forthright. wasnt the best coach, but a good person!
on December 5,2011 | 09:05PM
Eradication wrote:
Good comment. Most people on here will disagree with you and feel like he should just walk away without receiving a dime. Of course, they would not do that themselves if it were them but that would be a different situation because it would involve them. I disagree with you however in one aspect. Coach Mac is a class person, hardly an act. Hope UH does a decent job in hiring his replacement.
on December 5,2011 | 07:19PM
Hwa_Tam wrote:
never said he was acting, saying it he is a class act.
on December 5,2011 | 09:08PM
MrRealistic wrote:
Mac was never a head coach in division 1 football, but yet UH hired him and paid him over $1 million a year. What were they thinking? If he had a proven track record or some credentials to back up that kind of money, then sure. Isn't the University basically a business or at least run like one? If so, then maybe they should have given him a contract based on performance. A base salary plus bonuses for wins and bowl games- pretty simple, oh Yeah like other major Universities do. What a waste of money that snowballed into a loss of revenue, which is supposed to be the Unversities top money maker. Under 30k attendance at the only sport that comes close to a professional game (asisde from the Pro Bowl) for local fans- disappointing to say the least. I'm sure the school has plenty of departments needing funding to help educate our kids so they don't make the same idiotic decisions that Henshaw and Donvan made. Pay home off- start new and don't make the same mistake twice.
on December 5,2011 | 05:36AM
niimi wrote:
Yup, all he did was win the WAC last year. Yup.
on December 5,2011 | 05:50AM
frontman wrote:
Three way tie in the WAC (weakest athletic confrence). Hec. Obummer could coach and win the WAC
on December 5,2011 | 07:29AM
Willieboy wrote:
june jones only TIED for 1st in the WAC, then finished 3-9 the following year and it took another 7 years to win another WAC title.... what's so different?
on December 5,2011 | 10:58AM
Eradication wrote:
I knew it....another "winger"!
on December 5,2011 | 02:07PM
pralix wrote:
with the two other teams finishing the season ranked in the top-25. not a bad finish.
on December 5,2011 | 02:54PM
atilter wrote:
and it wasn't all his fault!
on December 5,2011 | 10:56AM
KamaainaUH wrote:
Mack always says "he took full responsibility" for whatever happened to the team. What wasn't his fault? Injuries, yeah, but all College teams suffer with injuries.
on December 5,2011 | 02:58PM
pralix wrote:
The blocked kick at SJSU wasn't his fault. If they made it, UH would have won, made the bowl (barely), and Mack would be back next year.
on December 5,2011 | 03:39PM
Matsu wrote:
Yes, every team has injjurines, but when they happen to your offensive line, leading recievers, and quarterback, there are not many teams in the country that could pull off a winning season.
on December 5,2011 | 04:01PM
Tanabe wrote:
I didn't mind them hiring Mac, and I wouldn't mind an extension IF he took a drastic pay cut. Like to half of what he's currently making. He hasn't done too bad of a job, but he's just nowhere near June Jones' caliber.
on December 5,2011 | 05:48AM
revintampa wrote:
Tanabe, that does sound reasonable. $1M was quite a bit. But Coach took a beating when Moniz went down but then again, UH lives by the run and shoot and ended up dying by the lack of run and lack of shoot. I can only listen to games here in Florida but would attend if I were still in the islands. I hope they turn things around next year by cutting Coach's salary in half, boosting the assistant coach's pay and get a good recruiting class of players into the pipeline.
on December 5,2011 | 10:55AM
sonnyboy wrote:
C'mon man, don't you know it's a $ business thing. UH is drowning in red ink and he's adding to it. A drastic pay cut? you'll get what you paid for, sitting @ aloha stadium w/ your buddies & watchng losers play. Have fun doing it.
on December 5,2011 | 12:28PM
Eradication wrote:
The only loser here is you.
on December 5,2011 | 02:08PM
ghstar wrote:
I read the other day that Joe Paterno was paid just over $500,000 a year. Mc Macken got very lucky a couple of years ago and he knows it. He can stay, for all I care, but if he does he needs a realistic salary, like, say, no more than the Governor gets. They are a good pair.
on December 5,2011 | 05:48AM
Pualena wrote:
Not to trash Mac. Just make the change now so not to effect the future anymore.
on December 5,2011 | 05:59AM
Ripoff wrote:
Get rid of him. Thanks to Herman, we were left with a sub par HC.
on December 5,2011 | 06:20AM
jusmetwocents wrote:
There's really not much to discuss besides when will you have your office cleaned out... Coach Mack was over-paid and he was an underachiever. 6-9 is unacceptable and some of those nine loses were horrendous loses! I was at the BYU game on Saturday... Uh was hanging tough through the first half. When the team came out for the second half, they just rolled over like dogs. The entire coaching staff needs to take the hit on that ugly performance.
on December 5,2011 | 06:21AM
Carolynne wrote:
they've been doing that most of the season, not only in the BYU game.
on December 5,2011 | 08:23AM
Buido wrote:
UH played 15 games this season ??? ... I guess I missed a few ... I think you were in the drinking section at the BYU game ...
on December 5,2011 | 10:52AM
Eradication wrote:
Exactly. Were you expecting intelligence, perhaps?
on December 5,2011 | 02:10PM
smarkhams wrote:
Two words..."Dennis Erickson" formerly of Arizona St. He got paid 1.275 mil and he's a way better coach. Yes, he's a long shot to come here, but you might as well swing for the fences. Besides, his previous stops before Arizona St. was Idaho and Wyoming.
on December 5,2011 | 06:45AM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Get real with Erickson he is an "I" man and he will not fit in Hawaii.
on December 5,2011 | 11:06AM
jimmyhouse67 wrote:
Erickson has character issues, just ask Idaho about the circumstances in which he left. He' ll have no loyalty to UH. Poor choice.
on December 5,2011 | 01:52PM
Hwa_Tam wrote:
he has a drinkie drinkie problem
on December 5,2011 | 02:58PM
allie wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 06:53AM
oldertimer808 wrote:
How can you make such a idiotic assumption that he took advantage of the committee. Unbelievable but I guess you were at these meetings.
on December 5,2011 | 11:07AM
allie wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 12:09PM
fstop wrote:
Not the past president...the current Chancellor.
on December 5,2011 | 06:39PM
allie wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 06:56AM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Oh now you know that our program is scandal-plagued. Is this how you go thru life making one assumption after another. It's like when someone starts an untrue rumor than as it passes along it becomes bigger than life and grows to what it actually started out to be.
on December 5,2011 | 11:10AM
Eradication wrote:
OT808, why are trying to make sense from people who have none? It only gets more frustrating.
on December 5,2011 | 02:13PM
psherman wrote:
one would think they didn't have the $$$ to pay him out and get a new coach but if enough people want him out and are willing to donate the extra funds to find an new coach, well that could be done. as i recall, they were just given a 5 million dollar check at the game from na koa and another $50,000 from another fund. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
on December 5,2011 | 06:59AM
nodaddynotthebelt wrote:
I'll put in my suggestion for a new coach: Ken Niumatalolo of Navy.
on December 5,2011 | 07:48AM
inverse wrote:
Why would he come to Hawaii? I think his current salary is around $1 million at Navy as well and he does not have to deal with the bozo UH administration.
on December 5,2011 | 08:10AM
atilter wrote:
hooo-ya
on December 5,2011 | 10:59AM
oldertimer808 wrote:
More like bozo fans.
on December 5,2011 | 11:12AM
clan4irish wrote:
And people like you.
on December 5,2011 | 07:39PM
UHFAN1984 wrote:
His salary is 1.8 per year
on December 5,2011 | 08:56PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Another Coach Wagner and Paul Johnson system that got hacked by the fans that lead to Coach Wagner being fired. You think Coach Ken would want to coach here knowing the kind of fans we have here.
on December 5,2011 | 11:12AM
BIGDADDY4040 wrote:
Why would he leave a better program for UH
on December 5,2011 | 02:41PM
Eradication wrote:
Good suggestion. Probably not going to happen but good suggestion anyways.
on December 5,2011 | 07:26PM
BigOpu wrote:
Timing is everything. Mac scored with the JJ fallout. UH won't be putting up those numbers again, so not sure if a brand named coach is in the cards. Cut his salary to $350k, and give the balance to Shoji...Shoots, Pat Hill would do it for that much since he's out of a job. I'm sure he'd want to run up the score against Fresno annually, and that would be fun.
on December 5,2011 | 07:54AM
2_centz wrote:
McMackin has done a job well enough to be rehired. I think he should let Tomey go and get younger coaches to assist him.
on December 5,2011 | 08:21AM
all_fed_up wrote:
If anyone deserves the $1.1 mill....It's Dave Shoji. His record says it all.
on December 5,2011 | 08:24AM
allie wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 09:11AM
kapoleitalkstory wrote:
Right on!
on December 5,2011 | 10:15AM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Ahhh the true motives come out.
on December 5,2011 | 11:13AM
Eradication wrote:
Apples & Oranges....
on December 5,2011 | 02:15PM
CouchPotato wrote:
I fully agree $1.1 million, Dave Shoji for Head Football Coach and a 5-year contract. Brilliant! Discussion over.
on December 5,2011 | 12:07PM
desert_kanak wrote:
Hello no - Shoji chokes....University of Choke at Manoa can't win the big one because of him....last Nat Championship was decades ago...with all that talent, they should win at least one National Championship in the 90s or 2000s. Choke!!
on December 5,2011 | 05:14PM
Eradication wrote:
Wow, the guy wins over 1000 matches in his career and he is a choker? The winningest active coach in college volleyball? Time to get off of the crack, man.
on December 5,2011 | 07:29PM
desert_kanak wrote:
Reality is a b*&tch. Case in point - USC vs University of Choke at Manoa match last night. Same result, different year; lots of wins versus crappy teams in conference, but he can't coach his teams to beat the elite teams. And he's got the talent to go all the way. It's been over 2 decades since that last national championship in 1987. Time for Shoji to park the bus. Choke!!!!!
on December 10,2011 | 05:41AM
jrboi96786 wrote:
I know money is tight. Letting go of Mac is even more tighter. But I think its more expensive to keep Mac around when most of the fan base have already lost their confident with their football team. I mean the players themselves seems like they don't even care anymore. UH students doesn't even wanna show up to the game. I think its already been proven, like Boise State. Even if it would cost the UH its whole annual budget, a major investments on its football team would pay off a lot eventually. Hire a good coach.. $2 to $3 million a year? ok. $25 million for 5 years contract... Sure. $500 million over the next ten years for new facilities... THEY REALLY NEED IT! New stadium... THAT WOULD BE NICE. More money for recruitments so that we're actually bringing 3 or more stars recruit rather than 2 starts who doesn't even worth talking about and worst, junior college students, Annual success... Not guaranteed but likely. To the leaderships of UH Manoa. Grow some balls and take a risky move since that you're already in risk. Might as well GO FOR BROKE!
on December 5,2011 | 08:32AM
CouchPotato wrote:
TOTALLY AGREE!!!! We CAN afford anything here in Honolulu just ask Mufi. We need Mufi as Athletic Director and not congressman. Just raise the GET tax another half a percent. Then we can have our $5 billion dollar coach, facility, and stadium with the best freakn recruits money and strippers can buy. Kick everyones as-ses.
on December 5,2011 | 12:15PM
Hwa_Tam wrote:
i like your style
on December 5,2011 | 03:03PM
Kakukilla wrote:
It seems that the Reporters at the Star Advertisers Opinion that UH should change their Head coach. I DON' T THINK it is a good Idea because very poor economic times that University and the rest of the world is having at this time. UH is NOT a UCLA or Notre Dame were if the coach doesn't win enough they can fire them the can afford the lost. UH garantee a 1.1 million annual contract for next year for MAC can UH really afford to pay off MAC and a New Coach? I believe that the UH coaches gave their hearts to the program, I can see that UH players gave their all to play for the program and the STATE of HAWAII. I really hate when people LOVES to make their opinion then sets up the administration to make tough decisions. I have a solution! Fire MAC and Have the Star advertiser pay for his sallery next year and UH can hire some one else.
on December 5,2011 | 08:59AM
ManoaHi wrote:
I actually fault June Jones at making McMackin the defensive co-ordintator. I didn't like him then and hated him when they made him head coach. Remember his first year? He spent most of the time with the defense, even when the offense was playing on the field. I particularly didn't like Rolovich being play caller. Rolovich play calls are so poor, that high school coaches never make such poor calls. I think the whole coaching staff should go. Start fresh, now. Don't wait until spring to decide.
on December 5,2011 | 09:09AM
Bayman wrote:
I agree, clean house...all new staff...
on December 5,2011 | 05:29PM
allie wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 09:10AM
Bayman wrote:
why not pony up more too while you are at it...UH tuition is pretty low last time i checked.
on December 5,2011 | 05:30PM
Eradication wrote:
Hi alice. Long time no read....
on December 5,2011 | 07:30PM
LanaUlulani wrote:


If they do decide NOT to renew McMackin's contract, I hope the Lee brothers are offered the opportunity as Cal Lee has an EXCELLENT record at St Louis High School as well as an excellent record RELATING to local players.


on December 5,2011 | 09:33AM
Willieboy wrote:
c'mon get real......
on December 5,2011 | 11:03AM
CouchPotato wrote:
Ronald Regan the movie star became President ... anythings possible given the chance ... Grandma Lingle for Head Coach!!!
on December 5,2011 | 12:23PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Cal Lee now has the credentials to be a college head coach since he was turned down when the opportunity first opened up after the Wagner firing because of lack of college coaching experience.
on December 5,2011 | 11:17AM
Niele1 wrote:
what credentials? HC at a NAIA, Div III, Div II, FCS, or FBS on his resume. Member Jerry Faust and the ND debacle. Big difference from high school to college. Speed and strategy to name a few.
on December 5,2011 | 11:51AM
bleedgreen wrote:
Cal Lee's name may be in the hat, but a decision has to be based on reviewing all the candidates. We don't know who they are at this time.
on December 5,2011 | 05:09PM
allie wrote:
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on December 5,2011 | 12:05PM
Eradication wrote:
Boy, you sure do "flip/flop" alot.
on December 5,2011 | 02:17PM
Bayman wrote:
If they hire cal lee...THE biggest bonehead move ever...of course paying the muffin man 1.1 mil per year was THE biggest
on December 5,2011 | 05:31PM
dashadow wrote:
"Business is War" UH leaders are angry cause the section for UH students are almost empty.
on December 5,2011 | 10:38AM
atilter wrote:
SO JUST ADJUST THE SALARIES! pay the coaches a REALISTIC salary - not an "i-hope-you-can-perform-to-the-money-we're-giving-you" contract!?! maybe tie it to actually winning the game(s)?! maybe get a smaller salary base and then get paid the pro-rated "bonus" after each win from an escrowed account?! maybe it's not all the coaches' fault?! might have been some of the STUDENT-athletes' non-execution on the field?! coaching can only go so far?! at some point the STUDENT-athletes playing the game have to get-her-done?! maybe send in a replacement right after a "slip-up"?! the passes gotta be on the money?! the passes that hit the hands gotta be caught?! the balls that hit the numbers gotta be snaggged?! the PATs and FGs gotta go through the uprights?! the kick-offs gotta reach the end-zone or where it's aimed?! pass blocking gotta be held longer with quicker feet?! maybe just too many injuries to key players?! just trying to broaden the analysis base!!! too many factors in putting together a "winning" season - and iv'e sat through almost every one of them going back to the "termite palace"! sure coaching is important - but so is everything else - going all the way up to the AD's office, and beyond!
on December 5,2011 | 10:49AM
Oahuan wrote:
BYE MACK!!! Don't let the door hit you on your fat wallet!!!
on December 5,2011 | 11:02AM
toke wrote:
Get real everybody! You want people in the stadium? Get rid of pay per view! That has been the biggest reason nobody goes to the games. And the salary! For crying out loud, even when JJ was here, everbody was crying bloody murder about his salaery.
on December 5,2011 | 11:04AM
Wazdat wrote:
seems like they may have let him go and after he talks with the players ancoaches its official.
on December 5,2011 | 11:17AM
nodaddynotthebelt wrote:
Given how much Mr. McMackin is being compensated per year, which totals $1.1 per year, which is more than the governor makes, which is more than what former coach Joe Paterno (one of the most winningest coaches in college football history) who made approximately $500,000 per year, are we getting our money's worth. The answer is a resounding, NO. It is time for the football program to go in another direction and that includes a new coach at a more reasonable salary. I say we should contact Ken Niumatalolo of the Navy football program and make him an offer. There are other deserving candidates within the Hawaii ranks. Now is the time to change the compensation package. Hawaii's economy has been hard hit and the football program's compensation rate should reflect our ability to pay. Further, we should have stipulations on the contract that would make the coach accountable through pay increases that only come into effect after achieving certain tangible goals such as won-loss record and winning the conference. There is no question that we must make a move for another direction. It is foolish to think that keeping Mr. McMackin will result in any better results.
on December 5,2011 | 11:24AM
Eradication wrote:
If you think JoPa only made $500K, I have some beachfront property on Kahoolawe you might be interested in.... Just remember, Penn State has a massive alumni and booster club........
on December 5,2011 | 02:20PM
warriorrebel wrote:
if you think JoePa made only $500,000 a year, you need to get off the pakalolo/crack mix. Most of the top 25 coaches make more money than the state governors.
on December 5,2011 | 02:52PM
bleedgreen wrote:
Records released Friday by the university (Penn State) show the 82-year-old Hall of Famer is Penn State's highest-paid employee, making more than $1.03 million last year. Reference 2009.
on December 5,2011 | 05:27PM
EyeKea wrote:
MAKE NORM CHOW AN OFFER HE CANNOT REFUSE!
on December 5,2011 | 11:32AM
Niele1 wrote:
you would have to double or even triple what Mcmakin is getting now. And at that after UH low balled him the last time I doubt he will take the job.
on December 5,2011 | 11:49AM
Descartes22 wrote:
chow is an elderly career assistant. ring a bell? mcmackin had a distinguished career as a defensive coordinator in several locations. contrast this with chow who did nicely at byu and usc but has failed miserably everywhere else.
on December 5,2011 | 11:51AM
Niele1 wrote:
chow has been at nc state, ucla, utah, and with the tennessee titans. don't think chow is suited to be an nfl coach, but is a great college coach. nc state-winner with phillip rivers, ucla-head coach was slick rick and ran the pistol (neuheisel is not a good hc, i.e. uw, colorado and is always in the grey area of the rules) no prospects, utah-winner invited to a bowl game. get your facts correct. Did well at 4 colleges, sucked at UCLA and Tennessee. Plus i believe chow is making almost $1M at Utah. UH does not have the $. UH better act quick or they will go the same route and hire someone from within the program and we all know how that has worked out.
on December 5,2011 | 01:25PM
AirRescueFF wrote:
Chow had Vince Young at Tennessee. 'Nuff said.
on December 5,2011 | 02:28PM
Bayman wrote:
How about a coach with no ties to the islands, someone young and hungry...
on December 5,2011 | 05:32PM
ahonui90 wrote:
Bring in Norm Chow! End of discussion.
on December 5,2011 | 11:47AM
DonkeyCurl wrote:
Open Aloha Stadium for the Wahine's, I bet we get more there than the BYU game! Winning is everything, it's how you do it! Bozo's at UH! 30,000 fans at a v-ball game at $20/ticket....do I need to bust out the calculator for that? Fire the entire staff at the UH!
on December 5,2011 | 12:06PM
Eradication wrote:
Your name fits...
on December 5,2011 | 02:22PM
TfizzleBizzle wrote:
Norm Chow!
on December 5,2011 | 12:07PM
Descartes22 wrote:
let's get someone who has the energy to vigorously recruit and who is not collecting social security.
on December 5,2011 | 12:15PM
localboieastside wrote:
I think the Hawaii fans like myself want a winning team but the reality is the odds are so much against us to sustain a winning season year after year. Here are my reasons: 1. This state is broke. The UH boosters are not donating compared to other programs. 2. Lack of networking of good players wanting to come to Hawaii. 3. UH Admin. 4. Bad facility (on campus and stadium) 5. Relying too much on J.C transfers. 6. Good local players being offered scholarships to better schools. (don't take it as an insult) 7. The fans here are not as "die hard" as other schools. eg. Michigan, Ohio State, etc. in the snow 8. No long term plan for the football program. Maybe we can get Rick Neishel ?
on December 5,2011 | 12:13PM
ponojr wrote:
Neweasel couldn't win at UCLA with all the facilities and money for recruiting. Do you think he'll do any better here?
on December 5,2011 | 01:36PM
sonnyboy wrote:
If they retain mcmackin, they've accepted mediocrity. So be it, go to division II put bleachers @ cooke field. You might have a sold out crowd. Forget about watching top notch talent and competion. Football will cease to be the driving money train for UH and the state.
on December 5,2011 | 12:37PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
In the last 10 years or so, UH football has NEVER been a money maker so DII is not a bad idea. Put the savings into making UH a nationally recognized academic institution. That in turn, creates jobs which are more than service oriented ones. I remember when UH was DII and they still attracted crowds at the old stadium. Football is football and DII will attract a higher percentage of local players.
on December 5,2011 | 02:08PM
environmental_lady wrote:
How about abolish football altogether? It is a bone-crunching gladiator sport with no redeeming value. No, I don't hate all sports as I'm a big volleyball fan and women's volleyball is the only revenue producing sport. All the other sports are a ballast on the university budget.
on December 5,2011 | 07:27PM
jankenpo wrote:
UH is simply not a team that warrants a coach getting a million plus a year. As someone put it, a bunch of walk-ons starting? Don't get me wrong, these walk-ons did a great job! But the great talent does not come here, certain facts that we must face, like it or not. And please, no former high school coaches or ex nfl players. They really didn't do a good job as UH assistants.
on December 5,2011 | 12:51PM
KekoaBradshaw wrote:
You're right. No matter what, "the great talent doesn't come here" from the mainland and doesn't stay here from local high schools. Remember when ol` June Jones had the name of the team changed to "Warriros" and redesigned th unfirms and introduced the "haka" to make the team more "macho" and attract better athletes. "Rainbows" was too wimpy a name for JJ. It hasn't worked, tho, has it? The question is, what WILL work to bring good talent here or keep it here?
on December 5,2011 | 01:07PM
Anonymous wrote:
New coach consideration.> Robert Anae Kahuku grad, all american gaurd @ BYU during it's undeafeted season. coached @ unlv, texas tech w/mike leach o-line coach and OC. coached @ BYU as OC six winning seasons, six bowl games. currently w/ arizona widctas. may be joing up w/ mike leach @ WSU soon. Was the main guy recruiting hawaii kids to byu. Hurry donovan, he'll do it for 300K-400k.
on December 5,2011 | 12:57PM
Descartes22 wrote:
nice idea. it's this type of guy we should consider - young, successful, hungry assistants who can recruit. and who we can get at a reasonable salary. we actually should've made the play for leach awhile ago - before he realized how much he was in demand and could command.
on December 5,2011 | 01:09PM
ponojr wrote:
Head coaching job for $300K - $400K? I think more like $600K.
on December 5,2011 | 01:25PM
Eradication wrote:
Mahalo Robert but you will have to put your resume in like everybody else.....
on December 5,2011 | 02:24PM
flyingpigs wrote:
Why is it Mack's fault for getting $1 million pay days. It was a negotiated deal, so UH had to agree to pay it. The only comes into play when the team doesn't do well. There's no guarantees in sports. UH is one of hundreds of teams with high expectations to start the season. So called Hawaii fans need to figure out if they want a Div 1 team and if they do, they have to support it win or lose. To many back seat drivers coming out after the fact like they have all the answers. I don't know if Mack should stay or go, but the bottom line is the need to support the program. I also think some of the sports writers are piling on to now, how many columns do we need to read that say the coach needs to go. Once is fine, but seems like Reardon is on a mission to get Mack out.
on December 5,2011 | 01:02PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Coach Mac is a real nice guy. Sometimes too nice. I've watched UH football for 45 years. Recently we have retained a lot of island boys. This is great. But really, Mac has surrounded himself with "older" coaches. Dick Tomey taking over special teams has created some very problem areas this year. I respect Mouse Davis, as the father of run and shoot, but his very old. On the other hand, Rolovich taking over the offense was also a surprise. He is not a tested co ordinator. When Mac had the choice, I would have loved to see Ron Lee take that spot. But after Rolovich got it Lee left the program. Okay, let's ee what will happen next season.
on December 5,2011 | 01:29PM
frontman wrote:
See Toto...........there is a GOD.
on December 5,2011 | 01:41PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
If Mac stays, he should replace the offensive coordinator. With a wide open offense, we should be racking up points like crazy but we were very inconsistent. It's going to be a tough decision by the AD and Regents. If you let Mac go, we still have to pay his 1.1 mil for his last year. With the economy the way it is, it will just be a costly expense. If you keep him, the fans might stay home. Hawaii fans are really fair weather fans so that might be enough to let Mac go but I think if they can tweak his salary for the last year contingent on meeting specific criteria, it might be worth it. Then if he doesn't perform, we can let him go and conduct a search for a new coach. Actually, it's always been my belief that we should downgrade football and go DII. D1 football rarely makes money. If we go DII, we can get more local players, reduce ticket prices and with the savings, upgrade our academics to be a nationally recognized institution. Either that or push some of the money to Dave Shoji who year in and year out, produces a winning team.
on December 5,2011 | 01:43PM
ManoaHi wrote:
Well, Mac is going, But I agree totally with replacing offensive coordinator. Good time to clean house and start fresh. UH should be racking up points but with offensive series without stars, the play calling doesn't even qualify for Intermediate Football. Mac is also still defensive coordinator (acts like one). UH got to the Sugar Bowl because the offense scored a lot of points (ok sometimes the defense). As always, defense wins games, offense sells tickets.
on December 5,2011 | 02:18PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
You know, it's easy to sling mud at someone from a couch but Mac did his best. I think it's a win-win situation so I wish Coach Mac the best going forward. Now the AD and Regents can begin their search for another coach.
on December 5,2011 | 01:47PM
aukai808 wrote:
Forced resignations are not cool, especially after Mac said he planned to honor his commitment. Let's see what Jim Tressel can do!
on December 5,2011 | 01:50PM
Niele1 wrote:
Resign or be fired, were his choices. He took the better one.
on December 5,2011 | 02:01PM
Thor wrote:
Coach Mac did what he could with the hand he was dealt, unfortunately he could not deliver wins and attendance! It's part of being a D1 program.. I say one too many Big Mac's and wish him well, UH needs to move on and clean house of asst coaches! Fresh start for the program, and hire someone who brings it like the Old Coach Tomey in his owner years!!
on December 5,2011 | 01:50PM
Eradication wrote:
Well, what's done is done. Now all the haters have nothing to complain about. At least that's a positive thing. I suspect, though, that now that the press of the advertiser and their bandwagon fans got their wish they will still not be happy with whatever transpires with a new coach and staff. I also think we can say goodbye to most of the prospective recruits who had other universities to choose from. Best of luck to Coach Mac.
on December 5,2011 | 01:53PM
SMUUG wrote:
Amen to the bandwagon peeps in Hawaii. I worked in the Athletics Dept for years and still say Hawaii has some of the worst fans around. Look at Notre Dame, will sell out every game...even if they're 2-10! That's big time D1 football. Hawaii fans will only come out when UH wins...terrible! I admit, I don't go to all the games...because I'm working at them! Hawaii wants a big D1 program but doesn't want to put up the resources for it, it just doesn't work that way.
on December 5,2011 | 02:07PM
buck808 wrote:
Oh boy, there goes Big Mac Mondays.
on December 5,2011 | 01:53PM
aukai808 wrote:
Too bad a forced resignation, especially after Mac said he planned to honor his commitment. Let's see what Jim Tressel can do!
on December 5,2011 | 01:53PM
808BigE wrote:
Say what you want about Mac, but I think he was a great coach. Look at the coaching staff he brought in, along with all the young fresh talent, trevor davis, a shining example. We were plagued by injuries this year, and unfortunately in an offensive scheme like this one you simply can't afford those kinds of injuries, especially on the offensive side. I give Mac credit, he must have felt this coming but he still fought hard to the end, true warrior. I'm sorry it didn't work out. This will soon be all abuzz, and Hawaii fans will again make the mistake that the first thing that needs fixing on a team with a losing record is kick the coach. This is really heartbreaking, cause this man truly deserves a shot at his last year in contract.
on December 5,2011 | 02:02PM
Kawipoo wrote:
lol
on December 5,2011 | 03:19PM
TheKagawas wrote:
I wonder if Joe Pa is looking for work? Hahaha!
on December 5,2011 | 02:04PM
keala wrote:
Hey what about Norm Chow for Head Coach or what about Cal Lee... We need some local men for coaches...
on December 5,2011 | 02:08PM
ponojr wrote:
Wasn't Larry Price a local UH Head Coach?
on December 5,2011 | 02:11PM
Kawipoo wrote:
Lol
on December 5,2011 | 03:18PM
Oahuan wrote:
What are you? NUTS?!!!!
on December 5,2011 | 02:12PM
aiea7 wrote:
Coach Mack, thank you - really did what was best. Best wishes in your retirement (if not in your next job). It really took guts in what you did. Mahalo.
on December 5,2011 | 02:09PM
hawaiifivo wrote:
Hire Eddie Klaneski !!
on December 5,2011 | 02:15PM
RKC808 wrote:
HUh, St. Francis and Sacred Hearts could beat Damien in football. LOL
on December 5,2011 | 03:13PM
Tarakian wrote:
Thanks Coach Mac for your time and effort here in Hawaii! Take care and Aloha! I agree with the the decision on this resignation. New conference and new beginning and new coach.
on December 5,2011 | 02:20PM
M75 wrote:
WHO WILL BE THE NEXT CONTESTANT (candidate coaches) ON THE WHEEL OF COACHES. Well the best of luck ( Hawaii) in finding a new coach and make sure were getting our Tax moneys worth.
on December 5,2011 | 02:26PM
Eradication wrote:
You only paid a dollar......
on December 5,2011 | 03:21PM
shacrashi wrote:
Many people are commenting like they really have a clue on the complexities of running a Div 1 program. Like most things in life there is no simple one sided solution. We are not a major top tier program, that's a fact. In the same sense, our fans don't deserve a top tier program. Fan loyalty, please. We want a running team; no we want a spread option; no we want a west coach offense; no we want runs and shoot; no we want to be more balanced and run more. And, now we want a "Oregon" type offense. Please.... Hawaii, we suck as fans. Sure, the UH Staff didn't peform as expected, and they were let go as a result. So be it, but most fans, including myself cannot run a program like UHs nor do they have (we) the courage, desire, or knowledge to do so. Gamblers that lost money .... Good for you and get a life.
on December 5,2011 | 02:29PM
pralix wrote:
agreed. turning on the BYU game on ESPN2 and looked like only a quarter of the stadium was filled. for a nationally televised game that decided our bowl eligibility,it should have been packed. I mean, if I was on the football team, I'd play harder if I knew I had fan support.
on December 5,2011 | 02:45PM
warriorrebel wrote:
Impatience will cost UH big time money. First we panic and make a mad dash to the MWC promising everyone we'll pay 100% of cost of travel and extra profit money just for comming to Hawaii, and now the MWC will probably dissolve or get watered down because TCU is leaving, SD State, Boise State and Air Force exploring options to leave, the Big12 and Conf. USA will pick up the spares and the confrence is no better than the WAC which didn't cost UH to pay to play. Think the athletic budget is in the red now? Now we get rid of Mac when he was willing and trying to take a pay cut to help the school. Anybody who thought we could win the WAC this yr. was kidding themselves. Hawaii finished just how I thought they would, I was wishing for a winning record, but realistically, returning a defense that was too small and too slow, all starting recievers gone, and a whole new offensive line and running backs, what would you expect? People think we can hire Urban Meyer and all the top recruits would come flocking to Hawaii. Face it people those people rather play on the mainland for the media exposure!!! The only coach I can see Hawaii hiring that could have success is Pat Hill or Norm Chow. Anybody else would be a waste of money. You'd think UH would've learned that after the Wagner firing and the VonOppen hiring, what impatience would cost. Pat Hill or Norm Chow or UH fans be prepared for another 5yrs of an "VonOppen" style dynasty.:-(
on December 5,2011 | 02:36PM
pralix wrote:
gotta look at some positives... Mac was a defensive-minded coach. He let Rolo handle the offense. And this season, The Warriors were ranked 13th in defensive sacks with 35. McDonald's donates money for each sack the UH defense records. The McDonald's charity will rake in some money from that. Good luck Mack.
on December 5,2011 | 02:38PM
realist3463 wrote:
We pay a football coach a million dollars a year and a starting teacher $42,000. What a travesty. No wonder our kids have trouble competing in the job world.
on December 5,2011 | 02:48PM
jaluasa wrote:
You don't fill a 40,000 seat cpacity stadium to watch someone teach english
on December 5,2011 | 02:58PM
kapoleitalkstory wrote:
When was the last time that MacMakin filled the stadium or that the football program broke even? It is the black hole of the UH system. They are so bad that the studetns won't even go and this year the tickets were "free".
on December 5,2011 | 03:32PM
NITRO08 wrote:
THE STUDENT NEVER DID GO!!!!!!!!! IDIOT!!
on December 5,2011 | 05:50PM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
Somebody values sports over education ;( Love Mac--nice guy, but wayyyyy overpaid. He makes over ten times what a public teacher makes, and so if the public wants inprovement, shouldn't we be sinking more $ into teacher salaries? Instead, we got furloughed AGAIN. It's okay, though--more time to waste watching sports instead of teaching our keiki!
on December 5,2011 | 04:51PM
pralix wrote:
I can't believe I'm saying this because I am big on education>athletics but, The athletic programs are the big money-makers for the school. I wish the professors did get paid more but the fact is, what they achieve and excel in will not increase revenues for the university on a consistent basis like a good football team. Only problem right now is the "good football team" part. That's why the school needs to reach for a good coach.
on December 5,2011 | 03:04PM
KamaainaUH wrote:
Yeah!
on December 5,2011 | 02:55PM
poidogg66 wrote:
Why not try to get Dan Hawkins. He left Boise State with an excellent won lost record. I believe he is working for ESPN. He also hired Chris Pederson and left Boise State with an excellent coaching staff.
on December 5,2011 | 03:04PM
Manoa_Hawaiian wrote:
and Mc is laughing as he heads to the bank with hi$ buyout.
on December 5,2011 | 03:06PM
Manoa_Hawaiian wrote:
Time to get Norm Chow here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on December 5,2011 | 03:08PM
NITRO08 wrote:
HAWAII CAN'T AFFORD CHOW!!!!!
on December 5,2011 | 05:48PM
Kawipoo wrote:
Abercrombie better issue some bonds to pay off the incompetent coach who should be returning all his salary.
on December 5,2011 | 03:14PM
pralix wrote:
It makes me wonder where all this negativity for Mac is coming from. He has a career record of 29-25 as a UH head football coach. He shared a wac title with Boise State and Nevada who both finished the season in the top 25 that year. He can't go on the field and play for the team, and he doesn't do the offensive play calling. He can't fill the stadium himself to show the team that the state is behind them. Maybe his salary is too much but he still did as good a job as anyone else in this position could have done.
on December 5,2011 | 03:24PM
frontman wrote:
Hec,he is getting more than he is worth................Micky D's here he comes. Laughing all the way to the bank.
on December 5,2011 | 03:28PM
AhiPoke wrote:
Personally I think it's a sad situation. I realize this is a business in which you're judged by wins and losses but, based on what I observed, Coach McMackin is a good man and that counts for something with me. Personally, I think the UH football program has only a few years left before it becomes history. I think there is little chance of UH hiring a top notch coach who will stay, like Chris Peterson at Boise. I believe Coach Jones left because he knew he'd end up being fired eventually as UH's low budget, lack of facilities, Hawaii's high cost of living and poor fan loyalty all but makes this an impossible job.
on December 5,2011 | 03:39PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Yes it is a sad testament in this day and age for the me now generation. Coach Mack worked hard to do it the right way. I wish him well for he is a good man.
on December 5,2011 | 09:41PM
keawe wrote:
...for me it is another sad day in Hawaii football. Coach Mack and his Staff did a great job for our student athletes. It is a shame that our so called fans can compare Hawaii to those big money programs on the mainland. We will lose a great Coach, not only that, his staff may follow. Coach Mack please forgive those shallow and callous fans as they do not know what they say. Take Care and Aloha.
on December 5,2011 | 03:51PM
buggee808 wrote:
For coach Mac to retire now for a lesser amount of his contract, shows his caring for the program and future of UH football. He could have stuck it to UH and not done anything and collect his $1M. But he stepped down now so that they can get a new coach quickly that will help in recruting. On top of this, he took a pay cut to help save money for UH who is already hurting. Just by listening and seeing his actions with the players, you can tell he cared for his players on and off the field and for the UH football program overall. He had class on his way out by doing it this way... Aloha Coach Mac.
on December 5,2011 | 03:52PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Great comment.
on December 5,2011 | 09:38PM
whs1966 wrote:
IRT Eradication, who writes: "And, of course, people (haters like you) are totally objective, right? Get real. Coach Mac will graduate all his seniors this year. I call that a resounding success. Student Athletes are the priority!!" Please cite your source for this information. This is important since a recent NCAA report of UHM's graduation rates indicated that only 51% of the school's football players graduated "on time," which I believe is within 5 years of starting college. This same report,which is available on line, noted that the graduation rates for other UHM student athletes is much higher than the football player rates.
on December 5,2011 | 04:00PM
whs1966 wrote:
ghstar wrote: I read the other day that Joe Paterno was paid just over $500,000 a year. Hello! The $500,000 per year is his guaranteed retirement income.
on December 5,2011 | 04:02PM
Matsu wrote:
One reason, and one reason only for Coach Mac's early departure- Empty student section for three straight games. No matter what excusese were given, there is not a single athletic dept. in the country who can keep the coach if he has lost the student support. With that said. Can anybody here tell me what school would stand for a schedule where at least five of the teams you play had byes the week before? How is that possible?
on December 5,2011 | 04:05PM
NITRO08 wrote:
Do you go to the games cause I have for years and the student section was always empty! The only people supporting the UH is the older FANS so don't give me this about the students.
on December 5,2011 | 04:22PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
It was never Coach Mack's fault for the low student participation. It has always been this way for years. The apathy of the students has been this way for much too long. If the admin wants to see students participating and rooting for their teams than a concerned effort should be explored to come up with ideas to improve this situation. The students should form a school rally committee to promote all the sporting events.
on December 5,2011 | 09:33PM
Changalang wrote:
What a bargain.
on December 5,2011 | 04:14PM
nanakuli32 wrote:
Don't forget hawking got fired from his last job. That may put your whole comment under questioning anyone lol.
on December 6,2011 | 12:20AM
hvagd1 wrote:
Al Davis said, "Just win baby." UH didn't win games they were supposed to win and capture that weak athletic conference title. No wonder why this overpaid coach is gone. Now, go look for a head coach with a proven track record. No need go beat the bushes for a D1 coach. There are coaches out there from the D2 system with proven records (look at where the Oregon and Notre Dame coaches came from). Hire a coach commensurate with his experience and give him the opportunity. The selection committee picked McMakin because of JJ's recommendation because he was a nice guy and would provide continuity, but he had no measuring stick. Not that I'm saying Dan Hawkins is the guy, but he was from Willamette University in Salem, Oregon before he went to Boise, and look what he did with his system. No need go pay big bucks....just win baby.
on December 5,2011 | 04:25PM
pralix wrote:
How much does SMU pay June Jones? I think it may be worth it to try to get him back at any cost. During his era here, we won games, were nationally recognized, and had packed stadiums, CONSISTENTLY. It may cost some bucks in the beginning, but in the long run, UH could continue where he left off in 2007.
on December 5,2011 | 04:35PM
Pookie_Baby wrote:
Norm Chow all the way!
on December 5,2011 | 04:40PM
Pookie_Baby wrote:
I'd be interested to see what Cal Lee would have to say about what he would do different as head coach.
on December 5,2011 | 04:42PM
kainalu wrote:
Nice to know that the State coffers are full enough to pay a Civil Servant $600K to NOT WORK! How's about we have our next coach be a volunteer, eh? It's about the students, not the sport!
on December 5,2011 | 04:46PM
Bayman wrote:
dream on, its not about the students, its about the sport...who wants to see students study, i want to see football baby!!
on December 5,2011 | 05:36PM
CartwrightPark wrote:
Coach Mack seems like a great guy but the team sorely underchieved this year. Possibly the UH fan base would have been more tolerant of Mack had he just lost to say UW, La Tech, Nevada, and BYU. I think the manner in which UH lost the UNLV, San Jose St, and Utah St games did Mack in. I just hope UH hires the right person. I feel anxiously optimistic for the future of Warrior football!
on December 5,2011 | 04:51PM
Anonymous wrote:
I'm glad he's history. I said he was bad news when he first got the job, and as things played out, he didn't produce.
on December 5,2011 | 05:19PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Did you continue to say that last year. I guess you're sooo right.
on December 5,2011 | 09:36PM
Manapua_Man wrote:
Back in 1995, I was disappointed UH didn't seriously consider Norm Chow. I would like to see him come here and succeed... but I wonder if it's too late now.
on December 5,2011 | 05:23PM
Bayman wrote:
Its too late.
on December 5,2011 | 05:36PM
bleedgreen wrote:
"Reports indicate that Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen is the front-runner for the Penn State job. Mullen signed a four-year contract worth $10.6 million, with a $1.4 million buyout, after the 2010 season - and a reported flirtation with the University of Miami. A raise from his annual salary of $2.65 million would seem like a necessity, if he were to move to Penn State.!" And further, "Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said Meyer would receive an annual base salary of $4 million, plus another $2.4 million in "retention payments" spread over the life of the contract. He can also qualify for supplemental bonuses, such as for winning conference and national championships. Such add-ons can run up to $1 million." reference.December 01, 2011 Joe Paterno's successor likely won't give a Joe Paterno discount By BERNARD FERNANDEZ - Philadelphia Daily News So what should Hawaii pays its next head coach?
on December 5,2011 | 05:33PM
entrkn wrote:
With the distances Hawaii has to travel, even to Aloha Stadium, and their costs, Hawaii HAS TO WIN to make it a viable program. Hawaii should be shopping for a Head Coach who will build and sustain a program of WINNING, year after year. Our new Head Coach should not have to be locked into the Run & Shoot offense... any offense that consistently WINS will satisfy Hawaii"s requirement. Some other relavent thoughts... Aloha Stadium has to be more fan and student friendly... tenting from the sun and rain like a lot of shopping centers?... way better access, NOW, not when the rail transit finally comes... a New Stadium at Manoa like June Jones proposed may be the best thing to do... this is not a simple solution... everything has to be looked at right now and we have to make All the right decisions RIGHT NOW. Hawaii has to win or we will lose our football program.
on December 5,2011 | 05:46PM
sickmanfraud wrote:
Coach Mac's problem was his acceptance of 1.2 mil per year. I'm not faulting him just stating that if he accepted $600000 the pressure to "retire" would have been less. There were a lot of resentment throughout the state at the amount he was paid. $1.2 million for mediocrity was Coach Mac's end. Sometimes nice guys finish last if at all. Thank you for years of dedication to the Warrior program and its young men.
on December 5,2011 | 06:02PM
who_dis_guy wrote:
why are we spending money on this again?
on December 5,2011 | 06:21PM
aiea7 wrote:
JD why don't you be truthful - when asked whether coach mack was forced to resign, you answered 'No" that it was his decision to voluntarily resign. The previous night, on TV, coach mack stated that he intended to complete his 5 year contract. It was only after a meeting with you and hinshaw that he changed his mind? You need to be truthful and don;t think that people are stupid. You folks forced him to resign, if not he was going to be fired. Anyway, I think you and hinshaw were not behind the firing, it was the "committee". And this committee in reality is going to choose the next head coach, not you folks.
on December 5,2011 | 06:33PM
blackkitty wrote:
The bottom line is that we can only afford a $500,000 - $600,000 salary for a football coach. This means hiring the most talented "local" coach who is already has his own house and family established in the islands. This man is Cal Lee, who is the best local recruiter and motivator of young men with a proven track record for winning football gamnes. Saddle up and get someone like Pat Hill to be his assistant coach for recruiting top talent on the West Coast (especially for finding a tight end and a running game to score in the red zone) .. we also need to improve our kicking game (why couldn't we recruit the talented Punahou kicker?). I hope the UH Board of Regents makes the "right" decision and look in their own backyard for the talent and value we already have and can afford to keep. Go Bows!
on December 5,2011 | 06:40PM
Mach2 wrote:
now THAT makes sense to me!
on December 5,2011 | 08:17PM
oldertimer808 wrote:
Cal Lee I'm sure has always aspired to be the Head Coach at UH one day. There are many fans out there that feels he would do an outstanding job of moving this program forward. He now has Division 1 experience which was the knock on him from getting the head coaching job when it was available when VonAppen was fired.
on December 5,2011 | 09:24PM
swec wrote:
No Tomey. He could never beat BYU, ever, and he would likely change the offense. Hire Rolo the offensive coordinator. We have to keep this offense in order to give Hawaii a chance in every game against any team. Remember the past. Running offenses do not work unless you are a big program with big budgets. This passing offense had put us on the map.
on December 5,2011 | 06:41PM
waianae94 wrote:
If you want fans in seats, you MUST lower ticket prices. Period. Also, take away PPV. I know, we need the money and, I know, that's what other schools do. But this is the bottom line: Too expensive = low attendance. We need a combination of a winning team, good opponents, affordable seats, convenient parking, etc. If we can't do this, we can't afford a good head coach.
on December 5,2011 | 06:48PM
Freakzilla wrote:
Season ticket holder for 10 years and yes the losing is frustrating! But the thing that really bothers me is the UH Band...I don't think they have any sheet music for songs FROM THIS CENTURY!!! How do we expect to get the team and fans pumped up when they play Michael Jackson and Walt Disney stuff? (PS Also probably another reason the UH Students dont show up)
on December 5,2011 | 06:54PM
omd111 wrote:
I really like their casual uniform too. Looks like all of them are MIMES in those overall and T-Shirts. They really need to get a better look.
on December 5,2011 | 07:07PM
nanakuli32 wrote:
Mac was a good guy. He should have let go his running back coach which was his o line coach first, then he should have gotten rid of hisnew o line coach, then never should have given oc job to a rookie . But because of his good heart he kept them.good luck coach in your future endeavors we love you for what you did mahalo Nui loa. NOW PLEASE MR Donnavan DON'T PUT MIANO AS HEAD COACH AND PLEASE DON'T BRING BACK TRIPLE OPTION. REMEMBER YOUR JOB IS ON THE LINE BRING US THE NEST POSSIBLE COACH WITH A WINNER ON OFF THE FIELD AND IN THE CLASS ROOM. YOUR MR CLAUSE WE BELIEVE IN YOU.BUT PLEASE NO PROMOTING FROM WITHIN OR YOU'LL BE THE GRINCH THAT STOLE CHRISTMAS
on December 5,2011 | 07:50PM
Bothrops wrote:
Sorry but why do we need a football team? Folks here say the students don't support it. They say we have to win to make enough money to pay for the program (bowl games) but UH has a decreasing budget from the state, and fans complain about the high ticket prices and PPV. So where does the money come from to ramp up the program? Where does it come from to even keep the program? Lots of big talk but who pays for it?
on December 5,2011 | 07:58PM
Mach2 wrote:
bye bye MacMuffin... hope you didn't blow all your money on your fancy house in Hawaii Kai.... that guy is a giant waste of space taxpayer money....
on December 5,2011 | 08:19PM
Changalang wrote:
Good luck, Rich!
on December 5,2011 | 09:00PM
saywhatyouthink wrote:
a good man but a bad coach
on December 5,2011 | 09:32PM
kaneohehi96744 wrote:
Coach Mac is a good guy, but if you are making $1.1 million, the expectations to win and fill the stadium are extremely high. Also, the ways that we lost some of this year's games indicate bad decisions, questionable strategy and poor clock management by Coach Mac. At $1.1 million, these things cannot, and should not be tolerated. In addition, with 85 scholarships, can we designate 2 or 3 to recruit first rate kickers?
on December 5,2011 | 10:12PM
LizKauai wrote:
God Bless... We need it.
on December 5,2011 | 10:44PM
walkhumbly wrote:
Amen "Eradication" your comments are right on. First and foremost, the Warriors are a team of college athletes. As a community (a small one at that) we should be thrilled at the graduation rate of these young men. The pro football possibilities are minimal for many, but with a college degree they are more than a football player. All the trash talk about a coach does affect these young men, after all, they are the ones on the field each week. This year, we watched player after player get hurt and many tried to fight past pain, fractures, and concussions in order to be entertainment for a bunch of pathetic arm-chair quarterbacks. I'd love to know how many of these whining "fans" would go to work with these injuries? And on top of all that, they go to school and try to graduate. Please remember that when you criticize the coach you are also complaining about the players. Yes, there was room for improvement in aspects of the coaching, but keep everything in perspective. Now this team moves into a new conference with a new quarterback and new coaches - expect it to take a few years to get real results. I am truly saddened by the lack of aloha from so many fans. if you really are a fan, you support a team during the downs as well as the ups. I hope our boys can remain strong - physically and emotionally - during this time of transition. Thank you to Coach Mac for what you have tried to do and for what you have done.
on December 5,2011 | 10:51PM
Papakolea wrote:
On the TV news, they characterized the $500,000 of forgone salary as a "gift" back to the UH. How is that a "gift"? UH will end up paying Mack $600,000 next year and another coach around what Mack was paid so our total head coaching cost in 2012 will be around $1.6 million. UH is gambling that next year's coach will be able to fill the stands to the point where they'll collect more than the $600,000 they'll be paying Mack.
on December 5,2011 | 10:52PM
Eradication wrote:
"During a brief press conference Monday afternoon to announce what was billed as McMackin’s ‘retirement’ from the University of Hawaii, UH Manoa’s chancellor hailed the former coach’s dedication to his student athletes. “I am most proud for coach Mac's commitment to graduation because he knows that is the most important outcome for his player,” said Virginia Hinshaw. During McMackin’s reign at UH, he increased the Academic Progress Rate among his football players to one of the highest in the Western Athletic Conference as well as the western U.S. In addition, the graduation rate among McMackin’s football players was the highest in years. The program received a total of 41 academic all-WAC citations during his first three seasons as head coach. “He is the only football coach who has come to graduation, gowned and all, to celebrate the graduation and academic achievements of his students,” said Hinshaw." While only time will tell who actually graduates in 2012, his senior players have either already graduated academically or are on schedule to graduate in the spring. I thinks that's pretty good. The APR results for 2012 will reflect how good a coach he really was. Unfortunately, that wasn't good enough for most folks who only see the players as alter-ego's and living vicariously through their actions on the field only. I guess this all is mute now. I wish Coach Mac the best for he and his family and I wish the best for UH Football in the future. Aloha Coach Mac. See all you haters next year. It's been enlightening reading all your posts. I'm sure I'll get some enjoyment (amusement) reading all the comments for the next several weeks and months.
on December 5,2011 | 11:51PM
eneki808 wrote:
The next UH football coach should not make more that Coach Shojii at $180K per season. Coach Shojii has 4 National titles. Coach Shojii's Is one of the few programs to make money every year. UH has a way of giving the taxpayers money away. Coach McMackin never won anything and UH gave him 1.1 million dollars, next they give UH basketball coach Gib Arnold 240K over 2 years and he never won anything. Then they give Gib Arnold a new contract at $340K per year for 1 winning season, not a National title. Now in 2011 season the basketball team is 2-4. Can we get a refund....
on December 6,2011 | 12:34AM
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