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Hawaiian Airlines expanding with long-range, single-aisle aircraft

The carrier could acquire up to 25 A321neo planes with a total list-price value of $2.8 billion

By Dave Segal

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LAST UPDATED: 06:40 p.m. HST, Jan 07, 2013


Hawaiian Airlines is expanding its fleet again with up to 25 new long-range, single-aisle aircraft that can reach neighbor island markets not economically viable with the carrier’s wide-body planes.

The state’s largest carrier said today it has signed a memorandum of understanding to acquire 16 new A321neo aircraft between 2017 and 2020, with rights to purchase an additional nine aircraft. The expansion is expected to generate roughly 1,000 additional jobs at the airline.

Terms of the agreement were not disclosed but the aircraft have a total list-price value of about $2.8 billion if all of the purchase rights are exercised.

“With its slightly smaller size we’ll be able to open new markets that are not viable for wide-body service, while also being able to augment service on existing routes to the West Coast,” said Mark Dunkerley, president and CEO of Hawaiian.

The long-range, single-aisle aircraft will seat approximately 190 passengers and has a range of 3,650 nautical miles. The acquisition is contingent upon Hawaiian signing new agreements with its pilots and flight attendant unions covering operation of the new aircraft.

 Hawaiian currently operates a fleet of 43 aircraft, comprised of 25 wide-body, long-haul aircraft (294-seat Airbus A330-200 aircraft and 264-seat Boeing 767-300ER aircraft), and 18 narrow-body 123- seat Boeing 717-200 aircraft for neighbor island flights.

Hawaiian’s existing orders include an additional 13 new A330s between 2013 and 2015, and six next-generation, longer-range A350XWB-800 aircraft starting in 2017.

The existing fleet of 16 Boeing 767s will phase out over the next 10 years, Hawaiian said.






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rosa wrote:
Why does Hawaiian buy from Airbus rather than Boeing? Are planes built in France better? Is there something wrong with "Made in USA"?
on January 7,2013 | 06:09AM
Morimoto wrote:
It's called capitalism. Everybody buys from everybody else, regardless of where they are. I'd rather buy from someone who gives me a good deal, than buy from someone strictly because they do business in a certain location. In this case buying from Airbus made more economic sense for Hawaiian Airlines. But if you think otherwise you're free to buy a piece of junk from anyone you want.
on January 7,2013 | 08:22AM
allie wrote:
true..capitalism has no national loyalty at all.
on January 7,2013 | 08:42AM
tiki886 wrote:
This comment has been deleted.
on January 7,2013 | 03:23PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
How did u just make Allie bold?
on January 7,2013 | 05:07PM
Mensore wrote:
I've never flown on Hawaiian's A330-200, but have on other airlines. Those planes do not compare to a 777-300, or even a well updated 747-400. In my opinion, single or double isle, the Boeing long-haul aircraft are more comfortable and better designed.
on January 7,2013 | 11:03AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
Maybe you can ask the likes of United and US Airways the same question, they fly Airbus as well as did American at one point. Every airline has different needs and purchase their equipment accordingly. If buying Airbus means that there will be more jobs for local people at Hawaiian Airlines and more visitors coming to our islands and patronize local businesses I suggest this is a good thing.
on January 7,2013 | 08:58AM
pridon wrote:
Airbus probably has better pricing because of illegal subisidies by France Germany and UK.
on January 7,2013 | 11:23AM
hawaiianmickey wrote:
Airbus has more parts built in USA than Boeing does. Just like Toyota cars have more parts built in USA than Detroit's cars. Look deep at where the parts are made and you'll be surprised. Plus Boeing probably did not offer any discounts to Hawaiian. Plus Airbus can deliver the planes faster than Boeing could.
on January 7,2013 | 10:04AM
Wazdat wrote:
single isles planes are TERRIBLE for long haul flights, with one aisle, you are always stuck.
on January 7,2013 | 06:18AM
allie wrote:
agree..horrible plane even for short haul
on January 7,2013 | 08:42AM
serious wrote:
HA has the highest rates from the mainland--but the 767 does have two aisles--but I fly Alaska, first class and pay the same, well, /- as HA.
on January 7,2013 | 10:02AM
Hawaii001 wrote:
Here's a tip to avoid getting stuck on single aisle planes: don't bring too many carry on bags and sit toward the front of the aircraft.
on January 7,2013 | 08:42AM
Surfer_Dude wrote:
Here's another tip........hold your bladder for five hours.
on January 7,2013 | 10:22AM
allie wrote:
yup..just dreadful plane
on January 7,2013 | 11:07AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
In one hand or two?
on January 7,2013 | 11:10AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
None. I use depends.
on January 7,2013 | 05:10PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Takes only 45 minutes max between islands.
on January 7,2013 | 05:09PM
kailuabred wrote:
That's the truth! I would never fly single aisle across the Pacific unless it was dirt cheap. Bad move!
on January 7,2013 | 10:31AM
gypsy wrote:
the detest planes with only one aisle; great for making money for the airlines; negative comfort factor for the passengers
on January 7,2013 | 06:34AM
allie wrote:
yup
on January 7,2013 | 08:42AM
DABLACK wrote:
If the new planes are faster, than I can bear with one with a single aisle. Cutting the airtime to the islands by 1/2 of (5) hours will be just fine !!
on January 7,2013 | 07:02AM
kailuabred wrote:
Thjat aint going to happen, chief. You're stuck with about the same flight time.
on January 7,2013 | 10:33AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Single aisle....yuck. Not only are you stuck but it means 3 x 3 seating.
on January 7,2013 | 07:11AM
allie wrote:
you got it
on January 7,2013 | 08:43AM
nitpikker wrote:
nothing worse than 2x5x2!!
on January 7,2013 | 02:53PM
phoenixguyhere wrote:
Love the 767 configuration. You don't know how many times I have flown with no one next to me
on January 7,2013 | 03:23PM
localguy wrote:
Gotta love a company buying foreign made planes then using our money to give to them. Mark hasn't got a clue about what Aloha stands for. Just another bureaucrat.
on January 7,2013 | 07:18AM
inverse wrote:
You and the rest of the American flying have a choice; complain but continue to fly Hawaiian or boycott Hawaiian and fly another carrier like United/ Continental that uses almost exclusively Boeing (except for their small commuter jets like United Express which uses a Bombardier jet). Obviously Dunkerly sees no downside to going more with Airbus than Boeing as Hawaii and US mainland residents continue to fly with Hawaiian air.
on January 7,2013 | 08:18AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
United placed a big Airbus A350 order last year and they have a little over 150 Airbus A320/319s in their fleet, and those un-American guys at of all places US Airways who fly a fleet with over 250 Airbus A319/320/321/330. Of course we can all agree that by flying these fleets the provide jobs to the thousands of Americans who fly and maintain them and the crews and agents who serve the passengers. I thought the days when people would take sledgehammers to Toyotas at "buy American" events were long over. One more thing, calling the CEO who turned Hawaiian Airlines into a successful, profitable airline that employs thousands of Hawaii residents a "bureaucrat" is perhaps the craziest things ever posted.
on January 7,2013 | 09:13AM
inverse wrote:
I don't disagree with you. I wrote this elsewhere later but it did not post....
To think if the former incompetent, self serving Aloha Airlines execs were NOT focused on just lining their pockets and actually was looking out for the company and its employees; Hawaiian Air would NOT be in just a dominant position it is in today and Aloha air would still be in business. First the Aloha air execs upped their own salaries and then drove Aloha air into the ground by allowing Mesa to examine their books in hopes of partnering with them then have Mesa compete directly against Aloha & Hawaiian. Did not these overpaid execs even think about the history of company raider Orden stein and the possibility that he was using a Trojan horse strategy? Did Aloha air execs make sure they were legally protected in the event of a possible Trojan horse maneuver by Mesa? Aloha air execs where then LATE and not on top of dealing with Mesa in the court system as Hawaiian Air was and as a result, Hawaiian won their court battles against Mesa, even though Mesa really damaged and finanically ruined Aloha and NOT Hawaiian. That is the difference in LEADERSHIP of a company that allows a company to expand like Hawaiian or go bankrupt like Aloha Air. In this perspective you got to give Dunkerly credit for providing the leadership for Hawaiian and therefore would cut the guy some slack in choosing French Airbus planes over Boeing. Anyway, Boeing is not helping their situation as their roll out of their next generation 787 Dreamliner has not been smooth.
on January 7,2013 | 09:20AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Don't disagree = agree
on January 7,2013 | 05:22PM
Morimoto wrote:
And you haven't got a clue as to how to run a business.
on January 7,2013 | 08:24AM
inverse wrote:
PS. I don't see any "local" outrage for the City of Honolulu to hire the financially strapped Italian company Ansaldo and pay them over a BILLION dollars of Hawaii taxpayer monies to build an outdated steel on steel elevated HEAVY rail system that does NOT address the W Oahu to town school commuting crowd; hence will NEVER improve commuter traffic on Oahu.
on January 7,2013 | 08:49AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Boeing vs. Airbus. It's called competition! If Boeing wants more American business, they need to be more competitive price-wise and product-wise with Airbus. In a recent article though, Boeing has more orders than it can handle at the moment so I'm not sure they even NEED more business at this point. In any case, just a few years ago, Airbus was not even a major player in the jetliner industry so they obviously did something right. Besides, how many of US drive cars purely made in America? In fact, did you know that the car with the highest quantity of American made parts is....the Toyota Camry? I'm sure Boeing uses a lot of foreign made parts as does Airbus. It's a global economy.
on January 7,2013 | 10:09AM
pridon wrote:
He's Britisih , right?
on January 7,2013 | 11:24AM
Kapcity wrote:
Actus Lend Lease is not american company...but they got lots of contract for our military housing. They have contracts to develop it and maintained for lots of years. You are taliking about big federal contract giving it to non american company.
on January 7,2013 | 09:26PM
kainalu wrote:
Looks those excessive baggage fees are paying off BIG TIME! ... eh?
on January 7,2013 | 07:51AM
LRC wrote:
I wonder if they'll start flying to/from Hilo and California?? To compete with United.
on January 7,2013 | 08:38AM
allie wrote:
Single aisle? No thank you! Dreadful plane
on January 7,2013 | 08:41AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
It's not a great passenger experience but there is an upside....the use of smaller planes opens up new markets which means more direct flights and less connections. The 190 seat airplanes (Boeing's equivalent is the 757) can be justified on routes that can't fill the 290 seat planes regularly. So the good news is we may have more flights to secondary markets and can skip the stopover in SFO, LAX or Las Vegas. But single aisle planes truly provide a lousy flying experience for long hauls.
on January 7,2013 | 08:55AM
inverse wrote:
A few years ago, some airline that went out of business (ATA?) used to fly the Boeing 757-300 from Honolulu to the mainland which I think was/is the longest 3 x 3 single aisle passenger plane ever built. That was a strange feeling to walk in the front cabin door in this super long single aisle plane and keep on walking for what seem liked forever till you reached the end of the plane. If you sat in the very back of the plane you felt completely disconnected from the front of the plane cause it was so far away. For people who need to frequently stand up and move around on the plane or have to go to the bathroom regulary (eg like this old man I saw who must have had some prostate issue and did not take the medication that Joe Theisman recommends on TV) a single aisle passenger plane is their form of he ll.
on January 7,2013 | 02:34PM
phoenixguyhere wrote:
I flew ATA once before starting to use Hawaiian. I booked my ticket and took a seat in the emergency exit aisle. Unknown to me, the aisle was where you boarded. There was 19 feet between us and the seats in front of us. I sat by the window and another guy was by the aisle. No one in the middle. We chatted and thought this was great and we would have room. At the last minute, a US Submarine guy entered and had the middle seat. He was 6ft 4 and probably 275 lbs. We were tight but I laughed about the experience and wondered how this big guy did on the a sub. He slept most of the way since he was spending his money at the Phoenix Airport bar. When he woke up, we all chatted, the FA and had a great rest of the trip.......LOL...SInce then....Hawaiian Air all the way for me
on January 7,2013 | 02:53PM
bigwiezie wrote:
Hawaiian cant buy from Boeing because they filed Bankrupcy and Boeing was one of the creditors. So, Boeing will not sell to Hawaiian for that reason.
on January 7,2013 | 08:57AM
hawaiianmickey wrote:
So was United and all other carriers who filed for bankruptcy and they sold Boeing planes to them. Hawaiian paid all their creditors back 100% not so the other carriers.
on January 7,2013 | 10:09AM
Surfer_Dude wrote:
Wrong. Hawaiian stiffed Boeing. Hawaiian wouldn't be where they are today if it wasn't for Boeing. I guarantee you, not one Boeing employee flies to the islands from Seattle on a Hawaiian/ Airbus
on January 7,2013 | 10:27AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
You kidding me? Boeing will sell a jet to anyone who has the money. Hawaiian is a different airline now. They have over $300 million in unrestricted cash sitting in the bank. If they came to Boeing and said they wanted to buy some 737-9 Max aircraft would you think Boeing would say no? Of course not, they would have a tender sheet to Hawaiian pronto. More likely Hawaiian is going with the A321 because they are going to be an all Airbus fleet. They will save money on crew training and support by going all Airbus. It just a business decision.
on January 7,2013 | 01:08PM
phoenixguyhere wrote:
I agree. Hawaiian is standarizing with AIrbus just like Southwest has with their 737's. Talk about single aisle seats....wait until SOuthwest announces thye are flying to HNL with their cattle cars. That announcement will be coming soon
on January 7,2013 | 02:57PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
aha !!!!!
on January 7,2013 | 05:13PM
Blue_Powder wrote:
Single aisle plane = less overhead carry-on space = more baggage fees for Hawaiian Airlines.
on January 7,2013 | 09:07AM
Tenatwelve wrote:
So very true..
on January 7,2013 | 10:43AM
inverse wrote:
To think if the former incompetent, self serving Aloha Airlines execs were NOT focused on just lining their pockets and actually was looking out for the company and its employees; Hawaiian Air would NOT be in just a dominant position it is in today and Aloha air would still be in business. First the Aloha air execs upped their own salaries and then drove Aloha air into the ground by allowing Mesa to examine their books in hopes of partnering with them then have Mesa compete directly against Aloha & Hawaiian. Did not these overpaid execs even think about the history of company raider Ordenstein and the possibility that he was using a Trojan horse strategy? Did Aloha air execs make sure they were legally protected in the event of a possible Trojan horse maneuver by Mesa? Aloha air execs where then LATE and not on top of dealing with Mesa in the court system as Hawaiian Air was and as a result, Hawaiian won their court battles against Mesa, even though Mesa really damaged and finanically ruined Aloha and NOT Hawaiian. That is the difference in LEADERSHIP of a company that allows a company to expand like Hawaiian or go bankrupt like Aloha Air. In this perspective you got to give Dunkerly credit for providing the leadership for Hawaiian and therefore would cut the guy some slack in choosing French Airbus planes over Boeing. Anyway, Boeing is not helping their situation as their roll out of their next generation 787 Dreamliner has not been smooth.
on January 7,2013 | 09:19AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
If you look at the big picture, this is all good economically for Hawaii. Every time a plane lands a bunch of people with fat wallets emerge and spend money here. That's good, yeah? Well, more planes means more flights means more wallets and money for us guys. So the effect on the economy is good. It's just that these buggahs stay so uncomfortable to ride in for 5 hours. Consider it your sacrifice for the good of the State.
on January 7,2013 | 09:49AM
allie wrote:
Lingle lined her pocket with their money hon. She served them Not you
on January 7,2013 | 11:08AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Just take coach.
on January 7,2013 | 05:15PM
jankenpo wrote:
Reality check. The big two aisle comfy days on domestic routes will soon be over for Hawaiian. Especially need to get these narrow body aircraft on the other islands to the mainland.
on January 7,2013 | 10:32AM
hawaiianmickey wrote:
1000 new jobs! Do we need to say more!
on January 7,2013 | 10:53AM
Surfer_Dude wrote:
Yeah......ten thousand FRENCH jobs.
on January 7,2013 | 10:56AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
If Southwest does come in they will be flying single aisle 737s with 3x3 seating so we may as well get used to the idea, cause I'l, use SWA all the time that I can!
on January 7,2013 | 11:11AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Aloha would have flown those, if they were still alive.
on January 7,2013 | 05:17PM
808comp wrote:
SW would be a great one to get on. Once you get to the west coast you could conn to almost anywhere.
on January 7,2013 | 05:26PM
lee1957 wrote:
"The acquisition is contingent upon Hawaiian signing new agreements with its pilots and flight attendant unions covering operation of the new aircraft." What's wrong with this picture?
on January 7,2013 | 10:53AM
silvangold wrote:
and this is WHY we need to re-direct our thinking:::::::: comfort, for both my husband and myself is a number one priority.....we mostly travel from HNL to Las Vegas, (along with normal aches and pains that also comes with age) and we fly Hawaiian because he just 'don't fit' comfortably on those big huge planes that Vacations Hawaii uses...... if they begin to use only single aisle (cant get to rest rooms if they're handing out drinks) ... SOME people just have a smaller bladder than others......its NOT the long time to get out of the plane....we will redirect our thoughts.... we were talking, and sort of came to the same conclusion: pay for comfort on United or ANY other plane if we must.....at this point bladder vs points is truly an issue. points are like money, you cant take it with you........loyalty sort of goes out the window at some time!
on January 7,2013 | 11:11AM
Hawaii001 wrote:
I can see the A330 remaining on the Honolulu to Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, Las Vegas, New York routes. For the A321neo, I can see it being used between Honolulu to Oakland, San Jose, Sacramento, Pago Pago, Papeete, and maybe a 3rd flight to Los Angeles and Las Vegas, then Maui to Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas Potential NEW US markets for the A321: Honolulu to Anchorage, Reno, Albuquerque, Salt Lake City, Santa Ana (Disneyland). Potential NEW CANADIAN markets for the A321: Vancouver, BC and Victoria, BC and Calgary, AB.
on January 7,2013 | 11:52AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Mark, we understand.
on January 7,2013 | 05:18PM
Hawaii001 wrote:
Nice try, but my name is not Mark. LOL!
on January 7,2013 | 10:44PM
phoenixguyhere wrote:
I looked at the Airbus website and if you believe what they say, 46% of the component parts for the Airbus are made in the USA
on January 7,2013 | 02:42PM
phoenixguyhere wrote:
HA is flying N/S to NYC now. Freeing up the A 330's from the West coast could allow them to go Chicago, Denver, etc N/S to HNL and Maui. Also they can fly further into the Orient and places like that. I think it is a smart move
on January 7,2013 | 03:05PM
turbolink wrote:
Congratulations Hawaiian! Happy to see the team continue to grow in healthy ways.
on January 7,2013 | 03:06PM
phoenixguyhere wrote:
Someone must have faith in the HA Board and Mgm't. Last year the stock closed at $4 and today it closed at $7 . Wish I had bought more.
on January 7,2013 | 03:21PM
dunderhead wrote:
Some of the comments here are laughable. Complaining about a single aisle airplane? So what do you experts recommend for their smaller markets? You have your choice A321NEO or 737MAX9, take your pick, both single aisle. For those of you who are trying to compare airplane part prices and country of origin with cars, you have no clue.
on January 7,2013 | 04:21PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Lol yeah Hawaiian flew the stretch MD-80 single aisle before, so what is the big deal?
on January 7,2013 | 05:19PM
jamesching wrote:
aloha, the a321neo has a range of about 3750 nmi. i predict that ha will be using these new planes for flights to hnl from winnipeg ca, edmonton ca, calgary ca, vancouver ca, saskatchewan ca, san antonio or austin tx, oklahoma city ok, omaha ne, denver co,
on January 7,2013 | 09:12PM
hikine wrote:
HA's inter-island one aisle planes are more spacious compared to United's one aisle planes bound for the mainland. Hopefully this same configuration carries over to the new planes. HA's service is exceptional and as far as I know they're the only airline that offers free hot meals on long haul flights! Other carriers offer stale sandwiches for sale or hot meal for fee.
on January 7,2013 | 11:54PM
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