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Deedy trial testimony touches on racial issues

By Ken Kobayashi

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LAST UPDATED: 08:02 p.m. HST, Jul 17, 2013


A McDonald’s customer took the witness stand and testified this morning that he recalled hearing the word “haole” during a conversation with Kollin Elderts who was later shot and killed at the Waikiki restaurant early Nov. 5, 2011.

Michel Perrine testified he had been drinking earlier and doesn’t remember what else was said except for that word. But he said he didn’t feel threatened, walked away and didn’t feel a need for any help.

Perrine testified in the trial of State Department special agent Christopher Deedy who is charged with murder for fatally shooting Elderts at the McDonald’s Kuhio Avenue restaurant.

Deedy, 29, of Arlington, Va. was here to provide security at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference.

The prosecution maintains that Deedy was fueled by alcohol and inexperience when he fired the fatal shot. The defense contends Deedy fired in self defense to ward off Elderts who became angry after the agent checked to see if Perrine was alright.

Perrine testified he became afraid when he saw Deedy’s holster and gun when the agent lifted his shirt and recalled seeing Elderts and Deedy grappling with each other, but doesn’t remember hearing any gunshots.

Also taking the witness stand was Deedy’s friend and fellow State Department agent Ben Finkelstein who came to Hawaii Nov. 4, 2011, with Deedy for the APEC conference.

Finkelstein testified he told Deedy that the vast majority of the people here are friendly, but said some “locals” dislike federal agents and mainlanders and Deedy needed to be careful about certain areas of town at night. 

Finkelstein said he also distinguished the word “haole” from “f---- haole,” which he said was highly derogatory racial slur.

According to Finkelstein, Deedy said he would be carryng a firearm.

Deedy later went out with friends to Chinatown and ended up at the McDonald’s early the next morning.







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NanakuliBoss wrote:
It sure looked like Perrine didn't needed rescuing! In fact Perrine handled the situation perfectly. Most of the occupants of McD were drunk or partying at that time of the hour. There might be 50 bars in that area and they need food! Perrine said he did not feel threatened! And walked away. "All Pau", we go eat! Okay, again who was saving Who?
on July 11,2013 | 12:35PM
kiragirl wrote:
Yep! So why did Deedy have to confront Elderts especially since it did not involve him and it was all pau? It was over and he was itching for a fight since he is an agent and carrying a weapon.
on July 11,2013 | 01:13PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Kiragirl, it didnt involve "Perrine" so he left. Nowhere did Nanakuliboss say it didnt involve Deedy and was all pau. Sheesh, this is how misunderstandings happen in the first place.
on July 11,2013 | 01:22PM
kiragirl wrote:
Huh? Is English your second language? Another note: You must also be a double digit hacker.
on July 11,2013 | 01:54PM
Mypualani wrote:
At Kiragirl Maybe gone is really gone and prolly drinking a few beers, but not drunk mind you.
on July 11,2013 | 10:40PM
Mypualani wrote:
@ Gone the defense is saying that Elderts was threatening Perrine , so yeah it pretty much involes Parrine. Parrine stated he didn't feel threatened by Elderts. Maybe the word Ha'ole triggered something in Deedy, because the tape shows Deedy going over to Elderts and starting the fight. Only Deedy got his butt handed to him so he shot Elderts simple as that. Deedy is done no matter how Antoine spins things.
on July 11,2013 | 06:47PM
allie wrote:
true..but that is why McDonald's needs top-notch security. Best for the owner to pay up..it is a cost of doing business late at night.
on July 11,2013 | 01:27PM
Denominator wrote:
McDonald's had a security guard there. Are you suggesting the guard should have opened fire too?
on July 11,2013 | 02:08PM
WEATHER wrote:
Right. Every business open after 11PM has armed top-notch security. Allie must be looking for a job as a McDonald's bouncer.
on July 11,2013 | 02:13PM
kalai wrote:
Allie, don't you work at night?
on July 11,2013 | 03:23PM
false wrote:
Saw that too, Elderts was talking but kept his personal space and was pleasing to look at when he was ordering. Deedy was just throwing the act and look what it got him. `Nough said already. He's done.
on July 11,2013 | 04:31PM
sleepy wrote:
Hey youf/n haole go shoot me then BANG the end.
on July 11,2013 | 12:41PM
Grimbold wrote:
Hey, what's the f/n word supposed to mean. Are you one of the "Like beef or what?" crowd who contaminates this island?
on July 11,2013 | 07:22PM
bodysurf_ah wrote:
Cool it punk
on July 11,2013 | 07:48PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Oh did Perrine hear the word haole, or f---k--g haole? And was Waikiki one of the areas fellow agent told Deedy to stay away from?
on July 11,2013 | 12:41PM
Mypualani wrote:
He does not remember.
on July 12,2013 | 12:28AM
DA_HANDSOME_CHINAMAN wrote:
Ummmm, do you know what the word "haole" means? Check it out guys Haole (/ˈhaʊliː/; Hawaiian [ˈhɔule]), in the Hawaiian language, is generally used to refer to an individual that fits one (or more) of the following: "White person, American, Englishman, Caucasian; American, English; formerly, any foreigner; foreign, introduced, of foreign origin.
on July 11,2013 | 12:44PM
lee1957 wrote:
Don't fool yourself, used in the context with the F word it is pejorative.
on July 11,2013 | 06:39PM
WEATHER wrote:
Actually used without the F word is generally pejorative. Hey, let's invite the haole's over for supper. Not.
on July 11,2013 | 06:46PM
DA_HANDSOME_CHINAMAN wrote:
Everybody use the F word. Even Deedy. You just didn't catch him. It's profanity and (some) people use it before or after every other word. It's just part of people. In Vietnam (1969), I use to say that word every time and decided to change it because it doesn't sound good. So I use the word "sucker" instead, now the whole world is using that word. But it's sad people want to abuse that word ha ha ha
on July 11,2013 | 09:40PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Eh brah, how come haoles only eat filet o fish? Ah, ah, let me grab my fish and go sit down, local brah. Yep, I heard the H word. It's officially racial, yeah right.
on July 11,2013 | 06:50PM
simple wrote:
Friends don't let friends drink & go to McD's
on July 11,2013 | 12:58PM
laachang wrote:
On Tuesday, 7/9/13 SA reported this: "Goodhue testified that Elderts and his friend Shane Medeiros joined her and friends for a night celebrating birthdays in Chinatown the previous Friday night." Today SA reports this: "Deedy later went out with friends to Chinatown and ended up at the McDonald’s early the next morning." Was Deedy in Chinatown too?? SA needs to get their stories correct!! Which is it?? Articles are so poorly written. Always need to read and re-read the articles to make any sense of the jibberish style of reporting. This newspaper is an embarrassment to journalism!!
on July 11,2013 | 01:07PM
User 4 wrote:
This article is a breaking news update on today's testimony and, therefore, does not have a rehash of yesterday's testimony.
Both reports are correct. If you read today's "Video shows fight, shooting": "Deedy and Elderts separately went to bars in Chinatown for First Friday festivities before their encounter at the fast-food restaurant."
on July 11,2013 | 01:24PM
Anonymous wrote:
Why did Mr. Deedy feel he had to carry a firearm for merely going to McDonald's? Displaying his weapon sounds like he was trying to make a statement, as in "Don't mess with me. After all, I am a Federal agent and I have the power to make you do what I want." I agree with KiraGirl. Sounds like he was itching for a fight.
on July 11,2013 | 01:29PM
WEATHER wrote:
Reasons why many people make poor jurors. Hear all kinds of things that were never said and come to conclusions about things based on preconceived biases and prejudices. It's true and it shows. Both showed extremely poor judgment. One was confirmed to have two illegal drugs in body. Evidence and history supports the conclusion that BOTH were HIGHLY DISPOSED (itching as you call it) to a fight. Either could have walked away. Both thought they had the upper hand and elected to not walk away. Both are justified to be called punks. One is dead. Tragic.
on July 11,2013 | 02:11PM
ellemnop wrote:
I agree WEATHER, similar to the Zimmerman/Martin incident. Both had the opportunity to walk away, turn the other cheek, make a different choice. Instead they confronted each other and now someone is dead.
on July 11,2013 | 07:00PM
DA_HANDSOME_CHINAMAN wrote:
Actually, Perrine was satisfied, it's Deedy that wanted to make an issue. Well, he was carrying a weapon and was feeling "brave".
on July 11,2013 | 09:42PM
kolohepalu wrote:
No, Mr. Federal Agent wants hide behind his job, even though he was abusing its privileges. As a "law enforcement officer" it was his responsibility to take the higher road and avoid a conflict- instead, he sought one. This situation was entirely his fault and he should pay.
on July 11,2013 | 07:55PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
So. There are thousands of armed off duty, police,sheriffs,federal officers in Honolulu, thousands mind you, and it takes one John Wayne to roll into town and use his weapon while drunk? And the big APEC show didn't even begin? How's his friend and girlfriend? Part of his drink atoned the world posse?
on July 11,2013 | 06:56PM
kolohepalu wrote:
In both the Deedy and Zimmerman trials, you have the case of a punk taking it upon himself to be a tough guy, picking a fight, losing, and then drawing his weapon. In both cases, the incidences could have been avoided had the perpetrator simply walked away.
on July 11,2013 | 07:52PM
Mythman wrote:
This is notification that I am hereby giving the names of all the posters here to the Boston Strangler for further action!
on July 11,2013 | 01:57PM
Slow wrote:
Be careful, man. The Boston Strangler surfs Velzyland and he knows who you are.
on July 11,2013 | 04:43PM
Mypualani wrote:
LOL Myth you too funny
on July 11,2013 | 10:14PM
Morimoto wrote:
Based on all the news reports it seems like both Deedy and Elderts were drunk and/or under the influence of drugs (Elderts). I'd bet that both could have walked away from the confrontation but their egos got the best of them. Looking at the surveillance tapes, it doesn't give a clear picture as to who initiated the first physical contact. The following is copied from the KITV website: Hawaii laws state deadly force is only allowed when a person believes it is the only way to prevent death, serious injury, kidnapping, rape or sodomy. "If you can safely retreat, you don't have the right to use deadly force," said attorney William Harrison. Based on this and the limited information the media provides the public, I would think Deedy would not be justified in using deadly force. But I also don't think it's murder. If I had to take a guess I'd say he gets convicted of manslaughter.
on July 11,2013 | 01:59PM
Mypualani wrote:
I don't care what Deedy gets as long is Justice is served and this so called special agent is punished in some form or another manslaughter murder who cares, as long as he does not walk away from the damage he has done (Taking someone's life) for what? a word? a perceived threat? I watched the tape and saw Deedy and his friend Gutwolski approach Elderts and Medeiros, Elderts was sitting and waiting, physically where is the threat? until Deedy goes over and threatens Elderts with getting shot ! what trained special agent does that? That Night Deedy was nothing but a Caucasian drunk dickhead punk looking for some action. Well the Haole man found it, yeah I said it. Haole is a proper Hawaiian Word, that is fact how you view that word is very subjective and I really could care less because I am using this Hawaiian word in Hawaii, you got a problem Tough.
on July 12,2013 | 12:05AM
HAJAA1 wrote:
In a nutshell, 1, Deedy should not have been carrying a firearm and drinking, 2, Elderts was drunk and acting up, 3, Deedy should have stayed out of it knowing he had a firearm, 4, no way Deedy started it, 5, local drunk punk goes down. Real typical stuff.
on July 11,2013 | 02:23PM
hon2255 wrote:
Call HPD and have them arrest the drunks, trouble makers ,Deedy however was a federal law enforcement officer able to make a arrest.
on July 11,2013 | 02:43PM
papaya wrote:
What did he need to arrest him for?
on July 11,2013 | 02:46PM
steveoctober wrote:
Only if Elderts had screamed "Jihad!" or some other terrorist suggesting words would then Deedy have some right to investigate further. Else, the issue is out of his jurisdiction entirely.
on July 11,2013 | 03:47PM
Mypualani wrote:
@ hon2255 good question, I didn't know the word haole was illegal? or justified getting shot. Mean the dope up in here!
on July 11,2013 | 10:28PM
Mypualani wrote:
No way Deedy started it?, that is not what the video shows, or the testimony of the supposed VICTIM who the defense say was bullied.
on July 11,2013 | 10:19PM
manoa111 wrote:
What a nightmare case...was ANYONE in that restaurant sober? They are all fairly unreliable witnesses at this point.
on July 11,2013 | 02:43PM
hanalei395 wrote:
How about Ronald McDonald? Maybe he was there.
on July 11,2013 | 03:18PM
residenttaxpayer wrote:
If agent Deedy's left his weapon in the hotel safe instead of carrying off duty while drinking.....this incident would have been just another fistfight and while maybe a little bloody...it's unlikely no one would have died or been critically injured....
on July 11,2013 | 03:04PM
xxNOTxx wrote:
I somewhat agree, although I believe that if Deedy had left his weapon behind I doubt he would have ever confronted Elderts like he did. From what I saw from yesterday's video of the confrontation before the shooting, Deedy can't fight his way out of a paper bag.
on July 11,2013 | 03:53PM
kolohepalu wrote:
Exactly. That's really the point- wouldn't even have been a fight if no gun- Deedy only had the stones cause he knew he was strapped.
on July 11,2013 | 07:57PM
DA_HANDSOME_CHINAMAN wrote:
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
on July 11,2013 | 09:43PM
Kailuaraised wrote:
If Elderts knew how to behave he'd still be alive. Instead he wanted to play tough guy and got shot for it.
on July 12,2013 | 05:46AM
Waimanalodayz1 wrote:
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on July 11,2013 | 03:11PM
Mypualani wrote:
@Waimanalo So true, heaven forbid if the word ha'ole is said.
on July 11,2013 | 07:39PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
"Deedy trial testimony touches on racial issues"

Nice try on the racial controversy guys. I would have gone with "Man Deedy claiming he was defending only felt threatened by Deedy flashing gun.


on July 11,2013 | 03:39PM
gobows wrote:
IF you KICK a sleeping dog and it BITES YOU, you cannot SHOOT'm and claim SELF defense.........
on July 11,2013 | 04:16PM
Kailuaraised wrote:
Actually, the key issue comes to the attack in the video when Deedy is reaching for a gun. If Deedy can prove he identified himself as an agent prior to that altercation, he will walk.
on July 12,2013 | 05:48AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Kailuaraised wrote: "Actually, the key issue comes to the attack in the video when Deedy is reaching for a gun. If Deedy can prove he identified himself as an agent prior to that altercation, he will walk."

So if understand you correctly, you believe that just because someone is (tenuiously) in law enforcement, they can start a drunken brawl, and then if things aren't going their way, yell "I'm a federal agent with the US State Dept, and for some crazy reason, I brought a concealed gun along bar hopping tonight!" and then shoot the other person in the chest?

I know a lot of good law enforcement folks and none of them would ever do that.


on July 12,2013 | 09:04AM
Kailuaraised wrote:
Yes, legally they can. If you fear for your life or serious injury. The first fight was over and Elderts choose to come closer to Deedy and close the distance on him while Deedy was drawing. He is legally allowed to carry the gun anywhere as long as he is not impaired from alcohol.
on July 12,2013 | 09:55AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Kailuaraised wrote: "Yes, legally they can. If you fear for your life or serious injury."

Mr Deedy's gun was CONCEALED behind his back. Unless Mr Elberts had x-ray vision, he had no way of knowing that Mr Deedy was reaching for his concealed weapon.

Don't you think we should all have concealed guns then? What if I want to go out bar hopping, argue and kick a stranger, start a drunken brawl, and when I realize I'm about to get get punched back, pull a gun a kill the other man.

Having a job as a Federal Agent with the State Dept doesn't allow you to act recklessly and irresponsibly off-duty. You don't go out bar hopping, start a fight, kick a stranger, and then shoot them in chest when you realize you are about take a punch.


on July 12,2013 | 10:07AM
Mypualani wrote:
And there you have it folks actual witnesses testifying as to what they saw and heard.
on July 11,2013 | 06:32PM
Grimbold wrote:
It is common knowledge that a lot of locals of mixed blood are unfriendly to European type people. Aloha spirit? Not much here. I have met more friendliness in some other countries.
on July 11,2013 | 07:18PM
bodysurf_ah wrote:
Yup, you get what u give brah.
on July 11,2013 | 07:49PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Kailuaraised wrote: "Yes, legally they can. If you fear for your life or serious injury. "

That has been my experience too.


on July 12,2013 | 10:11AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
bodysurf_ah wrote: "Yup, you get what u give brah."

Sorry bodysurf_ah. I was responding you and accidentally copied the wrong comment into the box. I was just agreeing with you.


on July 12,2013 | 10:28AM
Mypualani wrote:
@ Grimbold it is common knowledge, really and you have what to back this up your personal experience ? Looks like you are posting to start some kind of argument.
on July 11,2013 | 07:59PM
hanabatadayz wrote:
you must be blind or ignorant
on July 11,2013 | 09:07PM
Mypualani wrote:
Really Nailz? Hanabata I not blind nor ignorant but I do see what you are trying to do. trying to press buttons like your buddy Grimballs. But you see I don't know any of you like that, Your dumb special agent on the other had is out there for all the world to see him for what he is "Stupid"
on July 12,2013 | 12:20AM
Kailuaraised wrote:
Everyone will deny it, but it's true. Deedy is the big bad mainlander who shot a local boy who can do no wrong.
on July 12,2013 | 06:11AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Kailuaraised wrote: "Everyone will deny it, but it's true. Deedy is the big bad mainlander who shot a local boy who can do no wrong."

I don't think Mr Deedy is particularly big. I'd say that he's doesn't think so either, because he was apparently too frightened of locals to go out bar hopping in Waikiki without bringing a gun.

I think you are trying to put some sort of racist spin on this, but from the video and testimony that we have seen so far, Mr Deedy went over and confronted a man sitting and eating hamburgers with friends. He escalated the violence by kicking Mr Elberts and threatening to shoot him. When Mr Elberts acted to defend himself (or participate with Mr Deedy in the drunken brawl he was inciting - it doesn't really matter) Mr Deedy drew his concealed weapon and started firing wildly and at close range with two of three bullets going wide and one striking and killing Mr Elberts.

It doesn't matter that Mr Elberts had been drinking too and had pakalolo in his system. You don't get to kick and shoot someone because you'rer in law enforcement.

Mr Deedy was here to provide security as part of APAC. He wasn't supposed to go out drinking and shoot up a McDonalds.


on July 12,2013 | 09:16AM
Kailuaraised wrote:
You cannot prove he was impaired from alcohol. Deedy was also allowed to carry. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with him carrying. He can also confront Elderts. That's not illegal either. The key issue is when Elderts tried to attack him after the first altercation.
on July 12,2013 | 09:57AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Kailuaraised wrote: "You cannot prove he was impaired from alcohol."

There is the sworn testimony of an HPD officer that Mr Deedy had red eyes, smelled of alcohol, and was unsteady on his feet, although Mr Deedy REFUSED to cooperate with a field sobriety test. Even his own defense team admitted in open court that he had been out drinking prior to his deadly assault on Mr Elberts. Also there is extensive evidence in the form of receipts from different bars that Mr Deedy bought A LOT of drinks that night.

Mr Deedy refused to cooperate with the investigation and invoked is 5th Amendment rights against self incrimination and REFUSED to submit to a alcohol and drug screen. Mr Elberts, HAVING BEEN KILLED BY MR DEEDY, had no such rights.


on July 12,2013 | 10:26AM
eyoshida wrote:
Probably the only people in McDonalds who weren't drunk were the workers. So, are they going to be having them as witnesses? There was a security guard there watching the whole thing go down.
on July 11,2013 | 07:37PM
Opelu wrote:
Whatever everyone's perception and definition of Haole there is a difference between Haole and a Haole with A Gun. And let me just say that be it could of been a Popolo, Pake, Kepani etc or any other race but its the GUN that is the difference.
on July 11,2013 | 07:52PM
HD36 wrote:
Oh no the H word!
on July 11,2013 | 07:54PM
Mypualani wrote:
Yes the the forbidden h word, but the trained white guy ain't walking.
on July 11,2013 | 08:00PM
Pikasuoh wrote:
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on July 11,2013 | 08:02PM
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on July 11,2013 | 08:04PM
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on July 11,2013 | 08:04PM
LKK56 wrote:
Deedy shot his gun three times. What trained agent would shoot his gun three times in a McDonald's restaurant over a physical confrontation. Did you see in the video the number of patrons in the McDonald's restaurant. What would have happened if a stray bullet had hit someone? Deedy was an accident waiting to happen. The man just had poor judgment..
on July 11,2013 | 09:20PM
Kailuaraised wrote:
He shot three times because Elderts was attacking him.
on July 12,2013 | 06:29AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Kailuaraised wrote: "He shot three times because Elderts was attacking him."

Well, to be fair, he shot three times because he missed the first two times.

Let's all be grateful that his gun jammed before he could kill anyone else.


on July 12,2013 | 09:19AM
saywhatyouthink wrote:
Well I hope Deedy has some other witness that's willing to back up his story cause the victim he was supposedly trying to save is not helping him. He can't remember? Seems strange to say the least but doesn't look good for Deedy at all. Maybe the Mc Donalds cashiers will come to his rescue, if not it looks like jail time.
on July 11,2013 | 09:28PM
Mypualani wrote:
Well sawhat, the supposed victim that Deedy says he was standing up for did testify that He (Perrine) Had three shots of tequila as well as beer before coming into McDonalds, Maybe that is why he could not remember everything could be a Black out or partial black out at best. depending on how much was consume and amount of time for alcohol to burn out of a person's system could be plausible why he cannot say word for word what happened, he does not even remember hearing the shots, but in the tape I saw him go behind the counter. Lets see what the cashiers say at least they don't look drunk or high, or both.
on July 12,2013 | 12:13AM
DA_HANDSOME_CHINAMAN wrote:
Think about it. After Deedy finished work, why carry the weapon, was he going to expect trouble? If Deedy had entered McDonalds without his weapon, would Deedy open his mouth to Elderts at all? Of course not, but with the weapon, he was confident with himself. What do you think? Honestly. Put yourself in "that" shoe, then think about it. He did say he would be the one to shoot him (Elderts), didn't he (earlier). The agent was acting like a big shot. Perrine said he was more scared when he saw the weapon, right. Need to put "two and two" together. Without the weapon, he is nothing. Elderts surprised the "s _ _ t" out of Deedy, that Deedy had to draw his weapon. Tell me, if you were very close (near) to Deedy and had the chance to take away the weapon, wouldn't you? I would. Elderts had to put the threat down, unfortunately, he couldn't stop Deedy from squeezing the trigger.
on July 11,2013 | 09:33PM
RandyC73 wrote:
EXACTLY!
on July 11,2013 | 11:25PM
Kailuaraised wrote:
You would take a weapon from a federal agent? Sounds like a good plan, just look at the last guy who tried it...Also, Deedy was well within his rights to carry.
on July 12,2013 | 06:15AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Kailuaraised wrote: "You would take a weapon from a federal agent? Sounds like a good plan, just look at the last guy who tried it...Also, Deedy was well within his rights to carry."

1) Yes, the law allows Mr Deedy to carry a concealed weapon, even if chooses to show deplorably poor judgement and take it with him bar hopping and have it with him while he starts a drunken brawl. Likewise, it is perfectly legal if I choose to drive my car around for a night of bar hopping. There's no law against that either. BUT I can't run over and kill a pedestrian (on my third try!)... even if he's jaywalking, invoke my 5th amendment rights and refuse a breathalizer, claim that I "only had a few beers but wasn't drunk" and expect everyone to forget the whole thing.

2) No one would have had the opportunity to take Mr Deedy's gun if he had left it where it was, concealed under his shirt and in a holster. Instead he drew it and started waving it around like Yosemite Sam. Taking it away from him as quickly as possible seems like a prudent course of action, and, in fact, that was the VERY FIRST TIME HPD DID when they arrived on the scene.


on July 12,2013 | 09:37AM
51butterflies wrote:
I truly pray justice will be served and not clouded. Deedy was not bright to drink alcohol, carry a fire arm,get iinvolved in a situation that had nothing to do with him and then continue to make poor decisions that then caused the death of another person. What did Deedy solve? His actions/involvements escalated into so much destruction, brokenness, chaos and sadness for many. Deedy, will have to answer to God's laws to seek forgiveness for all his actions,no matter what his sentence from humanity is. This case, the Zimmerman case and all of these gun related tragedies only prove the case for gun control throughout our nation.
on July 11,2013 | 11:44PM
Mypualani wrote:
Praying too.
on July 12,2013 | 12:34AM
Mypualani wrote:
Finkelstein testified he told Deedy that the vast majority of the people here are friendly, but said some “locals” dislike federal agents and mainlanders and Deedy needed to be careful about certain areas of town at night. Finkelstein said he also distinguished the word “haole” from “f---- haole,” which he said was highly derogatory racial slur. Finkstain meant well but ...
on July 12,2013 | 12:28AM
Mypualani wrote:
I would like to see what the security has to say.
on July 12,2013 | 12:32AM
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