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Souki: Governor not ready to call special session on gay marriage

By Star-Advertiser staff

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LAST UPDATED: 02:41 a.m. HST, Aug 29, 2013



State House Speaker Joseph Souki said Wednesday that Gov. Neil Abercrombie informed him that he was not ready to call a special session on gay marriage.

Souki would not say whether the House had the votes for a gay marriage bill after House Democrats met in private caucus to discuss a special session. The governor had been waiting for a House vote count before making his decision on a special session. The state Senate has the votes for a gay marriage bill.

Instead, Souki shifted the discussion back to the governor.

"We had a very interesting session," Souki told reporters. "And I had to report to them (House Democrats) that the governor at this point is not ready to call a special session. And so we will have continual discussion on the merits of the draft that's being presented by the governor and by the concerns that (were) presented by the caucus over here."

Louise Kim McCoy, Abercrombie's spokeswoman, confirmed that the governor had spoken with Souki but would only say that discussions about a special session are ongoing.

House Majority Leader Scott Saiki said lawmakers discussed the scope of a religious exemption in a draft gay marriage bill.






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AhiPoke wrote:
I'm agianst having a special session because of what I think is the unnecessary cost when the regular session is less than five months away. I also object to the likelihood that a bill will be ramroded through with votes already decided. That means that any hearing on the topic is total BS as the decision is already made. That would make a mockery of the process. I'm not against gay marriage. I'm against the cost and the railroading of legislation.
on August 28,2013 | 02:27PM
WooWoo wrote:
A quick process does not allow for maximization of campaign donations. Better to draw it out and leave enough time for fundraising appeals.
on August 28,2013 | 03:31PM
Kahu Matu wrote:
Railroading is how all of their politics are accomplished. They know they have votes, and have made promises or payments to get those votes, before it even comes up. The hearings are a farce for the media to get everyone impassioned. Sadly, the politicians will railroad this through and force it down the throats and lives of us who live and work here.
on August 28,2013 | 03:32PM
false wrote:
What difference does it make your money being spent of the rail. What's a few extra bucks?
on August 28,2013 | 03:40PM
Bdpapa wrote:
I totally agree with you.
on August 28,2013 | 03:46PM
localguy wrote:
AhiPoke - I'm shocked you are against the way our bureaucrats work, high cost and the railroading of legislation. No concern for saving tax payer's dollars, no concern for common sense. This is what they do.
on August 28,2013 | 05:03PM
allie wrote:
agree with ahi//.no need to rush this bill as it will change Hawaii forever. Consider it in January.
on August 28,2013 | 03:13PM
false wrote:
Eh, I though you left?
on August 28,2013 | 03:41PM
Bdpapa wrote:
No such luck!
on August 28,2013 | 03:46PM
false wrote:
Abs is flip flopping on the issue , can't make up his mind.
on August 28,2013 | 03:39PM
atilter wrote:
until he has fulfilled/guaranteed his quota of un-spoken financial commitment ???!
on August 28,2013 | 04:59PM
soundofreason wrote:
Pay to gay.....I mean play.
on August 28,2013 | 06:24PM
seaborn wrote:
If your civil rights were being affected, wouldn't you want swift legislation?
on August 28,2013 | 03:40PM
Kahu Matu wrote:
Get off of the civil rights train. It makes a mockery of the issue, especially on the 50th anniversary of Rev. King's speech. He'd flip in his grave at even the mention of one's sexual actions being a civil right. Don't disrespect true civil rights advances with the poor character and morals portrayed by many today.
on August 28,2013 | 03:53PM
MakaniKai wrote:
Well said Kahu Matu!
on August 28,2013 | 04:39PM
8082062424 wrote:
i do not think it that simple .The governor has to come up with a bill that can withstand any legal challenge that will come. and no doubt there will be those who will challenge the bill. Then there is civil unions what to become of that will the state do away with civil unions i doubt it will be easy to do. since the bill was written for straight couples as well as gay couples.And when Hawaii does have same sex marriage what happen to those who are in civil unions now. In one state gay couples were told get married in 30 days or loose your benefits . nothing easy or simple about any of this
on August 28,2013 | 04:19PM
atilter wrote:
nor SHOULD THERE BE anything simple in achieving this "questionable" goal!!!!
on August 28,2013 | 05:02PM
8082062424 wrote:
i agree
on August 28,2013 | 06:33PM
Nala007 wrote:
You might want to read the bill. It answers all of your questions. Just go to the Governor's web site and you'll see it posted there in a press release.
on August 28,2013 | 05:29PM
8082062424 wrote:
i did and people will changeling it. let the legal battle begin
on August 28,2013 | 06:24PM
kds wrote:
Wait until next session. Complete a well-written bill that is not rushed and propose this in January 2014. The votes will be there and the public will be assured of a fair, even-handed process. A special session will only cost extra taxpayer dollars and will result in a poorly written bill and public backlash that the whole process was rushed and railroaded through. Come on Legislature and Governor, take the time to do this right the first time.
on August 28,2013 | 03:48PM
Nala007 wrote:
The bill is already written. It wasn't rushed. Remember, it was previously introduced in Jan 2013. The new bill is just an update of the previous one.
on August 28,2013 | 05:30PM
atilter wrote:
..."how [confusing] thou art..."! a "...religious exemption..."? what does that mean exactly? does that mean that an expression of a religiously-based comment will have no bearing on either side of the issue???
on August 28,2013 | 04:55PM
blackmurano wrote:
In 1998 the citizens of this State voted 70 percent overwhelmingly for an amendment to the State constitution to give the power for the State legislature to banned Homosexual marriage in Hawaii. The Democratice party which control this State, "hook line and sinker", has reneged and use their power to grant "perversion of God's creation in Hawaii. 14 years ago, if everyone would have known how far "left" the Democrats have gone, maybe the wording to that amentment should have read, "banned homosexual marriage, period, in Hawaii." God of the Bible ordained marriage as a "Covenant" for one man and one woman. But men have "surpressed God's truth" and gone ahead with what they call Equality in Marriage, it is just another name for homosexual marriage.
on August 28,2013 | 05:02PM
BRock wrote:
and you say it like its a bad thing.
on August 28,2013 | 09:42PM
OldEnoughToRemember wrote:
That was 15 years ago. Would you accept an Environmental Impact Statement from 15 years ago? A fast food coupon? Marriage equality will have no impact on your marriage nor mine. Who are you to judge anyone? Society has changed a lot in 15 years. Your God may not be my God, or your neighbors God. What part of "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." do you not understand?
on August 29,2013 | 09:20AM
Skyler wrote:
Good choice by the Governor.
on August 28,2013 | 08:00PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Ready in the year 2051 for the same genders.
on August 28,2013 | 08:35PM
Pacej001 wrote:
Let's just call him Nervous Neil because calling a special session would put his precious political posterior in the spotlight on an issue that might cost him more than a few votes in the upcoming primary, a primary in which a ripe papaya has an even chance of beating him. No, wouldn't be prudent to have a "special session". Better to have an uspecial session in which the legislative elite can just ram gay marriage through with perfunctory hearings so as to diffuse whatever political heat that derives. So, to sum up, politics as usual in Hawaii: Weasel-word the proposition we voted on back in 1998 so as to do the opposite of the voters will after allowing time for a lop-sided PR campaign to shift a few votes.
on August 28,2013 | 11:52PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Why have a title of Majority Leader?
on August 29,2013 | 12:57AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
The fact that we are even having this discussion hurts Neil's image.
on August 29,2013 | 12:58AM
nitpikker wrote:
instead of same-sex, abercrummie should be looking into the Board of Water giving themselves bonuses while raising water bills at the same time. something smells.....besides the sewers....and abercrummie!!
on August 29,2013 | 01:22AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
This is a complex issue and deserves well thought arguments and answers. Do the due diligence before bringing it up.
on August 29,2013 | 08:05AM
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