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Abercrombie signs same-sex marriage bill into law

By Star-Advertiser staff

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LAST UPDATED: 05:36 p.m. HST, Nov 13, 2013


Gov. Neil Abercrombie today signed the marriage equality bill into law this morning, describing the law as part of Hawaii's "legacy of aloha."

At a signing ceremony at the Hawai'i Convention Center's Liliu Theater, the governor told dozens of invited guests and state lawmakers that the marriage equality bill was the "epitome of the First Amendment in action."

Hawaii is the 15th state plus the District of Columbia to allow gay marriage. Illinois is expected to become the 16th state later this month when Gov. Pat Quinn signs a marriage equality bill into law in Chicago.

Gay couples can get married in Hawaii as soon as Dec. 2. Clergy can refuse to perform gay weddings. Churches and other religious organizations can deny goods, services and facilities for gay weddings and receptions if it violates religious beliefs.

Abercrombie said the bill may not be a "perfect vehicle" but it was the product of the deliberative process. He said the debate recognized both equality and religious freedom.

Before Abercrombie signed the bill, an emotional state Sen. Clayton Hee (D, Heeia-Laie-Waialua), the chairman of the Senate Judiciary and Labor Committee who steered the bill through the special session of the Legislature, told the crowd, "I could have never imagined playing a role in such a profound yet, in my mind, such a simple thing to do: Bring justice and equality to all of us."

State Rep. Chris Lee (D, Kailua-Waimanalo) mentioned criticism about the timing of the special session, and said, "It is never the wrong time to do the right thing."

Abercrombie had called the special session that began Oct. 28 to address the same-sex marriage issue after the U.S. Supreme Court in June struck down parts of the Defense of Marriage Act and allowed married same-sex couples to receive federal benefits. Abercrombie said a same-sex marriage law would need to be in effect by Dec. 31 for married gay couples to be able to take full advantage of tax benefits now offered by the federal government as a result of that decision.

On Tuesday, the Senate voted, 19-4, to accept the House's version of the bill, which expanded a religious exemption so churches and other religious organizations would have broader discretion to refuse to host gay weddings and receptions. The House passed the bill 30-19 late Friday night after hearing more than 55 hours of public testimony and holding two all-day hearings.

Abercrombie signed the bill into law today with a koa pen that he plans to give to retired state Supreme Court Justice Steven Levinson, who wrote the 1993 court ruling that held that denying marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples was a violation of equal protection under the state Constitution.

Levinson's opinion on behalf of a splintered Hawaii Supreme Court cleared the way for the possibility that Hawaii could become the first state in the country to legalize same-sex marriages, a radical idea at the time. It produced a backlash nationally, with Congress in 1996 passing the Defense of Marriage Act that prohibited federal benefits from going to same-sex married couples.

In Hawaii, the state Legislature adopted a measure in 1994 reserving marriage between a man and a woman; voters then passed an amendment in 1998 that states, "The Legislature shall have the power to reserve marriage to opposite-sex couples."

Now, the struggle over marriage equality shifts to Hawaii's courts. State Rep. Bob McDermott, a Republican who opposes gay marriage, will seek a temporary restraining order  to block the state from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples, citing the 1998 constitutional amendment.

McDermott (R, Ewa Beach-Iroquois Point) and other same-sex marriage opponents contend that the constitutional amendment outweighs any bill passed by the Legislature. Another public vote, they argue, would be necessary to redefine marriage.

Judge Karl Sakamoto has scheduled a hearing for Thursday in Circuit Court.




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manoamuppet wrote:
Congratulations to all of the soon to be married couples.
on November 13,2013 | 09:14AM
96706 wrote:
...then they'll be divorced and their adopted kids confused ....
on November 13,2013 | 10:13AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
96706 - Just like your traditional 50% divorce/single mother/single father marriages or out of wedlock births.
on November 13,2013 | 10:45AM
Pocho wrote:
Now we get more divorces in the State of Hawaii. "sigh"
on November 13,2013 | 11:01AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
But you get more marriages too "yeah"
on November 13,2013 | 11:46AM
Pocho wrote:
It's the divorces that hurt the kids most. Oh but wait... .
on November 13,2013 | 01:38PM
Kahu Matu wrote:
Divorce and confusion of what is now known as "sexual identity" will hurt and confuse kids most. Sorry state for our keiki to grow in.
on November 13,2013 | 04:03PM
96706 wrote:
yep ... so true!
on November 13,2013 | 12:23PM
surless wrote:
Don't underestimate the intelligence of kids. Even ten year olds know what love means, even if they don't know what sex means. They can handle it. They can handle knowing that sometimes men love men and women love women. In many cases, high schoolers are way AHEAD of the older generation in acceptance and love regarding civil rights issues. Stop looking for excuses to deny gay couples equal rights. The kids will be fine. They will learn, little by little, day by day, as kids always do. They will learn that we live in a diverse world. They are going to find out, sooner or later, that there are GLBT people in ths world, And that such people need to be loved and need to have their civil rights respected.
on November 13,2013 | 08:35PM
aomohoa wrote:
And just how many heterosexuals do you know that are divorced?? We all do. Do you think those kids are less confused on why their lives are torn apart. Loving parents are loving parents. It has nothing to do with what sex they are. Get a life!
on November 13,2013 | 01:48PM
serious wrote:
Surprised the photo doesn't show them sucking face.
on November 13,2013 | 12:23PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
serious - I am surprised that you can use a computer.
on November 13,2013 | 01:31PM
sooregonian wrote:
Manly mugshots coming to a formerly family friendly beach and park near you.
on November 13,2013 | 03:54PM
CriticalReader wrote:
Somehow became the Willie K/Amy Hanaialii reunion show, so, it was vastly diminished.
on November 13,2013 | 09:16AM
Skyler wrote:
Karma's a real beech, Mr. Abercrombie.
on November 13,2013 | 09:21AM
HanabataDays wrote:
Kaimana's a real beach, Mr. Sky Low Low.
on November 13,2013 | 09:23AM
inverse wrote:
Did not read your comment before posting. However was thinking the exact same thing.
on November 13,2013 | 02:39PM
AlohaKakou wrote:
Agree, Skyler. Rep. Lee, Sen. Hee, Gov. Abercrombie: the ends never justify the means. If this was indeed the right thing, it should have been done in the right way.
on November 13,2013 | 11:46AM
inverse wrote:
Kaimana is a real beach in Waikiki, Skyler
on November 13,2013 | 02:38PM
LanaUlulani wrote:
I am pro gay marriage. This should be a happy time but Abercrombie used tyranny to do it. He made something so BEAUTIFUL into something so UGLY.

Abercrombie will use tyranny against Hawaiians too... which saddens me.


on November 13,2013 | 09:22AM
Poidogs wrote:
LOL, tyranny. Get real, no one died, no one was oppressed, and there certainly wasn't any one hurt other than thousands of egos.
on November 13,2013 | 10:14AM
LanaUlulani wrote:

Tyranny:

1. arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority. Synonyms: despotism, absolutism, dictatorship.

2. the government or rule of a tyrant or absolute ruler.

3. a state ruled by a tyrant or absolute ruler.

4. oppressive or unjustly severe government on the part of any ruler.

5. undue severity or harshness.

Abercrombie using tyranny to get what he wants is problematic to Hawaiians. WE are next. Therefore GET A GRIP.


on November 13,2013 | 11:33AM
sooregonian wrote:
@LanaUlulani -- You have described the DC Dems and Obama who are destroying the individual health Ins.market. The Palace pols of Hi.will wipe out the family visitor market with this bromance bill.
on November 13,2013 | 04:12PM
justchecking wrote:
LanaUlulani thanks for taking the time to help Poidogs.
on November 13,2013 | 06:26PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
LanaUlulani - No. No. No. The proper phrase is "I am pro gay marriage, but ..." Then you go on to explain how you are not pro gay marriage. Get it together.
on November 13,2013 | 10:42AM
Pocho wrote:
He's wants another term. Sits on both side of the fence.
on November 13,2013 | 10:53AM
pcman wrote:
Final score: Perverts, hypocrits and sodomists - 3; Homophobes, bigots and polygamists - 0
on November 13,2013 | 11:04AM
AlohaKakou wrote:
Couldn't agree more LanaUlulani! The ends don't justify the means, tyranny is never good.
on November 13,2013 | 11:48AM
Kaleo744 wrote:
Unfortunately there will be a lot of confuse voters this election, It is what it is, history has been made and it left unfortunately a bad remembrance not because of the outcome of this issue, but for the the arrogance the government had shown to the people is what for me I dont agree. But we shall see how this will effect the life style of the people of Hawaii.
on November 13,2013 | 09:27AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Kaleo744 - There are a lot of confused voters every election, so just like SSM proponents have predicted there won't be many changes.
on November 13,2013 | 10:46AM
2NDC wrote:
Time to clean up the legislature next November.
on November 13,2013 | 09:53AM
FrankieT wrote:
Nope your wrong, nothing will change, get use to it.......again
on November 13,2013 | 10:03AM
96706 wrote:
... people of Hawaii DON'T vote. These losers will be back for the 2nd round ......CANCELLING CHRISTMAS.
on November 13,2013 | 10:14AM
HanabataDays wrote:
Yeah, we'll make you celebrate Beelzebub's Birthday instead.
on November 13,2013 | 10:18AM
Pocho wrote:
That may change
on November 13,2013 | 10:54AM
LanaUlulani wrote:

Exactly. While I am pro gay marriage it's time for local people to register to vote and fire all who ignored you. JUST DO IT.

on November 13,2013 | 11:34AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
LanaUlulani - No. No. No. The proper phrase is "I am pro gay marriage, but ..." Then you go on to explain how you are not pro gay marriage. Get it together.
on November 13,2013 | 11:54AM
HCSSC wrote:
It's about time!
on November 13,2013 | 09:54AM
HLOEWEN wrote:
This comment has been deleted.
on November 13,2013 | 09:56AM
HanabataDays wrote:
Wherever your "zone of legal protection" may be, it won't be in Hawai`i Nei. Maybe in Nigeria, though.
on November 13,2013 | 10:19AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
HLOEWEN - Stock up that bunker. Long's frequently has big sales on rice and spam. You'll need at least one gallon of potable water per person per day. You can probably find some boogeyman repellant online.
on November 13,2013 | 10:49AM
sooregonian wrote:
@HLOEWEN -- I concur. The first zone of defense for traditional families MUST be home-schooling. We have an unstoppable movement near 3% of the U.S. population and growing. Legal (with requirements) in all 50 states. The LGBT folks are estimated at about 3% also, but punch above their weight. So, we will place a firewall between evildoers (adults) and our precious keiki as we weather this destructive "climate" change.
on November 13,2013 | 10:50AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
sooregonian - home-fooling
on November 13,2013 | 10:52AM
sooregonian wrote:
M4 -- No, you fool. We school.
on November 13,2013 | 09:28PM
Fred01 wrote:
Good. Keeping your kids stupid. Darwinism in action.
on November 13,2013 | 11:15AM
sooregonian wrote:
Fred01 -- It appears your Hawaii public schools -- by any metric -- are dumbing down the kids.
on November 13,2013 | 09:33PM
aomohoa wrote:
Oh yes, let's shelter our children from the world! LOL. How long do you think that will last.??A whole 3% huh? LOL Children need socialization. Teach them about the world don't hide them from it.
on November 13,2013 | 01:54PM
sooregonian wrote:
@aomohoa-- The real bubble is Hawaii, that's why so many kids leave after H.S. Some home-schoolers are reclusive. Most are like my wife (can't say spouse anymore) and I and have "come out." Most home school kids socialize with kids of all ages during the week and meet-up with neighbor kids-- who are mentally and physically enslaved -- afternoons and weekends. We have compassion for them because most home-schoolers keiki attended a public school at one point (my oldest did.) Gay marriage IS the fad.
on November 13,2013 | 04:44PM
Fred01 wrote:
HLOEWN, move to China or Russia if you need a nanny state to regulate your morality.
on November 13,2013 | 11:14AM
localguy wrote:
HLOEWEN - guardian of morality? Oh puhleeze. You are upset because the world is not kow towing you your narrow, twisted view of the world. Times and people change, Either you join the change or you are left behind. Looks like we will all be seeing you in our rear view mirror. Goodbye.
on November 13,2013 | 06:42PM
First-Responder wrote:
Phoey
on November 13,2013 | 10:00AM
BRHuffman wrote:
I think we are the 16th state, after Illinois.The article says 15th but I believe that is mistaken.
on November 13,2013 | 10:01AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
The Governor signed it before Illinois' Governor is scheduled to sign theirs and marriages can start here sooner than in Illinois. That is why Hawaii is 15 and Illinois is 16.
on November 13,2013 | 10:15AM
RichardCory wrote:
AMERICA. F**K YEAH.
on November 13,2013 | 10:07AM
Dimbulb wrote:
It's too bad that the Governor and the Legislature decided to circumvent the will of the voters. In 1998 the voters wanted marriage to be between a man and a woman. That is the way they voted. In the past few years the pro homosexual community said that surveys now said the people wanted same sex marriage. If that is the case, the subject should have been voted again by the citizens of the state. Then, regardless of what side of the isle you're on, the people would have had their say. This is not to say that the Governor and the Legislature would have followed the vote of the people or even if the courts would have recognized the vote, but everyone would have a say. Unfortunately, now the Governor and the Legislature have become enemies of the state in the eyes of those opposed to same sex marriage.
on November 13,2013 | 10:19AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Dimbulb (it fits) - "the will of the voters" -- In Hawaii, 54% say they support same-sex marriage, while 31% oppose it. That means 15% are undecided (I assume). If we distribute the Undecideds in a proportional manner to those who have an opinion, then 63% would support same-sex marriage, while 37% oppose it. Suppose all of the Undecideds just flip a coin (which seems to be how they decide things), then 61% would support same-sex marriage, while 39% oppose it. Even if we give the benefit of the doubt to our homophobic mob, and alot all Undecideds to oppose, then 54% would support same-sex marriage, while 46% oppose it. 54% > 50% >50% =>The public still supports SSM.
on November 13,2013 | 10:51AM
sooregonian wrote:
Dimbulb -- succint and spot-on.
on November 13,2013 | 10:55PM
OahuRes22 wrote:
Haters are free to catch the next flight out of Hawaii
on November 13,2013 | 10:25AM
aomohoa wrote:
Maybe they will leave when Allie does. LOL
on November 13,2013 | 01:55PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
aomohoa - A plane load of haters in North Dakota. They won't even notice the difference.
on November 13,2013 | 04:26PM
MariaBetty wrote:
This issue is not over. Admittedly by its proponents, amendments are going to follow. Should have went with a task force to study the issues and consequences. Now its gonna be a legal pandora box and the stigma will never go away.
on November 13,2013 | 10:27AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
MariaBetty - What amendments. Seemed like 1,000 amendments were tried and few were accepted.
on November 13,2013 | 10:44AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
Makapuu4, typically you have to fine tune these bills down the line. A lof of these "amendments" just add clarifying language or address and unanticipated issue. For the most part the basic elements of the law stays in place. No big deal and I think if people who think that major or substantive amendments are forthcoming will be very disappointed.
on November 13,2013 | 10:59AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
HawaiiCheeseBall - I agree there may be some tweaks. MariaBetty seems to think big changes are in store.
on November 13,2013 | 11:57AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
Wishful thinking on her part I would say. I suspect that a year from now a lot of will say "what was the big deal", the sky did not fall, people who wanted to marry will get married, and people will practice their faith just as they can today. Time heals yes?
on November 13,2013 | 12:36PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
HawaiiCheeseBall - They will find something other imagined end-of-the-world something to whine about.
on November 13,2013 | 12:59PM
bobstr wrote:
Now Lanikai Beach and the rest of the resorts are going to be known for "Gay Weddings on the Beach"!! Bet that will really kill of the tourism!! The "Gay old Islands", Mecca for every pervert that wants to get married in style.
on November 13,2013 | 10:29AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
No they will just be known as great places for all people to get married. Brah your "pervert" reference say all that needs to be said about you.
on November 13,2013 | 11:01AM
aomohoa wrote:
Good post. You have the Aloha spirit that I everyone should have:)
on November 13,2013 | 01:58PM
Fred01 wrote:
How in the world is that going to kill tourism? You are so stupid....
on November 13,2013 | 11:16AM
sooregonian wrote:
@bobstr -- Finally, another voice of reason...we'll become another Bangcock or Vegas when gambling "equality" is made legal.
on November 13,2013 | 04:21PM
sooregonian wrote:
Gambling "equality" within a decade...a reputation as a gay mecca AND homeless haven will decimate the much larger family visitor market on Oahu.The LGBT market is lucrative but niche that will bubble-peak within 3 years or so as the novelty of a Hawaiian marriage wears off. Remember 14 other states -- and counting -- offer gay marriage. We won't be able to tax our way out of impending doom; hence, gambling revenue will be the islands bailout. Don't have to look too far to see successful models.
on November 13,2013 | 10:32AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
sooregonian - "impending doom" Maybe HLOEWEN will let you join him in his bunker.
on November 13,2013 | 11:58AM
sooregonian wrote:
Makapuu4-- Since you are a numbers guy, get back to us with a dollar figure on ALL funded AND unfunded liabilities that are publicly available -- including pensions. How much do we owe per person or per capital? Gambling revenue is a winning bet. Gay tourism is like all orgasms...they just don't last long enough.
on November 13,2013 | 04:54PM
RichardCory wrote:
Things might get a little too erotic for HLOEWEN to handle.
on November 13,2013 | 05:12PM
sooregonian wrote:
M4 -- Tell him to send me a dic pic...for my wife. Prefer that then another manly mugshot courtesy of the slobbering SA. You will hunker down in Hades; alone and tormented for your evil deeds on this forum.
on November 13,2013 | 10:24PM
inverse wrote:
If that was true why does San Francisco remain one of the most popular visitor destinations in the world?
on November 13,2013 | 02:46PM
sooregonian wrote:
Inverse -- S.F. is adult-themed like Vegas and has ten's of millions of their ideal client within a day's drive; skipping stop-and-frisk pervs @ TSA. Also,families' come for the weekend for world class attractions and are willing to overlook the detritus. I've never been able to stomach the place for more than 48 hours. We don't have the Silicon Valley engine...too dependent on tourism. Seems nonsensical to alienate a large segment of the market. Was there an occupy movement for equality? Guess the fix was in politically as other posters have opined. P.S. The bay area did have a dot-com earthquake in 2000 so no city is immune economically. What do you think happens as it plays out? I mean, the amount of investor money being poured into hotels and shopping must be leading to something (gambling?) huge...
on November 13,2013 | 10:46PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Great.
on November 13,2013 | 10:41AM
ClearHeaded wrote:
sooregonian - "impending doom". Haha. You wish. We would much prefer loving couples (gay or straight) visiting our islands. Small-minded, hateful people go somewhere else. Aloha.
on November 13,2013 | 10:43AM
8082062424 wrote:
that a joke and im sure you no it. this state need every tourist dollar it can get. and to loose any one group would hurt it
on November 13,2013 | 11:21AM
Carang_da_buggahz wrote:
You need to catch a one-way ticket back to the Bay Area. "We" aren't going anywhere. We were doing alright until you transplants started cramming your agendas down our throats (no pun intended). Aloha!
on November 13,2013 | 11:51AM
ClearHeaded wrote:
I've lived her all my life, bigot. I'm straight, with no agenda. I'm just not threatened by people loving each other. And I don't try to force other people to change who they are, just to make myself happy. Aloha!
on November 13,2013 | 12:03PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
ClearHeaded said "small-minded, hateful people go somewhere else. Aloha." Carang_da_buggahz's response was "We" aren't going anywhere." Ergo, has agreed that he is one of the "small-minded, hateful people ..."
on November 13,2013 | 01:36PM
Tahitigirl55 wrote:
I remember when I was growing up and across of the Ala Moana Hotel there was a gay bar called Hulas. Some of my friend and I thought that it was just an bar so we walked in and to our surprise there were guys kissing guys and girls also. I walked out and it was so sick. Now how do you explain to your children/grandchildren when you are at the beach and two guys are kissing and then girls also. I can't stomach that not in public. They should have let the people vote and what ever happens, happens. This is our state also and we do have rights just as the gay people do. Now look what has happened. What a shame and sick state this will be.
on November 13,2013 | 11:00AM
Fred01 wrote:
Maybe you should move away. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO NOT BE OFFENDED, DINGBAT!
on November 13,2013 | 11:17AM
LanaUlulani wrote:

Actually Tahitigirl55 has a right to religious freedom and the right to freely express herself without government intervention. Get a grip.

on November 13,2013 | 11:37AM
kiragirl wrote:
What's with this name-calling?
on November 13,2013 | 11:45AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Tahitigirl55 - Time to head on back to Tahiti. Rumor has it that there are no LGBT people there.
on November 13,2013 | 11:50AM
swagger wrote:
I know what you mean so gross
on November 13,2013 | 05:39PM
ejkorvette wrote:
A curse placed upon this abomination...and all those involved that voted and that are of this perverse nature.
on November 13,2013 | 11:05AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
kiragirl: what's with THIS name calling?
on November 13,2013 | 12:16PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Keeping score? Who's winning?
on November 13,2013 | 08:16PM
ramsey wrote:
SA printed the list of who voted for and against the bill. Cut it out. Tack it to your kitchen wall. Express your feeling at election time. Not just talk.
on November 13,2013 | 11:08AM
Fred01 wrote:
Yes. Those hateful fools voting against should all be removed from office.
on November 13,2013 | 11:18AM
Carang_da_buggahz wrote:
That's right, Fred. Liberals just love free speech...until you disagree with them. Since when does mere disagreement equate to hate? Only since the "Gay Agenda". Prance on, Sodomites. Your day of reckoning is fast approaching.
on November 13,2013 | 11:41AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Carang_da_buggahz - You are free to say any stupid thing you want. And, I have confidence that you will.
on November 13,2013 | 11:52AM
DRH wrote:
Sodomites? Do you know what bugger means?
on November 13,2013 | 12:00PM
Squiggs wrote:
Sodomites is a type of religious rash.
on November 13,2013 | 12:34PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Squiggs - I thought it was tiny little sodos.
on November 13,2013 | 01:00PM
squidman22 wrote:
Remember everyone. Regardless of this outcome, you can still choose and believe to live traditional marriage.
on November 13,2013 | 11:27AM
LanaUlulani wrote:
I say what I want say. I write what I want to write. GET A GRIP.
on November 13,2013 | 11:31AM
Carang_da_buggahz wrote:
My financial advisor has suggested I buy shares in Pfizer, the manufacturer of Preparation H. I can't imagine why, but okay, here's my money if you say so....
on November 13,2013 | 11:34AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Carang_da_buggahz - Is it because he considers your to be a pain in the asz?
on November 13,2013 | 12:00PM
Anonymous wrote:
Is that including you OahuExRes22?
on November 13,2013 | 11:48AM
AlohaKakou wrote:
Rep. Lee, Sen. Hee, Gov. Abercrombie: the ends never justify the means. If this was indeed the right thing, it should have been done in the right way.
on November 13,2013 | 11:50AM
Makapuu4 wrote:
AlohaKakou - It was done in the right way. Just because you didn't like the result doesn't change this.
on November 13,2013 | 12:05PM
sooregonian wrote:
AlohaKakou -- The Dems template was Obamacare...this law too will implode. Too divisive for the Aloha state.
on November 13,2013 | 09:40PM
pursuit2000 wrote:
AWESOME!! $13 billion in debt, 193,653 on Food Stamps, 25,900 unemployed, Debt to GDP Ratio 18.41%.... THANKFULLY The Legislature of Hawaii has worked especially hard to take care of the problems plaguing their citizens...
on November 13,2013 | 12:13PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
pursuit2000 - Next step. Work on this plague of homophobes.
on November 13,2013 | 01:01PM
concerned1 wrote:
That's right, no one cares about our financial crisis, the more important thing is"love is love" marry whomever you love. I hope they bring forth a truthful account on the price we taxpayers paid for this special session that could not wait. What a sad day in Hawaii nei
on November 13,2013 | 03:17PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Well, they approved Koa Ridge. Cheer up.
on November 13,2013 | 04:30PM
sooregonian wrote:
Concerned -- Our dear leaders do act as if they can print money or benefit from "Quantitative Easing."
on November 13,2013 | 10:09PM
sooregonian wrote:
pursuit2000 -- The gov and his henchmen erroneously believe they can fleece the well-heeled (couldn't resist) LGBT gang in perpetuity. Didn't give much study to the effect sky high room rates and an encroaching gay clientele would do to the family visitor market.
on November 13,2013 | 10:16PM
Anonymous wrote:
Contrary to what my Christian Brothers and Sisters believe, the sun did rise this morning. Hooray for Equal Rights.
on November 13,2013 | 12:38PM
concerned1 wrote:
Although very gloomy
on November 13,2013 | 03:07PM
Skyler wrote:
"Legacy of aloha"? Hardly.
on November 13,2013 | 01:06PM
Skyler wrote:
You have got to be kidding me. "Legacy of Aloha" was sent for approval? B S.
on November 13,2013 | 01:10PM
melane3 wrote:
It is a good day in Hawai'i.
on November 13,2013 | 01:41PM
aomohoa wrote:
You are really ignorant, in case you don't know it. Down deep inside you must.
on November 13,2013 | 01:57PM
wave1 wrote:
Who are we to judge. And rights should not be subject to the majority, otherwise slavery might still exist. No go forth and multiply, or whatever. Let's move on to more important world issues. Aloha
on November 13,2013 | 02:18PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Either Neil got taller or Avery's chin got lower.
on November 13,2013 | 02:38PM
concerned1 wrote:
Now i understand why abercromb left his high office in Washington to run for Govern, to bring forth his left wing agenda
on November 13,2013 | 03:05PM
sooregonian wrote:
@concerened --astute observation! Next up on his docket is "Transgender Equality." AKA Co-ed bathrooms and locker rooms. See Cali Assembly Bill 1266 for the shocking and sicko details if you dare.
on November 13,2013 | 04:29PM
Haoulie wrote:
Its Homosexuals, men having sex with men, perfectly normal for the government of Hawaii and Abercrombie who probably have skeltons in the closet. In 1998 the Hawaiian people defined marriage like the bible does one man and one woman. Leave it to Abercromie for a rushed special session. Congratulations homos!
on November 13,2013 | 04:23PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
Haoulie - Geez. What a crybaby. Get used to it. Too bad homophobe.
on November 13,2013 | 04:36PM
islandsun wrote:
Now lets get these new arrivals some crackerbox housing. Koa Ridge comes to mind....
on November 13,2013 | 04:35PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
islandsun - Wouldn't you rather move yourself from under the freeway to a nice new refrigerator crate.
on November 13,2013 | 04:57PM
sooregonian wrote:
Islandsun -- There is a flotilla of filth from the mainland drifting our way and they will be on parade with the homeless, so no need of FEMA trailers,etc.
on November 13,2013 | 10:02PM
rbzs1 wrote:
now ALL U GAY COUPLES get married and go to Philippines for your HONEYMOON..... HELP THE ECONOMY.............
on November 13,2013 | 04:47PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
rbzs1 - Or instead of rbzs1 being a major league aszhole, he could contribute his paper route money towards the relief effort.
on November 13,2013 | 04:56PM
danji wrote:
Was there any cost n having the bill at the convention cf there was then neil isan idot cause even if he signed the bill in his office the bill would become law anyway. I HOPE MEDERMOTT'S SUIT GOES THROUGH AND INTRRUPTS THIS NEW LAW. i AM FOR EQUAL RIGHTS BUT THIS GETTING IN CONFLICT WITH "MARRIAGE IS INSANE. ALSO OUR SENATORS JUST SHOWED THAT THEY ARE FOR SEGREGATION ALSO BY SEPARATING THE "FOR AND AGAINST" AT THE STATE CAPITOL. IS SEGREGATION A DISCRIMMILATORY ACT?? BUT THE AGAIN IN HAWAII OUR POLITICANS ARE SELF APPOINTED LEADERS AND NOT SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE AS SHOULD BE. ALSO IF THIS MARRIAGE ISSUE IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO THEN WHY HAVEN'T CONGRESS PASSED A LAW FOR IT
on November 13,2013 | 05:29PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
danji - Whoa. You must have leaned on the caps key during your tirade. Now, if there was only an intelligent post key, you'd be in business.
on November 13,2013 | 06:25PM
DA_HANDSOME_CHINAMAN wrote:
Regardless, I am not voting for Abercrombie. He just wants to acquire a retirement from the State of Hawaii too. He just isn't cutting the "mustard" as a Governor. Now, other than. I would like several "gay" people to tell me "why?", they want to be married out of the old tradition method "male and female". I'm serious, I just can't understand this. Maybe I'm just thinking sexually. I can see men living together as friends, but not as sexually partners. I can't see myself having sex with another male. Was it because of his family up bringing, or maybe brought up by more females and no other male in the family? What I can see is a male that was in the wrong body and had a sex change. But to males with the same organs, I can't imagine. I have been told that sexually, they just don't want children and then there are no problems with kids when there is a "divorce". I know there are couples of men or women that want children. I just hope the kids will understand this in the future.
on November 13,2013 | 05:48PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
DA_HANDSOME_CHINAMAN - "I just can't understand this." My guess is that this is just one of the many, many things you can't understand.
on November 13,2013 | 06:26PM
jotobuddy123 wrote:
I know the star advertiser is pro gay marriage. I know the three local news stations are pro gay marriage. I subscribe to the star advertiser in print and on line. I am employed and am a taxpayer. I'm tired of all this coverage surrounding gay marriage. Gays get to marry in the State of Hawaii. I get it. Please news media in Hawaii, spend more time covering the life and death situation in the Philipines. A lot of us have family and freind there. Congradulations on gay marriage in Hawaii. Can we please focus on this horrific tradgedy that has affected more people on our islands than gay marriage?????!!!!
on November 13,2013 | 06:11PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
jotobuddy123 - "I'm tired of all this coverage surrounding gay marriage." Yet, you found the time and energy to once more comment. I guess you can never to too tired to be a bigot.
on November 13,2013 | 06:28PM
jotobuddy123 wrote:
Thank you Makapuu4. However, you may want to spell check or take a typing class before submitting a comment. My point was that there is much more important news coverage than gay marriage. People are dying in the Philippines because of the typhoon. People are losing health insurance coverage because of the Affordable Healthcare Act. Everyone knew once the special session of the Hawaii Legislature was called, that gay marriage would become law. It was no surprise. The time and energy that you mentioned I put in my comment was to try to put this issue in perspective. Our media has put this issue on the front burner for weeks. The outcome was pre-determined. The Gov called the special session because he had the votes to pass it. People are dying in the Philippines and aid is slow to come. People are losing their healthcare need that to survie or they may die. When was the last time a gay couple who could not marriy died??? Lets focus on life and death issues - especially now. Congratulations to all the gay people who get to marry in Hawaii.
on November 13,2013 | 06:58PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
jotobuddy123 - No can do. I am too tired to spell check or take a typing class before submitting a comment. You really have no point. If you don't like the topic, move on.
on November 13,2013 | 07:17PM
ponowai wrote:
Shame on most of you leaving comments, lots of low blows from both sides. People against the law, get a grip, it won't affect you. People for the law, get a grip too, dealing with haters is nothing new don't bring yourself down to their level. Special session was a waste of money, this issue still isn't over. I don't care which way will be final, it wont affect me. I do think the new law will eventually stand and when it does I hope it generates out of state money to help our economy.
on November 13,2013 | 06:12PM
jotobuddy123 wrote:
Is Marriage only aout money for the State to help economy of same? Is that why marriage equality law?
on November 13,2013 | 06:27PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
jotobuddy123 is apparently still not tired.
on November 13,2013 | 06:47PM
jotobuddy123 wrote:
Still here brah..
on November 13,2013 | 07:10PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
jotobuddy123 - Still not quite sure how subscribing to the star advertiser in print and on line and being employed and a taxpayer are connected. If you don't like the SA coverage, you can always unsubscribe. SSM is important to LGBT people and apparently to the religious right. All of the other topics you mention are important too. Google anyone of them and you will get millions of results. I am pretty sure that what SA covers will not have much impact on what is happening in the Philippines (it won't speed up the assistance which is a logistics porblem), or on the ACA (you are a little over-dramatic here. Don't like the SA. Don't read the SA.
on November 13,2013 | 07:25PM
Makapuu4 wrote:
sooregonian - Don't worry. No one wants to see your junk. You can barely see it yourself.
on November 13,2013 | 06:29PM
inverse wrote:
How about the S A make their online pictures a little clearer. In the first picture is the woman in red standing without a lei Tokuda and in the second picture, who is that other woman in red sitting to the right of the governor while reading something on her smartphone? She must be important for her to sit in front
on November 13,2013 | 08:28PM
ResponsibleCitizen wrote:
The perversion of Hawaii continues........
on November 13,2013 | 11:41PM
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