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Same-sex couples marry on historic first day in Hawaii

By Michael Tsai

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LAST UPDATED: 12:55 p.m. HST, Dec 02, 2013


They had waited so long, kept their faith through so many pitched political battles, that even up to the moment he and his husband-to-be took their place next to the five other history-making couples, Shaun Campbell still wasn't sure it was really going to happen.

"I always felt that it would happen when it happened but I didn't know whether we were at that moment in history just yet," said Campbell, who married partner Tony Singh in a ceremony at the Sheraton Waikiki held just after the so-called Hawaii Marriage Equality Act took effect Monday at midnight.

Campbell and Singh joined same-sex couples Keola Akana and Ethan Wung, Gary Bradley and Paul Perry, Donna Gedge and Monica Montgomery, Saralyn and Isajah Morales, and Richard Rosehill and Shawna Okami in the historic trip down the aisle.

More photos: Six same-sex couples marry on historic first day in Hawaii

The event was coordinated by representatives from Citizens for Equal Rights, GLBT Caucus of the Democratic Party of Hawaii, Honolulu Pride, Integrity Hawaii, PFLAG Oahu, Pride Alliance Hawaii, Pride@Work Hawaii in conjunction with the Sheraton Waikiki.

Campbell, the founder of a nonprofit biocultural conservation organization, met Singh on a blind date on Waikiki Beach more than five years ago.

"He has the biggest heart of anyone I know," Campbell said of his new husband. "We take care of each other through all of the ups and downs. We've shared so many challenges and successes that I knew we could spend the rest of our lives together."

Singh, who has applied for immigration asylum to avoid persecution in his home country, said he and Campbell share the same love of community and commitment to charity.

"We have similar values," Singh said. "We do whatever we can to look out not just for our friends but for anyone who needs help."

The early-morning ceremony was delayed about 40 minutes by computer glitches as the six couples applied for their marriage licenses online as soon as they were available at midnight. Still, the delay did nothing to damper the mood of the hundreds of friends and family on hand to see the couples marry.

The first loud cheer came at midnight, when same-sex couples married in other states were officially recognized under Hawaii law.

"The state did the right thing," said Tambry Young of Citizens for Equal Rights. "It took courage for those legislators who voted in favor of the bill. It was an important step in standing up for the right thing."

Young married Suzanne King in Salem, Mass., in 2009. The irony that she couldn't do the same at the Waikiki Beach of her home state nipped at Young until midnight on Monday.

After an opening oli by Hinaleimoana Wong-Kalu and a ballad-like rendition of "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)" by Starr Kalahiki, the six couples strode down the aisle and were met by their own officiants.

"Give them a round of applause," announced organizer Michael Golojuch as the couples completed their vows and turned toward the audience. "This is history!"

Afterward, an exhausted but elated Golojuch reflected on the greater meaning of the event.

"This is not just a new day in Hawaii," he said. "This is a new era of acceptance, love and justice for everyone who calls Hawaii home."

About 36 other couples also attended the event so they wouldn't have to wait until the state Department of Health office opened to apply for their own marriage licenses.

Renea Stewart and Lisa Veneri of Hawaii Kai joined the line around 12:30 a.m. They plan to be married later today.







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marktakai wrote:
Congratulations!!
on December 2,2013 | 01:28AM
cartwright wrote:
Actually very appropriate to have this happening on Aids Awareness Day. The sole positive thing Abercrombie did in this matter.
on December 2,2013 | 05:47AM
Kahu Matu wrote:
Just goes to show that money, enough political maneuvering, and flawed reasoning can make anything "legal". Sad day for Hawaii nei.
on December 2,2013 | 05:50PM
HLOEWEN wrote:
This comment has been deleted.
on December 2,2013 | 02:18AM
serious wrote:
Yes, did you notice even the heavens cried yesterday!!!
on December 2,2013 | 04:19AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
We needed the rain. It's a good thing.
on December 2,2013 | 04:59AM
ehrhornp wrote:
Hawaiian blessing lol
on December 2,2013 | 05:56AM
kainalu wrote:
Touché!
on December 2,2013 | 06:36AM
eoe wrote:
Wake me up when it starts raining frogs.
on December 2,2013 | 05:58AM
aomohoa wrote:
Silly comment. We needed the rain.
on December 2,2013 | 08:06AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
more like a hysterical overload of tears.
on December 2,2013 | 12:05PM
sooregonian wrote:
HLOEWEN -- Another December day of infamy for the isles. However, our adversaries did not slay; they have awakened the sleeping giant that is traditional ohana.
on December 2,2013 | 07:18AM
aomohoa wrote:
There is no reason why traditional Ohana and gay Ohana can't live in harmony if everyone keeps an open heart filled with Aloha.
on December 2,2013 | 08:09AM
lynnh wrote:
If they keep shoving this @#$% in our face every five minutes, there will be no harmony. It's bad enough that they went against the will of that majority, but to continually flaunt it is going to get people very angry and people my even get hurt.
on December 2,2013 | 08:23AM
eoe wrote:
Just reporting what happened. Shoving it down your throat would be tongue action on the front page.
on December 2,2013 | 08:57AM
LadyNinja wrote:
Please calm down, everyone has a right to be happy, if you don't like the news, don't read it, don't watch it and heaven forbid, talk about it. Relax, life is good!
on December 2,2013 | 09:38AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
If everyone has right to "be happy" you just took away the majority of the people's happiness with the immoral integration of our beliefs and ethical values.
on December 2,2013 | 12:07PM
allie wrote:
This comment has been deleted.
on December 2,2013 | 12:13PM
localguy wrote:
Might want to review your numbers, way, way off. As usual.
on December 2,2013 | 03:43PM
localguy wrote:
lynnh - The will of the majority is not what you think it is. Every year the USA approval rate for SSM is increasing as the old school people pass on and the newer generation moves it. The tide is unstoppable.
on December 2,2013 | 03:42PM
pakeheat wrote:
You expect this world to last forever? Not the way it is going
on December 2,2013 | 08:26PM
allie wrote:
This comment has been deleted.
on December 2,2013 | 12:12PM
localguy wrote:
Naaahhh. Our sun was born about 4.5 billion years ago. Our sun is about 1/3 of the way through its expected life, soooooo Earth is good for about 8-9 billion years. We will all be dust in the wind.
on December 2,2013 | 03:45PM
Grimbold wrote:
Moral or not, equality means front and rear and upper body orifices are declared to be equal now.
on December 2,2013 | 07:54PM
localguy wrote:
Did someone mention allie??? hehehe
on December 2,2013 | 03:46PM
Anonymous wrote:
Why does anyone ever mention that name at all? 2nd biggest troll in these forums.
on December 2,2013 | 04:44PM
HanabataDays wrote:
Tend to your own MI knitting, since the appeals court there has agreed to hear a challenge to the constitutionality of your state's same-gender marriage ban! And the MI law will most likely be found unconstitutional (that's the trend these days, amirite?) You'll be up to your toches in same-gender marriages in your own state of MI and it'll happen while you're commenting on an article in a HI paper.
on December 2,2013 | 07:25AM
aomohoa wrote:
Only a sad day for close minded people with no Aloha
on December 2,2013 | 08:07AM
Mana07 wrote:
When you speak of Aloha I take it that you are referring to the Aloha shown to conservative christians whom value marriage (not going to say "traditional" here)?
on December 2,2013 | 10:42AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Conservative Christians don't own the word OR the institution of marriage.
on December 2,2013 | 02:03PM
localguy wrote:
Not at all. A great day for the Nei to join the rest of the advancing world.
on December 2,2013 | 03:40PM
Grimbold wrote:
Historically cultures like ancient Greece and Rome collapsed after homosexuality was generally accepted. Bad foreboding for the modern western culture..
on December 2,2013 | 07:50PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Baloney.
on December 2,2013 | 08:04PM
bobstr wrote:
Now Hawaii is going to be the new "gay" mecca, gay weddings on the beach, wedding specials at the resorts, I really wonder if anyone realizes how this is going to impact tourism from Asian countries that typically have much higher standard of morals.
on December 2,2013 | 02:38AM
cartwright wrote:
Especially when the HTA blows tax dollars to promote this image of Hawaii as a homosexual destination. We'll lose a huge spectrum of real family tourists.
on December 2,2013 | 05:43AM
ehrhornp wrote:
Just like the 14 states that beat us in allowing gay marriage. lol Say do you know what those states are? Family tourists are going to be restricted more and more.
on December 2,2013 | 06:01AM
aomohoa wrote:
If we want families here we should stop worrying about Gays and start doing something about the drug addict homeless people all over Waikiki.
on December 2,2013 | 08:11AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Actually, it you would be correct except for "stop worrying about the Gays". No, we should still worry about the gays.
on December 2,2013 | 12:18PM
Anonymous wrote:
Go ahead Chicken Little. Worry your silly little heart out. No matter.
on December 2,2013 | 04:46PM
ehrhornp wrote:
lol, have to laugh at such imaginary threats. Someone else here has said on multiple occasions that gay marriages will be just 2%. If so, I don't think it will even be noticeable. As for Asians I think it is silly to think that there are no Asian gays.
on December 2,2013 | 05:59AM
knowsy12 wrote:
Thai transgenders could really fool a lot of haters here. Oh, maybe they already have.
on December 2,2013 | 09:28AM
Grimbold wrote:
Yep, I was fooled once, but I didn't like it after I discovered the truth.
on December 2,2013 | 07:59PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
ehrhornp, you are misinterpreting what he is saying. He was not saying there are no Asian gays, his point was their moral and ethical values are much higher than ours in the sense that homosexuality is not acceptable and is an abomination of values.
on December 2,2013 | 12:20PM
Grimbold wrote:
Gay-ism will increase a lot , now that young confused people are taught that it is normal.
on December 2,2013 | 07:57PM
pcman wrote:
IRT bob on gay mecca. Mark my words. Hawaii will become a haven for AIDS/HIV in the years to come, if it is true that SSM will increase tourism to Hawaii. Additionally, AIDS/HIV-supporting groups will lobby to give disability compensation to victims, including young and able bodied men who self induce their infection by SSM spouses. We are sliding down a slippery slope to more unintended health problems and costs.
on December 2,2013 | 06:00AM
HanabataDays wrote:
The bulk of HIV transmission these days is between heterosexuals, did you fail to pay attention?
on December 2,2013 | 07:26AM
8082062424 wrote:
you the one better pay attention.Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) of all races and ethnicities remain the population most profoundly affected by HIV.
on December 2,2013 | 07:49AM
lynnh wrote:
Where did you hear that? You're the one without a clue!
on December 2,2013 | 08:26AM
inverse wrote:
Probably in Sunday school.
on December 2,2013 | 12:20PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
So are we talking percentages and ratios in relation to population of straight to gay, or are we talking straight percentages based on population. For example, if you were to take a random group of 1000 straights and random group of 1000 gays, the percentage of HIV infected % would be much higher in the GAY column as opposed to the Straight column. So, what are you referring to?
on December 2,2013 | 12:27PM
sooregonian wrote:
pcman -- Right you are. This "equality" law plants the devil seed (couldn't resist) to legalize gambling on a large scale. The revenue will be needed to cover the costs you outlined. Also, the state will need the money eventually after it becomes clear that traditional families have fled elsewhere...a reputation as an adult-oriented pacific playground AND homeless haven will assuredly alienate said tourists.
on December 2,2013 | 07:48AM
aomohoa wrote:
As soon as you commented "devil seed" I realized your comment would be ridiculous and stopped reading it. lol
on December 2,2013 | 08:13AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
And although you didnt finish reading the thoughts, you decided to comment. How invalid does that make your most recent post.
on December 2,2013 | 12:29PM
Anonymous wrote:
Not near as much as most of yours.
on December 2,2013 | 04:47PM
sooregonian wrote:
bobstr -- I and many others concur...this bromance bill will decimate family tourism within just a few years. Secular resorts will cater to this lucrative but small niche and crater a much larger market segment of families. It is a short-term decision to maintain their inflated historical room rates and occupancies.
on December 2,2013 | 07:24AM
TigerEye wrote:
Too bad no one will remember you when the sky does not fall--whether or not your words were marked.
on December 2,2013 | 09:41AM
ellinaskyrt wrote:
Um, okay. Your post ignores certain facts about Asia. Obviously you've never heard of Bian Er Chai in China or shudo in Japan--all which describe beliefs & practices that go back centuries. That Westerners have long been attracted to the Orient because of its sexual exoticism belies your claim the entire continent (entire continent!!) has "higher standard of morals." The bottom line is love between two consenting adults should not be discriminated against. It wasn't long ago that two people of different ethnicities being in love was immoral; back further in history, it was unlawful for two people of different social classes to marry as well.
on December 2,2013 | 08:33AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
apple and oranges.
on December 2,2013 | 12:31PM
peanutgallery wrote:
It used to be "by the people, for the people. Now it's by the progressives, for anyone who will give their vote. In this case, homosexuals. Incredible!
on December 2,2013 | 02:40AM
eoe wrote:
Sounds like you need to move to Wyoming.
on December 2,2013 | 05:59AM
sooregonian wrote:
Move to Oregon -- the trail is gun friendly (concealed carry) and no gay marriages. I should disclose that Portland's former mayor, Sam Adams had a scandalous gay affair with a barely 18 year old male (many claim the victim was 17). He was fortunate to have finished his first term in office. It may be awhile -- even in blue Oregon before another openly gay male is elected to statewide office.
on December 2,2013 | 07:58AM
ehrhornp wrote:
Do I detect a sore loser? Well, you can always move to Russia. lol
on December 2,2013 | 06:02AM
eoe wrote:
Classic. You chose Russia. I chose Wyoming. Sadly, those two places have more in common with each other than they do with Hawaii. Both contain crusty, bigoted, rightwing regimes whose self-confident image is propped up by petrodollars.
on December 2,2013 | 06:18AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
eoe, you just spoke the word "bigot". Do you know what a bigot is? A bigot is a person that cannot step outside of their own thoughts and accept other ideas. With this in mind, and being a GAY, would that not also harbor bigotry by not accepting the ways of a STRAIGHT person? We are all bigots in the ideals and beliefs that we live our lives. So to be called a bigot means nothing. I admit I am a bigot, a bigot in the name of the Lord.
on December 2,2013 | 12:35PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
We finally agree on something...
on December 2,2013 | 02:06PM
Anonymous wrote:
Bigots, homophobes, and racists never recognize their own behavior as bigoted, homophobic, or racist. Good you know yourself so well.
on December 2,2013 | 04:48PM
CloudForest wrote:
But yet, Betty, Barbara, Bernice, Beth and Bumpkins all love each other soooooo much --- why can't they all marry and make one huge happy family!!?? It is not fair! We muct now make polygamy legal as well ---- or we are all 'haters' .............. and on a more current note: The 'bridesmaids' from both Sodom and Gomorrah were unable to attend any of the six weddings .....
on December 2,2013 | 03:39AM
eoe wrote:
I've noticed that those who's voice is shrillest on certain topics (rac ists, gay marriage bigots) often have repressed issues they are compensating for (jungle fever, latent gay tendencies).
on December 2,2013 | 06:03AM
pakeheat wrote:
keep up the good work of name-calling as always from you're group, no-class.
on December 2,2013 | 06:59AM
eoe wrote:
Not calling names, "just sayin'." Also if you want to see who calls names, read this thread. Abombinations, devil, sickening, suggesting people marry their sister or have 10 wives is the same, etc.
on December 2,2013 | 07:13AM
DowntownGreen wrote:
But then he'd have to admit there is a double standard at play.
on December 2,2013 | 02:06PM
pakeheat wrote:
Abomb? try that again
on December 2,2013 | 08:24PM
Anonymous wrote:
Pot, I'd like to introduce you to kettle.
on December 2,2013 | 04:49PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
Congratulations to the happy couples.
on December 2,2013 | 04:02AM
ehrhornp wrote:
Yes congratulations and best wishes. May they have everlasting happiness.
on December 2,2013 | 06:03AM
pakeheat wrote:
Yes, on earth but after that?
on December 2,2013 | 08:19PM
Squiggs wrote:
May they live in Pakeheats head for the rest of his adorable life.
on December 3,2013 | 02:15AM
islandsun wrote:
When is the gov going to tie the knot?
on December 2,2013 | 08:03AM
ellinaskyrt wrote:
Did you not notice that our current governor is Abercromie. Lingle has been out of office for several years.
on December 2,2013 | 08:35AM
islandsun wrote:
I wasn't referring to Lingle.
on December 2,2013 | 01:41PM
inHilo wrote:
Congratulations, and may your world be a peaceful one.
on December 2,2013 | 04:29AM
sooregonian wrote:
inHilo -- Gays have no peace (or shame) as they are truly tortured souls. That political parchment is merely a patch on an open wound; a placebo meant to keep the palace pols coffers full.
on December 2,2013 | 08:04AM
kiragirl wrote:
I know I am only one household but I will not watch the station that did not use discretion in the wedding coverage. Oh, except for football games. KITV is on my favorite channel and KHON got deleted. Sorry Joe Moore.
on December 2,2013 | 05:25AM
ehrhornp wrote:
What discretion should they have used? I didn't see any coverage about it.
on December 2,2013 | 06:06AM
kiragirl wrote:
If you must ask, then you are insensitive to people who morally thinks having sex with the same gender is wrong.
on December 2,2013 | 06:25AM
eoe wrote:
I know I am only one household but I will not watch any station that has programs that mention god or show church services. It is morally offensive.. Oh, except for football games. KITV is on my favorite channel and KHON got deleted. Sorry Joe Moore.
on December 2,2013 | 06:29AM
8082062424 wrote:
since the faith based programs are run on a Christian own station it will not be hard for you to find
on December 2,2013 | 12:21PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
I doubt KHON showed that!
on December 2,2013 | 06:31AM
kiragirl wrote:
Then watch it!
on December 2,2013 | 06:41AM
BRock wrote:
People don't "thinks," they "think.".
on December 2,2013 | 08:51AM
kiragirl wrote:
Who thinks or is it who think?
on December 2,2013 | 10:05AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Is that the best come-back you can come up with, "a spelling error" I'd worry about some ethical and moral errors we are making by allowing this.
on December 2,2013 | 12:43PM
kapoleitalkstory wrote:
Today we all are more free!
on December 2,2013 | 05:46AM
ehrhornp wrote:
Yes we are. Isn't freedom great?
on December 2,2013 | 06:06AM
pakeheat wrote:
freedom till you're life is over and eternity where?
on December 2,2013 | 07:00AM
aomohoa wrote:
Maybe you should just worry about where you are going. LOL
on December 2,2013 | 08:18AM
7yearTribulation wrote:
Lake Of Fire
on December 2,2013 | 08:31AM
Squiggs wrote:
I already said, in pakeheats head.
on December 3,2013 | 02:18AM
lynnh wrote:
You have to be kidding! Wake up.
on December 2,2013 | 08:31AM
pcman wrote:
Mark my words. Hawaii will become a haven for AIDS/HIV in the years to come, if it is true that SSM will increase tourism to Hawaii. Additionally, AIDS/HIV-supporting groups will lobby to give disability compensation to victims, including young and able bodied men who self induce their infection by SSM spouses. We are sliding down a slippery slope to more unintended health problems and costs.
on December 2,2013 | 05:58AM
Slow wrote:
If you post it 3 or 4 more times you just may convince yourself that your nonsense is the truth. MAYBE POST AGAIN BUT IN CAPS! IF YOU YELL REALLY LOUDLY EVERYONE WILL THINK YOU ARE SMART.
on December 2,2013 | 06:11AM
ejkorvette wrote:
What a disgusting, sickening, event. This is an Abomination. Hawaii has once again Sold its Soul to the Devil. GLBT, Same Sex marriage smells Rotten and Putrid....
on December 2,2013 | 06:08AM
eoe wrote:
I am sorry that you are so twisted with hate.
on December 2,2013 | 06:23AM
pakeheat wrote:
No, it's YOU!
on December 2,2013 | 07:00AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
It is not hate, it is the disgust that grows in my stomach.
on December 2,2013 | 12:47PM
kainalu wrote:
Be afraid, ejkorvette - be VERY afraid! SSM is HERE! Your sky is falling! For most of us though, the sky is right where it's suppose to be.
on December 2,2013 | 06:35AM
pakeheat wrote:
I hope you are still alive to eat you're words, LOL
on December 2,2013 | 07:01AM
kainalu wrote:
Be afraid, pakeheat - be VERY afraid! Heaven is full of gays! Buwahahahahaha!
on December 2,2013 | 07:12AM
pakeheat wrote:
I guess you have been there? NOT!!!!!
on December 2,2013 | 08:18PM
Squiggs wrote:
Yes, it is true, I have been there!
on December 3,2013 | 02:20AM
Squiggs wrote:
And may your phony goods bless you, pakeheat.
on December 3,2013 | 02:20AM
neighborhoodmole wrote:
According to the Bible, eating pork and shellfish is an abomination! If you don't rant about that too, you are a cherry-picking hypocrite.
on December 2,2013 | 07:07AM
kainalu wrote:
Bacon-wrapped shrimp is sounding pretty good right about now.
on December 2,2013 | 07:22AM
aomohoa wrote:
OMG, that sounds good.
on December 2,2013 | 08:20AM
ellinaskyrt wrote:
*LIKE*
on December 2,2013 | 08:36AM
aomohoa wrote:
That is what these bible quoting people do. They pic and choice what fits at the time. lol
on December 2,2013 | 08:19AM
ellinaskyrt wrote:
*LIKE*
on December 2,2013 | 08:36AM
Keolu wrote:
It was rescinded by God in Acts 10. Nothing wrong with eating pork or shellfish.
on December 2,2013 | 02:17PM
Anonymous wrote:
Ohhhhh... by FAX or email?
on December 2,2013 | 04:50PM
sooregonian wrote:
ejkorvette -- The moral majority feel as you do. Their aberrant bedroom behavior is analogous to a rabid animal. Gays are unhinged from reality as they actually believe the mainstream will now accept the unacceptable.
on December 2,2013 | 08:18AM
Heinbear wrote:
I am amazed at the prejudge and intolerance of the people commenting here.
on December 2,2013 | 06:34AM
DMelton wrote:
This was not the will of the people of Hawaii. The majority of the elected disenfranchised the majority of the electorate. For the Governor and those legislators who did not allow the people of Hawaii a vote on the issue of marriage, this will be a pyrrhic victory at best. November 13, 2013 will be remembered on November 4, 2014.
on December 2,2013 | 06:50AM
dontbelieveinmyths wrote:
Yawn. For all you haters, let's hear from you if your hetero marriage exploded or any of you turned gay because of this. I don't understand what the big deal is. And please, don't talk religion. Your beliefs are a personal choice, so don't infringe it on me.
on December 2,2013 | 06:56AM
kiragirl wrote:
It is not about religion but an abnormality.
on December 2,2013 | 07:25AM
eoe wrote:
Yes an "abnormality" that has been going on since the beginning of human existence.
on December 2,2013 | 07:30AM
kiragirl wrote:
So what is your point?
on December 2,2013 | 07:51AM
kainalu wrote:
... that intolerant ignorance is as old as the Bible. There are some that think being Black is an "abnormality".
on December 2,2013 | 08:32AM
kiragirl wrote:
Did I ask you? Let EOE speak for him/herself instead of interfering!
on December 2,2013 | 10:07AM
eoe wrote:
If something has always gone on, by definition it is not abnormal, it is normal.
on December 2,2013 | 11:50AM
kiragirl wrote:
You've got to be kidding me EOE. Your definition of "normal" and your entire rationale is without reason. Wow! I did not know I was dealing with a person with your intellect or lack of.
on December 2,2013 | 01:05PM
bobstr wrote:
so has murder and prostitution, should we legalize them too????
on December 2,2013 | 09:35AM
eoe wrote:
Weak argument. We decide as a society what to accept. Just as slavery was once normal and an accepted practice from the bible, it is not anymore. Murder is allowed in certain contexts - self defense, war. Prostitution is legal in some jurisdictions, not others. You act like there is immutable law, even cite the bible as if that is the immutable law. If that is the case - if it is the immutable word of god, then why are you ignoring other passages about stoning adulterers and sabbath breakers and focusing on this one? Why? Because it suits your political agenda, hypocrite.
on December 2,2013 | 12:03PM
kiragirl wrote:
We decide as a society what to accept? Then why didn't the legislature let us decide?
on December 2,2013 | 01:07PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
The people decided to have a representative form of government when our National and State Constitutions were adopted. The people decided when they gave the power to reserve marriage to opposite sex couples (not ban ban same-sex marriage) to the Legislature. The Legislature to no longer reserve it and marriage law is within the purview of the Legislature. Don't like it? Then work to change it, but you're probably not going to win because society HAS decided that marriage equality is the moral way to go. Just because YOU haven't doesn't mean it isn't so.
on December 2,2013 | 02:15PM
kiragirl wrote:
DTG: Marriage equality is the moral way to go? Marriage equality may be the "legal" victory but in no way it is a moral way to go. We as a country have corrected many wrongs such as slavery as an example. But for same sex marriage, we as a country have moved AWAY from morality You keep repeating that we have a representative form of government and I agree IF those elected voted the way their constituents wanted. Did they? AND just because you feel same-sex marriage is morally accepted by society doesn't make it so. Morality is decided by society and not by our legislators, rather you like it or not!!!
on December 2,2013 | 04:14PM
Anonymous wrote:
You typed alot, but contradict your point alot. They don't represent your views so you don't approve of the outcome because it doesn't fit your narrow view of morality. Quit whining.
on December 2,2013 | 04:53PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
eoe, just because something has been going on for years does not make it normal. Normalcy is dependent upon majority. I'll give you a little analogy: You can take 1000 guys, line em' up and ask them to pick out their sexual preference-950 may pick a female and the other 50 pick a male. Here you can see that the (950-ar normal) and the (50-are NOT NORMAL) GET IT< GOT IT< GOOD!!
on December 2,2013 | 12:55PM
8082062424 wrote:
so has rape and murder
on December 2,2013 | 12:13PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Kiragirl, I normally dont agree with you, but, in this case you are absolutely correct.
on December 2,2013 | 12:50PM
kiragirl wrote:
From one golfer to another, may you have many one-putts.
on December 2,2013 | 01:09PM
Keolu wrote:
Being gay is also a personal choice and it's infringing on Hawaii's citizens.
on December 2,2013 | 02:18PM
dontbelieveinmyths wrote:
How?
on December 2,2013 | 03:06PM
Upperkula wrote:
I just hope these people of other sexual prefrence keep their forbiden love behind closed doors and not in front of my grandchild in the grocery line at the store. THAT"S CRACKS.
on December 2,2013 | 07:10AM
eoe wrote:
I would love to see that, granddad. Bitter old man "cracking" a buff young gay guy. That will end well.
on December 2,2013 | 07:30AM
lynnh wrote:
So we see you like to visualize gay men as young and buff. Seems you have been having some fantasies of your own?
on December 2,2013 | 08:35AM
hawaiikone wrote:
Touche.
on December 2,2013 | 04:33PM
Anonymous wrote:
Brilliant response from someone obsessed with the sex lives of others.
on December 2,2013 | 04:55PM
hawaiikone wrote:
Reading skills lacking? Seems you and little e are the obsessed ones.
on December 2,2013 | 07:07PM
gary360 wrote:
Nothing better to report on?
on December 2,2013 | 07:14AM
poipoo wrote:
Really, huh?
on December 2,2013 | 11:25AM
sooregonian wrote:
Attention Church and Clergy: NO gay ceremonies of any (ill) sort on Holy Ground. Man's law is not settled, but God's law is. The religious exemptions were not fought in vain -- so stand up for what is legally and morally defensible.
on December 2,2013 | 07:14AM
HanabataDays wrote:
Attention sooregonian: Churches and clergy who don't share your hostility are under no obligation to follow your directive.
on December 2,2013 | 07:27AM
eoe wrote:
You are right, God's law is settled. Please post the name of your church, I would like to come and watch every weekend as you stone to death adulterers, non-virgins, sabbath breakers, and people who use the lord's name in vain. What? You say you don't do that anymore? I thought God's law was settled. Moral relativism! Shopping cart Christianity!
on December 2,2013 | 07:37AM
aomohoa wrote:
Funny!
on December 2,2013 | 08:22AM
8082062424 wrote:
the difference is in most cases im not saying all but they will be the first to admit there life is not right and they are sinning. they do not pretend that what they are doing is not a sin
on December 2,2013 | 12:19PM
eoe wrote:
So maybe get your own house in order before worrying about others would be my advice.
on December 2,2013 | 01:53PM
8082062424 wrote:
when it printed in the paper it public for comment
on December 2,2013 | 03:45PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
You speak for most of the gay community? Wow, I wonder if they know that?
on December 2,2013 | 02:16PM
8082062424 wrote:
im not speaking for the gay more people who believe in the bible
on December 2,2013 | 03:44PM
Anonymous wrote:
Not what you said in your post above. "im not saying all but they will be the first to admit there life is not right and they are sinning. they do not pretend that what they are doing is not a sin". It ain't your business.
on December 2,2013 | 04:56PM
Anonymous wrote:
sorry i was referring to Christians who sin for the most part they will say there life not right and they are sinning. they will not pretend the wrong they doing is not a sin
on December 2,2013 | 06:23PM
hawaiikone wrote:
eoe, small problem with your sarcastic challenge. Christ, although agreeing with the accusers, instructed those without sin to throw their stones. Will you be the first?
on December 2,2013 | 08:08PM
puamamane wrote:
SA...quit shoving this down our throats, some people agree with this, some don't. Stop pushing your left wing agenda and maintain some journalism standards of un-biased reporting
on December 2,2013 | 07:30AM
puamamane wrote:
Maybe "shoving down our throats" was to literal but meant to be figurative
on December 2,2013 | 07:32AM
Anonymous wrote:
Sure you did.
on December 2,2013 | 04:57PM
sooregonian wrote:
cartwright -- HTA should save our money; a pacific garbage patch of alternative lifestyle types are already in the process of panhandling the $300 for a one-way (free) pass to paradise...exacerbating chronic homeless issues.
on December 2,2013 | 07:37AM
lynnh wrote:
They are sure shoving this @#@$ down our throats aren't they.
on December 2,2013 | 08:19AM
IMVHOAgain wrote:
I'm confused, Shaun Campbell was featured in the 2011 news piece about when the civil union bill was signed into law. His partner at that time wasn't Tony Singh as pictured in this article but he had the same comment about his partner being undocumented back then too. Somebody needs to investigate.
on December 2,2013 | 09:37AM
First-Responder wrote:
Enough of this already - get married, go home and leave enough alone. I'm sick of hearing about this already.
on December 2,2013 | 10:21AM
csdhawaii wrote:
Congratulations! A great day for Hawaii. Maybe after the entire US has legalized gay marriage, our divorce rates will go down.
on December 2,2013 | 10:39AM
Mana07 wrote:
I'm tired of the term "traditional" marriage. It should just be marriage and "perveted" marriage.
on December 2,2013 | 10:43AM
eoe wrote:
Is perverted marriage the one where we dress up and play games?
on December 2,2013 | 11:51AM
poipoo wrote:
No matter how hard they try to be recognized and legitimized, a vast majority of humans will never accept what they do as normal and natural. Bottom line: you can't legislate acceptance.
on December 2,2013 | 11:21AM
kiragirl wrote:
Wow! So true but "acceptance" is their agenda. If they achieve that, then it becomes normal.
on December 2,2013 | 11:50AM
Skyler wrote:
It'll never happen.
on December 2,2013 | 08:42PM
eoe wrote:
Sure you can. Once, we thought it was completely normal to marry and sleep with 12 year olds. Once, we thought it was natural to own other people. Once, we thought interracial marriage was "an abomination" (interesting that the same language is used in the thread elsewhere). Once, we thought women were too simple to vote. Go back and look - each time people used the same language you use now.
on December 2,2013 | 11:54AM
inverse wrote:
You are correct you cannot legislate acceptance but you CAN legislate equality.
on December 2,2013 | 12:26PM
fshnpoi wrote:
where's the logic?....gay men find men who look @ pic's of children in the buff disgusting, despicable, and should be locked up for life..but, find it perfectly acceptable for two donkeys to mate!??
on December 2,2013 | 11:37AM
konag43 wrote:
disgusting
on December 2,2013 | 01:39PM
eoe wrote:
What's that, your gut?
on December 2,2013 | 01:53PM
localguy wrote:
All those SSM critics were wrong. The sky did not fall, Pele did not erupt on all islands, the oceans did not swamp the islands, there was no Apocalypse. Life went on like it has ever day. Boy were they wrong as usual. Way to go. A great day in the Nei for equality.
on December 2,2013 | 03:39PM
kiragirl wrote:
The downfall of our country will not happen overnight as you may think. The decay will take year. Sad.
on December 2,2013 | 04:19PM
Anonymous wrote:
Seems like you and the rest of the extremists will find any way they can to blame anything that goes wrong in the world on this one issue. Sad (and ridiculous).
on December 2,2013 | 04:58PM
kiragirl wrote:
No blaming at all. Just stating that the decay of our morals by homosexuals in the name of marriage equality is sickening. They profess love for each other but many have l u s t instead.
on December 2,2013 | 06:36PM
DowntownGreen wrote:
How do you know that about same-sex couples? You are the one who said you didn't personally know any same-sex couples. And heterosexual couples don't do exactly the same thing? C'mon kiragirl, you know better than that.
on December 2,2013 | 08:09PM
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