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City Council committee defers bus advertising bill

By Star-Advertiser staff

LAST UPDATED: 12:24 p.m. HST, Jan 17, 2014

A bill allowing the city to sell advertising on city buses was deferred by the City Council Budget Committee today.

Council members said given the opposition to Bill 69 from the Outdoor Circle and others to Mayor Kirk Caldwell's plan, they want to see if money can be found elsewhere to make up for the up to $8 million that the administration projected could be earned by the plan.

Council Budget Chairwoman Ann Kobayashi said she will hold off further discussion on the bill until Caldwell submits his operating budget for the coming year in March.

Caldwell had proposed the money be used to restore bus service previously trimmed because of fiscal constraints, as well as new routes.

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primo1 wrote:
"...they want to see if money can be found elsewhere to make up for the up to $8 million that the administration projected could be earned by the plan." Where may I ask are they going to dig up $8M that was projected as NEW revenue?
on January 17,2014 | 10:49AM
boshio wrote:
From us and you.
on January 17,2014 | 11:07AM
mr808surfguy wrote:
why I am not surprise about this... once again the outdoor circle has to get their way and prevent the City and County from doing something that makes sense. I wwish the outhouse circle would just let us be
on January 17,2014 | 10:54AM
boshio wrote:
Its the C&C budget committee that has very little insight with what is going on now days. Its either that, or, they just does not trust nor care for our mayor. Politics as usual, we lose.
on January 17,2014 | 11:10AM
Surfer_Dude wrote:
Bunch of losers. This $8 mil was a gift. Every other major city mass transit busses has advertising on them. Thanks outdoor circle.....you punks. Same goes to you city council. Good luck in finding 8 mil somewhere else without raising taxes or diverting funds from other essential services.
on January 17,2014 | 11:01AM
boshio wrote:
Hey Dude, we are the losers.
on January 17,2014 | 11:11AM
kiragirl wrote:
We are not "every other major city". The $8 million is a projected figure and how can we lose something that was never there?
on January 17,2014 | 11:14AM
primo1 wrote:
What if you never received a raise and when inquiring why, your boss simply told you "You won't miss something you never had."
on January 17,2014 | 11:47AM
kiragirl wrote:
The mayor is just trying to push this bill so obviously he has inflated it to $8 million in my opinion. How can he actually know the amount? As far as a raise, I will never be told that. Instead, my boss will ask me How Much.
on January 17,2014 | 02:57PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Such courage. Here was an opportunity to vote with reservations and they passed up the chance.
on January 17,2014 | 11:10AM
bikemom wrote:
I think Councilmember Pine voted with reservations.
on January 17,2014 | 03:24PM
Moondog wrote:
You have got to be kidding. Outdoor circle is the Council. You guys are being bullied yourselves. The outdoor circle doesn't have to fork over money to fund things that need money we do, the taxpayer circle. Have the kahones to tell Outdoor Circle wake up or ask them if they have ways to find money for the city. Show some smart thinking and stop being told what to do when ideas for finding money are slashed by remarks from these groups. I fully support the means behind groups like the outdoor circle, but I always support finding money without raking it out from taxpayers or tourists.
on January 17,2014 | 12:29PM
boshio wrote:
How about a new Budget Committee.
on January 17,2014 | 01:33PM
LehuaRosa wrote:
This feels like discrimination. There is no law preventing advertising on vehicles in this state and there are huge trucks completely covered in advertising all over Oahu. Why shouldn't city buses be able to do what everyone else is allowed to do? It would generate revenue for the city. Otherwise the taxpayers must make up the shortfall.
on January 17,2014 | 12:48PM
boshio wrote:
This bill should at least come to committee for a debate. No new money will drop from the sky, unless you call it drop out of our wallets is new.
on January 17,2014 | 01:32PM
false wrote:
Time to dissolve the Outdoor Circle and let those old fossils fade away.
on January 17,2014 | 01:37PM
DVM wrote:
These guys defer everything. That's why everything is screwed up. I wish there was some leadership at the City Council and actually see the council vote yes or no on stuff. That's we elect those people.
on January 17,2014 | 02:27PM
Surfer_Dude wrote:
Maybe it's kind of a good thing. With the extra 8 mil, TheBus might have tried to refloat TheBoat.
on January 17,2014 | 02:54PM
MillionMonkeys wrote:
Anyone who's traveled outside of Hawaii can see what makes our islands special. It starts with "the world's most perfect weather" and how we've kept our land reasonably unspoiled. If we start allowing commercial advertising for a few bucks, we could end up looking like a lot of those lesser vacation destinations we don't even want to mention by name. If tourists feel Hawaii isn't a paradise they'll pay thousands of dollars to visit for beauty alone, we will lose more than $8 million yearly.
on January 17,2014 | 09:22PM
Surfer_Dude wrote:
Been to Waikiki lately? Paradise.....hahahahahahaha! It sure looks like a lot of those lesser vacation destinations you are referring to. Do you think the new wave of Chinese visitors are going to not come here because of a few ad signs on the busses. Seriously?
on January 17,2014 | 09:42PM
MillionMonkeys wrote:
Seriously, where do we draw the line? Yes, Waikiki already is one big tourist trap, an inevitable evil found in every tourist destination. That's why we should draw the line somewhere--after thinking about the long term effects on outsiders' perception of this vacation option. When I visit places like Puerto Rico, Thailand, New York, Hong Kong--each with its own charm, I think of how refreshingly mellow the Hawaiian environment is. That's why people come from those places to visit Hawaii nei. That's why people with money from China and Japan come here now instead of Bangkok or South Korea.
on January 17,2014 | 11:54PM
localguy wrote:
One gets the impression the kickbacks from the advertisers is not enough for our elected bureaucrats, they want more money. Nothing new here, just another day in the Nei.
on January 17,2014 | 10:04PM
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