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City Council gives initial OK to $10 trash pickup fee

By Star-Advertiser staff

LAST UPDATED: 01:58 p.m. HST, Feb 19, 2014

A bill that would charge Oahu homeowners $10 a month for the city to pick up trash received a preliminary 7-2 OK from the Honolulu City Council Wednesday.

Members Joey Manahan and Ernie Martin voted no while Ikaika Anderson, Stanley Chang, Ron Menor and Kymberly Pine voted to move the bill through "with reservations."

Bill 9 now goes to the Council Budget Committee for discussion. The bill then would still need to get two more approvals from the full Council.

Mayor Kirk Caldwell, in a rare appearance in Council chambers, testified that the bill would bring in an estimated $21 million but would only pay for part of the cost of twice-a-week pickup and monthly bulky item pickup.

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livinginhawaii wrote:
I live in a building where we pay a private firm to pick up our trash yet the city sends me a property tax breakdown showing that they are charging me for trash pick up as well. This scam perpetrated by over paid politicians and civil servants has gone on way too long...
on February 19,2014 | 12:22PM
1local wrote:
property tax is for city services. the $10 fee should be a part of property tax. Historical properties and non-profits (including Kam Schools) should be fully taxed. The $10 fee will not be deductible...
on February 19,2014 | 06:52PM
boshio wrote:
We deserve the truth from these jokers. Till now was trash pickup done for free? If yes, than why not charge $50 instead of $10, to cover he entire cost for trash pickup. Is it because they want to pretend that they are being good guys and not want to charge the full amount all at once? Second: what assurance do the city give that will guarantee that all monies collected will be used ONLY for the trash pickup cost, and none of it will end up in any general fund.
on February 19,2014 | 12:28PM
droid wrote:
boshio, notwithstanding Kirk Caldwell’s ORI Ānuenue Hale dust up, the city and county is the one place where they still do it honest. Ask yourself what gives the STATE OF HAWAI‘I the right to skim 10% OFF THE TOP of the rail transit tax? THAT has been going on since DAY 1. Gov. Linda Lingle assured taxpayers that she would put a stop to this scam. Unfortunately, the state legislature REFUSED to honor their promises to the governor and have continued to scam city taxpayers of 10% of the rail transit which they use for their PERSONAL SLUSH FUND.
on February 19,2014 | 02:10PM
Readitnow wrote:
Oh they will get to the $50 around the 3rd hike in the rate. But, they will also have to charge us $7 per month for the accounting cost to send out these bills. i.e. Board of Water Supply Then if you go on vacation, do you get a credit for non pickup? If you file a claim for it … you will probably get $6 back with another $7 accounting charge. Wow … sounds good to me!
on February 19,2014 | 04:19PM
loquaciousone wrote:
With reservations? Are they going to join Rod Tam at Zippys again?
on February 19,2014 | 12:37PM
kiragirl wrote:
What if? Nobody signed up for trash pick up? Trash will begin to pile up all over the place and a health issue would ensue plus an unsightly mess. Would the City then be able to clean up the mess and charge a fee for doing so along with a fine? Anyway, it would be tedious for trash collectors to collect only from those who sign up. I thought public transportation, fire, police and trash pick up were core services of the city from property taxes.
on February 19,2014 | 12:52PM
Honu89 wrote:
Guess the mayor needs another way to pay for city worker salaries and services he can't support because of all the money being spent on HART staff and the useless rail system
on February 19,2014 | 12:59PM
islandsun wrote:
Another reason not to vote for these clowns.....
on February 19,2014 | 01:09PM
Tenatwelve wrote:
Trash pick-up is not free. Its paid through property taxes
on February 19,2014 | 01:14PM
loquaciousone wrote:
In football, it's called an end around or a double reverse. If you can't get it one way, sneak it through.
on February 19,2014 | 02:15PM
bigwest wrote:
We pay property tax for basic City services. If there is a legitimate shortfall in covering the cost of refuse removal and disposal-- raise the property tax. To implement a new measure of charging for refuse collection will require a new billing system and personnel to oversee the new program which will erode the $10 refuse fee.
on February 19,2014 | 01:24PM
mcc wrote:
What happens to the property tax portion used to pay for trash pickup if they have us pay $10.00 per month? Is it going to be used for the rail???? So is it really a $10 rail tax? Just wondering...
on February 19,2014 | 01:41PM
kauai wrote:
I'll put money on fact that this "trash pickup fee" IS a rail tax. And don't expect that half percent GET add-on for rail to ever go away. Heck, they've already discussed it recently, disguised as an optional county GET add-on to the base GET. Politicians; the dirtiest word in the dictionary.
on February 19,2014 | 03:37PM
bsbsbs wrote:
With "reservations" - nice lack of spine Ms. Pine.
on February 19,2014 | 02:05PM
loquaciousone wrote:
You mean they're not going to Zippys?
on February 19,2014 | 02:14PM
FluidMotion wrote:
The council has not met a tax or fee increase it hasn't liked.
on February 19,2014 | 03:02PM
gsc wrote:
Ikaika just lost my Vote .
on February 19,2014 | 03:13PM
Tarakian wrote:
$10 trash fee, sounds reasonable. I'll pay it. Advertisement on City Buses, sounds reasonable. Now with this money, please do a better job repairing the roads, more frequent cleaning of the public restrooms. Add restrooms in Chinatown. Remove homeless from public streets and parks. For starters.
on February 19,2014 | 03:15PM
kauai wrote:
Pipe dream for your wishes. Don't you realize you're already paying for trash pickup via your property tax? This is double taxation.
on February 19,2014 | 03:40PM
jankenpo wrote:
These monies is to make up for all the trash pickup at sidewalks and parks done by the homeless. For all those less fortunate not paying property taxes. No can help, we gotta help.
on February 19,2014 | 03:19PM
kauai wrote:
Yeah, typical local attitude: "no can help". I'm local and I'm sick and tired of the "no can help" attitude. CAN HELP! The city needs to live within it's financial means. That's what we, the taxpayers, do every single day; LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS! If you ain't got it ($$$), then don't spend it! Very simple philosophy, common sense; OOPS, except for politicians; they don't care a rat's behind about budgeting. Sad bunch of losers....
on February 19,2014 | 03:46PM
islandsun wrote:
These are the same losers that think because this was passed taxes not going up.
on February 19,2014 | 05:00PM
st1d wrote:
the council is playing just the tip with honolulu residents. once this fee is enacted expect deeper penetrations into your wallet with fees for police, fire and ambulance services.
on February 19,2014 | 03:58PM
danji wrote:
Council members, please defeat this bill. All of you have lied cause the trash pick-up was always funded thru the property tax. The mayor is not what he claimed to be when running for the position Tell me where did the funds come from all these years. Council don't make your selves looking like an idiot. There are a lot of programs we pay for that is not a nessessity--cut thoes programs. Property txa covers all the health, safety and nessesary services for the people.
on February 19,2014 | 04:47PM
false wrote:
Wishy washy council members Anderson, Chang, Menor and Pine voting "with reservations". What's with these guys? Too timid to come out with a clear yes or no? And guys like Chang and Anderson want your vote to become U.S.congressmen? No way will I vote for any of these bozos.
on February 19,2014 | 05:16PM
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