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Honolulu traffic again the second-worst in U.S.

By Erika Engle

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LAST UPDATED: 01:46 p.m. HST, Mar 04, 2014


Honolulu traffic got 18 percent worse last year but still ranks second behind Los Angeles on the annual INRIX Traffic Scorecard.

Los Angeles drivers wasted an average of 64 hours in traffic in 2013, an 8.5 percent increase from the previous year, while Honolulu residents wasted 60 hours in traffic during the year, an 18 percent increase over 2012.

Honolulu had topped Los Angeles on the 2012 list as having the worst traffic in the U.S. in 2011.

For 2013, the INRIX list of worst roads for congestion in the U.S. lists five locations along the freeway: From Aolele Street to Moanalua Road, Koko Head bound from the Middle Street Interchange to Vineyard Blvd. and Ward Avenue overpass. Also, Ewa-bound from Kaua Street to Aiea, Koko Head-bound  from Paiwa Street to Moanalua Road, and a 5.18 mile stretch heading Ewa-bound from Koko Head Avenue.

The rest of the 2013 top five cities for worst traffic were San Francisco, Calif., Austin, Texas, and New York City.

The biggest percentage increase of hours wasted in traffic was in Boston, where traffic got 22 percent worse, up to 38 hours.

http://scorecard.inrix.com/scorecard/ 







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FrankieT wrote:
Well, you didn't know that, more reason to have the light rail in place.
on March 4,2014 | 06:49AM
richierich wrote:
Our rail route is flawed. It absolutely should have gone to the UH Manoa campus.
on March 4,2014 | 07:10AM
OldDiver wrote:
The experts disagree. Traffic to UH is mainly concentrated in the morning while traffic from downtown to Ala Moana Shopping Center and further to Waikiki is an all day affair. With limited funds it made more sense to build rail first where it would have the greatest impact and then extend the route to UH and Waikiki. Going to UH first with later legs going to Ala Moana Shopping Center and Waikiki make no sense planning wise.
on March 4,2014 | 07:49AM
localguy wrote:
OD - There you go again, spouting HART's rail shibai. You failed to mention the annual back to school jam when UH starts up. How when UH is not in session traffic is drastically reduced, how UH traffic is really tied to times students get out of class. Here is what you and HART fail to admit, taking rail to UH was and still is a smart idea. In comparison, San Diego's trolley has a station directly under San Diego State University (SDSU). Want to bet how many thousands of students use this ever day? San Diego trolley is expanding north towards La Jolla. Stops will be at University of California at San Diego (UCSD) and at the main Veteran's Administration medical center. Want to guess how many tens of thousands of people will use this route every week day? Sad to say HART kow towed to the bureaucrats and special interest groups to only go to Ala Moana. But lets be real, anyone doing major shopping will not be taking rail. Too many things to carry in too little space. HART hasn't got a clue how to manage rail. Never did.
on March 4,2014 | 09:00AM
Rite80 wrote:
You fail to understand the big picture. The largest increase in demand for alternative modes of transportation in the future will come from the downtown to Waikiki area. Rail is being built for the future.
on March 4,2014 | 10:23AM
what wrote:
You fail to understand the big picture. The rail is not going to Waikiki, and the big picture is that absolutely nothing has been done to upgrade, improve, and expand Honolulu's highway system for decades, which is the REAL cause of traffic congestion in this growing City. Highways and roads are truly the number 1 contributor to quality of life but this City and some of it's citizens are too dumb to know that.
on March 4,2014 | 10:44AM
OldDiver wrote:
In the big picture routes to UH and Waikiki will be build in the future. Fact is there is no room to build more freeways.
on March 4,2014 | 11:45AM
what wrote:
For five billion dollars there are plenty of options for building more freeways.
on March 4,2014 | 01:15PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Double deck the H-1, as they do in San Francisco, in downtown Honolulu, by closing the Pali Highway for however long to construct a new H-4 from Windward Oahu to Kahala as a double decked freeway. Or move out Government offices out to Kapolei. The State is already planning for the afternoon Zip Lane (no not to sell Zip Pacs), for the anticipated need for it. If that happens, how many will switch over to TheTrain? The traffic on the Freeways is a State DOT issue not a City DOT issue. Why did the City jump the gun to build a possible "Train to Nowhere", maybe because Cousin Moofee desired to be King Hannemann? Could be one never knows.
on March 4,2014 | 01:34PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Again nothing in the article quotes Rail, but you know, the LOSERS gotta spout off.
on March 4,2014 | 03:27PM
what wrote:
OldDiver you are proving you don't know what you're talking about. Like you say, "traffic is mainly concentrated in the morning". That's what we are trying to fix, peak traffic, in the morning, so why are you trying to play it down? Even if the rail went to UH, it would still go to Ala Moana and or Wakiki, so why not do it all? You try to say that there are "limited funds", but that's more lies from you. We have the money to go to UH, money is not, was not, the problem. But if you step back even more, this is all shibai because traffic is bad because we have done NOTHING for decades to improve, upgrade, or expand any highway in Honolulu, which is the greater mistake.
on March 4,2014 | 10:28AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
The fact of the matter is that while most traffic to downtown comes from West Oahu, the final destination point is NOT all in downtown Honolulu. I took CE 361 from Assistant Professor Costakis Papacostas from UHM in 1978. I would know and if not me, then whoever is running the State of Hawaii Department of Transportation -- Highways Division. Some travel from Waianae to Kapolei to work. Some travel from Kapolei to Pearl City to work. Some even from Aiea to Makiki to work, as my sister does for The Division of Wildlife, State Department of Land and Natural Resources. Therefore, all UHM students do not take the full 13 mile ride from Kapolei to Ala Moana Shopping Center. IQ 93? Or maybe 150?
on March 4,2014 | 01:16PM
Mickels8 wrote:
Yes rail will push Hawaii to the #1 spot when current transit riders chose to drive in rather than double their commute times on the current Express buses. Current bus riders are projected to be over 80% of the total rail ridership. I actually think this percentage is understated. Higher public transit fares for longer commute and standing up for an hour. No thanks. If Express buses are currently unappealing, rail with it's higher fares, feeder bus transfers and longer total commute times will definitely not attract any new ridership. The County had an award winning transit system in place and ruined it. Now current bus riders will drive in and cause more traffic.
on March 4,2014 | 07:23AM
OldDiver wrote:
Same old argument we hear around the country from those opposed to rail. Funny thing is those argument are sort of like astrology, toss out enough half truths hoping to be right at something.
on March 4,2014 | 07:54AM
Mickels8 wrote:
Half truths is what pro-railers, who have no functional knowledge or experience pertaining to the current westside transit options, spew. I rode the Express bus from Kapoei to downtown for 20 years. My morning commute ranged from 30-45 minutes every morning. When UH is out, it's closer to the 30-35 minutes. That's not a half truth, it's a fact based on twenty years of weekday Express bus commutes. Aside from the once-in-three year or so event where a traffic fatality shuts down the freeway during rush hour, I've had a very pleasant experience either sleeping or reading the free paper on the commute to and from work. As a result, when I arrive home, I am rested and have plenty of energy to spend time with the family. Rail would add two transfer legs to my commute. Anyone that has every transferred on public transit knows how uncertain estimating arrival times can be. It would not be unreasonable to assume 20-30 minutes of additional time for these feeder transfers. The rail leg timetable is set and the equivalent of my entire express bus commute. Thus, in total travel time, rail would effectively double my current commute on the Express bus. This is not a half truth, it's a fact based on my twenty years of weekday Express bus commutes. What functional experience do you have with the westside commute that justifies your spread of misinformation about the benefits of rail? That's what I thought...NONE
on March 4,2014 | 08:46AM
false wrote:
You got it right but guess what the city will do……….yup, change the bus routes and try to force you to ride the bugga.
on March 4,2014 | 10:11AM
Rite80 wrote:
Mick, you are stuck in the past. Rail is being built for future growth on the Westside.
on March 4,2014 | 10:25AM
what wrote:
Nothing wrong with planning for the future, except when you ignore the number one most important factor that contributes to the quality of life: highways! And you ignore fiscal sanity and plan to BANKRUPT A CITY on a project that is too big for its citizens to swallow.
on March 4,2014 | 10:47AM
islandsun wrote:
Rail is the excuse to develop everywhere on the line, but especially the Westside. Since the majority voted for it, let's not hear anymore whining about traffic or delays.
on March 4,2014 | 03:59PM
localguy wrote:
OD - There you go again, spouting HART's half truths, failed logic, usual spin to cover their utter incompetence. One would think HART would come up with something new, but noooo. Stuck in the mud, never making any progress. Bunch of clueless bureaucrats.
on March 4,2014 | 09:02AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Hey Mr. Diver you guys won in court, so no need to bloat. We are going to build YourTrain. Because your first name is Old, I hope you live to 2017 to be one of the first passengers on it. Remember no Seniors allowed on YourTrain unless you buy a regular BusPass, not a Senior BusPass because we know you will ride it only once, not the daily commute that those who ride Routes A, B, C and E go on now. By the way, why are you defending TheRail when you will not be using it?
on March 4,2014 | 01:41PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Mick thinks that current bus riders will ditch the rail, buy a car, purchase gas and insurance, drive to town for 2 hours in the a.m. ,then park their cars for $20 a day. Do you think bus riders have a choice? If we all had money, we would live in Honolulu and buy a 2 million dollar house or 1 million dollar condo.
on March 4,2014 | 08:00AM
Mickels8 wrote:
Busriders already own cars but choose not to drive them. Obviously you are one of the westsiders that voted for rail hoping that everyone else will ride it. If the County allowed Express buses and rail to operate concurrently, no one would ride rail. It's that simple.
on March 4,2014 | 08:25AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Mickel, you need to think this through. If you combine the rail and the bus system and have them working as 1 transportation system, then it will work. We wont need all these "express buses" running from Waianae to town, or Kapolei to town, or Waipahu to town, or Aiea to town. Are you begining to see the logic. These current express buses will be used more as hub-station going into the area neighborhoods to pick up and drop off at the rail stations. Think about it, were taking cars off, and buses off the freeway at the same time. So you see, your last comment is totally invalid. You and many people in Hawaii just cant see outside of the box in the way things are run, and until we start understanding this, we are only holding ourselves back from moving forward. Example in point-same ole politictians doing same ole thing, Same ole studies to study a study to determine we need to hire a law firm to choose a consulting company from the mainland to tell us how to do things. WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THINGS RIGHT HERE IN THE AINA, IF WE ONLY TRUST OURSELVES!
on March 4,2014 | 09:32AM
loquaciousone wrote:
You should stick to golfing. You have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously you've never relied on mass transit for transportation or you wouldn't throw around shuttle bus transfers as only minor issues. You have no idea how much time each transfer would take. Put your car keys away for a year and try riding the bus for a year. Your tune will change, I guarantee it. .
on March 4,2014 | 12:06PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
"And it goes on and on, watching the river run, further and further away, run river run".
on March 4,2014 | 03:15PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Be truthful Mick, are you a westsider? Not to be confused with Westerner.lol.
on March 4,2014 | 03:29PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
NanakuliBoss wrote: "Mick thinks that current bus riders will ditch the rail, buy a car, purchase gas and insurance, drive to town for 2 hours in the a.m. ,then park their cars for $20 a day. Do you think bus riders have a choice? If we all had money, we would live in Honolulu and buy a 2 million dollar house or 1 million dollar condo."

I think you should read what you wrote again. You seem to think that the only people who will ride the train are the people who can't afford their own car. You are probably right about that.


on March 4,2014 | 08:37AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
That's right about that. And also people who are handicapped and by necessity and not choice, who take TheBus to and from work. Handicapped people are some of the most wonderful people in this world. I know a person who has worked as a Custodian for 20 years at the same location, daily catching TheBus to and from work, using the annual bus pass which costs only $30. Nowadays, with the internet and stuff, one can do a lot on TheBus. For example, from the time that I rode TheBus to and from school, by the way, Kalakaua Middle School and Farrington High School, the times when the "chukalaka" green HRT buses broke down a lot, to today when TheBus locations are controlled by GPS, so we know exactly when a bus will arrive if you use TheBus HEA app, and the pleasant man's voice on TheBus, telling u where u are, so u can pull the ringer to get off, TheBus is much improved, even from its award as the nation's best Bus system. Now at times I have had qualms about the overpricing of TheRail, except if we can make it work, then all the better. Make sure u catch TheBus and TheTrain and TheCAB (no this last one true, I just like Frank DeLima lol).
on March 4,2014 | 09:11AM
what wrote:
The are wonderful people everywhere, not just on TheBus. You make silly points to justify your flawed reasoning.
on March 4,2014 | 10:33AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Hey wait a minute who are you calling flawed. I am an anti-railer, so why are you going against me?
on March 4,2014 | 01:43PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
By the way the handicapped person I'm talking about is my brother.
on March 4,2014 | 01:48PM
what wrote:
I wasn't wonderful enough to slow down and absorb your words better.
on March 4,2014 | 11:52PM
sailfish1 wrote:
I think current bus riders will try to continue using the buses - assuming that they still have express buses after rail is finished. The express buses were the best way to get to town and will probably have lower commute times than the rail. The rail will require too many transfers which means lots more wait times. From places like Mililani, nobody is going to ride a bus to a rail station.
on March 4,2014 | 10:14AM
pakeheat wrote:
Not only transfers, what do you think about the one stop for every mile? Ridiculous LOL. You are exactly right, why should bus riders already on the H1 head down Kapolei to transfer to catch the train, even so with those driving from West Side already on the H1 drive to Kapolei, park their cars, then hop on the train, endure 20 stops, then get off to downtown and also transfer on the bus to get to their nearest work destination? Whew! I'm tired already just typing it, LOL.
on March 4,2014 | 11:25AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
For those anti's who live in town and never have a clue, H1 traffic stalls at Makakilo Drive in the a.m. So to get off at Kapolei and get the rail, heaven. The country express bus, which has the whole aisle standing, do so for 1 and a half hour. I pity those who didn't get a seat.
on March 4,2014 | 03:19PM
pakeheat wrote:
Stop watching so many Star Trek movies NB, its the time to go to Kapolei to find parking and then hop on the train, by that time I will be in DT. You caught the Express bus into town recently NB? You are telling us that each day there is standing room all the time? Where you got this nonsense?
on March 4,2014 | 07:59PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
It amazes me the level of prognostication I see in people and their theories of what and how the rail will negatively impact our traffic. Please somebody explain to me in a rational sense how ADDING RAIL will make traffic worse. Sure duing the construction of the rail, their will definately be problems and probably increased traffic, but once completed, how could the traffic do anything but IMPROVE. Makes no sense to have some numbskull tell me traffic will be WORSE with rail. That is as idiotic as somebody telling me the more you eat the more weight you will lose. So please, explain to me how the rail will make it worse.
on March 4,2014 | 09:24AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
GONEGOLFIN wrote: "It amazes me the level of prognostication I see in people and their theories of what and how the rail will negatively impact our traffic. Please somebody explain to me in a rational sense how ADDING RAIL will make traffic worse."

Here's how. The rail is costing us over 5 BILLION dollars to runs service from DR Horton's newest development to the fancy mall. It doesn't go from where people live in Ewa, Kapolei and Wainae and doesn't go where they need to go in Waikiki and UH.

Rail is costing us precious resources, time, money and effort. No one is address the very real need for more roads (and water and sewage and trash infrastructure) and traffic solution. For the past decade, Honolulu mayors have had a vested interest in NOT addressing traffic problems as it makes the "need" for rail more pressing. Look how much time, money and effort out mayors have spent on trips to cities with trains and trips to DC to meet congressmen and to talk about trains. Imagine if they spent 1/4 that effort to address traffic concerns, widen and improve roads, synchronize traffic signals and do the myriad of other nothing's that they could have been doing all this time.

No, as traffic reaches a crisis, we have gone all in on this silly train. These crazy ridership projections are going to be the Hawaii Health Connector all over again, except, by the time we all realize that was an impossible lie, we will be $6 billion or so dollars in the hole.


on March 4,2014 | 12:56PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
So really folks, for the anti's it's about I DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE RAIL SYSTEM BECAUSE I WON'T USE IT. That's the selfish attitude.
on March 4,2014 | 03:22PM
false wrote:
With that being said I am still planning to use my personal vehicle. Don't give a flying one about the rail. LOL
on March 4,2014 | 10:09AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Light rail might make some sense. Elevated heavy rail, a technology that nobody uses anywhere, well, that's not going to do squat for congestion.
on March 4,2014 | 07:43AM
loio wrote:
Maneki Neko, you make the best point yet.
on March 4,2014 | 09:14AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Your statement makes absolutely no sense. How would light vs heavy be any different in the end result? Why dont we throw out another invalid statment and see if it sticks.
on March 4,2014 | 09:34AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
OK....let's see....what costs more? A light rail system or 20 miles of concrete in the sky with huge flying platforms and vast podiums...Oh, never mind we already know the elevated heavy rail costs $50,000 per foot and is the most expensive project of its kind.
on March 4,2014 | 10:41AM
loquaciousone wrote:
He he he. Someone should have gone golfin instead. Obviously being obtuse doesn't bar you from this forum.
on March 4,2014 | 12:08PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Light rail on ground level, crossing streets, traffic lights,pedestrians, sidewalks etc.etc. competing with ground traffic? Doesn't make sense. Again the anti goes back to his TAXES.
on March 4,2014 | 03:25PM
false wrote:
Only in Hawaii though eh? Mufi got one on all of us on this. Basically the rail ballot question was do you want this kind of rail or that kind of rail. You never had a choice to say no but oh well let's sit on the sidelines and see how our money is spent. LOL
on March 4,2014 | 10:17AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
FrankieT wrote: "Well, you didn't know that, more reason to have the light rail in place."

We aren't building light rail. We are building elevated HEAVY rail. If the city had gone with light rail, they might have actually put it where it needed to go.

Instead we have a $5 billion rail project that goes from a developer's previously undevelopable suburban sprawl to upscale shopping mall that avoids Ewa, Kapolei, Wainae, UH, and Waikiki.


on March 4,2014 | 08:35AM
frontman wrote:
Rail is a cancer in the lungs of Hawaii.
on March 4,2014 | 11:07AM
soundofreason wrote:
When those 37 people start riding rail, it'll be a whole new world.
on March 4,2014 | 06:51AM
ryan02 wrote:
I heard one of them is pregnant, so there will actually be 38 people riding the rail.
on March 4,2014 | 07:50AM
lowtone123 wrote:
With twins...39.
on March 4,2014 | 09:47AM
soundofreason wrote:
I believe I've been 2 "up'd"
on March 4,2014 | 05:33PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Makakilo overpass to Paiwa street, kkhd bound, in the a.m. That's killa's.
on March 4,2014 | 07:55AM
false wrote:
36 - I still be using my car. Thank you though.
on March 4,2014 | 10:18AM
lowtone123 wrote:
We already knew that
on March 4,2014 | 07:00AM
frontman wrote:
The saddest thing about this is that RAIL will remove only 1% of the cars off the roads if it ever finished. What a waste of 5 BILLION dollars.
on March 4,2014 | 07:09AM
mcc wrote:
I bet it reaches $10 billion.
on March 4,2014 | 08:11AM
Ewasohappy wrote:
Or more?
on March 4,2014 | 08:25AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Well I'm one that's hoping that the $641M budgeted for contingencies is not needed, hence reducing the PROJECT COST STATUS to about $4,500M or $4.5B ... See page 3 of the February 28, 2014 issue of Pacific Business News. We might as well embrace TheRail now that it's here. Now if the COSTS really do go up to $10B, then that means it is highly mismanaged.
on March 4,2014 | 02:00PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
They've already spent the contingency fund.
on March 4,2014 | 02:25PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
How much?
on March 4,2014 | 09:39AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
That is a calculation. The thing about calculations are: ITS A CALCULATION! Nobody knows till it is built and running. Till then, you are only wasting our time with what will ultimately be an untruth.
on March 4,2014 | 09:38AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
The Hawaii Health Connector was a "calculation" that flew in the face of reason too. It only took us two years to find out how incredibly, mind numbing lay wrong they were.

By the time everyone finds out that the train ridership projections were equally fanciful, we will have spent over 5 billion dollars on on Italian trains and giant concrete platforms.


on March 4,2014 | 12:59PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Your prediction will come true.
on March 4,2014 | 02:01PM
topgun wrote:
We should all ride horses.
on March 4,2014 | 07:09AM
Green Warrior wrote:
Imua rail!
on March 4,2014 | 07:17AM
what wrote:
Oh look, the $10 million PRP construction union ad campaign brainwashed at least one victim with their slogan.
on March 4,2014 | 10:36AM
Green Warrior wrote:
Should go all the way to UH though.
on March 4,2014 | 07:17AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Green Warrior wrote: "Should go all the way to UH though."

Sorry. It goes to Saks Fifth Avenue and Armani instead. Now get back to work, you owe HART ~$5,000 to pay for this thing.


on March 4,2014 | 08:39AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Speaking of HART, I wonder why HART does not do its weekly Ads that they show in Pacific Business News (PBN) on the Honolulu Star-Advertiser. Perhaps the HSA is trying to rip off HART ??? Never can tell with a monopoly Newspaper !!!
on March 4,2014 | 08:46AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Well I differ from your thoughts, as I grad from Farrington in 1975, UH in 1979, and again in 1981 (omg Masters). What TheTrain could and will do will provide fast service to Ala Moana Shopping Center, where a bunch of TheBus will be waiting to Express to UHM.
on March 4,2014 | 08:44AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Take your bike, get off the rail and ride to UH-how hard is that?
on March 4,2014 | 09:39AM
false wrote:
So…….. what's with the imua rail. It isn't going to the UH.
on March 4,2014 | 10:20AM
oahuson wrote:
The city of Honolulu's population is too large not to have a mass transit system other than "The Bus". For those naysayers who believe that only 37 people will take advantage of the now certain light rail system, you will be proven wrong. I am always amazed how many people criticize good solutions to chronic problems that plague this city without providing any viable alternatives. The main complaint that I hear is "It is too expensive". Get over it. Living in paradise is expensive and will always be. The rail system will benefit everyone in some way, shape or form even if you don't understand or believe it yet.
on March 4,2014 | 07:22AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Elevated heavy rail from an empty field to a shopping center isn't the solution.
on March 4,2014 | 07:44AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Would you rather it start from your living room, or better yet, your bedroom, so you can roll your lazy self outta bed and into the rail? They have to start it somewhere, and where it is starting is as good as any.
on March 4,2014 | 09:41AM
what wrote:
What a dumb response. No, we would like to have it start from a dense population center.
on March 4,2014 | 10:38AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Maybe you are another version of OldDiver and wiliki, calling people's comments dumb, baloney and flawed.
on March 4,2014 | 01:52PM
what wrote:
Bologna!
on March 4,2014 | 11:55PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Ewa Beach, Kapolei, UH Manoa, Salt Lake, Waikiki....all places the rail may have added benefit. But no, it goes from a developers wet dream to a shopping mall.

Everybody on this island knows that when UH is out the traffic is obviously lighter. But does the choo choo go where it might do good? Nope, nope, nope


on March 4,2014 | 10:43AM
mcc wrote:
Downtown to UH might work for a start.
on March 4,2014 | 12:33PM
Mickels8 wrote:
HART plans to replace the effective express buses with your "light rail" system. By doing so, westside residents will suffer through 10 years of construction traffic only to find the replacement system results in a higher fare, significantly longer total transit time, more buses overall to maintain feeder timeframes to rail stations and more cars on the road. Traffic around these rail hubs and neighborhood surface streets will be bad. If any of you rail supporters ever rode the westside express buses you would know the current system is fine. Check out the bus schedules. The times I am telling you are not aberrations but the norm. My admin assistant catches the Mililani Express in daily: 35-40 minute average AM. The rail would take at least one hour a day away from my family. That's 20 hours a month or 10 full days a year at minimum. You advocate for rail like you know what is best for the westside public transit user. Please stop, the Express buses are a better option for us.
on March 4,2014 | 09:02AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Thank you-good commment.
on March 4,2014 | 09:40AM
pakeheat wrote:
Your saying rail be the "SOLUTION" to our traffic woes? where did you come with that fantasy oahuson?
on March 4,2014 | 11:33AM
h20dragon wrote:
I would be interested in understanding how they determined this number. Yesterday it took me two hours to come from the Waianae Coast into downtown Honolulu. At least today it only took an hour and 15 minutes. If you do the drive outside of rush hour it is only a 45 minute trip. So if I were to add up at least an half an hour extra each way that is 5 extra hours on the road per week times 52 weeks equates to 260 hours extra on the roads due to rush hour traffic (of course it would be a bit less since when UH is out the time is a bit shorter each way.) So, where did 60 hours come from? Those who live in town and encounter the 'rush hour" traffic in the 5 miles from their home to their job?
on March 4,2014 | 07:29AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
My sentiments exactly. Where do they come up with these nubmers-not even close the to the normal comute time.
on March 4,2014 | 09:43AM
808mobile wrote:
Yesterday there was a story about the Handi-Van service being notoriously late, then today we can see in this photo one of the lift buses stuck in the gridlock.
on March 4,2014 | 07:33AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Well at least we know that we are on the competitive scale with Los Angeles. I lived in Ventura County from 1982 to 1986, on a sort of "mission" that my college professor, Dr. Arthur N.L. Chiu assigned me to. You see, I had been working for Dr. Chiu as a Research Assistant from 1980 to 1981, on one of his so-called "Wind" projects. Dr. Chiu wrote about free-standing towers in 1961 for his doctorate from The University of Florida. He had his Masters from MIT and his Bachelor's from Oregon State, and he was originally from Singapore. He met his wife at Oregon State and they lived a long and happy life until his sudden death in 2007 via a stroke he suffered after a professional society meeting. That was a shocker to me, as I had no idea, and when I called his wife Katherine to offer my deepest condolences, we consoled each other. I had always wondered why Katherine had gained so much weight.
on March 4,2014 | 07:34AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
All of that seemed like a digression and it really was, except as Jay Leno had mentioned thousands of times of his Tonight Show, give them as much details as possible, to let them know that one is telling the truth. So anyway, what this all means is that I have had a lot of experience driving the Freeways of Los Angeles, and the conclusion reached by the originator of this study may not have it completely right. For example, Los Angeles is the second largest Metropolitan city in the United States, next to New York, and compare Honolulu with Los Angeles, solely on lost time on the streets, is not plausible. One of the things is that Honolulu has barely a million people, while Los Angeles (greater LA) has upwards of 10 million people. I have driven on those highways, and most notably I remember the 405 and the 101. You can't even compare the fright that you go through to get through the LA traffic compared to Honolulu. There you have many off ramps for example that go to the left, compared to only one major one in Honolulu, the H-1 East going up to the H-2 North.
on March 4,2014 | 07:44AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Sshhhh.
on March 4,2014 | 07:53AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
By the way I met a person by the name of Elroy Wong at Nanakuli McDonald's. Is that you?
on March 4,2014 | 07:59AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Now to get to the meat of the story. Shamelessly, I worked for the Federal Government for four years, namely the 1982 to 1986 I mentioned. Why do I say that? Pacific Business News has reported that the biggest industry is Hawaii is Government, with Tourism second, Retail third, and Real Estate fourth. I forgot which edition it was, and it was at least two summers ago. What that meant was that Government employed the most people in Hawaii and that seems plausible, except is Government the driving force in our economy? Maybe so, even with Tourism seemingly the Bread and Butter. Here's the deal: Unions have a stranglehold on our Government, especially our State and our City. You note yesterday I had seen a City worker, in an official vehicle, purchasing 10 cans of Pork and Beans at Times Aiea. Well there at its core, is the inefficiency in our Government, and also OUR INEFFICIENCY IN OUR TRAFFIC. The most telling day of the year is Kuhio Day, as if we check out the H-1, both morning and afternoon, we see that it is free and clear, with only the Federal Government working on that day. What that means is that State and City government workers are clogging our Freeways !!!!!
on March 4,2014 | 07:56AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
So in effect our City is hell bent on creating jobs by doing TheRail, and I have no qualms about creating jobs, except will the people, comfortably set in their ways, with State and City subsidized parking downtown, get out of their cars and into TheTrain? Maybe, maybe not. My dad, who passed away in 1991, was a drunken smoke stack man, who passed away too early after having served for our country in The Korean War. My dad was a Carpenter and therefore a Construction Worker. So naturally I support any means to get our construction industry going. Except is ThisRail a bridge to nowhere that Sarah Palin so exposed in her bid to become the Vice-President of the United States. ThisRail could be a bridge to nowhere, if your own State and City workers do not get out of their cars and get onto the train. Now I worked for The Federal Government, and how easy of a job is that? I remember I got to a GS-11. Well anyway, if your State and City workers do not jump their cars and go onto the Train, TheRail will become the next BridgeToNowhere, except for those that want to traverse the vast open spaces between Ala Moana Shopping Center and Kapolei Shopping Center.
on March 4,2014 | 08:07AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
What will it take to realize that Government has created this mess on our H-1, H-2, and H-3, and that we are blaming the people for using the convenience of the Freeways to traverse from Makaha, Waianae, Nanakuli, Kapolei, Ewa Beach, Kunia, Pearl City, Mililani, North Shore (all parts), Kailua, Kaneohe and even Aiea, into downtown all because said Government workers cannot afford the sky high real estate on Hawaii Loa Ridge, Aina Haina, Kahala, Hawaii Kai and even Kakaako ?? Governor Abercrombie and Mayor Caldwell, you two have the "executive" power to make sure that TheTrain is working to its fullest, by "ordering" your employees to go try the train, not because Government workers are "just" Civil Service workers and they have a lot of time on their hands, however it is the right thing to do. If your Government workers do not take advantage of TheTrain, which so much has invigorated our Construction Industry, then you have failed us, Admiral Neil and Captain Kirk !!!!!
on March 4,2014 | 08:26AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
THE END LOL !!!!!
on March 4,2014 | 08:30AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
p.s. thanks for the details Erika. u know who i am.
on March 4,2014 | 08:34AM
ruthandnancy wrote:
I have lived for many years in both Los Angeles and Honolulu. Los Angeles wins hands down for the worst traffic on a daily basis anywhere in the United States. Could regale you with many stories of spending at least four hours in traffic to go a lousy 15 or 18 miles. All it takes is one minor traffic accident and you are sunk.
on March 4,2014 | 10:20AM
primowarrior wrote:
Planning schedules and choosing destinations in order to avoid that traffic mess, especially during rush hour, seems to have become a way of life, at least for me and those I know. It's unfortunate that traffic has become such a factor in our daily lives, but I guess that's the price of living in paradise.
on March 4,2014 | 07:49AM
fairgame947 wrote:
If the city's own study prior to beginning rail said that it would reduce traffic less than 2% is true, what good will it really do?
on March 4,2014 | 07:54AM
mcc wrote:
Jobs for the union bruddas. That is why PRP bought the election.
on March 4,2014 | 08:14AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
If you can, look on the third page of Pacific Business News, the latest edition, and it shows the usual updates of Income and Expense for TheRail. One glaring thing I noticed was that the GET collection is not on projection, so we need to presume that either the GET collection will get extended, Property Taxes will be raised, or the City will issue more Municipal Bonds to cover themselves, which will raise their debt service, which may cause rating agencies such as Moody's and S&P to downgrade the City's debt, which will in turn increase debt service, which if not checked soon enough, will lead to bankruptcy, the cause usually being spending beyond means.
on March 4,2014 | 08:54AM
MakaniKai wrote:
HonoluluHawaii – your post above is the core of this fiscal nightmare that did not happen overnight. Unfortunately the average citizen is clueless, does not bother to vote or truly believes money grows on trees. I grew up on this island and lived in San Diego from 98 – 02. When I left traffic was not that bad. While in S.D. I was quite scared of the speed involved with getting on and driving the freeway but got used to it. Needless to say since moving back home our traffic on Oahu now mirrors San Diego. Scary! Our problem is too many cars for the infrastructure on a remote island thus roads not designed to carry the load it bears today, out of sync traffic lights (that one drives my Mom nuts!) and the list goes on. Mahalo for your other posts; although lengthy I took the time to read.
on March 4,2014 | 12:41PM
MakaniKai wrote:
HonoluluHawaii – your post is the core of this fiscal nightmare that has been years in the making. I grew up on Oahu and moved to San Diego 98-02. When I left Oahu traffic was not that bad. Upon returning home the traffic is more and more like SoCal to include rude drivers. The bottom line is this island infrastructure was never meant to carry the burden placed on it, poor signage, out of sync traffic lights (drives my Mom nuts!) just to name a few. Mahalo for your posts; although lengthy I did take the time to read them. Greed $$$ and overpopulation have created a decline in the quality of life that rail will never cure!
on March 4,2014 | 01:14PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Thanks Bud
on March 4,2014 | 02:05PM
inverse wrote:
They bought it and used voter suppression to guarantee the win
on March 4,2014 | 01:37PM
Mei mei wrote:
not surprised!
on March 4,2014 | 08:07AM
mcc wrote:
Why are building a rail when we should fix our roads, our water mains and sewer lines. That will help with freeing up traffic.
on March 4,2014 | 08:22AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
mcc wrote: "Why are building a rail when we should fix our roads, our water mains and sewer lines. That will help with freeing up traffic."

When the taxpayers and ordinary citizens start showing up in red tee-shirts, making enormous political contributions, and voting as a huge bloc, we'll get some love too. Until then, PRP and their developer and construction members are going to run things.


on March 4,2014 | 08:43AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
I'll tell you why. If we wait another 30 years, like we have since the first introduction of a rail system that we passed on then we are only postponing the inevitable-#1 worst traffic rating and a 3 hour venture into work each day. Now do you understand? Granted we have other issues, but the funding and revenue is separate from the funding for our roads, sewers........
on March 4,2014 | 09:52AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Wait until the rail is up and running....then we'll be Number 1.
on March 4,2014 | 08:31AM
mcc wrote:
We will be number 1 during construction.
on March 4,2014 | 09:39AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
But if you got to go #2 in a hurry, you better find a bush.
on March 4,2014 | 10:45AM
loquaciousone wrote:
The majority of the projected rail riders will be already using the bus. People don't change habits. Riding the rail will take longer than the bus and the possibility of having to stand all the way into town in greater on the rail. Why would residents give up the luxury and convenience of the rail for their air conditioned personal cars?
on March 4,2014 | 08:34AM
MakaniKai wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong. The rail stations are not going to be designed for park (your car) and ride, rather you have to ride the bus to the station. Making no sense to me if this is the process. If I was already riding the bus why would I get off the bus to board the train???? Neither option work for my present commute from central Oahu to the windward side. ;-O
on March 4,2014 | 01:50PM
Ewasohappy wrote:
Number 2? c'mon Hawaii, let's go for #1!
on March 4,2014 | 08:37AM
localguy wrote:
Most of the traffic problems come from shoddy road design, starting with the H1/2 merge fiasco. Who in their right mind merges a fast lane and a slow lane then wonders why traffic is backing up? Should have been all lanes coming together, stay in your lane, then an outside lane can gradually merge in, allowing traffic to flow. Check out freeways in California where up to 14 lanes come together as freeways merge, gradually narrowing down, traffic flowing well. Not to mention Los Angeles has synched all their traffic lights while the Nei still uses 50s tech pressure plates and timers. Our traffic center is where bureaucrats sit on their o k o l e and watch the jams, doing nothing to really make it better. And lets not forget our dysfunctional freeway electronic information signs that still show a road is open even though a major traffic accident is blocking traffic. We will be #1 in traffic. It is our destiny.
on March 4,2014 | 09:08AM
kiragirl wrote:
So what happens UNTIL rail is built? Definitely we will rank #1 and after rail is built years from now, nobody will be able to out rank us.
on March 4,2014 | 09:08AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Well at least number two is still okay though the 43-40 loss at Blaisdell Center hurt.
on March 4,2014 | 10:10AM
kiragirl wrote:
Yeah. We were against a slow down game and a school that recruits.
on March 4,2014 | 11:13AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Yah I was there at the game with my brother and how could an academic institution such as Iolani have many players over six feet, and one at six feet seven?
on March 4,2014 | 02:03PM
localguy wrote:
Most of the traffic problems come from shoddy road design, starting with the H1/2 merge fiasco. Who in their right mind merges a fast lane and a slow lane then wonders why traffic is backing up? Should have been all lanes coming together, stay in your lane, then an outside lane can gradually merge in, allowing traffic to flow. Check out freeways in California where up to 14 lanes come together as freeways merge, gradually narrowing down, traffic flowing well. Not to mention Los Angeles has synched all their traffic lights while the Nei still uses 50s tech pressure plates and timers. Our traffic center is where bureaucrats sit on their o k o l e and watch the jams, doing nothing to really make it better. And lets not forget our dysfunctional freeway electronic information signs that still show a road is open even though a major traffic accident is blocking traffic. We will be #1 in traffic. It is our destiny.
on March 4,2014 | 09:09AM
localguy wrote:
Most of the traffic problems come from shoddy road design, starting with the H1/2 merge fiasco. Who in their right mind merges a fast lane and a slow lane then wonders why traffic is backing up? Should have been all lanes coming together, stay in your lane, then an outside lane can gradually merge in, allowing traffic to flow. Check out freeways in California where up to 14 lanes come together as freeways merge, gradually narrowing down, traffic flowing well. Not to mention Los Angeles has coordinated all their traffic lights while the Nei still uses 50s tech pressure plates and timers. Our traffic center is where bureaucrats sit on their o k o l e and watch the jams, doing nothing to really make it better. And lets not forget our dysfunctional freeway electronic information signs that still show a road is open even though a major traffic accident is blocking traffic. We will be #1 in traffic. It is our destiny.
on March 4,2014 | 09:09AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Also there are green and red lights at freeway entrances that will coordinate traffic flow. When I first drove in those conditions, I was thinking, what the heck, we only have traffic lights at City Intersections, not for Freeway onramps. Then it dawned on me that to improve traffic flow, a great way to do it, is to let traffic into the freeway one or two at a time. Consider the on-ramp to the H-1 West from the Pearl City Industrial Area, which is fed by Kam Highway. There is always a bottleneck there, and then free flowing traffic on the H-1 West all the way to Kapolei. Why? Because there's no Green and Go traffic light there, there are slow drivers (and I really mean that those that are over 70 years old trying to show off on a freeway, and just going 45 MPH on the right lane, when the speed limit is 55 MPH). The snail's pace 15 MPH onramp traffic there helps create that monstrous bottleneck which causes the H-1 West to slow down all the way to the H-201 West. In other words, it seems impossible to think, however to increase efficiency on the freeways, it seems a good way is to INCREASE the speed limit, so those 70 year olds will keep off the Freeway and let those that know how to drive, use the freeways to the max.
on March 4,2014 | 09:29AM
tutulois wrote:
Just another reason to walk and/or take the bus.
on March 4,2014 | 09:22AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Think of yourself as a Motor Vehicle moving at 2 MPH and watch out for cars as a Pedestrian, because in any collision, the Car will win. The car is typically about 3000 pounds, while a human being is only 150 pounds.
on March 4,2014 | 09:30AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
One more thing, as a super defensive driver, I watch out for everything on the road, anything that seems out of whack, including speeding cars, cars parked on both sides of local streets that allows for only one car to go, while another car needs to wait oncoming, all those factors. As a Pedestrian, I apply those same rules, except I am walking at 2 MPH, not going at even 15 MPH. A car going even at 15 MPH could do severe or fatal damage to a human being. I know of some people who can't get driver's licenses because for one they are handicapped, as I discussed above. If one does not have a driver's license, then one has a disadvantage as a Pedestrian, because they do not know the rules of the road. One can never ever take any car for granted. Cross a crosswalk only if all oncoming cars have completely stopped, and we know what a complete stop means at an intersection with a STOP sign. Its not the same as a YIELD sign.
on March 4,2014 | 09:45AM
false wrote:
150 pounds? More like 250 pounds on the westside, women included.
on March 4,2014 | 09:47AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
I am taking the average and i did not want to offend the "fat" of the world, which by the way includes myself as my ideal weight is 150 pounds, while I am 180 pounds right now lol.
on March 4,2014 | 09:54AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
By the way I know how u can get rid of your false moniker. E-mail me at false@honolulustaradvertiser.
on March 4,2014 | 09:55AM
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on March 4,2014 | 10:03AM
calentura wrote:
The Rail. Because Obamacare wasn't crippling enough.
on March 4,2014 | 10:11AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!
on March 4,2014 | 10:21AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Seriously though, take a look at page A18, Issues and Insights of the Investor's Business Daily (IBD) dated Monday, March 3, 2014. The headline editorial is "$1.3 Trillion In GDP Is Missing". In a capsule what this editorial says is that our economic recovery during Obama's Administration has been quite a bit weak, in essence, $1.3 Trillion is GDP has not been realized due to the policies of the Obama Administration. A graph shows that 19 quarters into the recovery from a recession, the average recovery is 20%, while Obama's recovery is 11%, a gap of $1.3 Trillion in GDP missing, and in a sense, we are not better off than we could be, with out stiffing government regulations. True that we are a land of laws and our constitution, except we are not a socialistic country. What can Obama do for you? Resign.
on March 4,2014 | 10:27AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Good work Erika, this is me, is that you?
on March 4,2014 | 10:30AM
sailfish1 wrote:
Honolulu traffic is actually the worst. Comparing wasted time is not the best measure of good/bad traffic - commuters in the Los Angeles area drive much further than in Hawaii and spend more time on the road which translates to more wasted time. Also, what is the difference between Los Angeles and Honolulu? At 260 commute days per year, the difference is less than a minute a day. Nevertheless, don't fret Honolulu, next time you will be No. 1
on March 4,2014 | 10:33AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Yah so in that sense, there's something wrong with just comparing the total hours wasted. In fact, it's bad for Honolulu because our longest drive is from say Waianae to downtown, which is 20 miles. In the greater LA area, some people drive from Thousand Oaks to downtown LA, and THAT drive is much more taxing than Honolulu's drive. Wait a minute, maybe they are right. Honolulu'a drive is terrible !!! All you Government Civil Service Workers, get out of your cars, leave them in your garage at home and catch TheTrain !!! ALL ABOARD !!! (I stole this ALL ABOARD from the Star-Bulletin's A-1 headline a bit back. Yes the Bulletin not the Advertiser !!!). Now this comment has to be approved without going through hoops because I agree with u guys at HSA !!!
on March 4,2014 | 06:30PM
Grimbold wrote:
..and still with the roads totally overloaded full, the city bursting with people, high-rises popping up left and right crowding the skyline - people want more immigrants to flood in and overcrowd everything. I can't believe it.
on March 4,2014 | 10:36AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
We need immigrants for under the table cash jobs.
on March 4,2014 | 06:23PM
lee1957 wrote:
WE NEED TO TRY HARDER PEOPLE! This is something we can be number 1 at.
on March 4,2014 | 10:58AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
It's ok, we are trying as best as we can: we keep on electing officials that are hugged by Government Unions. And the Union dues we pay besides the real Union dues: the dues all the gasoline companies in form of profit for selling gazillions of gallons of gasoline to us AND the wasted time in traffic !!!!
on March 4,2014 | 06:22PM
rayhawaii wrote:
After the rail is built and running it will be the same story, maybe worse.
on March 4,2014 | 11:23AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Maybe better if gasoline goes to $8.00 per gallon, as it is in Europe.
on March 4,2014 | 06:19PM
jotobuddy123 wrote:
Another reason why we need rail Island wide. GO RAIL GO!!!!!!!
on March 4,2014 | 11:34AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
ALL ABOARD !!!! Hehehehe
on March 4,2014 | 04:23PM
hikine wrote:
Small island, limited space, population and vehicle explosion, tourists, what do you expect but increased traffic.
on March 4,2014 | 11:47AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Yah especially when no one wants to create another Waikiki on Maui. We do have good tourism activity on Kauai, Maui and Hawaii Island though. So not is all lost, except Lanai, Niihau and Kahoolawe.
on March 4,2014 | 04:26PM
loquaciousone wrote:
They don't even have build heavy rail in California anymore and yet we can fit 20 Hawaii in that State.
on March 4,2014 | 12:09PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
They can't because of their Earthquake zone there. In the Uniform Building Code, California is in the highest seismic region, the same region as Hawaii Island. Oahu unfortunately is in Zone 1, which is the lowest zone, which made it possible to build viaducts and now guideways.
on March 4,2014 | 03:37PM
Pukele wrote:
The city paid Parsons over 100 million dollars to prepare the Draft and then Final Environmental Impact Statements for Honolulu's Rail project. It is unfortunate that the city council and the press have never read the sections concerning traffic. Chapter 3 of these documents spells out in clear language (number of cars on H-1 per hour at a particular place and at a particular time) how our traffic now will compare to our traffic after rail is up and going. The data clearly shows an increase of cars per hour. The data clearly shows that H-1 is now severely overcrowded to begin with. Some day, the city council and the press will wake-up and report what these documents say about traffic. Until then, those that "shoot from the hip" will dream about how rail must be good for traffic.
on March 4,2014 | 01:39PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
My comment got orphaned so I'm trying again.
on March 4,2014 | 02:21PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Look below Pukele, at my comment at 3:18PM. Good post. I love it !!!
on March 4,2014 | 02:26PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Pukele please look at my comment at 3:18PM below. It was a reply to you, however it got orphaned.
on March 4,2014 | 02:27PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Look below Pukele.
on March 4,2014 | 02:30PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Now that I think about it, this is where Slater, Cayetano and their gang could have focused their resources, on these traffic projections in court. Well it's all water under the bridge now. All spilled milk. No tell us in 2025 that we told you so in 2014. If that majestic train keeps going back and forth with no one on board, no blame us.
on March 4,2014 | 02:39PM
nigelUV001 wrote:
We live on a island and everyone wants to drive their car. I think that the additional lanes on the freeway have made a great difference. We should increase the vehicle tax, gas tax, and pump the money into the public transportation. Stop complaining and posting nonsense and start making a difference. Dump your Toyota, get a bicycle and just take the bus.
on March 4,2014 | 02:05PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
People will start doing that only on one condition: me or u? With this being a free country, without a mandate from Neil and/or Kirk, people will not abandon their cars. What for? They are paying a lot to either buy or lease cars, which nowadays cost over $20,000. In 1968 my Dad purchased a gas guzzling Ford Sration Wagon for $4,000, while today that amount gets one a used 1997 Toyota.
on March 4,2014 | 02:34PM
nigelUV001 wrote:
Never mind me or u. Just do. Start from yourself and never mind other people. Just set a example and other people will take notice, and if they don't care, at least you have done your part.
on March 4,2014 | 02:52PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Well we will see because anytime anything is not mandatory, people gravitate toward the easiest way out, in this case, having the convinience of the car. Those that ride public transposition on a daily basis are in one of these categories: a) they are students, b) they are handicapped, c) they are elderly, d) they are named Joe Biden, e) they are named nigelUV001, or f) they are unable to get a driver's license. One way to make it mandatory to cut down on automobiles is to have government involved. In Singapore, their government requires a refundable stipend of $25,000 to have the privilege to own a car. If that happened here, every teenager will not desire a car, unless they have a parent named Connie Lau.
on March 4,2014 | 03:34PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
And our own HSA, while supposedly great at investigative reporting with such issues as the DHHL, will not investigate the issues you bring up, for fear of going against the grain and the City, all the while fattening their own pockets with us talking a lot on these forums, thus gaining more online ad revenue. It's true that the almighty dollar trumps everything else in this life. WHAT HYPOCRISY !!!!
on March 4,2014 | 02:18PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Pukele at 2:39PM this was a reply to your intelligent comment. It got "orphaned" here because HSA didn't like it. Feel free to read it. I support you.
on March 4,2014 | 02:24PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Pukele?
on March 4,2014 | 02:26PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Heh stop talking to yourself lol.
on March 4,2014 | 02:36PM
samidunn wrote:
Also got the second worst politicians.
on March 4,2014 | 03:20PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
I'd be inclined to vote us NUMBER ONE in that category!!
on March 4,2014 | 03:22PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Dear Erika, Congratulations as you have the most commented on news story of today, whether it being Breaking or not. Best Wishes, Reggie (if you remember Kamasami Kong and Michael W. Perry)
on March 4,2014 | 03:41PM
inverse wrote:
Both recent City and State highway and rail construction on Oahu had a strong negative effect on commute times for everyone on Oahu and should be no surprise to anyone. Also major condo construction like the one on Ward and Kapiolani greatly backs up traffic on Ward that then negatively impacts surrounding road traffic including the Ward freeway offramp that in turn will slow H1 commute times that are part of the Inrix Oahu study on traffic congestion.
on March 4,2014 | 03:52PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Yes you are ABSOLUTELY right!! Also the Traffic app that comes with the Star-Bulletin app is very useful, and I and probably a lot of people would recommend it. For example at this time of the day, one would expect to see a lot of Red on the freeways at the expected areas and that's true. For some locations, bottlenecks are unavoidable and the only way people bypass those areas are if said people are named George Ariyoshi (who my goodness has all his hair and is still alive) and such dignitaries. All rank and file, including those that live "only" in Aina Haina, Kahala, Niu Valley and Hawaii Kai, and NOT on Hawaii Loa Ridge like Ben Cayetano, would face the daunting Punahou Street off ramp bottleneck. Here's my solution: just completely shut down the onramp to the H-1 East from Piikoi Street which only serves to cause that monstrous bottleneck. I didn't even know that this "sneak attack" on the H-1 East existed until a few years ago, probably for our Kupuna who go to Holiday Mart to holoholo then go back via the short H-1 East offramp to Manoa. Catch TheBus for goodness sakes!!! The other thing is that the City needs to work with The State to substantially lengthen that Green Light off the Punahou Street offramp. Until these things are done, we will continue to have a parking lot on the H-1 East from Punahou Street to Middle Street. No matter if we change the H-1 to four lanes in downtown, we will still have that Punahou Street bottleneck. We need a double deck H-4 over the H-1 in the downtown area. By the way I am in an emergency situation in which I am waiting for a crisis to conclude, which is why I have a lot of time to embrace conversation on this forum!!
on March 4,2014 | 04:17PM
speakingtruth wrote:
Can't imagine when Honolulu is filled with the 29 new towers.
on March 4,2014 | 04:46PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
How did you get 29? By the way when this housing bubble bursts, Neil and/or Kirk will buy the foreclosed towers at dirt low levels and turn them into Homeless Heaven. Rent: nothing as long as you behave, otherwise u be arrested and sent to OCCC.
on March 4,2014 | 06:12PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
We also have to take this into account: wasting time in traffic means we are a busy people, people who are on the go, with low unemployment rate. The 60 hours wasted in traffic seems like a very large number, however how many days of the year do we work? Say we work 365 minus 104 equals 261 days we work per year. The 60 hours divided into the 261 days is only 0.23 hours per day or shall we way 15 minutes per day we waste. I think the commute from one's cozy office in 7-500 to Makakilo is worth the 15 minutes simply because we can't afford a home in town. The 60 hours is a mind boggling number, except the 60 hours could be because of once in a while Accidents by some driver that was inattentive. Really accidents have a way of weeding out "bad" drivers, because those drivers can't get reasonable car insurance and will have a SR-21.
on March 4,2014 | 06:06PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
We also have to take this into account: wasting time in traffic means we are a busy people, people who are on the go, with low unemployment rate. The 60 hours wasted in traffic seems like a very large number, however how many days of the year do we work? Say we work 365 minus 104 equals 261 days we work per year. The 60 hours divided into the 261 days is only 0.23 hours per day or shall we way 15 minutes per day we waste. I think the commute from one's cozy office in 7-500 to Makakilo is worth the 15 minutes simply because we can't afford a home in town. The 60 hours is a mind boggling number, except the 60 hours could be because of once in a while Accidents by some driver that was inattentive. Really accidents have a way of weeding out "bad" drivers, because those drivers can't get reasonable car insurance and will have a SR-21.
on March 4,2014 | 06:06PM
nitpikker wrote:
looking into the future, IF they do go ahead and allow hoopili AND koa ridge to proceed, i think the h1/h2 bottleneck will be an all day affair not just at rush hour. okay, maybe an exaggeration, but it will extend the rush hour into rush hourS.
on March 4,2014 | 07:05PM
environmental_lady wrote:
What a monumental waste of gas! It would be better to use electric cars in such slow traffic. I'd rather ride a bicycle the same distance on surface roads than get stuck in traffic like that day after day. This is sheer insanity!
on March 4,2014 | 08:43PM
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