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Deedy jury completes 2nd full day of deliberations with no verdict

By Star-Advertiser staff

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LAST UPDATED: 02:04 a.m. HST, Aug 21, 2013


The Circuit Court jury in State Department special agent Christopher Deedy’s murder trial has completed its second full day of deliberations without reaching a verdict, court officials said at 4 p.m. Tuesday.

The panel deliberated for about two hours Thursday afternoon after closing arguments and a full day Monday and today. The jury of eight men and four women are scheduled to return Wednesday morning.

Deedy, 29, who was here for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference, is charged with murdering Kollin Elderts, 23, of Kailua, early Nov. 5, 2011 at the McDonald’s Kuhio Avenue restaurant.

The second-degree murder charge carries a mandatory life term with possibility of parole.

The jury does not have the option of returning a conviction on a lesser charge of manslaughter, which carries a maximum 20-year prison term.

The jury sat through 20 days of testimony during a trial spanning five weeks in Circuit Judge Karen Ahn’s courtroom.

Deedy, of Arlington, Va., is accused of firing his Glock 9 mm and fatally shooting the unarmed Elderts without justification. Deedy’s lawyers contend the agent fired in self defense.







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HealthyandHappy wrote:
Judge Ahn and Kaneshiro should be brought up on Federal charges of Judicial and Prosecutorial abuse for not allowing for a manslaughter charge.
on August 20,2013 | 11:36AM
BRock wrote:
Nothing illegal has been done by either person. I cannot figure out whether you are just ignorant or dumb.
on August 20,2013 | 12:11PM
Mypualani wrote:
I think it could be both BRock.
on August 20,2013 | 04:09PM
Mythman wrote:
Part of the multitudes of low information locals......
on August 20,2013 | 05:33PM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
get a grip
on August 20,2013 | 04:54PM
HiNaihe808 wrote:
There are some soles who go around bullying people. I'm not in the jury but I like an officer of law to protect the public and not run away. Elderts had a bad record too.
on August 20,2013 | 06:47PM
Mypualani wrote:
@ HiNaihe808: and there are some Hawaiians who do the same, got a question for you what was Deedy protecting? if he was sober like he said he was he would have been able to tell security and those around him that he was a LEO. he would not have done the things he did to escalate a situation that was dying down and in the end kill a young man. so he had disorderly and DUI on his record, he paid with fines and it looks like he was moving on. Until Deedy got in his face and asked him if he wanted to get shot.
on August 20,2013 | 08:23PM
lokela wrote:
And we voted for these people...
on August 20,2013 | 11:59AM
Mypualani wrote:
Not me.
on August 20,2013 | 09:08PM
LKK56 wrote:
I am glad I was not chosen for this jury. If this jury is like the blogs, this would make a good reality show.
on August 20,2013 | 03:38PM
shshimizu wrote:
So many opinions on this trial. Thank goodness the only one that counts is the juries. People are all over the page on this one.
on August 20,2013 | 03:50PM
Mypualani wrote:
Well it looks like they are doing their due diligence. That or they are all not on the same page about things.
on August 20,2013 | 04:08PM
EducatedLocalBoy wrote:
Mypualani, it looks like the latter is the truth. A quick verdict would have meant that given the evidence in the case, the jury was unanimous for conviction of some sort. I believe that is manslaughter was still on the table that would have been the conviction, given the fact that the defense admitted Deedy killed Elderts and that Deedy broke federal government rules about carrying his government issued gun while off duty.. It looks like the jury is headed for acquittal or a deadlock. By rolling the dice by taking manslaughter off the table, the prosecution may have made the same mistake the prosecutor made in the Casey Anthony case and the killer may get off scott free.
on August 20,2013 | 04:33PM
Mypualani wrote:
IRT Educated, I have a gut feeling you are right.
on August 20,2013 | 04:46PM
Mypualani wrote:
There is a lot for the jury to digest and look at when making the decision to find guilty, not guilty or a hung. it's not always a quick verdict for unanimous on conviction. the Menendez brothers took 4 days to deliberate and find guilty. all I am saying is we don't know and won't know until the jury comes back. I do agree with you on the Manslaughter thing. though I don't think they would come back any faster if it were on the table.
on August 20,2013 | 09:21PM
Mypualani wrote:
Could be they are taking the time to look at all the evidence, in this case and going with the facts.
on August 20,2013 | 04:22PM
gobows wrote:
Gots to be NOT GUILTY. They know Deedy did something bad, but, not murder. The jury's going to have to bite the bullet and say not guilty. When does it become a hung jury?? Anyone know?
on August 20,2013 | 04:29PM
livealoha wrote:
When they agree that they can't all agree. No set time frame.
on August 20,2013 | 04:33PM
Mypualani wrote:
Me I am just hoping that they are going through the evidence/facts of the case and carefully sorting fact from fiction, and come back with a verdict of guilty or not guilty. But I have a feeling it may be hung.
on August 20,2013 | 08:59PM
pcman wrote:
IRT gobows on hung jury. The prosecutor is betting on guilty or hung. If hung, the prosecutor will request another trial for manslaughter. If only one or two jurors prevent a unanimous decision, the judge may ask for them to keep deliberating. The judge is the only one who can declare a hung jury if she feels nothing can convince the last one or two jurors to concede.
on August 20,2013 | 08:43PM
Mypualani wrote:
I cannot even imagine what must be going on in the jury room. The longer the wait the more telling. Still can be anything though. On a personal biased guess I say guilty.
on August 20,2013 | 04:55PM
312guy wrote:
not guilty or murder, it was self defense
on August 20,2013 | 05:27PM
RetiredWorking wrote:
Deedy is REALLY messing his pants now. Ina short time, he will know if he spends years in jail, (guilty), walks away a free man (acquittal) or gets a "do over" (hung jury). In any case, this guy and his support have been thru a heck of a lot! I can't wait for the exciting conclusion!
on August 20,2013 | 05:39PM
xxNOTxx wrote:
Deedy will definitely mess in his pants when the jury comes back hung, as he along with his family & friend will have to open up their wallets & check books once again for the only real winners, the lawyers, for the 2nd trial.
on August 20,2013 | 05:53PM
EducatedLocalBoy wrote:
xxNOTxx, I hate to say this but Deedy is probably NOT paying for the defense. Most federal agents who carry guns buy special insurance to cover their liability in cases where they are accused of causing injury while wrongfully using their gov't issued weapons. The defense likely put on the "while on fed. duty" defense in order to make sure the insurance company covered the defense costs.
on August 20,2013 | 06:26PM
lee1957 wrote:
If Deedy was acting within the scope of his employment he wouldn't need insurance, he would be represented by the U. S. Attorney.
on August 20,2013 | 06:47PM
xxNOTxx wrote:
That's pretty amazing that an insurance company would cover his trial---but wasn't the gun that was used in this crime his personal and not government issued? I wondered why a lawyer out of Virginia was assisting Hart--maybe that's why.
on August 20,2013 | 06:51PM
xxNOTxx wrote:
"Educated"---you're right, after searching the net there are policies available out there that are applicable, but just like any insurance policy there are limits, depending on your policy. I kind of doubt that his policy has covered the entire cost of all his legal fees to date. Top lawyers charge per hour, but they even break it down to every 15 mins--nothing is free, not even a 5 minute phone conversation.
on August 20,2013 | 07:37PM
Mypualani wrote:
No in this case he is paying. As for his special insurance there is none. The only insurance that will cover his defense is his home owners insurance for the civil lawsuit this guy is facing. Guilty or not guilty he will face civil for the death of Kollin Elderts. His family and friends are helping him. The Feds are not helping him in anyway, they are putting distance between themselves and Deedy.that is why he had to get a website set up.look I wish this guy no ill will, but he broke some laws and took someone's life, when this first happened he thought he was in the clear because of his job status. Number one he was on call not duty, he broke policy to which some will say was not illegal so it must be okay to drink and carry.
on August 20,2013 | 07:39PM
Mypualani wrote:
You are right again Educated. but it's not his special insurance co that has been helping Deedy. it's his friends and family oh and a supportive website. His family have mortgaged their home(s) and have done fund raisers. Deedy's home owners insurance will pay for his defense for the civil suit he faces after this trial. The preponderance of evidence is very different from state and federal courts. In one night of bar hopping and craziness this man has managed to really muck up his life and that of others. this is a life lesson that can happen to anyone.
on August 20,2013 | 08:29PM
swagger wrote:
Guilty or hung jury.
on August 20,2013 | 05:50PM
HiNaihe808 wrote:
There are some soles who go around bullying people. I'm not in the jury but I like an officer of law to protect the public and not run away. Elderts had a bad record too.
on August 20,2013 | 06:37PM
Mypualani wrote:
HiNaihe808: you are right I have witnessed such behavior. But this is not about an officer of the law running away, Deedy was told before he got here how we locals not all but some, hate the Feds and H mainlanders. He carried before going out bar hopping. And when he approached Elderts there was no threats.
on August 20,2013 | 07:44PM
Kapaho wrote:
With no option of manslaughter, I thought the jury would already decide not guilty. Maybe they are just stalling so it would look like they are really deliberating. Or there's one or two jurors who are sticking to guilty of murder and not changing their minds. At least the system seems to be working.
on August 20,2013 | 06:55PM
Mypualani wrote:
@Kapoho it could be 1-2 jurors who decided not guilty, I am hoping that they are looking at everything pertaining to this case.
on August 21,2013 | 12:58AM
Wahiawamauka wrote:
I hope a lone juror is sticking to a guilty verdict. Let it be a hung jury and try Deedy for manslaughter.
on August 20,2013 | 07:19PM
Mypualani wrote:
Or it could be one lone juror sticking to not guilty. at this point we don't know. Hey maybe tomorrow there will be a verdict or a hung jury.
on August 20,2013 | 08:32PM
nippy68 wrote:
knowing how incompetent the judicial system is deedy is not guilty... sad....
on August 20,2013 | 07:29PM
2NDC wrote:
Deedy is gonna walk. Here's a brief rundown of the situation. One of the guys was drunk, lolo, high on pot and high on cocaine. The other was "tipsy" (not quite "drunk"), and lolo. The guy who was drunk, lolo, and high on two different substances also has a criminal record. The criminal record has something to do with the man attacking law enforcement officers. Who would have thunk that once Deedy identified himself as a LEO Elderts would simply back off and comply. Elderts got what he had coming. Deedy walks.
on August 20,2013 | 10:47PM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
2NDC how is the weather in Virginia?
on August 20,2013 | 11:07PM
Mypualani wrote:
@2NDC MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT!!!
on August 21,2013 | 01:00AM
GorillaSmith wrote:
How can any sentient being argue for a manslaughter verdict? Why not charge Deedy with running a red light, failng to clean up after a puppy or failing to file taxes? There is no coherent theory of this case in which Deedy's gun accidentally shot the predator Eldetrs. This was either a justified homicide or it wasn't. It is most assuredly not a multiple-choice-for-dummies decision. Arguing "I think it was, eh, something like manslaughter" is, in every sense, like bleating, "I am way too stupid to understand this case."
on August 21,2013 | 12:15AM
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