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White House supports back pay for federal workers

By Jim Kuhnhenn

Associated Press

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LAST UPDATED: 09:59 a.m. HST, Oct 04, 2013


WASHINGTON » The Obama administration says it supports House legislation to give back pay to federal workers furloughed during the current partial government shutdown.

The White House Office of Management and Budget issued a statement commending Congress for moving quickly on the bill, which has bipartisan support.

The White House has opposed other piecemeal efforts by House Republicans to restore money to some functions of government during the partial shutdown. White House officials have said the House should reopen the entire government and not pick agencies and programs over others.

The budget office statement says the back-pay bill, quote, "will not address the serious consequences of the funding lapse, nor will a piecemeal approach to appropriations bills."

In the 1995-96 government shutdowns, furloughed workers were retroactively given full pay.






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Bdpapa wrote:
No, they didn't work. Allow them to use sick or vacation time.
on October 4,2013 | 10:37AM
miyviews wrote:
I am non-essential but an excepted fed worker. So I'm working, including the work my furloughed co-workers would have been performing, and my furloughed co-workers are allowed paid "leave" -- furlough me now! BTW, I disagree with this legislation to give back pay but that's a good idea to allow use of sick or annual leave during furlough.
on October 4,2013 | 11:39AM
pcman wrote:
IRT miy on back pay. I agree, but Obama wanted to shut down the government, because the House and Senate did not want to shut down. All fed employees, essential or non-essential, should be at work, because both Congress and Senate are willing to pass the budget. Anyway, Obama has never had a budget in the past 5 years, so why does he need one now. Oh, for politics.
on October 4,2013 | 12:16PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
I have read your comment twice already, and feel just a little dumber for doing so. Not sure where you subscribed your reasoning, but you may want to revise it.
on October 4,2013 | 02:52PM
lee1957 wrote:
You were excepted to do YOUR job. If you are covering for furloughed workers you should see your boss and then your union rep.
on October 5,2013 | 07:16AM
pcman wrote:
IRT bd on sick or vacation time. That is wrong, The fed employees did not chose this shutdown. If the pres is willing to pay back pay he can easily publish an executive order to have all feds back to work, with the promise of paying them when the budget is passed. What is so hard with that? It was done before by Clinton so there is no need to lie about it. The pres should also tell his parks folks to open up the memorials that are unmanned and ungated under normal times, especially state-run parks on federal lands.
on October 4,2013 | 12:10PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
OMG, I should have skipped over this comment, since your previous made no sense either. *reminder to self* *
on October 4,2013 | 02:54PM
Bdpapa wrote:
No, if you are not working you don't get paid.
on October 4,2013 | 03:05PM
pcman wrote:
IRT Bd on 'no work, no pay.' Read the article again, the last line. Obama can't say 'no.' His doing, his mistake. He is wasting our money. That's the bottom line.
on October 4,2013 | 06:15PM
Hawaiians wrote:
And what if you are depending on that work in order to pay your monthly bills?
on October 4,2013 | 09:36PM
serious wrote:
I blogged this when it first happened, just like the Legislators---"I am not accepting pay until this ends." In other words, I am a politician and will get my $$$ but just want to sound cool. This is nothing more that a paid vacation for Federal workers--happens every time.
on October 4,2013 | 01:36PM
localguy wrote:
Bdpapa - Sorry, it doesn't work that way. When workers were furloughed for days last FY, they were told this was not an option. Not allowed under federal rules. Nice try.
on October 4,2013 | 02:35PM
Bdpapa wrote:
Better than nothing, just thinking!
on October 4,2013 | 03:06PM
serious wrote:
This is different--a shutdown, they get paid for nothing!!!
on October 4,2013 | 03:54PM
pcman wrote:
IRT serious on 'paid for nothing.' Like the others at work despite the shutdown, Obama could have directed all federal employees to work with the promise of back pay. It has been done before, so there was no reason for the shutdown. Big mistake, but Obama could care less how he spends our money.
on October 4,2013 | 06:20PM
RichardCory wrote:
I wasn't aware the Alpha-and-Omega Lord Obama had the authority to command people to work without pay. Maybe I should brush up on my civics lessons and figure out how the different branches of the federal government operate. Or I guess I could just take your word for it, since I guess the U.S. is now an authoritarian dictatorship ruled by an all-powerful president who answers to nobody else.
on October 4,2013 | 09:22PM
serious wrote:
Bdpapa, you are correct, except that this has been a Socialist country for five years now!!
on October 5,2013 | 07:52AM
nodaddynotthebelt wrote:
Yes, they did not work but they are not responsible for the fact that they are not working. They still have bills to pay like everyone else. Many have families that need to be taken care of. I don't think that they should be punished for the actions of a rogue Congressman who decided to hold the budget hostage because he and his cronies do not believe in law that passed the House and Senate and passed the Supreme Court.
on October 4,2013 | 11:03AM
sayer wrote:
I agree - this is not a vacation for them.
on October 4,2013 | 11:06AM
cojef wrote:
Back pay being used as hostage for the failure to pass a comphrensiv budget bill as opposed a piece-meal selected bills being presented by the House and not considered by the Senate.
on October 4,2013 | 11:46AM
AhiPoke wrote:
You may agree with paying these workers but, by definition, this is a vacation.
on October 4,2013 | 11:56AM
pcman wrote:
IRT Ahi on vacation. This was an Obama-directed vacation. Not voluntary by the federal employees. The one who is at fault should pay. That's Obama.
on October 4,2013 | 12:18PM
RichardCory wrote:
Nice try, Republic sockpuppet.
on October 4,2013 | 09:23PM
Skyler wrote:
And for some, a real problem. I mean, who takes a vacation - unplanned - skips their mortgage, electricity, car, etc. payments? "Vacation," my tail.
on October 4,2013 | 12:36PM
serious wrote:
Federal workers don't work on the cheap---look at their pay scales vs private employment!!
on October 5,2013 | 04:00AM
lee1957 wrote:
Yes, take a look at the pay vs. journey level trades on the outside. The feds are a bargain.
on October 5,2013 | 07:32AM
false wrote:
Hey, all my non-essential Federal friends are out on the golf course. They don't seem concerned since they'll get paid regardless. What a great country.
on October 4,2013 | 04:00PM
localguy wrote:
Not to pop your bubble but the majority of federal workers would gladly show up for work with no pay, the idea they would be paid later. They do not like the games our dysfunctional congress and senate are playing, hurting the average american. They had an entire year to get it done and failed. Same as last year. Why do we keep re electing them?
on October 4,2013 | 11:02PM
AhiPoke wrote:
"Punished"??? They can use their paid leave benefits. Yes, they didn't cause this to happen but they also didn't work. There are many things that can happen to cause people not to go to work that are beyond their control. Should they always be paid? Why should taxpayers be "punished" for something we didn't cause as well? I'm sure this will amount to hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars. I'm also sure that politicians don't have the guts to not pay these people, especially since it doesn't come out of their pockets, but IMO it's still ridiculous.
on October 4,2013 | 11:52AM
medigogo wrote:
You know that when you're put on administrative leave, they'll still need to pay you. It's involuntary. And it's not totally free. You can't leave the area because you may be called back to work at any time.
on October 4,2013 | 04:02PM
lee1957 wrote:
We taxpayers did have a hand in this, we elected the bums.
on October 5,2013 | 07:34AM
Nevadan wrote:
The president is very generous with taxpayers' money ..... as usual.
on October 4,2013 | 12:03PM
lee1957 wrote:
The House voted 407-0, so this is a bipartisan effort.
on October 5,2013 | 07:34AM
Big C wrote:
" to give back pay to federal workers furloughed during the current partial government shutdown." This is a bunch of bull. If they are working NOW, yes, they deserve the pay. No Pay for No Work. They can apply for unemployment. Who will pay for the non-federal employees that are not working due to the government shutdown. Possible solution, have Congress give their pay to the furloughed federal and non federal employee due to the shutdown. This shutdown was coming, everyone (furloughed or not) should have planned for it. Especially with the behavior of Congress.
on October 4,2013 | 01:00PM
thatsmyname wrote:
Yup!!
on October 4,2013 | 01:04PM
localguy wrote:
Big C - You would be advised to do your due diligence before posting. Unemployment for out of work for a few days? Doesn't work that way. Rookie posters...............
on October 4,2013 | 11:04PM
thatsmyname wrote:
I agree if they want retro pay then they should get back to work. If they were working then i do agree that they should get paid. How ever heard of being paid for not working. When a private company sends you home you don't get paid for hours of work that they are not there.
on October 4,2013 | 01:03PM
islandboy1562 wrote:
Yes this shut down is due to a dysfunctional congress (bunch of losers), but being a federal worker has risks - and this is one of them I(furlough), so yes they should not get paid, they didn't work, maybe that's whats wrong with this country, everyone feels entitled to a govt paycheck even if they didn't work. Can you say WELFARE. Get a regular private sector job where you get paid if you work!
on October 4,2013 | 01:38PM
Maipono wrote:
There he goes again, the Campaigner in Chief, pandering to the federal workers who if he cared about, wouldn't use them as pawns in a game he has no idea what he is doing, in a job that is way above his pay grade and totally unqualified for.
on October 4,2013 | 02:40PM
localguy wrote:
Yes, makeup the pay lost by all the federal workers. Then penalize all members of congress and senate, take away about two - four months pay during the next FY. Show them there are consequences for willfully failing to do your job of taking care of the american people and the economy. Let them understand their utter incompetence is not acceptable. One fails they all fail and pay the price. Better yet, change the law so at the end of the FY the budget will automatically become a CR until a budget is approved. Mean time, continue taking their pay for failing to do the job. No more excuses. No more whining. Either do the job you agreed to do or resign so someone else with ethics can get it done. Oh yes, 8 year term limits. No more dynasties.
on October 4,2013 | 02:41PM
roadsterred wrote:
It's good to work for the Federal Government. Unlike private companies which furlough employees without pay, the Federal Government gives furlough with pay. If they're going to get pay, they should go to work.
on October 4,2013 | 03:51PM
hanabatadayz wrote:
no work..no pay..simple as that..the government has no money..if you are working and not getting paid then you should receive back pay..other than that..go collect unemployment if you want to get paid..the federal government workers are the most high paid workers in government that do the least amount of work..so it's like a mini vacation except you don't get paid for not doing any work
on October 4,2013 | 04:40PM
pcman wrote:
IRT hanabata on 'no work, no pay.' The precedent was set before. Read the last line of the article. Obama knows he has to pay, regardless. He should not have called for a shutdown. The House nor the Senate did, just the executive did. His mistake. Our loss of money. No big thing to the pres.
on October 4,2013 | 06:25PM
Mana07 wrote:
"go collect unemployment"...what a M0r0n. You obviously have no idea what the average federal worker earns. If you think it's high pay, you have no clue.
on October 4,2013 | 11:05PM
Anonymous wrote:
If they're going to pay them anyway, send them back to work.
on October 4,2013 | 06:18PM
Hawaiians wrote:
That is a absolutely good point!
on October 4,2013 | 09:38PM
Bumby wrote:
These politicians who are pushing for this have their heads in the sand. Looking only to garner votes. The crux to this is for all to start understanding the simple math of a budget. Don't spend more than you earn and don't keep borrowing and think that is okay. Obama put Illinois in a bad financial boat and he is doing the same with our nation by being the cheerleader to make everyone believe it is okay to keep borrowing and spending. I sometime wonder if this president ever works being he is on the road and the television so often.
on October 4,2013 | 09:22PM
Bumby wrote:
If they had kept numbers who was on the tube the most I guarantee you it is Mr. O.
on October 4,2013 | 09:24PM
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