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13 killed in Washington Navy Yard shooting rampage

By Brett Zonger, Eric Tucker & Lolita C. Baldor

Associated Press

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LAST UPDATED: 04:31 p.m. HST, Sep 16, 2013


WASHINGTON >> A former Navy reservist went on a shooting rampage today inside a building at the heavily secured Washington Navy Yard, firing from a balcony onto office workers in an atrium below, authorities and witnesses said. Thirteen people were killed, including the gunman.

Authorities said they were looking for a possible second attacker who may have been disguised in an olive-drab military-style uniform.

But as the day wore on and night fell, the rampage increasingly appeared to be the work of a lone gunman.

The attack unfolded about 8:20 a.m. in the heart of the nation's capital, less than four miles from the White House and two miles from the Capitol.

Investigators said the motive was a mystery.

Mayor Vincent Gray said there was no indication it was a terrorist attack. But he said the possibility had not been ruled out.

It was the deadliest shooting at a military installation in the U.S. since Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 people and wounded more than 30 in 2009 at Fort Hood in Texas. He was convicted last month and sentenced to death.

President Barack Obama lamented yet another mass shooting in the U.S. that he said took the lives of American "patriots." He promised to make sure "whoever carried out this cowardly act is held responsible."

The FBI took charge of the investigation and identified the gunman killed in the attack as 34-year-old Aaron Alexis of Texas. He died after a running gunbattle inside the building with police, investigators said.

At the time of the rampage, Alexis was working in information technology with a company that was a Defense Department subcontractor.

Authorities said he may have had a badge that enabled him to get onto the base, but they were still investigating.

Alexis was a full-time Navy reservist from 2007 to early 2011, leaving as a petty officer third class, the Navy said. It did not say why he left. He had been an aviation electrician's mate with a unit in Fort Worth, Texas.

Alexis had had run-ins with the law over shooting incidents in 2004 and 2010 in Fort Worth and Seattle and was portrayed in police reports as seething with anger.

Witnesses on Monday described a gunman opening fire from a fourth-floor overlook, aiming down on people on the main floor, which includes a glass-walled cafeteria. Others said a gunman fired at them in a third-floor hallway.

Patricia Ward, a logistics-management specialist, said she was in the cafeteria getting breakfast.

"It was three gunshots straight in a row -- pop, pop, pop. Three seconds later, it was pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, so it was like about a total of seven gunshots, and we just started running," Ward said.

In addition to those killed, more than a dozen people were hurt, including a police officer and two female civilians who were shot and wounded. They were all expected to survive.

Police would not give any details on the gunman's weaponry, but witnesses said the man they saw had a long gun -- which can mean a rifle or a shotgun.

The Washington Navy Yard is a sprawling, 41-acre labyrinth of buildings and streets protected by armed guards and metal detectors, and employees have to show their IDs at doors and gates. More than 18,000 people work there.

The rampage took place at Building 197, the headquarters for Naval Sea Systems Command, which buys, builds and maintains ships and submarines. About 3,000 people work at headquarters, many of them civilians.

Todd Brundidge, an executive assistant with Navy Sea Systems Command, said he and co-workers encountered a gunman in a long hallway on the third floor. The gunman was wearing all blue, he said.

"He just turned and started firing," Brundidge said.

Terrie Durham, an executive assistant with the same agency, said the gunman fired toward her and Brundidge.

"He aimed high and missed," she said. "He said nothing. As soon as I realized he was shooting, we just said, 'Get out of the building.'"

As emergency vehicles and law enforcement officers flooded streets around the complex, a helicopter hovered, nearby schools were locked down and airplanes at nearby Reagan National Airport were grounded so they would not interfere with law-enforcement choppers.

Security was tightened at other federal buildings. Senate officials shut down their side of the Capitol while authorities searched for the potential second attacker. The House remained open.

In the confusion, police said around midday that they were searching for two men who may have taken part in the attack -- one carrying a handgun and wearing a tan Navy-style uniform and a beret, the other armed with a long gun and wearing an olive-green uniform. Police said it was unclear if the men were members of the military.

But later in the day, police said the man in the tan uniform had been identified and was not involved in the shooting.

As tensions eased, Navy Yard employees were gradually being released from the complex, and children were let out of their locked-down schools.

Adm. Jonathan Greenert, chief of naval operations, was at the base at the time the shooting began but was moved unharmed to a nearby military installation.

Anxious relatives and friends of those who work at the complex waited to hear from loved ones.

Tech Sgt. David Reyes, who works at Andrews Air Force Base, said he was waiting to pick up his wife, Dina, who was under lockdown in a building next to where the shooting happened. She sent him a text message.

"They are under lockdown because they just don't know," Reyes said. "They have to check every building in there, and they have to check every room and just, of course, a lot of rooms and a lot of buildings."

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Associated Press writers Jesse Holland, Stacy A. Anderson, Brian Witte and Ben Nuckols in Washington contributed to this report.






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HonoluluHawaii wrote:
This type of event happens like almost every 15 days within the lower 48, while the only known mass shooting in Hawaii's history appears to have been the Xerox Bryan Uyesugi case in 1999. Pent up anger needs to be dissipated otherwise we have a determined person, who 90% of the time is male, is "quiet and NOT effective”, and has no other ways to vent other than to put others in harm's way. So lucky we live Hawaii, and lucky we still have a chance to try Christopher Deedy.
on September 16,2013 | 05:56AM
inverse wrote:
It is not clear whether this was workplace violence, someone with a mental problem or a true terrorist attack like Maj Hassan in Fort Hood. The Deedy case has absolutely nothing to do with any of these type of situations. The Deedy/Elderts case was exceptional that required BOTH Deedy and Elderts to be put together that resulted in the chain of events that lead to Elderts death. In terms of fault that would put 50% with Elderts and 50% with Deedy. Therefore it cannot be murder. The fairest result should be that if Deedy does spend time in prison it should only for a short time, however the most important thing is he needs to be removed from his position as federal agent from the State department that can carry a concealed weapon and find another line of work.
on September 16,2013 | 06:16AM
hanalei395 wrote:
"In terms of fault that would put 50% with Elderts and 50% with Deedy" .......In terms of fault, Deedy approached Elderts, ignoring the pleas from one of his friends (who was also trying to hold him back) to leave the restaurant with them. Instead, Deedy went around her, went up to Elderts ....and KICKED HIM. Thereby, starting a fight that ended with Deedy being a murderer. 100%.
on September 16,2013 | 07:11AM
jayz43 wrote:
Testimony under oath, a forensic pathologist, "Deedy fired the fatal shot while Elderts was on top of the federal agent PUMMELING him."
on September 16,2013 | 07:42AM
hanalei395 wrote:
A Virginia "forensic pathologist" for hire. To the highest bidder. (This same guy could have been hired by the prosecution, to give an opposite, another, "testimony under oath").
on September 16,2013 | 07:56AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Kind of convenient tha Hart got laryngitis just when he had to give the most important speech of his life, namely the closing argument, and of course we are not talking about the Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transit !!!
on September 16,2013 | 08:37AM
hanalei395 wrote:
Was that so-called "forensic pathologist" mentioned in the defense closing argument? I don't think the defense even brought it up.
on September 16,2013 | 08:57AM
ryan02 wrote:
Because Deedy's first shots missed (thus endangering everyone else in McDonalds at the time)! If someone is shooting at me at close range, it would make perfect sense to try to get his gun -- at that point, you have nothing to lose because the guy will keep firing until he gets you.
on September 16,2013 | 08:39AM
Shh wrote:
I agree. Who wouldn't try to get the gun out of the killer's hands if he is shooting at you? You would want him to stop facing the gun at you.
on September 16,2013 | 10:39AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
DD federal officer drunk and packing off duty kills unarmed man. Southern states officers shoots and kills 107 year old man. Two NY bystanders near Times Square shot as officers shoots at unarmed man playing in traffic. Black athlete shot to death by police, after his car crashes and he goes to a home to ask for help. Police officer arrested. Tell me, all these officers are not W.
on September 16,2013 | 06:13PM
Upperkula wrote:
Deedy had no way out but to shoot! He was getting his behind handed to him, he should have stayed in his hotel room that night and minded his own business.
on September 16,2013 | 07:13PM
allie wrote:
manslaughter hon. And yes, both were guilty of drunkenness and typical macho behavior.
on September 16,2013 | 10:04AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
Allie, don't you agree that THIS! is really scary? Not just finding thre separate corpses, but this killer turned 13 people in the same building into dead bodies.
on September 16,2013 | 05:11PM
Grimbold wrote:
Hanalei , I would like to re-enact the situation with you: Throwing you to the ground while you had a gun in hand while you are desperately yelling at me to back off, then jumping on top of you screaming "You have had it" and starting to bash you. Would you not just shoot that moment? I don't know anybody who would not shoot then. It does not matter what happened before.
on September 16,2013 | 11:47AM
hanalei395 wrote:
Grimbold ... go play with yourself.
on September 16,2013 | 12:07PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Another mature response. Dont know what is worse-someone who thinks they know, when in reality they dont. Or, the immature person expressing their view only to find the futility in what they project as the un-truth.
on September 16,2013 | 12:48PM
hanalei395 wrote:
Gonegolfin ....re-enact yourself with Grimbold.
on September 16,2013 | 08:08PM
control wrote:
agree with gonegolfin - sooo mature....Not!
on September 16,2013 | 07:20PM
hanalei395 wrote:
Not a mature response.
on September 16,2013 | 08:06PM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
So you were there hanalei? Maybe you should have told the authorities what happened so we can be done with this whole mess! With your analysis and evidence, this whole fiasco could have been resolved months ago. Either turn yourself in and give the authorities the evidence they need to shelf this case, or admit that you really dont know what went down, and shut your hole as you can only hypothetically surmize.
on September 16,2013 | 12:43PM
hanalei395 wrote:
Hey, dum-dum, I got it all from the court proceedings. It was on the video, and what the prosecutor was saying about the video. It shows Deedy GOING UP TO ELDERTS, AND KICKING HIM. And what the girl friend of Deedy's friend said ON THE STAND....she was trying to hold Deedy back and pleading to him "Let's go !"
on September 16,2013 | 01:04PM
foursun wrote:
eh braddah! in order to "got it all from the court proceedings" you gotta know how to read above the 3rd grade level. And why you call everybody dum-dum? Is it because you think you smart? You nothing but one LOLO trying to act like he know something when he don't even know what side of the toilet paper to use!!
on September 16,2013 | 04:08PM
hanalei395 wrote:
I use toilet paper. You use your hand.
on September 16,2013 | 04:31PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Remember the time that I commented on it, when the details were very sketchy, and it seemed like a Uyesugi like incident. Since then, it looks like this could be another incident like The Boston Marathon planned incident, and with the Syria situation boiling, it could be an incident where if a military installation so near to The White House can be breached, then who knows what's next. Not ALL people from the Middle East are Osama bin Laden type of people joined up with al- Qaida, except that with all the discord between The Middle East and The West (particularly the USA), and with Russia seemingly sympathetic toward Syria, we wonder if all of these hostilities would lead to something much bigger. We just need to go to a meeting room and put all our cards on the table, face up and ask Russia to do the same, otherwise this is the Cold War all over again.
on September 16,2013 | 09:44AM
GONEGOLFIN wrote:
Great transition-went from the story to the Deedy-Elderts story. My only question is, WHY!? need to leave it alone will next June.
on September 16,2013 | 12:39PM
Upperkula wrote:
Well said!
on September 16,2013 | 07:11PM
ellinaskyrt wrote:
Oh, we're comparing CONUS--48 states, with a population of about 307 million people--to the single state of Hawaii, which has about 1.3 million people when considering crime rates? That's statistically and logically acceptable now?
on September 16,2013 | 07:25AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Yes
on September 16,2013 | 08:35AM
Leewardboy wrote:
There have been other shootings in Hawaii. July 1965 - Pali sniper kills one, wounds six. A guy took a carbine and shot up a bus and maybe several other vehicles. When HPD arrived he shot two officers - killing one.
on September 16,2013 | 08:31AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Ty
on September 16,2013 | 08:40AM
ryan02 wrote:
And more recently, Toby Stangel and his freeway shooting spree.
on September 16,2013 | 08:41AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Lol thanks forgot about that, as one gets older, one remembers things from the distant past than those in recent memory.
on September 16,2013 | 09:47AM
NotNasti wrote:
12 innocent people died as a result of a terrorist act (local and/or foreign). Yet you turn this tragic event around to focus on the Deedy case? Talk about a one-track mind. How about some compassion and sympathy for today's victims?
on September 16,2013 | 09:03AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
u talking about me or u?
on September 16,2013 | 10:20AM
NotNasti wrote:
Funny
on September 16,2013 | 10:41AM
allie wrote:
wow..lousy security measures. And yet another angry Texan who hates his government and has access to any weapon he wants. Scary
on September 16,2013 | 10:03AM
Grimbold wrote:
Now for a change it wasn't a Muslim, but an African American. I wonder what part of Africa he came form? Was he Zulu, or Massai or what ?
on September 16,2013 | 11:39AM
Slow wrote:
Good question, Doktor. Let's get the discussion back to your favorite topic: RACISM!
on September 16,2013 | 03:35PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Hahahaha. Notice it's African American, Asian American, Native American but when you ask the H guy, "I'm American". Lol. So where did the Anglo American come from?
on September 16,2013 | 06:21PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
This story was just in its infancy when I commented on it, being the early bird at 5:56AM HST, in that the Headline initially read: Police responding to shooter at Navy Yard, noting that the story has become the headline of the day nationally. In other words, as Frank deLima would say, "eh no Botha me eh".
on September 16,2013 | 03:00PM
Upperkula wrote:
Well said!
on September 16,2013 | 07:10PM
Slow wrote:
2,000 people worked in the building. If they all had 30 clip semi-automatic pistols this would never have happened. Ad it's Obama's fault too. The Navy Ship Yard, had never had a multiple murder until Obamacare. OK, I've covered two irrelevant (ever always popular) topics. What's left to blab about?
on September 16,2013 | 06:57AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Why wasn't the secret service protecting them, they got nothing important to do.
on September 16,2013 | 08:34AM
ryan02 wrote:
2,000 people are going to start shooting, and you think that there would be LESS people killed? Police officers in New York just shot an armed man and HIT TWO FEMALE BYSTANDERS WHILE DOING IT. And these are highly trained professionals. But you think 2,000 office workers, all scared for their lives, will be able to control their shots better? Unbelievable.
on September 16,2013 | 08:44AM
Slow wrote:
ryan02, you want to infringe on my 2nd amendment rights? I want to know why I can't stand my ground and protect my home with a bazooka! The Constitution doesn't limit weapons. I have come around to believing the patriotic NRA. More handguns sold without background checks means less killing and more peace. Just makes common sense. BANG!!!
on September 16,2013 | 10:48AM
Leinanij wrote:
You paint a concise and accurate picture of why we need background checks and less guns slow. Mahalo!
on September 16,2013 | 11:42AM
Grimbold wrote:
We need not only background checks but testing and periodically retesting of the mental sanity of the gun owner at the gun owner's expense. A welcome side effect would be another screening: Since this would not come cheap it would screen out a lot of poor people. They commit crimes much more frequently than affluent people .
on September 16,2013 | 11:55AM
Slow wrote:
Especially brown-skinned poor people. And have you noticed that they smell differently than us? You with me, Doktor? Got those ovens fired up and ready?
on September 16,2013 | 03:37PM
RetiredWorking wrote:
IRT ryan, I agree 100%.
on September 16,2013 | 05:26PM
thos wrote:
In posting, “this type of event happens…” HonoluluHawaii pretends to knowledge he/she cannot yet have. We do not initially know WHAT type of event has happened. If there were indeed three shooters as suggested by the DC Police Chief, this sounds a lot more like a conspiracy than a hate-inspired, spur of the moment rampage. If it IS a conspiracy there may be many accomplices in addition to those within the confines of the Washington Navy Yard. Among several questions of interest would IMHO be: did shooters smuggle weapons on their person past Yard security personnel or did they pre-position these fire arms? Given the current occupant of the White House’s penchant for keeping the public in the dark when it comes to investigations of these kinds of incidents where American lives are lost - - eg. ‘fast and furious’, Fort Hood, Benghazi, Boston, et al.- - we should lower our expectations of our affirmative action “president” and prepare again to be kept in the dark about this incident still unfolding on federal property
on September 16,2013 | 07:28AM
thos wrote:
In posting, “this type of event happens…” HonoluluHawaii pretends to knowledge he/she cannot yet have. We do not initially know WHAT type of event has happened. If there were indeed three shooters as suggested by the DC Police Chief, this sounds a lot more like a conspiracy than a hate-inspired, spur of the moment rampage. If it IS a conspiracy there may be many accomplices in addition to those within the confines of the Washington Navy Yard. Among several questions of interest would IMHO be: did shooters smuggle weapons on their person past Yard security personnel or did they pre-position these fire arms? Given the current occupant of the White House’s penchant for keeping the public in the dark when it comes to investigations of these kinds of incidents where American lives are lost - - eg. ‘fast and furious’, Fort Hood, Benghazi, Boston, et al.- - we should lower our expectations of our affirmative action “president” and prepare again to be kept in the dark about this incident still unfolding on federal property
on September 16,2013 | 07:30AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
HonoluluHawaii, who dat?
on September 16,2013 | 08:19AM
cojef wrote:
TV coverage very sketchy to determine how many were involved in the shooting, but the hospital reports indicate 2 different type of bullets were recovered from the patients. Also, they reported 3,000 employed at the Navy installation which was established in 1799, making it one of the older buildings in DC. Wonder if, due to the sequester some people were furloughed and that the shooting had anything connected to it???
on September 16,2013 | 07:32AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Nice going CBS who reported that a sniper had been placed on the rooftop to take out the shooter while the scene was still fluid. Killers need all the help they can get from clueless reporters.
on September 16,2013 | 07:39AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
See not only CNN has interns.
on September 16,2013 | 08:22AM
airplane_bridge wrote:
more fodder for the gun grabbers.. another executive order coming?
on September 16,2013 | 07:53AM
serious wrote:
Well, the shooting wasn't bad enough for Obama to cancel a political speech!!
on September 16,2013 | 08:03AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
He Neva know ess why
on September 16,2013 | 08:33AM
Leinanij wrote:
If you gun crazy extremists would just stop shooting people, we gun grabbers wouldn't have any fodder.
on September 16,2013 | 11:48AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Yesterday I was in a McDonald's that was fairly empty except for some pockets of people dining in. There were not many people in line also, and there were four men next to each other that sat in a row, u know like in a bar counter situation? I began to think of Chris, and how it would have been, as those sitting and enjoying their meals, because someone wanted us to continue The Human Race, as they say, how I would have said hello to them. I might have said hey what u guys having man? Thinking of Chris, knowing that he had his weapon, maybe Chris was thinking, well ..... Those guys look like they are having some fun, let me join in on the festivities. So Chris joins in, and Chris being Chris, Chris approaches Kollin from the rear and says "Hey leave 'em alone". Now Kollin having known to have the temper, would have probably thought "this guy, who does he think he is?" Long story short, Kollin wen mah kay en Chris wen get arrested.
on September 16,2013 | 08:15AM
allie wrote:
I am so sorry for those who suffer. May God have mercy on all our souls!
on September 16,2013 | 10:05AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Unfortunately there are a select few who prey on our own species, and those get locked up if found guilty. On a grander scale, War between countries for example is glorified, as we can understand the death of one or a few, while not really mourning the loss of millions, for example in The Great War.
on September 16,2013 | 10:25AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
In all, more than a dozen people were shot, at least half of them fatally." Title of this article says 12 DEAD. So which is it? 12 or 6?
on September 16,2013 | 08:29AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
The situation is fluid as they say on CNN.
on September 16,2013 | 08:41AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
I'm gonna wait for more facts and not read into anything yet.
on September 16,2013 | 08:31AM
MexMe wrote:
I am reading that the shooter was a Buddhist convert and was raised in New York City. I agree. People need to wait until more facts are released.
on September 16,2013 | 10:29PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
I'm going to wait for more FACTS and not read into anything yet.
on September 16,2013 | 08:32AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
I'm going to wait for more FACTS to come out and not read into anything yet.
on September 16,2013 | 08:32AM
Slow wrote:
Good idea, but not SA style. Here we make assumptions, usually racial based on a mug shot. Then we somehow, blame Obama. If you want intelligent comments try the Civil Beat. This a ridiculous cesspool and that's why I just keep coming back.
on September 16,2013 | 10:53AM
Imagen wrote:
Just love that sludge...
on September 16,2013 | 02:08PM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
Seems a little early to be drawing any conclusion. Condolences to the friends and families of the victims, comfort to those who survived but will intuitively be traumatized the events of the day.
on September 16,2013 | 08:34AM
joseph007 wrote:
we should arm every citizen in the US. Children, the blind, crazy and everyone. then this would never happen (believe that???)..... NRA is in GLORIOUS MODE today.
on September 16,2013 | 08:49AM
ryan02 wrote:
Yep, arming everyone only makes things more dangerous. In New York, the police just shot two innocent by-standers while trying to hit an armed man. And those are highly trained professionals.
on September 16,2013 | 08:59AM
serious wrote:
Two women, but if they had been armed?????
on September 16,2013 | 09:34AM
ryan02 wrote:
To the inevitable comments from the NRA nuts, I post this quote from another news source: "Everyone was going down the stairs. They were pushing. They were shoving. People were falling down," he told WJLA. "As we came outside, people were climbing the wall trying to get over the wall to get out. .... It was just crazy." Now imagine if those panicky workers were ALL armed, as the NRA would like. The death toll would be in the hundreds.
on September 16,2013 | 08:53AM
saveparadise wrote:
You want us to believe that they would all be running if they were armed? Why are you so afraid of guns? You run from criminals and probably your own shadow.
on September 16,2013 | 09:29AM
loquaciousone wrote:
In Nam I ran luck hell when I saw somebody with a gun pointed in my direction and I had a gun. Some of them were even on our side. Anybody with any sense would.
on September 16,2013 | 10:24AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
This means u r older than me and thanks for your service to our Nation.
on September 16,2013 | 10:40AM
Leinanij wrote:
Yes, mahalo loquaciousone. We didn't properly thank those brave soldiers who came back from such a pointless war.
on September 16,2013 | 11:55AM
mikethenovice wrote:
Pointless? The politicians made millions of bucks selling their defensive stock holding at the height of the war.
on September 16,2013 | 06:37PM
Anonymous wrote:
Was that you I saw motoring by me? And I thought I was fast.
on September 16,2013 | 02:16PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Hey how fast was I? When I was running I saw the bullets whizzing by my ear going backwards.
on September 16,2013 | 03:19PM
mikethenovice wrote:
I better stay in the right lane so you can pass me, lo...
on September 16,2013 | 06:38PM
Imagen wrote:
Just because you can, does not mean you should. I for one should never be allowed to own and/or carry any weapon(s). I do not play nicely with "those" who for some reason, was absent when the brains were being distributed. I really try, but sometimes I just cannot.
on September 16,2013 | 02:30PM
saveparadise wrote:
Condolences to the families of the victims. Let's make punishment equal to the crime. Law abiding citizens should not have to live in fear. Laws are to protect the innocent not the guilty.
on September 16,2013 | 09:31AM
mikethenovice wrote:
The workplace ID badge is a joke. Small fonts make it hard to see. And no one looks at it anyway.
on September 16,2013 | 10:13AM
Imagen wrote:
Yes... R A I L
on September 16,2013 | 02:31PM
mikethenovice wrote:
When I visit the IRS at the Federal Building, I have to remove my belt and shoes, then get scanned. The employees who work at the Federal Building just by pass the entire scanning process. Can you spell joke?
on September 16,2013 | 10:15AM
IAmSane wrote:
That's pretty much what happens at most places...
on September 16,2013 | 04:30PM
mikethenovice wrote:
That's asking for another incident.
on September 16,2013 | 06:40PM
loquaciousone wrote:
How can he get a concealed weapon's permit with a criminal record?
on September 16,2013 | 10:18AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
Makes you wonder. I guess we will all have to wait until the facts come out to answer your question.
on September 16,2013 | 10:52AM
Leinanij wrote:
Probably one of the loopholes in our loose gun culture, like he bought it at a gun show, or from a friend so he wouldn't have to go through a background check.
on September 16,2013 | 11:56AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Forget the permit,just get the weapon,lol.
on September 16,2013 | 06:27PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Ask the Republicans who are for all Americans to be able to bear arms. I mean all and even the doubtable cases. Sounds like a 51-50. Psyc case.
on September 16,2013 | 06:28PM
Anonymous wrote:
Obama.
on September 16,2013 | 10:28AM
Slow wrote:
Everyone gets a handgun with Obamacare. The guy just LOVES violence.
on September 16,2013 | 10:56AM
mikethenovice wrote:
Obama is the only one that wants a screening of a person's history to be qualified to bear arms.
on September 16,2013 | 06:29PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
That "makes me think it might have been someone who works here," he said. There u go, Uyesugi.
on September 16,2013 | 10:35AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Why?
on September 16,2013 | 10:35AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Mason, the program management analyst for the Navy, said there are multiple levels of security to reach his office. Everyone must show a building ID to get through a main gate, and at the building entrance, everyone must swipe a badge to pass through either a door or gate, depending on the entrance. That "makes me think it might have been someone who works here," he said. So a similarity with Uyesugi emerges.
on September 16,2013 | 10:36AM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Mason, the program management analyst for the Navy, said there are multiple levels of security to reach his office. Everyone must show a building ID to get through a main gate, and at the building entrance, everyone must swipe a badge to pass through either a door or gate, depending on the entrance. That "makes me think it might have been someone who works here," he said. So a similarity with Uyesugi emerges.
on September 16,2013 | 10:36AM
DeltaDag wrote:
IIRC, the Xerox shooter specifically targeted only those seven in his work group he perceived to have bullied him. Today's tragedy appears to involve many random victims.
on September 16,2013 | 06:11PM
false wrote:
CNN published a picture of the killer. His ears look like Obama's.
on September 16,2013 | 11:27AM
HawaiiCheeseBall wrote:
You forgot to point out that the shootings coincide with the re-commencement of construction of the RAIL.
on September 16,2013 | 11:54AM
IAmSane wrote:
Coincidence? I think not. Wake up sheeples!
on September 16,2013 | 04:28PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Do you know something we don't know, HawaiiCheeseBall?
on September 16,2013 | 06:31PM
Grimbold wrote:
Not true, he looks Massai to me.
on September 16,2013 | 11:59AM
salsacoquibx wrote:
Syria??? Dont know why I said that maybe cause everyone is jumping all over the place on this..what does Deedy, Obama, and Rail have to do with this..quote: Scary..u know who you are..lol
on September 16,2013 | 12:17PM
Slow wrote:
Darn, another post blunder without proofreading. The Norwegian murdered 77 people. Our Norwegian could only manage 13.
on September 16,2013 | 04:16PM
Slow wrote:
More likely a well-tanned Norwegian. Like the one who shot prople to death.
on September 16,2013 | 04:15PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Well tanned like in cancer is the next stage?
on September 16,2013 | 06:31PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Ears look like my GR puppy.
on September 16,2013 | 06:30PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
President Barack Obama lamented yet another mass shooting in the U.S. that he said took the lives of American patriots. He promised to make sure "whoever carried out this cowardly act is held responsible." There are many mirrors.
on September 16,2013 | 12:24PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
President Barack Obama lamented yet another mass shooting in the U.S. that he said took the lives of American patriots. He promised to make sure "whoever carried out this cowardly act is held responsible." There are many mirrors.
on September 16,2013 | 12:24PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Same kind and compassionate words that W. Bush said on Sept., 12th, 2001.
on September 16,2013 | 06:33PM
rayhawaii wrote:
He probably didn't get approved for his injuries he claimed for workers compensation or something like that.
on September 16,2013 | 12:52PM
Slow wrote:
uh...yeah. Whatever. Blame Obamacare.
on September 16,2013 | 04:17PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Military vets needs to be treated for PTSD....in fact that would include close to 300,000 soldiers. Wait just get rid of the stress, which is war. This treatment will be in the trillions in decades to come.
on September 16,2013 | 06:35PM
BigOpu wrote:
Dang! Everytime I've refreshed this page, a new total gets posted. Very sad day for America, and those familiy and friends that are directly affected by this.
on September 16,2013 | 04:08PM
First-Responder wrote:
How terrible. I suppose the President will make this shooting also sound like it was the fault of guns. These crimes are the fault of madmen who have guns, not guns with a madmen. We have a mental health crises in this country.
on September 16,2013 | 04:22PM
Slow wrote:
More guns and no background checks is what America has chosen.
on September 16,2013 | 05:56PM
mikethenovice wrote:
The GOP are against a weapons background check. In fact, the GOP dislikes all rules and regulation. It's free for all with them, baby. Anything goes.
on September 16,2013 | 06:34PM
likewise wrote:
I wonder what idiotic, self-agrandizing, attention seeking delusions they will attribute to this monster. Terrorism? Work place difficulties? His mom didn't hug him enough and he was bullied in junior high. Eczema? Whatever. It's quite a realization that there but for timing, location and the grace of God we go. Be grateful if everyone who left your home this morning to go to work or school returned at the end of the day. Maybe say grace at dinner. Just a thought.
on September 16,2013 | 04:52PM
engineersoldier wrote:
It's clear to me that we need to review the apparent lack of scrutiny over our DOD contractors. These contractors appear to hiring anybody and everybody to fill a billable position, without a thorough scrub of their backgrounds and DOD chooses to look the other way.
on September 16,2013 | 05:08PM
mikethenovice wrote:
It's called lowest bidders.
on September 16,2013 | 06:34PM
false wrote:
Like it or not, I believe pent up anger based on his race was the cause. Prior reports of Alexis' anger management issues and his being disrespected were known. It probably took only a perceived slight to push him over the edge. We live in scary times where guns are easily obtained and are used
on September 16,2013 | 06:30PM
krusha wrote:
Grand Theft Auto game comes to life, right on the eve of their new release...
on September 16,2013 | 08:45PM
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