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Project must take closer look at impact

Analyses incomplete:Cultural properties along the train's route and its "quite serious" impact on a historic park were not fully assessed, a judge says

City claims a victory: The decision following a 2011 lawsuit that challenged the $5.26 billion project is not a fatal blow to the plan, mayor says

By Kevin Dayton

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LAST UPDATED: 08:55 a.m. HST, Nov 02, 2012


A federal judge has concluded there were flaws in some of the environmental and cultural reviews done for the city's $5.26 billion Hono­lulu rail project, and ruled the city must fix those problems by producing a new supplement to the federal environmental impact statement for the project.

Judge A. Wallace Tashima ruled Thursday that the city "failed to complete reasonable efforts to identify" traditional cultural properties along the 20-mile proposed rail line, and ruled the city must now identify those properties.

THE PLAINTIFFS:

» HonoluluTraffic.com
» Cliff Slater
» Benjamin Cayetano
» Walter Heen
» Hawaii's Thousand Friends
» The Small Business Hawaii Entrepreneurial Education Foundation
» Randall W. Roth
» Dr. Michael Uechi
» The Outdoor Circle

THE DEFENDANTS:

» Federal Transit Administration
» FTA Regional Administrator Leslie Rogers
» FTA Administrator Peter M. Rogoff
» U.S. Department of Transportation
» Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
» City and County of Honolulu
» City Department of Transportation Director Wayne Yoshioka

The judge also ruled the city must reconsider the possibility of constructing a tunnel under Beretania Street as an alternative to a portion of the elevated rail line, and that the city must reconsider the impact the rail line will have on Mother Waldron Park in Kakaako.

The park is on the National Register of Historic Places, and Tashima concluded "there is a great deal of evidence that the project's impacts on Mother Waldron Park will be quite serious."

Tashima's ruling also requires the Federal Transit Administration to produce a new supplement to the record of decision for the rail line that incorporates at least some of the additional work the city must now do.

Mayor Peter Carlisle described the ruling as a victory for the city because only three counts remain out of the 57 claims contained in the original federal lawsuit filed in 2011 that challenged the rail project. Carlisle added that "we are confident we can resolve the remaining issues."

"This ruling does not stop the rail project that is so critical to our island's future," Carlisle said. "In fact, the court dismissed the bulk of the plaintiff's accusations and upheld the project's environmental impact statement."

Daniel Grabauskas, executive director of the Hono­lulu Authority for Rapid Transportation, said the rail project "remains on course."

"On all the major issues, we have successfully shown that the project properly conducted the required analyses and environmental studies," Grabauskas said in a written statement. "The ruling underscores the fact that the majority of alternatives were given proper consideration, including BRT, at-grade light rail and managed lanes. We will be carefully examining the ruling to determine what further course of action is needed."

Bus rapid transit, or BRT, and a street-level light rail system are options that are often cited by rail opponents as more desirable alternatives than the planned elevated rail project.

Grabauskas said the court "flatly rejected the vast majority of the plaintiff's claims."

Cliff Slater, a longtime rail opponent who is part of the group that filed the federal lawsuit, said the rail opponents will use Tashima's ruling as the basis for a request for a permanent injunction to stop the rail project at a hearing before Tashima on Dec. 12.

"The city's comments tonight are just nonsense," Slater said after Carlisle's news conference Thursday night. "They'd like to pretend like this is nothing at all, and the judge is having a hearing on a permanent injunction on Dec. 12."

"I don't think they should take that lightly," Slater said. "If they've won everything, then why the hell are we having this hearing?"

Slater said Tashima's ruling requires the city to undertake detailed studies and research on three separate issues: the Beretania Street tunnel, the cultural survey and Mother Waldron Park.

Grabauskas said his reading of the ruling is the city deliberations that ruled out a possible tunnel under Beretania Street tunnel were actually "quite complete," adding, "It just hadn't been completed and placed within the EIS record, and that's something that now we'll have an opportunity to do."

"What we're really talking about here is supplementing some of the work that was included in the record of decision and the environmental impact statement," Grabauskas said. "Some of that work is already ongoing."

For example, Grabauskas said, the traditional cultural properties assessment the city must complete is already in progress, and the city hopes to complete it in the next several months for the downtown area. The cultural properties assessment of the other segments of the rail line from East Kapolei to Middle Street are already complete, he said.

The federal lawsuit challenging the rail project was filed by Slater and others including former Gov. Ben Caye­tano, law professor Randy Roth and former Judge Walter Heen.

Michael Green, an attorney for the plaintiffs who challenged the rail project, said the ruling was "a major victory."

"They're going to go back to the drawing board, and that drawing board is going to cost millions and

millions of dollars," Green said. He said it was "unfair to the people" for the project's supporters to deny this.

Cayetano is also running for Hono­lulu mayor, and has promised to stop the rail project if elected. A spokes­

man for Caye­tano said the former governor and other campaign officials were still studying the ruling and were not ready to comment.

Carlisle said the ruling should not influence the upcoming election.

"We're allowed to move forward because it wasn't stopped, and this isn't the end of rail like Gov. Caye­tano and his lawyer want to tell you. It's not. Therefore, don't let that influence your vote," Carlisle said. "It's politics at the 11th hour, which is not a good thing."

Former City Managing Director Kirk Caldwell, who is running against Caye­tano, said the "very good news" of the ruling is the EIS was done properly, and options such as managed lanes and light rail were properly considered and dismissed.

Caldwell, who supports the rail project, said he plans to address the remaining issues cited by Tashima if he is elected mayor.

This is the second significant legal snag the city has encountered in recent months.

All construction on the rail line was halted in August after the Hawaii Supreme Court ruled the city was required to complete an archaeological survey of the entire 20-mile rail line before construction could begin.

The city had been conducting the survey in sections, and still has not completed that work.

The city estimates the delays that are expected to result from the Supreme Court ruling will cost $64 million to $95 million. The city hopes to complete the archaeological survey in the first part of next year.

Grabauskas said one advantage to the timing of Thursday's ruling is it allows the city to undertake the work that Tashima has ordered at the same time as the city completes the archaeological survey ordered by the state Supreme Court.

"It's going to be done with the greatest speed that we can attach to it," Carlisle said of the work.

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The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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MalamaKaAina wrote:
Another wooden stake into the HART of the Titanic rail fiasco from no where to no where and much more than a blight!
on November 2,2012 | 01:56AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
Peter your History!
on November 2,2012 | 01:57AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
The Titanic rail fiasco is DEAD!
on November 2,2012 | 01:58AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
In Ben We Trust!
on November 2,2012 | 01:59AM
what wrote:
Unbelievable. Without all these new problems, Honolulu Rail is already the most overpriced over-sized monstrous transit projects in the world. City leaders are doing a huge disservice to the people of Honolulu by continuing to pursue this misguided project. It is too big and out of control and will bankrupt this city. The leaders need to step back and truly re-consider what they are doing. They like to say it's paid for, but that's bunk. The project is headed for massive cost overruns, and the city has no plans on how to pay the hundred million dollars per year to operate and maintain it after it's built. They will have to double property taxes. It's not worth it.
on November 2,2012 | 02:01AM
rsgea wrote:
BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!

Three direct hits to the hull, and they're calling it a "Victory"?


on November 2,2012 | 02:27AM
rsgea wrote:
Deep six

D Rail

D sooner

D better.


on November 2,2012 | 02:34AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail has been thought out over four decades. We now have a viable configuration that the public voted for, the City Council approved and the Federal Transit Administration concurred with. We cannot let the project fail on technicalities. We have to look at the big picture that rail transit is beneficial for our community in providing a better transportation alternative to being stuck in congested traffic and providing a boost to our economy with more development and jobs. Mr. Grabauskas is being very transparent in telling us what rail construction activities are being done. He was brought is to give us expertise so we can build the best world class rail system that we can get and accomplish it efficiently and cost-effectively. We are only hindering his progress with all these delays. We cannot let a strong vocal opposition minority keep bringing up new issues to detract from the rail project. If we stop rail now and accept the status quo, we are not losing only the cost of the several rail columns built. We are wasting all the time and efforts of many people over four decades and we are jeopardizing the future of our children and grandchildren. We need to build the rail system as we have come this far. Instead of opposition, let us all unite and get rail built “the right way” if people think this is not the case. Rail will get built because the majority still wants it. We can do it the right way if everybody is positive.
on November 2,2012 | 03:34AM
OldDiver wrote:
What can we properly conclude here. 1. The Judge ruled nearly every count had no merit. 2. The cultural site count is already being worked on and will be completed early next year. 3. The Beretania tunnel will be prohibitively expensive and dismissed as an option. 4. The park in question is little used and will accommodated for. This is a clear victory for the pro-rail side. Trying to spin it any other is the effort of a delusional campaign.
on November 2,2012 | 06:25AM
Kuniarr wrote:
The problem with your logic is that in this 21st century, there is no more need for Rail in Honolulu because Traffic Relief on the H1 is easily accomplished by adopting what many State Department of Transportation of the US have already been using to bring Traffic Relief on State and Inter-State Highways.

Such as Congestion Relief on H-26 in Portland, Oregon; I-4 in Orlando, Florida; on I-285 in Atlanta, Georgia, etc.
on November 2,2012 | 06:33AM
wondermn1 wrote:
RUSTY THE RAIL IS NOW ON ITS WAY TO THE RUSTING RAIL GRAVEYARD. I know we will hear cries from wiliki, ukuleleboo, BlueBro, Old Dribble and others who have their hands in the money pot. All It takes is one homerun to stop this monster CHOO CHOO and it looks to me like it is 3 (three) homeruns that have been hit. Vote for Ben Cayetano to save Honolulu from the Lies that started the RAIL.
on November 2,2012 | 07:24AM
OldDiver wrote:
wonder, The court threw egg on Ben Cayetano's face. On Tuesday the voters will move the rail project forward allowing Ben to retire in frustrated anger.
on November 2,2012 | 08:31AM
mainland_refugee wrote:
A tunnel under Beretania... the costs are gonna be waaaaaaaay over the projected costs of the $5.1B! Time to STOP pushing the rail project and find some other alternative. And take a look at NY these days... if there is a tunnel for this rail here and we get that tsunami or hurricane and it floods, what then????
on November 2,2012 | 05:11AM
Ronin006 wrote:
Right, and IF it snows in the Ko'olau Mountains and IF the three passes are closed because of snow, there would be no problem with traffic between both sides IF there were tunnels running through the mountains near the base.
on November 2,2012 | 07:51AM
allie wrote:
told ya
on November 2,2012 | 01:57PM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
That's the problem--they are spending money they do not have. It WILL get worse if rail goes forward, because the majority of the money to fund operations and maintenance will NOT come from the fare box of either the bus or rail. It will come from highly increased property taxes, car registration fees, etc. I don't know about others, but with absolutely no raises to account for inflation and with two in the household still being furloughed, this is absoultely ridiculous.
on November 2,2012 | 06:02AM
Imagen wrote:
I just renewed my vehicle registration for my '94 Toyota Camry; $293.70! For a "blank-ing" Camry!!! All so the power brokers can ride Uncle Dan's trolley cars from Disney to ??? Blank-ing ridiculous!!!
on November 2,2012 | 11:10AM
KeithHaugen wrote:
We don't want it, won't use it, it won't solve any of our problems, and WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. Vote for Cayetano.
on November 2,2012 | 06:59AM
allie wrote:
we all are
on November 2,2012 | 01:57PM
Shh wrote:
They don't care if the city goes bankrupt. They don't care because the taxpayers will be the ones that will have to pay in the end. They obviously can't see how much Hawaii is going to suffer because of this project. I feel sorry for the people who live here.
on November 2,2012 | 09:27AM
Grimbold wrote:
Reinforced elevated conrete structures have a limited life , because the rebars cause cracking when they rust . The the whole darn thing has to be torn down and rebuilt.
on November 2,2012 | 11:34AM
CnDnM wrote:
That is possibly one of the most uninformed comments I have seen on this subject. And if you truly believe that, I suggest you stay off of H1
on November 2,2012 | 07:23PM
allie wrote:
yup
on November 2,2012 | 01:56PM
Tanabe wrote:
Sad MalamaKaAina. You must have no life. You're always the first person to reply to any article about Rail and with always the same comment. Even sadder is you have to reply to your own message 3 times..
on November 2,2012 | 04:13PM
rsgea wrote:
Tanabe, you must be pro-railer. I appreciate MalamaKaAina's comments.

Why don't you direct your comments about "having no life" to UkuleleBlues. That guy really has no life. All he does is cuts-and-pastes the same comments over and over again.

Have a good weekend, Tanabe. You guys need it after that devastating blow Rail got from Judge Tashima.
on November 2,2012 | 04:25PM
Tanabe wrote:
I'm pro rail, but not as currently designed. Any rail plan that doesn't have UH or the airport in it is a waste of time. I'm just Anti-Cayetano. He was horrible as Governor and yet you people keep falling for his fake promises.
on November 2,2012 | 06:21PM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
"Life is Good"
on November 2,2012 | 04:36PM
sjean wrote:
Does anyone care what Carlisle has to say about anything?
on November 2,2012 | 08:09AM
false wrote:
Not really......well no.
on November 2,2012 | 04:01PM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Peter thinks all is well and he can go ahead with the purchase of land from his "pay for play" friends where he started building his "Mona Lisa" stonehenge, so they won't have to sue the City for building his monument on private land.
on November 2,2012 | 06:58AM
Workingrl wrote:
Wow, these trolls must not sleep -- staying up all night to get first digs in. Pathetic.
on November 2,2012 | 07:46AM
Anonymous wrote:
LOL, right? Malama always has to be first with his infamous "another stake in the HART" nonsense.
on November 2,2012 | 08:15AM
Kuniarr wrote:
How do you know they don't work a 5 pm-1 am shift or the afternoon shift?
on November 2,2012 | 08:50PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Yeah KuNO, the 5-1 am ,anti rail blogging troll shift. You come on before.
on November 3,2012 | 12:15AM
Mediocrates wrote:
...another vindication of the project you mean! 57 fallacious accounts and only 3 tiny things stick, 1 of which we already knew about and is already being fixed regarding cultural sites. your desperations stinks to high heaven.
on November 2,2012 | 07:46AM
Kalli wrote:
would somebody please tell Peter that the rail project has been stopped all ready.
on November 2,2012 | 12:29PM
allie wrote:
Sad thing is that all of this should have been done by Mufi before he rushed the project through. He was totally dishonest and has cost the tax payer millions.
on November 2,2012 | 01:56PM
rsgea wrote:
Yes, allie. It was Mufi who started that mind-set of "FULL SPEED AHEAD AND DAM*NED THE TORPEDOES" that Mayors Kirk Caldwell and Carlisle continued. Now that 3 of those torpedoes that they chose to ignore has hit them, they're facing more delays and expense. If they have to redo the EIS, and get the FTA to have to review and approve, it'll be a longer delay that the iwi survey delay.... probably over a year.
on November 2,2012 | 04:35PM
what wrote:
Unbelievable. Without all these new problems, Honolulu Rail is already the most overpriced over-sized monstrous transit projects in the world. City leaders are doing a huge dis-service to the people of Honolulu by continuing to pursue this misguided project. It is too big and out of control and will bankrupt this city. The leaders need to step back and truly re-consider what they are doing. They like to say it's paid for, but that's bunk. The project is headed for massive cost over-runs, and the city has no plans on how to pay the hundred million dollars per year to operate and maintain it after it's built. They will have to double property taxes. It's not worth it.
on November 2,2012 | 01:59AM
rsgea wrote:
No more waiting.... RAIL IS A DISASTER ALREADY HAPPENING!
on November 2,2012 | 02:39AM
rsgea wrote:
Pull the plug already.

VOTE FOR BEN CAYETANO

He'll get the job done.
on November 2,2012 | 02:42AM
rsgea wrote:
IN BEN WE TRUST

ELECT HIM MAYOR WE MUST


on November 2,2012 | 02:44AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Not Ben, he lost the democratic seat to a republican girl, because he was inept in Ben you Rust!
on November 3,2012 | 12:14AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Rsgea you are a disaster. Rail is going to happen.
on November 3,2012 | 12:16AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
Ukuleleblue - the rail is dead - collect your funds from PRP and move on. You will have to go to the unemployment office and look for a new job blogging false facts for some other special interest group!
on November 2,2012 | 05:02AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
The judge ruled that BRT is not a viable alternative to the rail project. So much for Ben's not so FAST Plan.
on November 2,2012 | 05:04AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
BluesBreaker another paid pro rail troll that does not live in Hawaii, does not pay Hawaii taxes, and does not vote in Hawaii!
on November 2,2012 | 05:45AM
Anonymous wrote:
Do you live in Hawaii, Malama? You seem to post on a mainland schedule…first one to post at 2AM on every single rail story.
on November 2,2012 | 08:16AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
Anonymous...don't hate the player....hate the game!
on November 2,2012 | 04:38PM
false wrote:
What. Then he should shut his mouth.
on November 2,2012 | 04:03PM
KeithHaugen wrote:
I see PRP PAC's "blues" lackeys are still around, still doing the same thing, with total disregard for O`ahu, the people and voters on our Island home.
on November 2,2012 | 07:01AM
kiragirl wrote:
NO! He did not say that BRT is not a viable option. He said that ALL options need not be considered. Don't spin words. In other words, don't lie!
on November 2,2012 | 09:13AM
Imagen wrote:
Why not kiragirl? Lies, deception, corruption are the foundations for Dan's trolley cars. What else to they have?
on November 2,2012 | 11:13AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Ben's F.A.S.T. does the thing that everyone wants - TRAFFIC RELIEF ON H1.

Meaning - NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFIC
(1) during morning and afternoon rush hours -
(2) when one or two lanes of H1 is closed to traffic because of (a) an accident (b)emergency work on H1
(3) a lane is clogged with vehicles trying to exit the H1 on a ramp that is full (4) vehicles merging into the H1 from the H2, or other highways, or ramps.

How will F.A.S.T. do what has been for a long long time IMPOSSIBLE to accomplish?

Adopt the system used by State Department of Transportation of other states of the US to bring Traffic Relief on state and inter-state highways such as H-26, I-4, I-5, I-270, I-285, I-405, etc.
on November 2,2012 | 01:12PM
localguy wrote:
BB - Judges have no competency in comparing transportation systems, judge is bought and paid for by PRP and HART, something we already knew.
on November 3,2012 | 12:00AM
rsgea wrote:
In an interview with KITV, Dr. Panos Prevedouros explained that the lawsuit was about addressing the rail project's flaws and "the court found significant flaws."

The revisions that will need to be made, including costly re-engineering, could mean an end to the project's contingency fund.

No wonder Mayor Carlisle kept nervously glancing up at the moon. He's obviously worried about it falling down into the ocean.... the event he said would have to happen for Rail's contingency funds to be dissipated, thereby necessitating HART to tap into the $450-million line of credit originally set aside for sewer & water-main projects.

AUWE!


on November 2,2012 | 02:59AM
allie wrote:
Mufi is hiding in his basement afraid to go out. He was once the phony man of the people with the bad songs. Now he has been fully exposed for what he always was: a total fraud and tool of the rich
on November 2,2012 | 01:59PM
Bdpapa wrote:
Kicking dogs when there down again?
on November 2,2012 | 03:39PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
You listen to Panos? You understand Greek . Between him and proper Englishman slater, da bug gas no live hea long time, o wat they say?
on November 3,2012 | 12:18AM
Wazdat wrote:
Please get everyone to vote for BEN. If not this city will be DESTROYED for EVER,
on November 2,2012 | 03:22AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
There are a lot of average locals who are struggling to own a house on Oahu. The only areas they can afford are on the west side and they are working two to three jobs to pay the mortgage. Because the affordable housing is far from downtown, they also have to suffer long commutes in congested traffic which diminishes their quality of life. Rail will provide jobs for more locals to own homes and also make the commute easier. Rail will take some cars off the road and people can ride the train if they don’t want to drive. The cost of the rail project has been structured such that our community can afford it. The feds are subsidizing $1.5 billion. Rail and transit oriented development will boost our economy so more people will have work. Why do some people want to deprive locals of having a better life? We are afraid that rich people, especially foreigners will squeeze us out. When housing is unaffordable, only rich people can live here. Rail will help the local people stay here and have a better life in the best place in the world.
on November 2,2012 | 03:36AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
ukuleleblue does not live in Hawaii, does not pay Hawaii taxes, does not vote in Hawaii, and is a paid pro rail troll!
on November 2,2012 | 03:39AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Not paid for comments, just want a better future for average locals.
on November 2,2012 | 06:59AM
wondermn1 wrote:
ukuleleblue= BS
on November 2,2012 | 07:27AM
Dbung wrote:
ukuleleblue, Old Diver and the others out there - thank you for your insight and your comments. I live on the west side and work in town, pay my taxes, support rail (and will ride it), not in a union, normally vote Republican and I believe rail will help. By making these comments I expect to be attacked viciously and told that I don't know right from wrong or that I am uneducated/uninformed. I know many people that want rail, in fact I have not found anyone that doesn't want it.
on November 2,2012 | 08:18AM
Imagen wrote:
Freedom of speech and choices. That is what our military is fighting for us to enjoy. Like you, I live on the west side, commute to AMC every day, BUT, I do not support rail. I will support a viable option that is NOT riddled with corruption and deception. I will not agree to a project that benefits the few and the expense of the whole. I will not ride it, but I do appreciate that you and your "many others" will because that will allow me a smoother sail into town. $300 to register a Toyota Camry here in Hawaii is ridiculous, but that is only the beginning of many more increases to come. I am very happy for you and respect your choices, as you should respect mine.
on November 2,2012 | 11:21AM
CnDnM wrote:
Imagen, those car registration fees are used to restore and maintain the roads that you drive on. Theyre not used to pay for the rail.
on November 2,2012 | 07:24PM
false wrote:
No, you will not ride it because there will be nothing to ride.
on November 2,2012 | 04:17PM
Shh wrote:
Don't speak for the average locals because you are not one. If you were you would already know that this whole project will do the opposite and we know you are just looking out for yourself and all of those that are in on this scam of a project.
on November 2,2012 | 09:31AM
sjean wrote:
Uku, What about the future of exceptional locals? Or do yo believe there aren't any?
on November 2,2012 | 10:15AM
false wrote:
LOL
on November 2,2012 | 04:16PM
allie wrote:
uku is a paid blogger
on November 2,2012 | 01:59PM
Bdpapa wrote:
And you?
on November 2,2012 | 03:39PM
cunfuzd4 wrote:
papa - NOBODY would be fool enough to pay Albert/Alfred/Allie aka DUDE PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL. If IT wanted to make a difference, IT could have volunteered services as a writer and researcher. THAT WOULD HAVE TORPEDOED MUFI's campaign
on November 2,2012 | 04:46PM
cunfuzd4 wrote:
as long as IT volunteered for MUFI's campaign.
on November 2,2012 | 04:48PM
Nevadan wrote:
...and long winded.
on November 2,2012 | 03:57PM
localguy wrote:
Wrong, uku is not smart enough to be a paid blogger, actually is grabby boy.
on November 3,2012 | 12:02AM
false wrote:
LOL
on November 2,2012 | 04:15PM
LittleEarl_01 wrote:
See you're still at it, ukuleleblue. I'm surprised they're keeping you on the payroll.
on November 2,2012 | 04:02AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
I cant believe you are still at it - Hey PRP its over and Hawaii is about to start a new beginning! Heads will roll after all the sorting out is done and all the criminal investgations are completed. RAIL IS DEAD!
on November 2,2012 | 05:00AM
Kalli wrote:
So you are going to force us "locals" who live in ewa beach and Kapolei to ride a cattle car to downtown? Why are you such an elitist. We want to drive our cars just like the rich, white people in Kailua and Hawaii Kai. Fix our roads, fix the bottle neck on H1/H2 choke point, build a world class UH West Oahu campus.
on November 2,2012 | 05:43AM
Shh wrote:
Exactly! They think that the people who live on the west side will be using this so called rail and it would help with our traffic problems. They are crazy! They can't make the western side of the island ride rail. Majority of the people that live on the west side would like to drive their own cars. They are going to regret they even built rail once they realize we warned them that no one will ride it!
on November 2,2012 | 09:35AM
Imagen wrote:
YES Kalli!!!
on November 2,2012 | 11:22AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
why is this paid blogger allowed and given special treatment by the newspaper to spread these lies for PRP?
on November 2,2012 | 06:44AM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Do you think that building a train that will be a financial burden on everyone on the Island is going to make it easier for them to buy a $700,000 home? Think again.
on November 2,2012 | 07:02AM
AmbienDaze wrote:
uku, if you want me to ready your posts, can you make it easier to read by breaking your big block of words into two line paragraphs as others do? otherwise don’t even bother posting, cuz i ain’t reading it.
on November 2,2012 | 08:09AM
sjean wrote:
uku, The irony of your comment is disturbing. This entire project was created to benefit the rich, both here and abroad!
on November 2,2012 | 08:14AM
kahuku01 wrote:
Uku: We've read this same ole boring past-up over and over. What affordable housing are you talking about especially when you claim that the only areas the average locals can afford a house are on the west side and they are working two to three jobs to pay the mortgage. Homes are not considered affordable when people have to work two to three jobs to pay the mortgage and rail will not be the answer for locals to own homes. You're talking bubbles and trying to justify rail by talking about other subjects instead of sticking to the primary objective for building the rail system. Have you forgotten HART's main reason for building the rail system? Let's face reality, housing is unaffordable right now and the average locals are able to purchase homes working two to three jobs and it's not only the rich that will be able to live here if rail is scraped. The average locals are strong minded and if there's a will, there's always a way, unlike you, who always have to mention the rich and who cares about the rich. Rail ,whether built or not will not be the cause to help local people stay here because they're already established for generations. I say to you, Rail R.I.P.
on November 2,2012 | 03:03PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Thanks uku. Keep posting so a real voter reads it instead of manic rants by these antis.
on November 3,2012 | 12:19AM
Kuniarr wrote:
This comment of ukuleleblue is an exact copy word for word from his 10/20, 10/25, and 10/26 comments in Letters to the editor.:

http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorialspremium/letterspremium/20121026_Letters_to_the_Editor.html?id=175906101 http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorialspremium/letterspremium/20121025_Letters_to_the_Editor.html?id=175737511 http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorialspremium/letterspremium/20121020_Letters_to_the_Editor.html?id=175047841
on November 2,2012 | 03:26PM
localguy wrote:
ukuleleblue is actually Grabby Boy trying to save his job. Not going to work.
on November 3,2012 | 12:03AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Localsguy grabby his b--ls.
on November 3,2012 | 12:20AM
false wrote:
Blah, Blah, Blah ...nothing new. SOS
on November 2,2012 | 04:15PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Why do you keep repeating the same comment word for word?
on November 2,2012 | 08:46PM
loquaciousone wrote:
If you shoot at someone 57 times only one bullet has to hit it's mark to kill the rail. If you don't believe me, let me shoot 57 bullets at you and prove and find out.
on November 2,2012 | 03:42AM
BluesBreaker wrote:
This is not a criminal case. Judge Tashima's decision held that the project's treatment of burials complied with federal law, and that BRT and managed lanes were properly rejected as reasonable alternatives to rail.

Judge Tashima's ruling on TCP's will likely not lead to an injunction because recent studies show no additional TCPs will be adversely affected by the project. The Court's ruling on the Beretania Tunnel will result in further studies that will show that, like the King Street tunnel, this tunnel is also too costly. Finally, the Mother Waldron Park ruling will result in a further study that will likely find that the project is compatible with rail. In summary, the judge's rulings are minor and will not stop construction.


on November 2,2012 | 05:12AM
bender wrote:
Actually the judge said nothing about burials. It's about known cultural sites. Burials are unknown sites and are handled by SHPD. I think it's premature for anyone to say what the judge will decide on Dec 12.
on November 2,2012 | 05:40AM
loquaciousone wrote:
You're so funny it's sad. Nobody is a winner here. Everyone loses.
on November 2,2012 | 06:51AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
sorry you are absolutely incorrect!
on November 2,2012 | 06:54AM
sjean wrote:
Blues, Quit referring to it as "construction," when it clearly is destruction.
on November 2,2012 | 08:16AM
Shh wrote:
It's interesting to hear you feel that the Judge Tashina's ruling is Minor and will not stop construction when there is still another hearing to take place on Dec 12. It's also funny to watch you pro-rail people pretend as if everything is fine and going on as scheduled. This is not a game! These are people's lives you are playing with and we don't feel that we have to pay for the mistakes they are creating!
on November 2,2012 | 09:43AM
localguy wrote:
BluesBreaker - Judge Tashima is bought and paid for by PRP, HART and Union Bosses, nothing but a puppet.
on November 3,2012 | 12:04AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Now Tashima is bought by PRP? You fools are too funny.
on November 3,2012 | 12:23AM
false wrote:
And that one bullet is between the eyes
on November 2,2012 | 04:19PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
Loq,a gun nut second amendment fool. Propably the person who shot his thigh yesterday in mililani
on November 3,2012 | 12:21AM
LittleEarl_01 wrote:
This is exactly what happens when politicians make too many promises to labor unions and special interest groups. They're willing to bankrupt the city and the taxpayer.
on November 2,2012 | 04:05AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
The rail benefits average locals. Average people will ride the rail and will get jobs from the rail construction. Average locals will benefit the most from an improved economy. Sure some people who have all the expertise in developing the rail will earn lucrative pay. This happens in any industry whether it be civil engineering, high technology, health care or any other. So don’t let sour grapes on some people gaining end up depriving everybody else of something we need. That is called shooting yourself in the foot. Let some smart people make some money while helping us so we can benefit from the rail giving us a better transportation alternative. If we don’t like to see others getting rich, why are we buying iPhones and iPads and using Facebook? Rich people who are already set financially do not like to pay extra taxes for government services they do not need and will not use. Retirement advisors generally consider a net worth of $2 million excluding principal residence as being reasonably set. Lower and middle income average local people and retired people are not in the same boat and should not fall for the “taxes are bad” argument. Taxes provide government services that average people need. We regular locals should see that we are the ones who will need the rail for the benefit of our children and grandchildren. The time to build the rail is now and killing it would be the most foolish thing.
on November 2,2012 | 07:07AM
AmbienDaze wrote:
uku, if you want me to ready your posts, can you make it easier to read by breaking your big block of words into two line paragraphs as others do? otherwise don’t even bother posting, cuz i ain’t reading it.
on November 2,2012 | 08:09AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
ukuleleblue wrote: "The rail benefits average locals."

"Average locals" like the executives at Keiwit, Parsons Brinckeroff, and Ansaldo?

"Average locals" like D R Horton?

"Average locals" like PRP's John White and Mufi Hannemann?

"Average locals" like Kirk Caldwell who had never even ridden a City bus until late in his mayoral campaign and was using a loophole to avoid paying property tax on his multimillion dollar home?
on November 2,2012 | 08:40AM
Kuniarr wrote:
We've read this garbage more than two times already
on November 2,2012 | 08:43PM
loquaciousone wrote:
In the picture, pete looks mad and grabby looks sad...as it should be. Despite the words that comes out of their mouths they know that this is the second to the last nail in the coffin. If Ben gets elected Mayor that will be the final nail and we will have another Superferry on our hands -- only a million times worse.
on November 2,2012 | 04:08AM
wondermn1 wrote:
Both Carlyle and Grabaskas have their hands deep in the money pot of Honolulu tax payers and are afraid world war III has been declared. The feds are not going to fund this RAIL especially with all the Lies that have been told. the know that American should not continue to waste money on Boondoggle projects that do not have meret . Vote Ben cayetano to stop this maddness. Go Ben cayetano Go and Go Tom Berg Go
on November 2,2012 | 07:32AM
enoughisenough wrote:
The city lost on THREE counts, and calls that a victory. It's called "spin." the truth is that this rail project has been a bad idea from the beginning. Vote for Ben!
on November 2,2012 | 04:33AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
you are absolutely correct - its the equivalent to putting a pool into your home after Hurricaine Sandy has trashed your house. Priorities are number one and that would be to fix the crumbling infastructure of the island and look at sensible ways to improve the traffic congestion. Not outdated 19th century steel on steel! Ben Cayetano is the answer!
on November 2,2012 | 06:29AM
rsgea wrote:
Or like the criminal defendant charged with 23 counts of murder by is found guilty on only 3 of the counts and saying: "Well, I won because they found me not guilty on 20 of the counts. That's 20 to 3, so we win.

But this isn't a football game, Mayor. You lost on 3 serious counts. Any one of them could totally sink the Rail project.


on November 2,2012 | 08:31AM
Mythman wrote:
"This is the second significant legal snag the city has encountered in recent months" Washington is in chaos right now due to the election. It's unlikely after the election Washington will be inclined to back a play by the wizard known by the name Dan Inouye in his home kingdom, the magical land of Hawaii, where up is down and down is up and government heals all wounds and solves all problems, using of course, organized labor. Drink a beer, lay on the beach, go fishing, play poker, go to hotel california, it's all good.......
on November 2,2012 | 04:39AM
MakaniKai wrote:
Most excellent post Mythman! Aloha.
on November 2,2012 | 03:48PM
NickJord wrote:
BEN!
on November 2,2012 | 04:52AM
Rapanui00 wrote:
quite interesting that the newspaper is blocking my posts - truth must hurt!
on November 2,2012 | 06:43AM
rsgea wrote:
Don't worry, Rapanui00. "THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL and RAIL WILL FAIL!"
on November 2,2012 | 08:34AM
Silversword wrote:
Why did this reporter allow HART reps to interpret Judge Tashima's rulings re the alternatives analysis for Star-Ad readers? Didn't he have the judge's decision in front of him? So what are the facts of his decision? Since I don't trust HART about anything, why should I trust it to interpret a court ruling? Just asking...
on November 2,2012 | 05:02AM
bumba wrote:
Too much money at stake. The rail pigs will go down swinging. They don't give a rat's behind about Honolulu; all they care about is the money. And when this is over, they're all going to let John White take the fall. Politics and money, in the middle of paradise. Smells like dead fish.
on November 2,2012 | 05:07AM
Bdpapa wrote:
Not another study! This thing been studied to death. Let the election decide our fate!
on November 2,2012 | 05:40AM
Shh wrote:
Elections can be fixed! Don't fool yourself.
on November 2,2012 | 09:47AM
Bdpapa wrote:
If they are, they are. Nothing we can do about it.
on November 2,2012 | 12:32PM
bender wrote:
Now can Carlisle and Grabby say the project will move forward when they've already been told to stop by the Hawaii Supreme Court in the burials lawsuit. They should already be stopped and yesterdays decision only compounds the work that needs to be done before contruction can start up again. Which raises the question about why the contractor is still having people report to work. Doesn't HART understand what stop means.
on November 2,2012 | 05:42AM
dedicatedteacher7 wrote:
What are they working on?
on November 2,2012 | 06:07AM
rsgea wrote:
If they are wise, they'd be working on an EXIT PLAN.

But, instead, they're probably working on a "GRAB AS MUCH AS YOU CAN" plan. Like the little boy who stuffs as many cookies as he can into his mouth when his mother catches him with his hand in the cookie jar just before dinner.


on November 2,2012 | 08:38AM
firewizard wrote:
Rail is the albatross around our necks that the politicians, starting from inouye, want to hang on our necks.
on November 2,2012 | 06:05AM
wondermn1 wrote:
The way for Hawaii tax payers to finally win is to Vote for Ben Cayetano and Tom Berg.
on November 2,2012 | 07:34AM
Kuniarr wrote:
By a two-one margin residents of Leeward identified traffic congestion as their most concern which is why Rail provides Leeward residents an alternative to traffic congestion.

However, the fact of the matter is that the many State Department of Transportation of the US had already found a solution to Traffic Congestion - Variable Speed Limit implemented by modern technology.

Among the many State DOT that brought Traffic Relief on State and Inter-State highways as H-26, I-4, I-5, I-285, I-405, etc. were Florida, Oregon, Georgia, Washington, Missouri, and Seattle among many.

F.A.S.T intends to have not only BRT but also to bring to Honolulu the solution to Traffic Congestion that other State DOTs of the US have already been using.
on November 2,2012 | 06:27AM
DAGR81 wrote:
Carlisle is stupid. He had it all two years ago but let his ego control his decisions.
on November 2,2012 | 06:33AM
Wazdat wrote:
Agree
on November 2,2012 | 07:07AM
mijlive wrote:
let us not forget mufi's valuable contributions to this clusterf###
on November 2,2012 | 07:31AM
soundofreason wrote:
"A federal judge has concluded there were flaws in some of the environmental and cultural reviews done for the city's $5.26 billion Hono­lulu rail project">> The very FIRST issue is that no one ever approved a $5.26 billion rail project. There was one rail project that was mentioned in some vague ballot question, but THAT one was a $3 billion dollar rail.

To refresh your memory, the question put to voters in 2008: “Shall the powers, duties and functions of the city, through its director of transportation services, include establishment of a steel wheel on steel rail transit system?”

Notice what the question wasn’t. To his credit, then-city councilmember Gary Okino wanted the ballot measure to be a more direct, yes-or-no, should we build a rail system question. Instead, what voters got was a lawyerly pretzel of prose in which the only operable verb was “include.” Read it again. The ballot question didn’t ask if rail should be established. At face value, the question, and its majority approval, did nothing but confirm that city transportation projects are a function of city government.

At best, putting such a question on the ballot was a waste of time. Of course, the city has the “power” to build rail. So what? The relevant question—should it build the current proposed project?—was not plainly asked.

Worse, it was a sham. As Honolulu Star-Bulletin reporter Laurie Au noted in 2008, even a “no” vote on that ballot measure, “would have [had] no legal power in stopping the city from continuing to build a mass transit system.”

Something to keep in mind when the city tells you rail was all your idea. reprinted from the HonoluluMagazine written by A. Kam Napier


on November 2,2012 | 06:33AM
loquaciousone wrote:
It was pathetically sad watching Carlisle practically begging for voters to swallow his spin.
on November 2,2012 | 06:49AM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Yes, and he is not very good at it.
on November 2,2012 | 07:03AM
sjean wrote:
I'm wondering how Carlisle can ever return to private law practice, as every potential juror might laugh out loud when asked if they have preconceptions relating to a case he in which he is involved.
on November 2,2012 | 08:21AM
loquaciousone wrote:
I hope the next time I get picked for jury duty, he's one of the attorneys. They would dismiss me just because I wouldn't be able to stop laughing.
on November 2,2012 | 08:27AM
loquaciousone wrote:
In all this WE ALL LOSE. There are no winners just losers and the biggest losers are taxpayers who get stuck with the bill. Greedy corrupt politicians and special interests unions just threw Oahu's taxpayers under the bus. It's the nature of the beast that those in charge are narcissistic and corrupt and have only their personal ambitions and bank accounts in mind.
on November 2,2012 | 07:00AM
Shh wrote:
Very sad. Karma will come back to them.
on November 2,2012 | 09:51AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
Rail is going to be the primary driver of our economy in creating new jobs for our average locals. Our future has to be with rail which will move the most people most efficiently as our population increases. We wasted a lot of time delaying our rail. Now it would be extremely foolish to stop the rail after all the effort to get it built after all these years. We have all the financing in place and structured such that we practically don't realize that the cost is being paid down. How many people notice the extra half percent tax when they buy anything? This portion of the general excise tax is designated for the rail and cannot be used for anything else. This is but a small price to pay as our share of the cost for a transportation infrastructure we need to better our future. Tourists and other non-permanent residents also pay general excise tax helping us pay for the rail. The big prize is the huge $1.55 billion that the federal government will kick in for the rail project which in effect discounts the cost to build. This is money that will be infused into our economy that we never had and with the multiplier effect will boost our gross state product substantially. We will see a much more vibrant economy with more development and more jobs so locals won’t have to move away. The rail will provide a great transportation alternative to getting stuck in clogged traffic anywhere within the narrow congested corridor between Kapolei and the downtown area. Killing the rail project at this point is absolute foolishness as we will lose a multitude of benefits. The federal funding will be lost and the money will go to other states. The collected rail general excise taxes may not be allowed for any other purpose. The rail construction and transit oriented development will provide billions of dollars in economic activity and with the multiplier effect our economy will prosper greatly. The smart thing for us to do is to build our needed rail system and enjoy riding a fast sleek new train with beautiful ocean and mountain views. Rail is the greenest mode of transportation which will help preserve our environment and our natural resources. We will have a world class transportation system while living in the best place in the world. When the rail is built, people will come and ride. The rail will primarily benefit the average middle class local who will ride but everyone will benefit from the improved economy.
on November 2,2012 | 07:05AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Not to worry UK. Soon you can give your fingers a rest. I was going to say brain too but since it's already at rest we should just worry about the blisters on your fingers.
on November 2,2012 | 07:22AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
I think the only finger ukublue uses is the one to press "PASTE."
on November 2,2012 | 08:42AM
AmbienDaze wrote:
uku, if you want me to ready your posts, can you make it easier to read by breaking your big block of words into two line paragraphs as others do? otherwise don’t even bother posting, cuz i ain’t reading it.
on November 2,2012 | 08:09AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Ukuleleblue, you have been posting this same garbage several times already
on November 2,2012 | 10:43PM
McCully wrote:
PRP will try a pad Tashima's wallet before Dec. 12 hearing.
on November 2,2012 | 07:07AM
Shh wrote:
I wouldn't doubt it!
on November 2,2012 | 09:53AM
ukuleleblue wrote:
It’s too bad that rail opponents have to resort to technicalities. We should focus on the merits of the rail project. It is not fair for people who are not directly served by the rail route to deprive the people who have to live far in more affordable Kapolei, Waipahu and other west side communities. The rail helps average locals. Average people will ride the rail and will get jobs from the rail construction and transit oriented development. Average locals will benefit the most from an improved economy. Many people who think they are rich just because they live in the best areas do not like to pay extra taxes for government services they do not need and will not use such as rail. They like the status quo because they have theirs and don’t care about others who are struggling to make it in our high cost of living state. Retirement advisors generally consider a net worth of $2 million excluding principal residence as being reasonably set financially. Lower and middle income average local people and most retired people are not in the same boat and should not fall for the “taxes are bad” argument. Taxes provide government services that average people need. The purpose of the general excise tax Is to fairly spread cost of public services over the entire population so that everyone pays their fair share according to their financial capability. The half percent general excise tax is paying our share of the rail. Even tourists are helping to pay GE tax. The federal government is subsidizing $1.55 billion of the cost. Therefore the cost to provide this needed transportation infrastructure is covered. Rail is a government provided service for the overall benefit of the greater Honolulu area. We regular locals should see that we are the ones who will need the rail for the benefit of our children and grandchildren. The time to build the rail is now and everyone should be supporting it.
on November 2,2012 | 07:09AM
mijlive wrote:
as you stated in a previous post-"four decades to get the right plan"- and this is the result? just be gone already.
on November 2,2012 | 07:35AM
AmbienDaze wrote:
uku, if you want me to ready your posts, can you make it easier to read by breaking your big block of words into two line paragraphs as others do? otherwise don’t even bother posting, cuz i ain’t reading it.
on November 2,2012 | 08:10AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
ukuleleblue wrote: "Many people who think they are rich just because they live in the best areas do not like to pay extra taxes for government services they do not need and will not use such as rail. They like the status quo because they have theirs and don’t care about others who are struggling to make it in our high cost of living state. "

You mean like Kirk Caldwell's property tax exemption where he avoided paying property tax on his multimillion home, while the City under he and Mufi Hannemann were raising property tax assessments and suggesting kapuna take out mortgages to pay for their increased property tax payments?

Because if you are talking about wealthy people like Kirk Caldwell who avoid taxes, doesn't think he should pay his share, and won't ride rail, then we may be in agreement.
on November 2,2012 | 08:49AM
AKULEMAN wrote:
Ukuleleblue - I find your comment wordy with repetitious content; it seems that your comment is like and empty can that makes lots of noise. You can do better if your intention is to convince the bloggers to be on your side; however, based on the other bloggers comments regarding anti-rail, most likely you will not succeed to philosophically changed their views.
on November 2,2012 | 08:55AM
atilter wrote:
GOOD POINT YOU BRING UP UKU - MERITS - THERE ARE NONE!!!
on November 2,2012 | 09:04AM
Kuniarr wrote:
My guess is that you saved all your comments in a file and then simply copy and paste them as you see fit each day.
on November 2,2012 | 10:45PM
ready2go wrote:
I guess that HART will now hire these out of office politicians eh? How sweet it is!
on November 2,2012 | 07:29AM
mililanihi wrote:
Rail is dead-it's obsolete, don't want it, won't use it, can't maintain it, can't afford it, will not reduce traffic. Don't buy into this shibai.
on November 2,2012 | 07:44AM
Mediocrates wrote:
Glad to see reasonable objective judge reject Cayetano's boohooing and grandstanding. Time for the adults on the island to move forward and plan for the realities and challenges we face rather than pretend none of it is really happening. Interesting how the SA didn't even cover the disastrous traffic nightmare on Halloween, but everyone who sat for hours through that from North Shore to Nanakuli thought about how they would rather be riding on rail transit than sitting there wondering if they would make it home in time for their kids and families for that nights festivities.
on November 2,2012 | 07:51AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Your GPS has gone haywire but let me help. Instead of a right turn you should have made a right turn at the light and another right turn by the big mango tree. After passing that mango tree make a left by the papaya tree and that should get you to the right address.
on November 2,2012 | 08:02AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Mediocrates wrote: "everyone who sat for hours through that from North Shore to Nanakuli thought about how they would rather be riding on rail transit than sitting there wondering if they would make it home in time for their kids and families for that nights festivities."

You know the planned rail goes nowhere near the North Shore, right?
on November 2,2012 | 09:51AM
Kuniarr wrote:
Mediocrates - Under F.A.S.T., there would be no more Sitting For Hours in Traffic on the H1.

Without traffic congestion happening on the H1 under F.A.S.T., there also won't even be a need for Rail.

Rail is just an alternative to traffic congestion. Therefore, without traffic congestion rail becomes meaningless. So we would not need rail anymore.
on November 2,2012 | 10:50PM
Kaleo744 wrote:
What? NO RAil? I was looking forward in wasting my hard earned money, shsss!!! now I not going have stress and and have to work my regular hours instead of 3-4 jobs....;damn I was looking in contributing my share to all the rail execs so they can have a vacation home and enjoy all of our money.what I going do know...Im going have to spend quality time with my family now...see what yo guys when start..just because get some some no like rail...auwe!!
on November 2,2012 | 07:58AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
News around town:

Dan Grabauskas was asked if he felt this latest setback was a problem. Dan reportedly said, "A problem? Heck no....my house is only a six month rental. No problem"

Reporters then asked Senator Inouye's office for comment but it was reported he was unavailable because world war 3 had broken out.

Reporters did not approach Mufi Hanneman but he called the news station and reportedly asked for an interview so he could kick start his next election campaign.

Peter Carlisle appeared at Honolulu Hale to give a press conference and reporters asked "Why are you here, Pete? We booted your 'elemu out already."


on November 2,2012 | 08:13AM
gsc wrote:
If Gov BEN loses the City of Honolulu Loses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm proudly voting for Gov BEN and encouraging all my Friends, Family and Everyone I encounter to do the same !!!!!
on November 2,2012 | 08:31AM
palika wrote:
THE JUDGE THREW OUT 20 of the 23 claims against the rail project. So I find it comical for Panos and Ben to cheer the ruling. I liken it to the football team that loses the game, 20 to 3 and crowS about the field goal they made so it wasn't a complete shut out. Talk about some bad spin.......
on November 2,2012 | 08:38AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
palika wrote: "THE JUDGE THREW OUT 20 of the 23 claims against the rail project. So I find it comical for Panos and Ben to cheer the ruling. I liken it to the football team that loses the game, 20 to 3 and crowS about the field goal they made so it wasn't a complete shut out. "

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure you don't decide whether you won a lawsuit the same way you do a football game.

I don't think you you get to subtract the number of claims you lost from the number you won and call it a victory. If you were accused of mugging 23 kapuna, but only found guilty of mugging three, would you consider that a big win too?
on November 2,2012 | 10:01AM
Kaleo744 wrote:
Life will change as we know it after Tuesday.4 things will happen It could get better, it could get worse, or it will remain the same,but we all end up paying no matter the outcome....
on November 2,2012 | 08:50AM
false wrote:
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on November 2,2012 | 08:57AM
inverse wrote:
The worst was parading the hapa daughter in public and the media as "hawaii's child" just trying to make it this world Turns out this 18 yr old was nothing more than a spoiled brat, chip off the block of the parents and two faced about getting involved in a organization to help kids to just say "no" to drugs, all the while taking bong hits and performing a criminal act DIRECTLY related to the father's campaign. And if that was not enough the wife was the chairman of the UH president selection committee that chose Green wood to be president of U H.
on November 2,2012 | 09:53AM
MariaBetty wrote:
Grabauskas, said the rail project "remains on course." I guess he factored the delays that cost us $95M. Caldwell, said this is "very good news" of the ruling the EIS was done properly. I guess section by section was proper. Carlisles said, "It's going to be done with the greatest speed that we can attach to it." Have they not learned it was the speed that caused these wonders of blunders in the first place.
on November 2,2012 | 09:09AM
Shh wrote:
Of course! To Grabauskas and Caldwell everything is going according to plan...they plan to take Hawaii taxpayers money all straight to their banks. The delay just raises their cash in the bank accounts.
on November 2,2012 | 09:58AM
Imagen wrote:
They ALL cannot see past their noses...it's much too high in the air.
on November 2,2012 | 11:43AM
sunnyhi wrote:
Why so angry, Peter? Votes still stinging, eh? For all you politicians out there who preach to kids to follow the law and the rules, suck it up and do the same. Stop dissecting every sentence and building rhetoric around it. Respect the law and the judges who uphold them. Stop the fighting, bickering, and political posturing already. Follow the lead of the judge's ruling and DO THE RIGHT THING instead of the political thing!!! So sick of you guys already. How can you look in the mirror and feel good about yourself. Just because you think its right doesn't mean it is so stop convincing yourself.
on November 2,2012 | 09:17AM
inverse wrote:
If Caldwell becomes mayor, and pushes the rail project no matter what, 1 BILLION of taxpayer dollars, mostly from Hawaii residents, will go outside Hawaii and the United States to Italian company Ansaldo and its parent company Finmeccanica. That is precious money Hawaii residents could have used for services and REAL improvements in Oahu road and highway infrastructure.
on November 2,2012 | 09:46AM
keawe wrote:
... condemning your land for the rail route, finding remains along the route, view corridors, traffic flow, parking, maintenance,security, etc. are not technicalities that are easily solved as some people would think. Maybe the full development of the "2nd city" should be the main focus to alleviate the congestion headed to downtown Honolulu. I am sure that those who work in town,go to the U.H. and shop at Ala Moana Center that live on the Westside would probably agree.
on November 2,2012 | 10:13AM
Imagen wrote:
Both m0r0ns are impaired; seriously! It is totally ludicrous that the Caldwell condones this behavior and actually is the cause of what we are experiencing today in terms of financial catastrophes; he prematurely awarded millions in construction contracts without dotting his "I's" and crossing his "T's". But in the end, it is Carlisle's the arrogance and Grabauskas' total disregard for the laws of this State that really speaks volumes for these idi0ts.
on November 2,2012 | 11:03AM
KelleeMalia wrote:
We really do not need a system of this magnitude. It's not planned out the way it should be and, wel, it's UGLY. However, I'm still not voting for Ben.
on November 2,2012 | 11:58AM
NITRO08 wrote:
ONLY ONE PROBLEM FOR THE ANTI RAIL PEOPLE BEN WILL LOSE ON NOV 6, YOUR CANDIDATE IS NOT GOING TO WIN CAUSE MOST PEOPLE KNOW THE REAL BEN.
on November 2,2012 | 12:01PM
inverse wrote:
M ufi clone wi ll NOT win.
on November 2,2012 | 12:29PM
gsc wrote:
NITRO08, The real BEN, has not lost an election yet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on November 2,2012 | 12:39PM
MACJ wrote:
"It's going to be done with the greatest speed that we can attach to it," Carlisle said of the work. Nice to know. Can Carlisle also attached the greatest speed to fix the uprooted and cracked City-owned sidewalk near my house that I notified the City about . . . ohhh about 2-3 years ago. Residences on their evening walk keep tripping over this thing.
on November 2,2012 | 12:04PM
Paco3185 wrote:
I especially like this concern - the city must reconsider the impact the rail line will have on Mother Waldron Park in Kakaako. You put up a 650 foot condo right next door and no one will even notice the teeny little rail line on the street (they could also build the rail station in the condo similar to what they did in Vancouver). And I imagine Mother Waldron is spinning in her grave given the decrepit condition her park is in. I say if the city is forced to water the grass then rail will mean an improvement for this area.
on November 2,2012 | 12:11PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Here, let me burn ou with some irony.....this is taken - verbatim - from the HCDA website:

Nestled in the heart of Kaka‘ako on a 1.76-acre site bounded by Coral, Halekauwila, Cooke and Pohukaina Streets is a park with a rich historical pedigree. Designed and built in the mid-1930s, the facility bears the moniker of the woman—Margaret Waldron—who is affectionately considered one of Honolulu’s most ardent “friend of the poor”. Waldron was a public school teacher and playground director who gained attention for civilizing the youth gangs of Kaka‘ako through her playground work and transforming them into law abiding citizens. Today, Kaka‘ako’s residents and children from surrounding schools enjoy the multi-purpose play courts and open field of the Mother Waldron legacy.

Got to love it, yeah? I mean, hypocrisy knows no limit when the government gets involved.


on November 2,2012 | 04:47PM
MACJ wrote:
"It's going to be done with the greatest speed that we can attach to it," Carlisle said of the work. Nice to know, but can Carlisle also give the great speed to fix the uprooted and cracked City-owned sidewalk near my house? Been waiting ~2-3 years for the City to do repair it. People on their evening walks stumble over that thing every so often.
on November 2,2012 | 12:13PM
inverse wrote:
Watch out: Someone else brought this up is that in the ballot, there is a plan "B" when Cayetano become mayor. The pro-rail council, except Berg and possibly Kobayashi are trying to pass the measure to allow city council to create special funds WITHOUT approval of the mayor. So Cayetano might not approve current rail fundings, however the other City council like Martin, Harimoto, etc. can create new rail funds out of thin air and CONTINUE to pay blue uku's, HART, contractors, etc. with taxpayer monies even without Cayetano's approval.
on November 2,2012 | 12:25PM
inverse wrote:
Plan B is to attempt to pass the new measure on the current ballot that will allow current cou ncil to create new special funds WITHOUT the new mayor 's(Cay ten o) approval.
on November 2,2012 | 12:28PM
Jonas wrote:
I don't understand why you guys can't keep this civil. Attacking people on their views seems to be your #1 priority. I think there are valid points to both sides of the rail argument, and people should be allowed to express their views without fear of being attacked.
on November 2,2012 | 12:35PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Hey Gang, check out this Civil Beat article about our two faced former mayor who still thinks he's the best candidate for mayor. http://www.civilbeat.com/articles/2012/11/02/17553-carlisle-on-caldwell-no-comment/
on November 2,2012 | 01:08PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Ben's F.A.S.T. will accomplish what everyone wants - TRAFFIC RELIEF ON H1.

Meaning - NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFIC
(1) during morning and afternoon rush hours
(2) when one or two lanes of H1 is closed to traffic because of (a) an accident (b)emergency work on H1
(3) a lane is clogged with vehicles trying to exit the H1 on a ramp that is full (4) vehicles merging into the H1 from the H2, or other highways, or ramps.


Adopt the system used by State Department of Transportation of other states of the US to bring Traffic Relief on state and inter-state highways such as H-26, I-4, I-5, I-270, I-285, I-405, etc.
on November 2,2012 | 01:15PM
Kuniarr wrote:
How will F.A.S.T. do what has been for a long long time IMPOSSIBLE to accomplish?

Adopt the system used by State Department of Transportation of other states of the US to bring Traffic Relief on state and inter-state highways such as H-26, I-4, I-5, I-270, I-285, I-405, etc.
on November 2,2012 | 01:23PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Ben's F.A.S.T. will accomplish what everyone wants - TRAFFIC RELIEF ON H1.

Meaning - NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFIC
(1) during morning and afternoon rush hours
(2) when one or two lanes of H1 is closed to traffic because of (a) an accident (b)emergency work on H1
(3) a lane is clogged with vehicles trying to exit the H1 on a ramp that is full (4) vehicles merging into the H1 from the H2, or other highways, or ramps.

How will F.A.S.T. do what has been for a long long time IMPOSSIBLE to accomplish?

Adopt the system used by State Department of Transportation of other states of the US to bring Traffic Relief on state and inter-state highways such as H-26, I-4, I-5, I-270, I-285, I-405, etc.
on November 2,2012 | 01:19PM
Kuniarr wrote:
Correction: Ben's F.A.S.T. will accomplish what everyone wants - TRAFFIC RELIEF ON H1.

Meaning - NO MORE SITTING FOR HOURS IN TRAFFIC
(1) during morning and afternoon rush hours
(2) when one or two lanes of H1 is closed to traffic because of (a) an accident (b)emergency work on H1
(3) a lane is clogged with vehicles trying to exit the H1 on a ramp that is full (4) vehicles merging into the H1 from the H2, or other highways, or ramps.


Adopt the system used by State Department of Transportation of other states of the US to bring Traffic Relief on state and inter-state highways such as H-26, I-4, I-5, I-270, I-285, I-405, etc.
on November 2,2012 | 01:19PM
Kuniarr wrote:
How and why a paragraph was deleted from my post is strange.
on November 2,2012 | 03:32PM
StifelHNL wrote:
Sequestration will take of this; the project not even funded!
on November 2,2012 | 02:18PM
false wrote:
Oh yes it is. Partially or should I say MAYBE by the fed (1.5B) and the rest from all of us. LOL
on November 2,2012 | 04:23PM
willman wrote:
Peter Carlisle is all washed up. He is arrogant and self serving. He clowns around too much. I regret voting for him the first time. I did not make the same mistake the second time around.
on November 2,2012 | 02:59PM
islandsun wrote:
Carlisle is a criminal, no better than the ciminals he helped put away. Local people should be ashamed of this sellout of our aina.
on November 2,2012 | 04:06PM
false wrote:
not to worry. You have been forgiven.
on November 2,2012 | 04:21PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Quote from Civil Beat article. CB asked Petey who would be the best mayor...

“Who do I think would be the best mayor?” Carlisle asked. “Peter Carlisle. That finishes my comment on that matter.”

Arse. The voters disagree. They also want to know why you are hookin' for Kirk if you cannot even endorse him straight up and proud.


on November 2,2012 | 04:39PM
Watada wrote:
As the city burned and people around him were dying, the Mayor said the NYC marathon must go on because of the economic impact it will have. As the people of the City and County of Honolulu suffer from an incredible tax burden, and classrooms are beyond capacity, the Mayor says work will go on for the "rail to nowhere". Where is the thinking by our supposed leaders! We need someone like Ben Cayetano as Mayor to stop this nonsense and start doing what needs to be done to help all the people of the community.
on November 2,2012 | 06:27PM
niimi wrote:
We gave Mufi et al and Peter Pan and Captain Kirk a chance. Now it is time to shut them all down. Vote for Ben!
on November 2,2012 | 07:12PM
localguy wrote:
Hard to miss Peter and Grabby boy failing to mention their incompetence will result in tens of millions of wasted tax payer's dollars due to their willful failure to do their job. First they failed to follow state law, then this judge slammed them for not doing parts of their job correctly, taking short cuts. Oh, word on the street is pro rail supporters/union bosses, orchestrated these recent accidents on our freeways to encourage more people to vote for rail. Is there nothing to low for these people to do in support of rail and wasting more of our money? Guess not.
on November 2,2012 | 11:59PM
localguy wrote:
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on November 3,2012 | 12:01AM
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