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Buy or get out

Residents who didn't buy their homes are fighting the developer for reasons that transcend economics

By Andrew Gomes

LAST UPDATED: 04:49 p.m. HST, Feb 12, 2014

When the sheriff showed up with a moving van last month to evict Guy and Lynn Eugenio from their home of 43 years it sent shivers through this small North Shore community.

More than 30 families living in the former plantation camp known as Kahuku Village V have been told they may be evicted.

The eviction letters were sent by Continental Pacific LLC, the Florida company that bought the collection of 72 plantation homes in 2006. Continental offered to sell the renters their lots — some with homes and some without — for $150,000, well below the market price.


The former plantation camp, Kahuku Village V, was sold to a Florida developer in 2006 and now is being split between those who support the developer's plans and those opposed.

Sunday: Homeowners vs. renters

Today: Fighting eviction

Tuesday: Deep ties

Those who chose not to buy are being evicted. They blame Continental for pushing them off the land where their families have lived, in some cases, for generations. They point out that Continental stands to double its income on homes if the tenants are evicted and the property is sold at the market price of about $350,000.

"Big company trying to kick out the small people," Lynn Eugenio said.

Continental sees it differently.

The company says it bought the land with no requirement to sell homes to tenants and voluntarily offered residents below-market prices for the property. While it sent eviction notices to 31 families, Continental says it has dropped many of those and is only pursuing nine evictions.

Reynolds Henderson, a Continental principal, said the company is offering lots at bargain prices. "It's a minimum $200,000 in equity," he said, referring to what Kahuku Village V residents would have even if they take out a loan for the full $150,000 purchase price.


The families that opted not to buy see it as more than just an economic issue.

Kahuku Village V, or KV5, is one of the last holdouts of the old plantation system in Hawaii where immigrants — mostly from China, Japan, Portugal and the Philippines — were brought to the islands to work sugar and pineapple fields. The immigrants typically lived in plantation housing provided as part of their compensation and often stayed on as renters when the plantations closed.

KV5, like many plantation camps, grew into a tightknit community that residents are loath to leave and many believe they have earned the right to stay because of their family's decades of labor in the fields.

"This is my roots," said Jeff Compoc, a 64-year-old disabled veteran, who has lived in the village since he was 5 years old and has three siblings buried in one of KV5's two cemeteries. His father came to Hawaii in 1924 to work as a laborer for Kahuku Plantation Co. "The houses was promised to us by Campbell Estate."

Campbell Estate owned the former Kahuku Plantation land until 2006, when Continental bought the property.

Continental's offer to village residents to buy or get out has divided the community. Some see it as a golden chance to own their home at a deeply discounted price and preserve the community while others see it as dismantling their lifestyle and their past.

The dispute between renters and Continental has resulted in close to 80 court hearings, calls for police protection and appeals to government officials.

Some residents believe the $150,000 offer, which includes land lots between 5,400 square feet and 17,500 square feet, is unfair. Others couldn't afford to buy. And some oppose the deal because they feel new homes in the neighborhood marketed to outside buyers will destroy the character of the place.

One argument Continental opponents make is that the developer's $150,000 price doesn't represent the real cost of buying a home in the village. Residents of about 25 homes in a floodway, for example, would need to either move their homes or build new ones. Some homebuyers may have to pay for an archaeological survey to check if ancient Hawaiian burials are present underground.

Buyers of vacant lots also are responsible for installing their own septic tanks, though Continental did install septic tanks serving many existing homes.

The extra expenses, opponents argue, could bring the total cost to $500,000 or $600,000. "You might as well move to Hawaii Kai," said Glen Maghanoy, a KV5 resident battling eviction after turning down Continental's offer.

Henderson, the Continental principal, calls that figure "the most far-fetched thing I've ever heard." Residents could buy a lot for $150,000 and build a new house for far less than $500,000, Henderson suggested.

It may be difficult to understand the determination and rationale of KV5 residents challenging Continental, but their fight appears to be based on very old and strong bonds with the village.

Guy Eugenio's grandmother worked on the plantation, and Guy grew up in the village.

When the sheriff came to evict the Eugenios, Guy's wife, Lynn, became emotional reflecting on the family's connection to the house with a roof that is crumbling at the edges. "I was so scared. I started breaking out crying. We're just trying to live the simple life."

Even though they don't own the title, the Eugenios feel they have a right to the land.

"We own this place," Lynn Eugenio said. "We own this land."


Some of the Eugenios' neighbors who bought their homes believe Continental opponents let their zeal to protect the neighborhood get in the way of preserving as much of the village as possible by purchasing their homes. Or that their mistrust of a mainland developer was too great, or that they have been misled by the attorney they enlisted in the fight.

Those who turned down the offer to buy their homes also may have become used to years of low rent. On average, KV5 families have been paying rent of $650 a month for years.

"It's a really sad situation," said Melissa Camit, a third-generation KV5 resident who bought a home with the help of her father-in-law, Jim Camit, who also bought his residence. The division between buyers and renters has strained friendships and meant some of Melissa's longtime neighbors, whose children play with her children, are facing eviction.

Joshua Primacio, the 32-year-old grandson of longtime Kahuku Plantation union boss Junior Primacio, bought his residence in July and said Continental delivered on Campbell Estate's goal to make homeowners out of KV5 residents.

"I believe we have an opportunity here to achieve something that has long been sought after for over 40 years," he said in a statement provided by Continental last year.

Continental said 15 village residents have bought or are buying their rental homes.

Another roughly 30 residents out of 52 included in a first phase of sales were told in December they must leave.

Eviction notices went to all tenants who rejected Continental's purchase offer made in November 2012. Several others, including some who wanted to buy their homes, received eviction notices for other reasons that included rent delinquencies.

KV5 residents have month-to-month leases with Continental, but these leases and a tenant's occupancy can be terminated without cause or reason.

Some tenants criticize Continental as terminating leases because they can make more money selling empty lots to the general public at market prices.

Selling all 72 home sites for $150,000, the price offered to current residents, would bring in $10.8 million. That compares with $23.7 million for 72 sales at $329,000 — a rough average price for the 32 parcels listed on the market.


Continental said it has tried to be fair, and made the $150,000 purchase offer to all but one tenant, including those being pursued in court for eviction.

Continental also said it stopped eviction proceedings against about 25 residents after the city ruled in March that their homes, which lie in a floodway, don't have to be relocated for as long as the current residents live there or until 2040. The families in those homes can continue renting from Continental.

The city's decision reduced the number of people fighting eviction, though a significant number are still fighting back and are doing so in court with the help of Oahu attorney Tony Locricchio.

Locricchio has gone to great lengths trying to keep KV5 residents from being evicted, challenging the cases in state court with counterclaims and trying to disqualify judges.

In five cases, KV5 residents filed for bankruptcy with Locricchio's help, though even these moves appear to have slowed but not stopped the eviction process.

Locricchio also filed a complaint with the state Real Estate Commission, and has argued to state and county officials that construction work by the developer — including tree removal, infrastructure improvements and efforts to build two model homes — has progressed illegally.

Continental insists all its work is permitted, and government officials have not stopped construction, except in one case where iwi, or human burial remains, were discovered during excavation work to build a model home.

The developer also alleges that its opponents have slashed tires on cars belonging to residents who bought their homes, and cut hydraulic lines and draped dead chickens on construction equipment. In response, police officers were hired to protect Continental's contractor, Hilo-based Johansen Contracting.

Henderson said it's unfortunate what some residents have gone through, however the company needs to complete the project.

"It's been a long road," he said. "There's a lot of emotions. We certainly wanted everyone to buy … but the $150,000 ship sailed a long time ago."

The movers that came with a sheriff to evict the Eugenios on Oct. 11 loaded half their possessions into the van before Locricchio showed up with a letter that claimed the eviction notice was not properly served. The sheriff backed down and the movers returned the Eugenios' furniture to the house.

Lynn and Guy Eugenio were relieved, but they realize the sheriff may be back someday and force them from the only home they've known for four decades.


Eddie Canumay's father came from the Philippines to work at Kahuku Plantation and retired when it closed in 1971.

As a child of a retiree, Canumay was able to move into House No. 355 at KV5 in 1991. His mother and sister live in two other homes within the village.

After developer Continental Pacific bought the village in 2006, Canumay thought his chance to buy the property had finally come. But the company offered him an adjacent lot because his residence was in the path of a planned new road.

Continental offered to front Canumay $20,000 to move his home but would increase his purchase price to $170,000 from $150,000. Canumay rejected the offer and joined about 30 other residents in retaining local attorney Tony Locricchio for help.

"Tony, he's our last resort," Canumay said in May.

Shortly thereafter though, with eviction lawsuit hearings not going well, Canumay settled with Continental and left his home. He is now living with friends.

"It was just dragging out and I wanted to settle and get on with my life," he said. "I'm on a limited income. Continental has millions. They can keep on going."

As part of the settlement, Canumay arranged for his daughter to rent another home at KV5 and received $3,000 that he had put into a home demolition fund long ago.

Canumay's mother, Lourdes, lives in a KV5 home where she may remain for the rest of her life.

The family of Canumay's sister, Geraldine, plans to buy her home at KV5 but has not closed on a purchase.


A home on this lot fell down and was removed last year by its occupant, Robert Trotter, 53, who has perhaps the longest connection to Kahuku Plantation. Trotter is the great-great-grandson of James Campbell, who leased out the land in Kahuku for sugar cane cultivation.

Trotter was a "plantation baby" who grew up in Kahuku Village as the son of the late Fred Trotter, a former Kahuku Plantation manager.

When his old house fell down, Robert Trotter moved into a workshop he had built on the property (shown in photo) because city rules prohibited rebuilding.

As a result, landowner Continental Pacific sent him an eviction notice in part because the city deemed the workshop to be an unpermitted structure. Trotter's wife had also gotten into an argument with a contractor removing a tree and fired a BB gun in the air in an incident that led to her arrest.

Trotter said he has had trespassing charges filed against him, so he said he stays out of KV5. But he wants to return, and believes he should receive the same $150,000 offer as his neighbors. Because Trotter's lot is part of a future phase of development, sales offers have yet to go out.

"My life's in limbo," he said.

--Andrew Gomes, Star-Advertiser

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DiverDave wrote:
"Residents who didn't buy their homes are fighting the developer for reasons that transcend economics". Yah,Stupidity! Here is a developer who has done their best to do what's right, and that wasn't good enough for some of these people. I'll bet a real audit would show people in the non-buyer category are also behind on rent, taxes, etc., as well as on some kind of public assistance. Free, Free, Free is all they understand. All you hear in Hawaii is how big companies "stole" the land back in the day to create plantations, now this company comes along and offers to sell it back to the people that live there now, and that isn't good enough. When they were offered their properties for $150,000 with seller assisted loans they should have jumped at the chance. How dare someone come along and offer them ownership! LOL
on November 4,2013 | 02:04AM
allie wrote:
True..as much flack as the plantations get, everyone wants to return to the great living conditions there. I visited Waipahu Plantation village last weekend and everyone was praising the lifestyle and moaning for the good old plantations days. That said, maybe the Campbell Estate can buy these homes and turn them over to the whining families. It would be humane and these folks are great at receiving handouts.
on November 4,2013 | 05:20AM
Mythman wrote:
Ms Allie: I finally have a diagnosis for your anger: you hate the idea of having to return to the rez where living as a dependent of the state/tribal government is galling to your innate sense of freedom and independence. So you see what Colonialism and Inouyeism did to us and you project this inner dissonance onto something those you are speaking to can relate to, most of them never experienced rez life. Did I nail it? If so you are well on the road to recovery.
on November 4,2013 | 08:53AM
Leinanij wrote:
All Lies won't admit to anything, except the delusional theory that she's a Mandan princess.
on November 4,2013 | 11:55AM
allie wrote:
huntress hon
on November 4,2013 | 02:41PM
allie wrote:
funny...but yes, I enjoy the mythman.
on November 4,2013 | 02:41PM
mellishi wrote:
...auwe -"work the bugga out"! No give up! If can, can - if no can, no can do.
on November 4,2013 | 05:41AM
HiNaihe808 wrote:
Talking about for profit --- »there are thousands of attorneys in Hawaii but and that political connections of Continental attorney Lex Smith, who was Mayor Kirk Caldwell's campaign chairman was hired by Continental Pacific. ----something smells very stink.
on November 4,2013 | 06:39AM
false wrote:
Yeah, now you find out how some people work behind the scenes make you wonder what kind of deal he made to get elected mayor with the rails contractors, etc. LOL
on November 4,2013 | 09:33AM
Wazdat wrote:
AGREE. They made the wrong choice
on November 4,2013 | 09:49AM
LMO wrote:
"...feel they have a right to the land." Another group that feels they are entitled to something for free, that the rest of us are not entitled to. Sheesh!
on November 4,2013 | 03:02AM
cojef wrote:
Some are immigrants and feel that the plantations exploited and abandoned them and now feel that they have vested rights on the former plantation land, nothwithstanding the fact that there are now new owners.
on November 4,2013 | 09:07AM
DAGR81 wrote:
Just part of Obama's entitlement vision...take, take, take. Has he announced his Hawaii vacation plans yet...on the taxpayers' dime? take, take, take.
on November 4,2013 | 10:05AM
JnS wrote:
So when Obama goes on vacation once a year it's a waste of taxpayers' money, yet Mr. Bush took a vacation every other month...but that was okay?
on November 4,2013 | 11:47AM
Leinanij wrote:
Good one.
on November 4,2013 | 11:56AM
DAGR81 wrote:
Obama has not limited himself and his family to "once a year vacations" since he took office. He and his family travel often (sometimes separately) and entertain lavishly on our dime...and this does not his fund raising trips.
on November 4,2013 | 03:17PM
lee1957 wrote:
None of these free loaders are plantation workers, they are offspring or second generation, just trying to keep the gravy train on the tracks.
on November 4,2013 | 10:18AM
islandsun wrote:
Most are children of immigrants and their offspring. I don't like the developer but these tenants have no right to the land and have had it good with respect to housing all these years.
on November 4,2013 | 01:20PM
koolau wrote:
KV5 is only one section of Kahuku with issues. KV4 is still in a "holding pattern", which it has been since day one of the planation closing. The future of those residents and those in other areas of Kahuku waiting to buy their properties, are still very much in question. Right now, a $150,000 offer sounds very good.
on November 4,2013 | 04:08AM
mikethenovice wrote:
In America, money talks.
on November 4,2013 | 04:28AM
allie wrote:
In Hawaii money talks.
on November 4,2013 | 05:21AM
mikethenovice wrote:
on November 4,2013 | 06:24PM
Imagen wrote:
Yes that and WHO you know. In this case it's Caldwell. Who knew?
on November 4,2013 | 11:22AM
fandm wrote:
$650 in rent? I've never paid that, even when I was 22 living in my first place.
on November 4,2013 | 04:40AM
mikethenovice wrote:
We are not comparing with you. We are comparing with the current market price.
on November 4,2013 | 06:25PM
Mythman wrote:
So you buy the home for the lower price from the land owner then hire the land owner in his identity as a construction company to demolish the home you just bought then build another one for around 500,000. So you are out nearly a million but the subdivision is upgraded to the present day standard of the beach front. Is this right. Campbell started this mess. Where is the Queen in waiting, Abigail and her son the legislator prince, in all this mess. Kalakaua would be disgusted.
on November 4,2013 | 04:57AM
allie wrote:
Abigail is no more royalty than a toad hon. But I agree: let the rich Hawaiian Campbell make good on their promise, buy the land na hand it over to the aggrieved families. They talk a good game but when it comes to real charity we look to KS, Wilcox, Weinberg, etc.
on November 4,2013 | 05:23AM
hanalei395 wrote:
"we look to KS, Wilcox, Weinberg, etc." ....... "We"? To that malihini, allie, who hates Hawai`i and Hawaiians, and who, next month, is leaving Hawai`i forever .......don't worry about it.
on November 4,2013 | 05:52AM
allie wrote:
yes..we the people!
on November 4,2013 | 06:55AM
hanalei395 wrote:
You ....who soon will be leaving.
on November 4,2013 | 07:17AM
allie wrote:
I must graduate..my Tribal people count on that. UH needs me also. As does SA.
on November 4,2013 | 07:37AM
false wrote:
Yes, the HEKAWIS await the return of their Princess.
on November 4,2013 | 09:40AM
Imagen wrote:
A legend in YOUR own mind...that is all.
on November 4,2013 | 11:24AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
Good luck living on Spirit Lake Indian Reservation in North Dakota, where Indian foster parents rape, molest and murder their own foster kids. They need you as a social worker there. Save the Indian kids from their own kind!
on November 4,2013 | 02:36PM
Advsurfsail wrote:
Leave Hawaii already biotch!
on November 4,2013 | 07:23AM
allie wrote:
You need an outsider to tell you the truth.
on November 4,2013 | 02:42PM
false wrote:
This is my roots," said Jeff Compoc. "The houses was promised to us by Campbell Estate."
on November 4,2013 | 06:20AM
false wrote:
Campbell gave him the house, as promised. They didn't give the land, but they didn't charge rent. Thanks to your dad, who worked his fast off, you got free rent for decades. Not just you. Anyone who could prove they lived in Kahuku for ten years. Remember the lottery back in the 1970's?
on November 4,2013 | 06:26AM
false wrote:
Remember the lottery back in the 1970's? When Camplbell said to everyone we have a bunch of empty houses, families that moved out, or died and left to go elsewhere. Campbell gave them away to anyone who has lived there for ten year. And so a bunch of people, signed up, won the lottery, got free homes, then free rent, and if they stayed, they can continue. That's why this place is lala land - they got it for nothing, and they - the ones that fought everything, paid nothing - want it to go on forever.
on November 4,2013 | 06:28AM
false wrote:
Funny thing about the lottery: Robert Trotter won. So he got his house free, while the land was owned by his great grandfather's estate. And the estate bent over backwards to take care of KV5, both when they owned it and when they sold it, chosing Continental because they had a plan to take care of thses people. What Continental didn't understand, no one can understand, is how irrational these people are.
on November 4,2013 | 06:41AM
false wrote:
To wit: "We own this place," Lynn Eugenio said. "We own this land." No, you don't, and you know it. You never paid taxes on it. But you sure got to live on it for 43 years like you owned. it.
on November 4,2013 | 06:41AM
allie wrote:
on November 4,2013 | 06:57AM
false wrote:
He did have the number lottery ticket. wink- wink
on November 4,2013 | 09:43AM
Mythman wrote:
A LOTTERY! You mean gambling is legal in Hawaii?
on November 4,2013 | 08:56AM
Mythman wrote:
Weinberg rules - Pierre should follow the Weinberg rulebook. Did you know they are not only in the islands?
on November 4,2013 | 08:54AM
lee1957 wrote:
You should read yesterday's article, no one was promised real property for free, that economic model does not work.
on November 4,2013 | 10:20AM
kuniagirl wrote:
and Allie is a royal toad stool.
on November 4,2013 | 10:25AM
allie wrote:
I don't bow down to phony kings and queens. I have too much pride. People out here are anxious to bow low though. IT is a curious thing.
on November 4,2013 | 02:47PM
RetiredWorking wrote:
Myth, demolishing a cheap home and building another will cost WAYYY less than $500K, maybe less than $200K for a cheap home.
on November 4,2013 | 09:09AM
Mythman wrote:
So is continental going to be the contractor? Why pay the 150,000 to continental. Just pay them for the cost of the new house as you say.
on November 4,2013 | 09:47AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
Myth, tenants could finance $20K to Continental, as stated in a previous article. They'd have a $170K mortgage and could build on the land. More than likely, if Continental won't contract the work, they'd refer them elsewhere.
on November 4,2013 | 02:23PM
Bdpapa wrote:
Buy the property and miove on. You are not going to find anything comparable.
on November 4,2013 | 05:36AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
Guy, Lynn, Glen and others, you've placed yourselves in a sad situation. How? By not saving for the future. You were blessed with cheap rent, while others struggled to pay high rent, high mortgages or lived homeless. If you had saved 5% of your paycheck throughout the years, you could've jumped at the chance of buying the home and land that has cared and provided you shelter and stability for many many years.In the time you made $1000 monthly, all you had to save was $50. When you made $2500, you should've saved $125. Despite your lack of savings, you still have a chance of buying your precious home at a price no one in Hawaii has privvy to. It really is a no-brainer. I would imagine that at least 100,000 people in Hawaii would jump at the chance to buy your home for $150,000. Snooze you lose. You guys have been snoozing for decades. You will lose your precious home if you keep snoozing. I have friends like you. They've paid cheap rent to an 80-something year old relative for years. When the old man dies, the home will be sold to settle his estate. They'll be on the streets or paying $1000 more for a comparable home. At that rate, it'll be impossible to buy a home in the future. You guys still have a chance. If this message falls on deaf ears, I'll understand. Some people were never meant to own their own home, and I mean no disrespect by saying it.
on November 4,2013 | 05:44AM
ninilchikman wrote:
Best comment of all. This is the truth but people don't want to hear it, especially here in Hawaii
on November 4,2013 | 06:02AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Wow, agree 100% Great comment! When I first read the story in Part 1, I wondered why some were so upset. RENT means that at some point, you might actually have to move. Another company could have come in and evicted ALL of them. Then what? So, here's a company that comes in, offers renters a good price to purchase (originally $75.000 but now $150,000) and they can live in the same house. Many of them also have HUGE lots for that price. I had to pay a half million dollars for my measly 3500 sf lot. OK, there's a chance that others will move in with nicer homes, but that's true almost everywhere else! If you didn't save up a little all this time, living practically free, then you have no one to blame but yourself.
on November 4,2013 | 12:05PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Now days $650 a month would only get you a room at Akepo Arms. No free lunches today folks.
on November 4,2013 | 05:53AM
soundofreason wrote:
This story is no different than the thousands of people who have experienced their apartment complexes turn into condo units for sale. What these residents "want" is a non-issue.
on November 4,2013 | 06:06AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
I have a friend and his family who's been living in their dad's mortgaged second home for over 10 years.....for free. At one point, there were 7 adults and 15 kids in this cheap 3 bdrm home. There's only 3 adults and 3 kids in the house now, so my 61yo friend quit work. His wife and daughter work. Years ago,dad decided that my friend's brother and his wife would inherit everything. Friend was mad! He offered to buy the home for $100,000 without success. Dad passed away, so his two homes will be sold.Of course, my friend wasn't saving a cent when he was getting free rent. If he was, he could've bought the house he was living in.....for free.
on November 4,2013 | 06:09AM
sjean wrote:
I'll bet he owns a really nice car.
on November 4,2013 | 09:49AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
Nope, his only vehicle (SUV) is 10 years old. However, he gets to smoke the best weed every day.
on November 4,2013 | 02:41PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Question: How many cans and bottles did Magdelena collect to come up with $150,000 in cash?
on November 4,2013 | 06:36AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
If she didn't bank, it'd be 3 million cans and bottles. If she believed in the power of compound interest, 2 million.When I retire @ age 82, I'm gonna buy a hover board and pick mangoes, empty cans and bottles. If hover boards aren't invented by then, I'll settle for a 3-wheel bicycle(trike) and a long stick.:)
on November 4,2013 | 02:49PM
ptofview wrote:
Renting a home, even for generations, doesn't give the tenant any rights of ownership. Continental was overly fair to the renters who purchased their homes. Evict the greedy renters, sell the houses to other families, and get on with life. Sometimes you only get one chance for a super deal and then it's gone, for good.
on November 4,2013 | 07:18AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
pto, these are good people. It's not that they're greedy. It's that they never learned of the privilege and responsibility of home ownership. They learned the role of taking care of someone else's property, of being a good tenant. Some never learned good tenancy and were back on rent. As I said before, certain people were never meant to be homeowners, only home renters, and I mean them no disrespect.
on November 4,2013 | 08:42AM
Imagen wrote:
The core issue here is their life is a cycle of ignorance and I too mean no disrespect. Too often we see families repeating this cycle, where higher education is not an option, but yet "living for today" is. I would have assumed that the younger generation would not repeat what their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents did by trying better themselves with education and learned skills, and not duplicating the "plantation"mentality. There IS no more plantation! Living in the country is a wonderful and relaxing lifestyle. Who would not like that. Like everything else in Hawaii, it costs $$$ to live here. I am truly sorry for what is happening out in Kahuku. But some of this sad situation was brought on by making poor choices. There ARE consequences for the choices we make and the actions we take or not. Again "choices". $150K for property of their size and location sounds really reasonable. The sad part is these homesteaders cannot afford it, nor can they afford the current rental charges. A very sad predicament.
on November 4,2013 | 11:46AM
Advsurfsail wrote:
H e l l o....? KV5 dummies! Buy your lots already!
on November 4,2013 | 07:25AM
false wrote:
Now in case some think i work for CP, let me prove i dont: I'm too smart - they thought they were buying land, when in fact they were buying trouble - and it landed them in deep dodo. Bet they wish they'd stayed home
on November 4,2013 | 08:22AM
serious wrote:
on November 4,2013 | 08:38AM
DanLBoom wrote:
What's the Big Grumble??Continental LLC did the right and compassionate thing,by offering the residents to buy thier homes. The price was incredible.How do you pass-up something like that. ??Now they face the housing market of the "Real World". Median home price on Oahu ??What around 640k?? Welcome to paradise. Imua
on November 4,2013 | 08:51AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
I have a young friend who's been living in his step father's home for about 10 years.....for free. He's had his opportunities and squandered them. His working parents sent him to an expensive culinary school. He's too arrogant to work for someone else. Billionnaire real dad financed his new restaurant/bar, which foreclosed in 2 years. He's unemployed and cares for his school kids while his wife works. Now all he does is smoke weed and wait for his rich dad to die in about 20 years. BTW, his step brother bought his own house, has his family. He's disappointed his step-brother gets to live for free in the house that HIS grandfather purchased, but bites the bullet. If that was my son/stepson, he'd be paying rent for my second home.....or another tenant would be in there.
on November 4,2013 | 09:05AM
mikethenovice wrote:
This would not have ha[pens in the 1950s. Today, we are enabling our kids to take advantage.
on November 4,2013 | 06:27PM
ryan02 wrote:
Their beef is with Campbell Estate. It appears the Kawananakoas would rather pocket the cash than support the farming community, or honor their promise to give the workers the land.
on November 4,2013 | 09:27AM
Mythman wrote:
Did the reporter speak with Abigail or Quentin about this story?
on November 4,2013 | 09:48AM
false wrote:
No promise was made to give the land, read the blog
on November 4,2013 | 10:01AM
allie wrote:
I made the same point and got blasted for it
on November 4,2013 | 02:47PM
saveparadise wrote:
This is the price of progress. Compete to survive or live on the beach. I remember a song they used to sing "Manuela Boy". My heart goes out to these families. So many of us had generations work Oahu Sugar, Dole, or Del Monte.
on November 4,2013 | 09:47AM
Manawai wrote:
"This is my roots," said Jeff Compoc. His father came to Hawaii in 1924 to work as a laborer for Kahuku Plantation Co. "The houses was promised to us by Campbell Estate." Not to you Jeff, but to your father for his and his wife's lives. That always was and remains the fact of plantation housing. It was for the worker and his/her spounse and not a continuing legacy for all of their descendents! That would be tantamount to a sale if it were. It wasn't a sale. the cheap rent the plantations charge, typically $35/month since the 1970s, was part of the workers' retirement program negotiated in good faith by the unions. You went to work for the military, why didn't you get your own home?
on November 4,2013 | 09:48AM
Wazdat wrote:
The extra expenses, opponents argue, could bring the total cost to $500,000 or $600,000. "You might as well move to Hawaii Kai,

Avg price in Hawaii Kai is over $900,000. Too bad these people did not see the opportunity to own. SAD

on November 4,2013 | 09:48AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
In 1967, my brother bought his NEW house in H Kai for $27,000 leasehold.He added 2 more bedrooms & fee simple when 3 kids arrived. He and his wife are gone, but one kid got the house, the other 2 bought in H. Kai too.
on November 4,2013 | 02:32PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Kids will not be able to pay the property taxes, termite the house, and buy homeowners insurance after they inherit the home without getting a job today.
on November 4,2013 | 06:28PM
nodaddynotthebelt wrote:
It is amazing to me that these renters are crying foul when a new owner is offering them fair market value for the homes or lots they are renting. The company has every right to sell the homes as they are the new owners. The fact that they offered the homes for well below market value was very generous. And how do this ingrates thank them? By complaining. This sense of entitlement will be their demise. Just because they worked for the plantation years ago does not give them a free pass in the real world. I believe in fairness and helping others but this is just ridiculous. They already were renting the homes for very low amounts and now they are complaining when the owners had to sell the lots to another company who had a reason to purchase, to make a profit. These people must live in a fantasy world.
on November 4,2013 | 10:18AM
allie wrote:
agree..but there is a handout mentality out here and it haunts the place.
on November 4,2013 | 02:51PM
RetiredWorking wrote:
My son grad from UH in May, started working in September. He wanted to rent in town with 2 friends. "Heck, buy a condo and have your friends rent rooms from you." I advised. When son told his friends that, they and their parents were thinking to be my son's landlords too, lol. It's a GREAT time for first-time buyers, with 3.5% down. FHS waives their 2-year job experience requirement, if you work in the field you have your degree in!
on November 4,2013 | 03:02PM
mikethenovice wrote:
Father Knows Best!
on November 4,2013 | 06:29PM
Jmhata wrote:
Maybe former workers children lQQk at the current real estate market , lots of way o circumvent the law if you cannot rebuild or have a limit you can spend on renovation. Lucky they have the opportunity to buy most plantation workers just got kicked out after plantation closed down!
on November 4,2013 | 06:58PM