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District 2: 27% of roads are in 'poor' or worse condition

By Marcel Honoré

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LAST UPDATED: 07:00 p.m. HST, Feb 13, 2014


A survey done late last fall found that 72.8 percent of District 2's roads were in "fair" condition or better. That's just about on par with the 72.2 percent of city roads islandwide that were in fair shape or better. Five other districts had higher percentages than District 2 with roads in fair shape or better overall.

DISTRICT 2

» Represented by City Council Chairman Ernest Martin (Email)

» Encompasses the largest geographical area of all Oahu's districts, stretching from Mililani Mauka up to the North Shore and over to Kahaluu

Meanwhile, more than 27 percent of the district's roads were in "poor" shape or worse, compared with 27.8 islandwide.

Similarly, five districts had lower percentages of roads in poor shape or worse.

District 2, which encompasses the largest geographical area of all Oahu’s districts (it stretches from Mililani Mauka up to the North Shore and over to Kaha­luu), had less than one-half of a lane-mile in "failed" condition, or the worst of the worst. However, it did have nearly 56 lane-miles in poor shape. That represented 18 percent of the district's lane-miles — the second-largest percentage share of poor roads out of all nine districts.

District 2 also had nearly 21 lane-miles in "very poor" shape and almost seven lane-miles in "serious" condition — a notch above failed.

YOUR COMMENTS

Star-Advertiser readers sound off on island roads via Facebook, online story comments and emailed feedback:

Tax fuel more. The gas tax hasn't been raised in two decades. Then the gas guzzlers that drive the progressively heaviest vehicles pay their fair share.
—niimi

Millions of tax dollars collected for road maintenance and repair has been used for other purposes. Politicians call it "diversion"; I call it robbery.
—Ronin006

I would have to say ice road truckers have better roads to drive on.
—Thomas Spellman

The root of many city problems can be traced back to Harris. He had so many beautification projects that basic infrastructure was neglected. Mufi took over and had to move before the EPA started fining the city millions of $$$. Carlisle never met a camera he didn't like. Now Caldwell has a daunting task of repairing what has been neglected.
—lowtone123

THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX

To rate how badly damaged a road’s surface is, many cities including Honolulu use a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers-designed point system. Roads are scored between 0 and 100, with 0 being the worst and 100 being the best. The score is calculated mainly using three criteria: the type(s) of damage, how severe the damage is and how extensive it is.

Because it’s a score, there could be different types of damage seen in different categories. Here’s a general idea of what drivers can expect.


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THE WORST ROADS IN DISTRICT 2

Some roads may have been repaired since the City and County of Honolulu conducted its survey in 2012. An asterisk (*) denotes city road segments that are not listed on the city’s repaving schedule. Many of those roads are still in the design phase and will go out to bid for construction within a year, officials say.
ROAD FROM TO GRADE SCHEDULED FOR REPAVING
Pawehe Place Kaamooloa Road N/A Failed Not available *
Waipuolo Place Waioni Street End of street Failed 2015-2017
Hakuola Road Kamehameha Highway End of street Failed Not available *
Uapoaihala Place End of Mapele Road Coral Road Failed Not available *
Wilikina Drive 1,400 feet from Kamananui Kaukonahua Road Failed Not available *
Lauone Loop Malulu Place California Avenue Serious Not available *
Mikimiki Place California Avenue End of street Serious Not available *
Milikana Place Olive Avenue End of street Serious Not available *
Piplani Place Kamehameha Highway Dead end Serious Not available *
Waimakua Place Waimakua Drive End of street Serious To start within a year

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toomuchpilikia wrote:
You missed Meheula Prkwy..from H-2 to Lanikuhana Ave.
on March 27,2013 | 04:46AM
bender wrote:
Yes, that's a bad area but don't you think those trees in the medium strip should go before any work is done. Otherwise the tree roods will be damaging the roads again in a few years. The City should never have allowed Mililani Town to dedicate those roads to the city with those trees threre.
on March 27,2013 | 06:06AM
toomuchpilikia wrote:
Very much agree!
on March 27,2013 | 06:36AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Absolutely spot on bender and toomuchpilikia. Monkey pod trees are notorious for their damaging roots. The city should consult with botonists before planting destructive trees in close proximity of roads. They also planted a tree (I don't know the name) that sent runners into our Mililani yards that are next to impossible to get rid of. The eventually removed all trees on our cul de sac but the runners still remain and getting the city to own up to their mistake is futile.
on March 27,2013 | 07:33AM
localguy wrote:
Answer to this problem is very simple. If the Mililani Association put in the trees, they are responsible for sidewalk repair costs, not taxpayers. This may already be in effect. City will usually survey damaged sidewalks, bill the associations for repair costs.
on March 27,2013 | 11:51AM
1coconut wrote:
If the trees need to be removed it is going to cost us all a lot more than just cutting the roots that are causing the problem before they put down the base for the pavement. Of course you could look at it from a different perspective. Don't repair any road that runs along the ocean because sooner or later the waves will erode the road or rising water level from global warming will put high tides over coastal roads. Gee what a simple decision.
on March 27,2013 | 12:45PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
The initially tried cutting the roots but like I said this is the tree that cannot be killed. If Alfred Hitchcock were alive today, he'd make a movie called The Trees.
on March 27,2013 | 03:15PM
gmedley wrote:
Publicbraddah- I like your comedy.
on April 1,2013 | 11:37AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
We contact MTA and they said it's a city issue. Eventually, the city removed the trees and repaired the sidewalk.
on March 27,2013 | 03:14PM
sailfish1 wrote:
So much for the "All American" city. MTA really messed up the main thoroughfare in Mililani.
on March 27,2013 | 06:36PM
loquaciousone wrote:
The City is going to have a contest between Meheula Parkway and Wilikina Drive on who has the deepest pot holes. If your tires don't fall off after driving over the road, the road is considered GOOD.
on March 27,2013 | 06:53AM
Allenk wrote:
Included in the assessment should be that if your back is not sore after riding over these roads it is considered a GOOD road.
on March 27,2013 | 07:39AM
kennie1933 wrote:
The same goes for Lanikuhana Avenue itself from Kamehameha Highway to the top of the hill near Walmart. Driving on the inner lanes is like riding a roller coaster.
on March 27,2013 | 09:41AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
We go for a ride every day.
on March 27,2013 | 10:35AM
kekolohe wrote:
The map looks like it doesn't include most of Mililani, just Mililani Mauka. Hopefully this will be in the next one.
on March 27,2013 | 10:45AM
frontman wrote:
They must be using Hawaii's education way of grading where a C use to be a D-. But it makes everyone feel good and that's all that matters.
on March 27,2013 | 04:59AM
Allenk wrote:
It's called grading on a "curve." In this case a "bumpy" curve.
on March 27,2013 | 07:40AM
kahuku01 wrote:
From what I may recall, this is the first time that taxpayers are provided with so much data as to the conditions of the roadways on Oahu. This is an indication that the past city administrations (elected and appointed) have done a lousy job in keeping our roadways in good rating condition because of funneling taxpayers money on other projects that they were concerned about and in the meantime neglected the conditions of the roadways. This is how the roadways became like 3rd world countries. Former incompetent leaders created all this pilikea and now, Mayor Caldwell and his administration must catch up all that was neglected for decades. Go mayor and this administration is finally taking care of business that really affects the taxpayers whether it be the bus routes or maintenance of the roadways. Mahalo for taking care of business that other administrations (all talk and no results) neglected for decades.
on March 27,2013 | 05:52AM
bender wrote:
Except it's not very good data. I live in district 2 and am familiar with some of those spots mentioned but I can tell you that there are many spots that are much worse than what is mentioned in the above report. And it remains to be see if Caldwell will fix the roads. The easy part (talking) is over, now it's time to deliver.
on March 27,2013 | 06:03AM
engineersoldier wrote:
This is a key point: collection of accurate and current data, their upkeep and mgt. Neither the city nor the state are capable of doing this nor have a system/culture in place to do this. This is why the city resorted to the one time use of the whiz bang camera survey, which is of limited use. Data is key and fundamental of doing anything systematically, efficiently, and rationally. Without them, you're just shooting in the dark without a night vision device.
on March 27,2013 | 08:52AM
localguy wrote:
kahuku01 - Nice try but Caldwell get zero credit until years from now when results are known. If his repairs are also coming apart in a year or two, than no change from current ops. Taxpayers need a proven track record of results by the city before success can be measured. Kirky boy may be just like all the other bureaucrats, a loser. PS: How much did Caldwell pay you for this fancy post. Just asking....,
on March 27,2013 | 11:54AM
kahuku01 wrote:
IRT localguy: Caldwell is not my man and so is Cayetano or Carlisle. Caldwell did show a bad example of putting asphalt into a pot hole but than again you've missed the gist of my comments. It's just so unusual to read and view pictures of so many roadways and the attention that this administration is focussing on fixing the roadways on Oahu and it's about time and whether they do what they say they will do is another thing. Results do take time and we must give this administration the time before success can be measured. It doesn't take a week or month to recognize success so be patient and don't jump into conclusion. And just for asking "how much did Caldwell pay me" is an unbecoming gesture. Nobody need to pay me for voicing my own opinion and whether you agree or not, doesn't mean beans to me.
on March 27,2013 | 02:00PM
loquaciousone wrote:
This survey must have been done by a blind mute blind man. I duuno where they went but it sure wasn't Oahu.
on March 27,2013 | 06:51AM
realist3463 wrote:
And you wonder why our kids cannot read and write correctly. Worst?
on March 27,2013 | 06:52AM
ready2go wrote:
Just fix the damn roads! Talk is cheap!
on March 27,2013 | 07:13AM
gsr wrote:
27.21% poor or worse. 48.95% fair or worse. I guess it's good that state roads are not included in these stats or percentages would be much higher. I wonder what the strategy is for district by district SA articles? How do the other counties compare?
on March 27,2013 | 07:21AM
olos73 wrote:
Agree with @gsr, if State roads were included the #'s would skyrocket. Just look at all the freeways and main highways on the island. At least the Mayor puts #'s out even though he'll get blasted. The Gov hasn't made his plan on road repairs like the Mayor and he hasn't put out any #'s like this report. I guess he just wants to see how much bashing the Mayor will get to fix City roads before he does anything for State roads.
on March 27,2013 | 11:48AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
I can't believe some of the road conditions in Mililani Mauka, a fairly new community. We need to send our DOT personnel back to school for refresher courses on new technology. Also, need supervisors who will set workers straight when they see them cutting corners. Do it right!
on March 27,2013 | 07:35AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Same is true in Ewa Beach (the newer part) where it RARELY rains. The stretch of Kapolei Parkway between Ocean Pointe and Sun Terra is fairly new, about a couple of years old, but it already has potholes.
on March 27,2013 | 11:34AM
localguy wrote:
Sorry but union collective bargaining rules set contracts for road work standards so low it guaranties them a life time income. Unions knew if they did the job right, would look bad on them. Better to work low standards and keep the rice bowl full. Unlike Japan where workers have integrity, take great pride in their work. We are so far behind the real world...........
on March 27,2013 | 11:56AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
So true. Unions = no pride.
on March 27,2013 | 02:16PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
27%!!! I highly doubt that. City likes to fudge figures. I'd say it's minimum 50%.
on March 27,2013 | 07:38AM
Publicbraddah wrote:
27%!!! City likes to fudge figures. I'd say minimum 50%.
on March 27,2013 | 07:38AM
PMINZ wrote:
How come the Alaska highway running from Alaska to the West Coast of the USA has Worse weather conditions to deal with lasts Better than the lousy road making in Hawaii? Is there something that we all are missing? Or is Hawaii just using Crappy procedures? Also Quick patching by just tossing a shovel full of pavement in a pothole without Preparing the pothole or even applying some Hot tar before the shovel full of pavement so the patch will last for more than till the next rainstorm. Really POOR management of the roads.
on March 27,2013 | 08:02AM
kennie1933 wrote:
I think I missed this comment, so I made a similar one about Seattle below. But yes, there are places with a LOT worse weather, so I wonder how they make their roads last. When I visited Japan, they have road construction where they have to patch afterwards, but the patches are so good that you have to look really hard to see them. Not sure if country roads are the same but at least in the big city, their roads are immaculate.
on March 27,2013 | 11:37AM
localguy wrote:
kennie1933 - I've traveled around Japan, have to agree with your assessment of Japanese roads. Even outside the big cities they are in better shape than ours. Yes, they have been patched but the job is done so well it is easy to miss. They take great pride in doing the job right the first time unlike in the Nei where they just slop shovel it in.
on March 27,2013 | 11:58AM
kennie1933 wrote:
And sometimes, our "patches" end up being worse the the pothole because it's too soft, gets kicked up, and forms a mini speed bump.
on March 27,2013 | 12:19PM
Macadamiamac wrote:
The north bound lane of Kam Highway at the Helemano (Paalaa Road) turn-off is a tank trap that gets worse after every rain, and the same lane from the Kamananui intersection north should be rated 'very poor' despite the lousy patch jobs that are every hundred feet.
on March 27,2013 | 09:07AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Why does SA put only pictures of out-of-the way one lane roads. If you drive past Schofield on your way to the North Shore, Wilikina Drive is so bad you're lucky to come through that section with all your tooth fillings still in place.
on March 27,2013 | 09:39AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Why does SA put only pictures of out-of-the way one lane roads. If you drive past Schofield on your way to the North Shore, Wilikina Drive is so bad you're lucky to come through that section with all your tooth fillings still in place.
on March 27,2013 | 09:39AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Whenever we have issues such as this, I often wonder how other places with worse conditions deal with the problem, or if they even have a problem. Take Seattle for example, where it rains almost every day. I wonder if they have poor road conditions? And if not, what is their "secret?"
on March 27,2013 | 09:44AM
iwanaknow wrote:
I think they misspelled pipilani (in Hauula)
on March 27,2013 | 11:00AM
TLehel wrote:
Fix the roads so I can skate on them. I can't slide on a messed up hill. The neighborhoods in Hawaii Kai are absolutely atrocious. You'd think the "rich" neighborhoods would have well kept roads. . .
on March 27,2013 | 01:19PM
juscasting wrote:
They only talk about surface streets! What about H-1 westbound lanes between Sears Distro to H1-H2 split? Pot holes at times are so big you can see the rebar exposed. And town bound lanes of H-1 from Waimalu cut off to Aiea cut off? Couple parts got so much asphalt patch over concrete you hit it at 55 mph and you think you're landing in a 747 missing a wing?
on March 27,2013 | 02:41PM
olos73 wrote:
The freeways are STATE roads. That's the Gov's responsibility. All the main highways included. Kamehameha Hwy., Farrington Hwy., Kalanianaole Hwy., Moanalua, Pali, Likelike, most of Nimitz, Ala Moana Blvd., etc. This is a City report. I haven't seen any plans or reports from the Gov's office yet.
on March 27,2013 | 06:46PM
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