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Video of shooting scene screened in courtroom

By Ken Kobayashi / Sarah Zoellick

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LAST UPDATED: 06:22 p.m. HST, Jul 31, 2013


In court Tuesday the defense attorney for U.S. State Department special agent Christopher Deedy played parts of the McDonald's restaurant's security surveillance video showing the aftermath of the agent shooting a Kailua man.

It was the first time that portions of the video were shown publicly, but the key portions of the recording of what happened before and during the shooting remain confidential.

Those portions are expected to be shown later in the trial.

Deedy, 29, who was here to provide security for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference, is charged with murdering Kollin Elderts, 23, at the McDonald's Kuhio Avenue restaurant early Nov. 5, 2011.

Deedy isn't disputing he shot Elderts, but is contending he fired in self-defense when Elderts attacked him and grabbed his gun.

The soundless video is a series of frames recorded generally at about one per second. It has jerky quality and is in color.

Defense lawyer Brook Hart showed a series of the video images on a courtroom monitor to the jury and to Hono­lulu Police officer Ke Aka Wai­pahe Aiu, who arrived at McDonald's after the shooting.

He testified a police officer told him to watch the agent's 9 mm Glock pistol.

The video showed Deedy handcuffed and Elderts' blood on the agent's clothing.

Hart questioned Aiu about the images that showed the officer at times away from the gun that was on a counter as he took photographs with a camera.

"I don't think anyone touched it," he said about the gun. "The scene is locked down already."

Aiu testified that when he secured the gun, a shell casing came out from the weapon. The defense is contending the reason the empty shell remained in the weapon was that Elderts was grabbing the gun, which prevented the shell from being ejected.

Leslie Ann Murakami, a police evidence specialist, took the witness stand and identified photographs taken at the scene and evidence that included photographs, Elderts' bloodstained clothing, Deedy's gun and State Department credentials, and ammunition shell casings.

Murakami said she found eight rounds in Deedy's gun magazine and two bullet holes in the restaurant wall: one above a window and another closer to the ceiling.

Deedy fired three shots, the third fatally wounding Elderts in the chest, according to the defense.

Murakami testified that she later dusted the gun for fingerprints and found none.

Inside the left rear pocket of Elderts' denim shorts, she said, she found a $100 bill, a $10 bill and his identification card.

Deedy's personal items included $300 in 15 $20 bills that Mura­kami recovered as evidence but was later returned to Deedy, she said.

Elderts' friend Malie Goodhue gave the trial's most emotional testimony.

She said Elderts was in good spirits when he left friends in Waikiki before he went to the McDonald's restaurant.

She said Elderts and his friend Shane Medei­ros had joined her and friends for a night celebrating birthdays in Chinatown.

Goodhue described Elderts as a "jokester" who had a "very contagious, one-of-a-kind laugh" and who "liked to make people feel comfortable."

She said Elderts had smoked marijuana earlier and had been drinking beer, but said Elderts and Medei­ros seemed "fine" before they left to get some food.

"They were happy — tired, but they were happy," she told the Circuit Court jury.

Goodhue broke down when she testified that she later received a call from a police officer that Elderts had been involved in some sort of altercation.

Goodhue said that when she later saw Medei­ros at a Waikiki hotel, he was crying and saying, "He's gone."

"He was a mess," Goodhue said.

Before driving to Kailua to inform Elderts' family that he had been shot, Goodhue said, she and Medei­ros dropped off a friend at the Queen's Medical Center.

"We didn't want his body to be there by himself," she testified.






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MalamaKaAina wrote:
Show the McDonald's security surveillance video so the world can see junior G-man in action!
on July 10,2013 | 02:21AM
hanalei395 wrote:
Thankfully, this won't be like another "Massie Case", where people who were visiting from the U.S., were simply assumed to be innocent when they were charged with the murder of a local man. Times have changed. Republicans are no longer in charge of Hawai'i. And White Supremacist Walter Dillingham and newspaper publisher propagandist Lorrin Thurston are no longer around. After being found guilty, and after one day, the murderers were let go to leave Hawai'i. Dillingham and Thurston were the principle individuals who got the murderers to get away with murder.
on July 10,2013 | 06:16AM
allie wrote:
Elderts is a white Portuguese hon. Don't spin your shibai here
on July 10,2013 | 06:30AM
hanalei395 wrote:
And a local man, whako.
on July 10,2013 | 06:39AM
allie wrote:
local? so what. He is an alien in Hawaii. Portuguese came late in 19th century. He is considered a foreigner by Hawaiians.
on July 10,2013 | 07:41AM
hanalei395 wrote:
He's local, he was born here. You're the foreigner who will be leaving Hawai'i, never to return.
on July 10,2013 | 08:02AM
mayihavesumor wrote:
A reporter reporting on the Massie trial described the three defendants as local. A common description in most places that means a person that lives in the area. However because of the racism in Hawaii the term local became a code word for non-white. As a part Portuguese (real pale) man growing up in Hawaii I often wondered why haoles, no matter how many generations born and raised here were not considered local. That door was closed by white racists all those years ago.
on July 10,2013 | 08:42AM
allie wrote:
Portuguese are not indigenous so they have the wrong bloodlines according to OHA and KS.
on July 10,2013 | 10:03AM
holokanaka wrote:
mayihavesumor, you are absolutely correct. if people want to know why they should read Honor Killing be David Stannard
on July 10,2013 | 01:58PM
holokanaka wrote:
Portuguese are not "considered foreigners by Hawaiians". you try to be local or at least think you know local culture allie but you know nothing. you are still an id i o t.
on July 10,2013 | 01:55PM
Mypualani wrote:
Allie please don't speak for Hawaiians, I am one Hawaiian who does not consider the victim a as you stated a foreigner. Oh and my Great great-grandfather was Portuguese so what does that make me? eh never mind.!
on July 11,2013 | 07:11AM
allie wrote:
a foreigner hon..or part foreigner. OHA considers Elderts a non-native therefore not elite, native or worthy of special benefits and free money.
on July 11,2013 | 08:25AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
All-lie, Elderts was a LOCAL part-Portuguese man. Allie, who's spinning shibai here? Lol, you better get ready to run when you call many Portuguese people "white".
on July 10,2013 | 06:42AM
allie wrote:
Elderts was a white amn. Portuguese are Europeans. Elderts looked white, talks white and was white. White on white crime is what we have here
on July 10,2013 | 07:40AM
hanalei395 wrote:
"Talks white"? allie talks to dead people.
on July 10,2013 | 08:15AM
allie wrote:
He spoke pidgin but so do all races. This is white on white crime so don't make it another phoney race issue. Some were blaming whites for killing Trevon martin in Florida until they looked at the kilelr and saw he was totally Latino. So that phoney narrative exploded. But was is real is that Latinos and Blacks do not get along on the mainland and violence is common. Not always of course but there is real tension. So grow up and face racial complexity in all of its faces.
on July 10,2013 | 10:06AM
hanalei395 wrote:
allie talks to dead people who "talks white" and "speaks pidgin".
on July 10,2013 | 10:19AM
Usagi336 wrote:
Allie, the point is no matter if Kollin was pure Hawaiian, in Deedy's eyes he was local. Which in Hawaii has a different meaning than other places as people had mentioned already. And I no tink da brada was talkin da kine standard white english.
on July 10,2013 | 10:45AM
Fred01 wrote:
Too many locals are ignorant mumbling slobs. Being "local" is nothing to be proud of.
on July 10,2013 | 11:42AM
allie wrote:
but OHA denies that he is Hawaiian. Portuguese are white. Anyone can speak pidgin.
on July 10,2013 | 12:34PM
hanalei395 wrote:
Fred, who HATES locals with a passion, is trying to say that he's happy he wasn't born here.
on July 10,2013 | 01:24PM
honopic wrote:
allie, your posts prove once again that you don't know what you're talking about. "Shibai" is an act, and it can't be "spinned." 3rd- and 4th-generation Portuguese are not considered "foreigners" in Hawai'i. Recent arrivals from ND, here just to go to school on the taxpayers' money, are considered foreigners. The word is spelled "phony" not "phoney." You, of all people should know that, since it's a descriptive adjective that fits you well. The man killed in Florida was named Trayvon Martin, not "Trevon martin" and I don't know what you mean by "kilelr" because that's not a word in any language. I also don't seehow you can even pretend to know that Latinos and blacks "do not get along on the mainland" since it's unlikely you ever encountered either group in ND. The population there is less than 700,000 and 90.1% describe themselves as white. Only 1.5% define themselves as black or African American, and only 2.5% as Hispanic or Latino. As usual, you post just to see your own name in print. Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:03PM
allie wrote:
makes no sense. I am part white myself. Mandan is my identification. Shibai is a noun hon.
on July 10,2013 | 12:44PM
turbolink wrote:
What makes no sense is that no matter what the topic, particularly when it's someone else's misfortune, allie rallies to make it racially or ethnically charged, often the first to do so. For some perverse reason allie with his/her Mandan screen persona seems to get off on doing that, perhaps feels a free pass through the alleged Mandan facade. It's an ugly practice and stirs up unnecessary emotion. Sadly, allie stated in this forum that to him or her it is entertainment and fun. No it's not, nor is it perky, clever, an objective outsider view, or any other lame justification that allie uses to rationalize his or her negativity.
on July 10,2013 | 02:01PM
Fred01 wrote:
Portuguese people are white. What the heck are you talking about silly local?
on July 10,2013 | 11:40AM
hanalei395 wrote:
After allie brings up and puts "Portuguese" into the subject, Fred comes to allie's aid.
on July 10,2013 | 12:07PM
allie wrote:
I made this hideous event racial? Ummm..read SA or watch TV. They are playing this angle up to see their papers and news. I was the one saying it was not a race issue.
on July 10,2013 | 03:09PM
hanalei395 wrote:
You keep on mentioning "Portuguese". No one mentioned it until you did. And you keep bringing it up. So much so, you even got Fred doing it.
on July 10,2013 | 03:40PM
hanalei395 wrote:
I said Elderts was local but allie brings race into the subject. Keeps on mentioning "Portuguese".
on July 10,2013 | 04:07PM
BRock wrote:
Actually, I think the Portuguese people have a lot of African heritage. You must remember that Portugal was conquered and ruled by the Moors for many years.
on July 10,2013 | 04:42PM
Rivergrouch wrote:
go crawl back under the lava rock malama........anybody but malama
on July 10,2013 | 03:25PM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
lol
on July 10,2013 | 09:41PM
etalavera wrote:
Now the public gets to see what the prosecution didn't want us to see! Finally!
on July 10,2013 | 03:46AM
MalamaKaAina wrote:
Correction: What the Defense didn't want us to see!
on July 10,2013 | 04:29AM
etalavera wrote:
From the very beginning the defense has wanted to make all evidence including the security video public. The prosecution wanted to keep the video and other evidence sealed. http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/156021445.html
on July 10,2013 | 04:35AM
bender wrote:
Elderts would never have received a fair trial had the film been made public. It would have only reinforced the defense's motion to move the trial to federal courts in another state, a juridiction that had not seen the video.
on July 10,2013 | 05:15AM
bender wrote:
Correction, Should have said Deedy could not have received a fair trial.
on July 10,2013 | 05:24AM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
No bender you were right on the first call. Lol.
on July 10,2013 | 05:44AM
wiliki wrote:
Time will tell. So far it looks like what the defense has been saying.
on July 10,2013 | 06:12AM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
Errr, the gun police say the gun jammed (thats the significance of finding an unextracted shell in the chamber.) The police said they found no fingerprints on the gun. If Elderts had grabbed the gun, he would have left fingerprints on it.

Two things though. 1) Deedy's fingerprints apparently weren't found on the gun either, which seems awfully strange. 2) If some drunk guy starts shooting at you at extremely close range, trying to grab his gun seems like a completely reasonable thing to do.


on July 10,2013 | 07:12AM
allie wrote:
good point
on July 10,2013 | 06:30AM
Mypualani wrote:
Ask yourself this, what would the defense gain from making the video public? and now ask yourself why the prosecution wanted to keep it sealed "UNTIL" the trial? GEE you seem kind of smart figure it out. The defense wants it public so that they can say with certainty that deedee cannot get a fair trial here in racist Hawaii the land of hating brown savages .Get it? From the start they wanted the trial moved if there was one. so now there is a trial and after they show it to the Jury we all get to see the tapes. and the defense cannot say ooops tainted jury. Hart is pulling out everything he has to get deedee off. and that's just one of his tricks. But alas no treats.
on July 11,2013 | 07:45AM
false wrote:
Right! This isn't going away. We will have just for Hawai`i.
on July 10,2013 | 05:55AM
wiliki wrote:
So Deedy had to have been under Eldert to be covered in blood. And he doesn't look roaring drunk in the video. So far looks like it's consistent with the defense story....
on July 10,2013 | 06:10AM
allie wrote:
Deedy was wrong to have kept his gun on him when he was NOT on official duty. He was obviously poorly trained and needs to be fired at the least. That said, it is sad that McDonald's does not have a security person on duty at night in Waikiki locations. The security could have squelched the fight before it started. McDonald's is a disgrace for being too cheap to do that.
on July 10,2013 | 06:32AM
papaya wrote:
Law enforcement CAN carry their weapon off-duty, but he shouldn't be drinking if doing so. Even then, the policies are unclear. A security guard at McDonald's may not have necessarily been able to stop the altercation. Security guards are not like bouncers at a night club. Many are not trained to get physically involved. They are there to call police if something happens and serve as a witness. At least, maybe we would have a solid witness for this trial.
on July 10,2013 | 06:48AM
RetiredWorking wrote:
All-lie, an unarmed McD security guard would not have made a difference. They are not there to confront armed people. Anyone paid minimum wage is not expected to have the training and courage of a police officer. McD's is not required to spend $$ on security. What disgrace is that? Are fast food restaurants or any other establishments which don't serve alcohol required to provide security? Dumb comment.
on July 10,2013 | 06:50AM
allie wrote:
Disagree. Look at the bar near California Pizza Kitchen at Ala Moana Center. Those Tongan security guys say nothing, just sit on a stool by the door and show their 350 pound tummies. No one causes trouble. The Tongan just has to stretch and it terrifies troublemakers. McDonald's needs to pay for a Tongan. Deedy and the white man Elderts would have been told to take it outside and the problem is over. McDonald's was just too cheap to have proper security late at night. I work in fast-food in Waikiki and get off at around midnight. We have a security guy. Just the sight of him keeps the lowlife and angry men I see very night quiet. They go elsewhere for their fun.
on July 10,2013 | 07:45AM
papaya wrote:
Allie...does it have to be a Tongan?
on July 10,2013 | 08:30AM
allie wrote:
Tongan security is preferred in Waikiki. Go look. Could be any race but they have to be big, sullen, scary looking, etc. McDonald's is gonna get sued by Elderts family for failing to provide security when the bars close. The cheap owner-by the way who is he/she?-did not do so. I hope the Elderts clean up in the suit. I feel sorry for their unnecessary loss.
on July 10,2013 | 10:09AM
honopic wrote:
Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:06PM
NanakuliBoss wrote:
McDonalds hire an unarmed security to deal with armed federal agents? What was deedy thinking when he unleashed 2 blind shots into the window and roof? Headlines could have read 3 dead at McDonalds! Thank god elderts jammed that gun, otherwise Deedy might have unloaded his clip on his blind random firing.
on July 10,2013 | 03:33PM
honopic wrote:
Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:05PM
WEATHER wrote:
allie: "wrong to have kept his gun on him"???? Why you say? Only wrong if he was "intoxicated" according to first day testimony. And now it's McDonald"s fault? And at what hour does every business that's still open would you required them to have a guard on hand? 10PM? 11PM? Midnight? And every bar? Get a grip on.
on July 10,2013 | 06:53AM
allie wrote:
No professional would have a gun in a bar. He was a zero and had no authority to do anything off duty. He obviously was poorly trained. A low level guy on a very low level conference duty. If he had only left his gun in his room Elderts might have a fat lip but would be alive now. Same as the Zimmerman trial. The gun escalated the violence.
on July 10,2013 | 07:47AM
turbolink wrote:
Curious allie if your fantasy Waikiki pizza parlor has security? You are having a very hard time on consistent comments again.
on July 10,2013 | 09:14AM
allie wrote:
huh?
on July 10,2013 | 10:10AM
honopic wrote:
Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:06PM
Kalaheo1 wrote:
He didn't need to be "roaring drunk" to be impaired, just drunk. Try slamming back a bunch of alcohol, get pulled over for DUI, refuse the breathalyzer and blood draw, and then go to court with the "I wasn't ROARING drunk" defense.

You can be a beer guzzling, bar hopping tourist OR an armed Federal Agent, but not both.


on July 10,2013 | 07:17AM
allie wrote:
yes!
on July 10,2013 | 07:47AM
honopic wrote:
No. Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:07PM
KANEOHEGUY wrote:
TV showed knife on the floor last nite, how come no one is talking about this? Who's knife?
on July 10,2013 | 06:21AM
pgkemp wrote:
don't think anyone was carved up............
on July 10,2013 | 06:42AM
hapaguy wrote:
It was reported earlier that the knife was Deedy's......If I remember correctly Deedy used the knife to cut open Elderts clothing, after he shot him, in order to render aid....
on July 10,2013 | 11:36AM
KeithHaugen wrote:
Let's hope some good comes out of this tragedy. Regardless of the outcome in the courtroom, let's hope the feds will impose new restrictions on who among their G-men may carry a gun (maybe include maturity, experience, training, etc.) and set a new policy that prohibits fed gunmen from carrying a gun while out drinking and bar-hopping in the wee hours. If Deedy had not been carrying a real gun while out bar-hopping, there would have been no murder.
on July 10,2013 | 07:05AM
allie wrote:
agree..my Keith is right as always
on July 10,2013 | 07:48AM
honopic wrote:
"Your" Keith? I doubt he'd ttake that as a compliment. Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:08PM
OldEnoughToRemember wrote:
Also of note - if Elderts had not been using illicit substances, just ordered his food and gone and sat quietly, minding his own business eating it, he wouldn't have been shot.
on July 10,2013 | 09:42AM
allie wrote:
sorry but he did not deserve to die. Yes, he was impaired and trying to show off for his buddies. But with no gun there it just turns into the usual local yokel shoving match and no one is hurt. Sorry..but the gun condemns the silly and nerdy deedy to prison. Obviously he will be fired for incompetence as well.
on July 10,2013 | 10:11AM
Denominator wrote:
I think that if you had ever been beaten you would think and feel differently. You are suggesting that people should not be able to defend themselves from beatings. You are soooo wrong. People who abuse others physically deserve to be stopped. Whatever it takes.
on July 10,2013 | 10:28AM
hapaguy wrote:
You are correct. Elderts had every right to defend himself after Deedy struck the first blow a "thrust kick" to Elderts stomach. Elderts had every right to punch Deedy in the face after that. Deedy started it but couldn't finish it without his gun the coward......
on July 10,2013 | 11:47AM
etalavera wrote:
I don't know what article you have been reading, but even the prosecutor Janice Futa said in court Elderts either punched or slapped Deedy, who fell backward, got up and fired his gun at Elderts at close range. It was Elderts who delivered the first blow. http://www.staradvertiser.com/newspremium/20130709_Agents_intoxication_key_issue.html
on July 10,2013 | 11:55AM
hapaguy wrote:
Please read the article from Nov. 12, 2012 entitled "AGENT LABELED AS AGGRESSOR IN SHOOTING". The articles DETAILS THE COURT BRIEF filed by the Prosecutors office that said that DEEDY STRUCK THE FIRST BLOW by "THRUST KICKING" Elderts in the stomach. Elderts defended himself by punching Deedy in the face. That's when Deedy cowardly pulled his gun and cold-bloodedly shot Elderts and killed him.
on July 10,2013 | 12:17PM
allie wrote:
agree..Deedy had the right to shove back but not draw a gun.. Look, I have seen locals slugging other locals and making fools of themselves. But who cares as long as they don't pull a knife or gun. Let them roll around on the ground.
on July 10,2013 | 12:48PM
Denominator wrote:
Elderts was beating on another guy before he came after Deedy. I suppose you think someone should let you get beaten and do nothing. When the knife comes out, its too late for you.
on July 10,2013 | 01:32PM
hapaguy wrote:
Elderts was not beating on anyone! Not sure where you are pulling that one out from. Maybe Uranus. I defy you to provide a link to any article or eyewitness or testimony that Elderts was beating someone and thats why Deedy intervened....
on July 10,2013 | 01:40PM
allie wrote:
agree..just a shoving match....
on July 10,2013 | 03:12PM
honopic wrote:
Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:09PM
hapaguy wrote:
That's precisely what Elderts did according to the Prosecutor. It was Deedy who approached Elderts, who was seated waiting for his food order, and started the altercation. It was Deedy who threw the first blow, even going so far as moving around Jessica West to strike that first blow, a "thrust kick" to Elderts stomach, and it was Deedy who shot and killed an unarmed man. Elderts punched Deedy AFTER Deedy kicked him. Deedy couldn't finish what he started so like a coward he shot Elderts.....
on July 10,2013 | 11:44AM
etalavera wrote:
I don't know what article you have been reading, but even the prosecutor Janice Futa said in court Elderts either punched or slapped Deedy, who fell backward, got up and fired his gun at Elderts at close range. It was Elderts who delivered the first blow. http://www.staradvertiser.com/newspremium/20130709_Agents_intoxication_key_issue.html
on July 10,2013 | 11:55AM
hapaguy wrote:
Please read the article from Nov. 12, 2012 entitled "AGENT LABELED AS AGGRESSOR IN SHOOTING". The articles DETAILS THE COURT BRIEF filed by the Prosecutors office that said that DEEDY STRUCK THE FIRST BLOW by "THRUST KICKING" Elderts in the stomach. Elderts defended himself by punching Deedy in the face. That's when Deedy cowardly pulled his gun and cold-bloodedly shot Elderts and killed him. http://www.staradvertiser.com/newspremium/20121128__Agent_labeled_as_aggressor__in_shooting.html
on July 10,2013 | 12:17PM
etalavera wrote:
You offer an article from Nov. 2012 when I cite an article from YESTERDAY quoting what the prosector herself said in court. Hmm...
on July 10,2013 | 06:46PM
Mypualani wrote:
Old enough I can agree with you on that. But since when does EVERYBODY act like that? if Deedy didn't go bar hopping and instigate a fight and sat quietly minding his own business eating, he would not have shot Elderts.
on July 11,2013 | 07:23AM
Aieagrl wrote:
Hows about we see the video with audio of the actual shooting? Nothing more graphic than we've seen in a R rated movie before. Let us be the judge too if we are forced to watch the trial. Shoot, why not set up phone lines so people can cast their votes. Seems popular amongst the new generation.
on July 10,2013 | 07:19AM
OldEnoughToRemember wrote:
There was no audio.
on July 10,2013 | 09:42AM
allie wrote:
Both men were drunk and trying to show off their phoney and missing "manliness." A man makes peace and then walks away. But having that gun escalated the very unimportant silly shoving match to a lethal situation. What a tragedy the do-nothing waste of money APEC Conference helped to lead to this tragedy. How ashamed our so-called business "leaders" out here are for imposing this nothing conference on us.
on July 10,2013 | 10:16AM
Denominator wrote:
Right, there's no question that this incident is directly related to high taxes and the prospect of increasing property taxes - to mention the war in Afganistan - no doubt promoted by the same kind of leaders that were responsible for APEC. Don't you think they should be asking why this happened at McDonalds. No coincidence.
on July 10,2013 | 10:41AM
honopic wrote:
Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.
on July 10,2013 | 12:09PM
Kiana wrote:
Stop already!!!!
on July 10,2013 | 05:05PM
loquaciousone wrote:
Calling all expert witnesses...calling all expert witnesses....the prosecution in the Travon Martin case is badly in need of expert witnesses in light of their expert ME failed the expert test.
on July 10,2013 | 07:40AM
control wrote:
IMHO, prosecutors are just trying to build up the crowd (and jurors) by showing only snippets of the scene. They want to gain sympathy for elderts against the big bad g man. Just show us the altercation already and let us and the jurors judge for ourselves who was the agressor and if the shooting was justified. If Elderts was the agressor like the defense said then the video should show it. IMHO, something smells fishy, the prosecutor would have shown the whole video if it shows that Deedy was entirely to blame for the incident. I think that when the whole video is shown it will show that Elderts was also responsible for the incident, that's why they aren't showing the scene now. If Deedy was totally at fault the prosecutors would have shown it in the beginning. Yes, I am a local but I am not swayed by the haole/local racial tones, I want to see the facts and like the zimm case will not convict the guy until I see all the facts.
on July 10,2013 | 07:56AM
hapaguy wrote:
control please re-read the article. The first line of the article says the DEFENSE PLAYED PARTS OF THE VIDEO.....
on July 10,2013 | 11:51AM
false wrote:
Thanks. That is probably the most intelligent thing that has been said to date. I'm sure all those who share opinions here would want all the facts of the case to come out being on either side of the case.
on July 10,2013 | 11:57AM
allie wrote:
you welcome
on July 10,2013 | 03:12PM
turbolink wrote:
Forget which screen name you're using again?
on July 10,2013 | 05:05PM
lee1957 wrote:
Everything I've seen in print and TV makes me believe the prosecutor is clutching at straws. The main premise in opening statements was Deedy was drunk. A police officer offered an opinion, but no real evidence. Now we are pandering to everyone's emotions. Here is the gun. Here is the bloody shirt. Look, a picture of the dining room. Lets talk to one of his friends. At this rate they won't even be able to give Deedy a parking ticket.
on July 10,2013 | 11:56AM
loquaciousone wrote:
Just like the Travon Martin case, the prosecutors overcharged as a result of public pressure. Manslaughter would have been a more appropriate charge as there is no dispute that Deedy shot and killed Elderts. Murder implies malicious intent and I don't believe Deedy intended to murder Elderts.
on July 10,2013 | 12:30PM
hapaguy wrote:
I would agree with you except for the fact that according to the Prosecutors office Deedy kept telling Elderts he was going to shoot him.....sounds like malice aforethought to me hence the murder charge......
on July 10,2013 | 12:39PM
Denominator wrote:
If all you go by is what the prosecutor says, there is no question. If you go by the defense attorney, you get a different answer. That's why there's a trial and you ain't the judge.
on July 10,2013 | 01:35PM
hapaguy wrote:
You are right I am not the judge but I would rather believe in our HPD investigators and our Prosecutors office rather than believe a scu mb@g defense attorney any day!
on July 10,2013 | 01:43PM
Mypualani wrote:
Thank you Hapaguy.
on July 11,2013 | 08:02AM
allie wrote:
true
on July 10,2013 | 12:51PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
Yes indeedy.
on July 10,2013 | 12:53PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
On the one hand, the NSA can watch you pick your nose from 112,000 feet in space with absolute accuracy. On the other hand, store security cameras produce images that can't be clearly made out from 10 feet away.
on July 10,2013 | 12:52PM
64hoo wrote:
I would throw out most of the goodhue testimony because she said he and a friend were in good spirits when they left the party. that's all she can testify to, because everything else she said is all heresay and defense attorney should bring that up. because she did not know what time they left her party and remember she said they only drank and smoked pot. but yet he was found with other drugs in his blood which he probably took after leaving her party. who knows what elderts did after leaving the party. maybe he got in to trouble somewhere else after taking other drugs and then going to mcdonalds acting like a punk, who knows. that's she can't say he was in good spirits after leaving the party and going to mcdonalds she don't know what happened in between when he left her party and went to mcdonalds. she can only say he was in good spirits when he left her party she cannot say anything else after that of what happened.
on July 10,2013 | 05:01PM
Mypualani wrote:
She only testified to what she knew, she never said anything about in between, what else did she testify to? sometimes pot is laced with cocaine okay? so now here you are speculating yeah? it was not "other drugs" they said Marijuana and small amounts of Cocaine from the coroners report. They were in Waikiki because they rented hotel rooms so they would not have to drive back to Kailua after a night of partying, Your Buddy Deedy was out having a good time as well so who knows what he was under when he when act like one punk with a gun, das what I saw in he video. BTW the video is out. see we will never know what Deedy was under the influence of because he refused the test remember? But the police and others could smell it oh and the real witnesses who were there will testify. trust and believe.
on July 11,2013 | 08:29AM
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