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Heisman handicapping has Te'o in 2nd place behind freshman QB

By Ferd Lewis

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LAST UPDATED: 10:30 a.m. HST, Nov 26, 2012


With one week of voting until the finalists for the Heisman Trophy are announced, several predictions have Notre Dame senior linebacker Manti Te'o running second to Texas A&M freshman quarterback Johnny Manziel for the award.

A USA Today survey of 37 Heisman voters lists Manziel with 90 points to Te'o's 74. Kansas State quarterback Collin Klein is third with 32 while Ohio State quarterback Braxton Miller is fourth at 17.

Meanwhile, Heismanpundit.com said today that it is declaring Maziel the winner. "The race is over and Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel is going to win," heismanpundit.con said. It lists Te'o second, followed by Klein, Miller and USC's Marqise Lee.

Te'o, a 2009 Punahou School graduate from Laie, grabbed his seventh interception in Saturday's victory over USC as the Irish finished 12-0. Manziel passed for three touchdowns and ran for two more in Texas A&M's victory over Missouri.

Heismanpundit.com said it has "picked five of the top six finishers in the final vote in 2008 while correctly tabbing the top four in both 2009 and 2010 and, most impressively, the top seven in 2011." 

Of the four projected finalists, only Klein has a game remaining before balloting closes Dec. 3. Kansas State plays Texas Saturday.

The finalists are scheduled to be announced Dec 3 with the winner revealed Dec. 8 in New York.

No freshman has ever won the Heisman and the only primary defensive player to win the award was Michigan cornerback Charles Woodson in 1997.






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lowtone123 wrote:
Amazing since Manziel was hardly even mentioned until K-State lost to Baylor and now he's the frontrunner.
on November 26,2012 | 07:59AM
kahuku01 wrote:
Why is it that Klein (Kansas St) was the front runner and because his team lost to Baylor, dropped to 3rd and Manziel (Texas A&M) lost 2 games (Florida & LSU) and goes on top of Manti whose team is undefeated. It's all politics.
on November 26,2012 | 06:10PM
waverider808 wrote:
such shibai, no track record on a freshman and no impact as far as a championship team is concerned. didn't even take the sec west. total shibai...
on November 26,2012 | 08:07AM
lee1957 wrote:
You misunderstand the tropy. The only track record that counts is the 2012 season.
on November 26,2012 | 10:41AM
RILIMIAI wrote:
I hope Heismanpundit.com is wrong, but I'm sure Teo is focused on an unbeaten season and a National Championship, and the Heisman is great but a secondary goal. No freshman has ever won the Heisman, and I'm pulling for a Senior who spent four years in school and obviously can't win it next year. Hopefully some of the people with the votes feel the same way, although Manziel has been terrific and exciting for college football, and if he wins it, he would be deserving.
on November 26,2012 | 08:11AM
false wrote:
Manziel now being a candidate is a bunch of BS. Teo is a victim of politics with the whole college football scene starting with the BCS.
on November 26,2012 | 08:36AM
lee1957 wrote:
Politics? What a chuckle. No doubt Manti is one helluva football player, but his odds are longer than Jonny Football. The only reason Woodson, primarily a defensive player, won the trophy is because he also scored touchdowns on special teams and offense. Take away Woodson's offensive production and Peyton Manning wins the tropy. Manti will garner his share of post season hardware, but Johnny Football gets the heisman. Politics has nothing to do with it.
on November 26,2012 | 10:56AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Too bad that scoring is so important, huh? If not for a good defense, you'd be trying to outgun all your opponents every game. What made Oregon a little better team this year is that they had some defensive improvement. What made ND successful is defense since their offense is not the type to put up 50 points per game like Oregon. Too bad the NC game is not between these two. It would be interesting to see if Oregon can score on the ND defense. They sure failed against Stanford's D.
on November 26,2012 | 01:10PM
walaau808 wrote:
Admit that the award is slanted heavily towards offensive players, and that in a perfect world you and I both know that Manti was better and meant more to his team than Manziel ever will. HEISMANTI!!!!!!
on November 26,2012 | 01:12PM
lee1957 wrote:
Heavily? Try totally.
on November 26,2012 | 02:15PM
rayhawaii wrote:
Te'o has my vote.
on November 26,2012 | 08:40AM
allie wrote:
homer fav?
on November 26,2012 | 09:46AM
pakeheat wrote:
how about domer fav?
on November 26,2012 | 11:35AM
walaau808 wrote:
Nope, Manti is the most outstanding player in college football this year...PERIOD!
on November 26,2012 | 01:12PM
jaluasa wrote:
I can see them giving it to Manziel. They beat the #1 team in the country in their house, have accumulated 5k yards and amassed 43 TDs and play in what many still consider the top conference, the SEC. Take him out of the equation and Texas A&M pretty much has no offense.
on November 26,2012 | 09:16AM
walaau808 wrote:
Take Manti out of the question, and ND is not playing for the National Championship! Take nothing away from Johnny Touchdown, but I think Marcus "Super" Mariota meant more to Oregon and he isn't even mentioned in the discussion. Manti truly deserves this award, more for what he's done off the field then on it!
on November 26,2012 | 09:27AM
kennie1933 wrote:
It will be difficult for a defensive player, but we can all hope. As far as Mariota, and even Kenyon Barner, consider that in many games this season, both of them did not even see action in the second half because Oregon was blowing out its opponents. Imagine if they played whole games. It's not and should not ever be all about stats. As you say, it should focus more on the importance of the player to his team, and if he were not there, would the team be the same? In Oregon's case, second string QB Bennett usually played the second half, and usually against the opponent's second string defenses. He was not all that effective. It will be interesting down the road as Mariota and Manziel are both freshmen, to see how they play out. The one thing Manziel has going for him is that he plays against a constant diet of SEC defenses while the PAC-12, except for Stanford, is not well known for its defensive prowess.
on November 26,2012 | 09:54AM
jaluasa wrote:
And when UO faced Stanford, the closest thing to an SEC defense in the Pac-12, they pretty much got shut down.
on November 26,2012 | 10:28AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Guess you missed my first line and my line about stats. Stats should only be a part of the award. If A&M's o-line is bad, Manziel is nothing. Te'o should get it.
on November 26,2012 | 11:12AM
jaluasa wrote:
Guess you don't understand how they pick the Heisman.
on November 26,2012 | 02:17PM
kennie1933 wrote:
Guess you missed my first line. Learn to read, please!
on November 26,2012 | 04:14PM
jaluasa wrote:
And learn to read my post (roll eyes) and TRY and understand how they pick the heisman...
on November 26,2012 | 04:21PM
kennie1933 wrote:
"It will be difficult for a defensive player, but we can all hope." Translated, this means Te'o will not likely win it, but it would be nice if he did. OK? "A" if for Apple, shiny and red.....
on November 26,2012 | 04:57PM
allie wrote:
Teo is a good player but the Heisman is for offensive players, primarily QB's who play the most important positions.
on November 26,2012 | 09:45AM
steelinhome wrote:
Middle linebacker is QB of defense, but Manti Te'o is the epitome of this Notre Dame team's soul.
on November 26,2012 | 10:53AM
pakeheat wrote:
7 interceptions for 2012, that is incredible for a linebacker, isn't?
on November 26,2012 | 11:36AM
walaau808 wrote:
Where in the heck did you get "Heisman is for offensive players"? The Heisman is awarded annually to the player deemed the most outstanding player in collegiate football, not the most outstanding offensive or defensive player! What has been forgotten in all this is that DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS! Teo is an outstanding player! The only thing Manziel has going for him is his victory over Alabama. If not for that, nobody would be talking about him for the Heisman! For this year, the award should be called The Heismanti!
on November 26,2012 | 01:07PM
lee1957 wrote:
You obviously are not in tune with college football, or your Manti glasses prevent you from seeing other possibilities. Manti will probably be deemed to best defensive player, but he won't win the heisman. The reason the trophy is won primarilly is by quarterbacks is the impact they have on the team. No one else handles the ball as much as they do.
on November 26,2012 | 03:55PM
ya_think wrote:
allie do some research before you put your foot in your mouth.
on November 26,2012 | 04:28PM
Kuokoa wrote:
The Heisman should not only go to the best player in college football, offense or defense, but the team that player is on should have one of the best, if not the best, records. That said, the Heisman should go to Teo.
on November 26,2012 | 09:57AM
ya_think wrote:
The heisman is nothing more than a popularity contest for QB's, they say it is the best player in college football but that is a falsehood. Manti is without a doubt the best all around player in college this year.
on November 26,2012 | 10:03AM
kennie1933 wrote:
Unfortunately true. Yet, isn't it ironic that QB is a position that really depends on the rest of the team for success? The o-line needs to give good pass protection, receivers have to run the right routes, running backs need to gain positive yards to make the passing game effective, all so that the QB can get some stats. Yes, the modern QB meeds to make proper reads, but he can do that only if he has time. Could Manziel be in the running if he played for Hawaii? With defense, it's just you and the guy with the ball. You need to make the effort to see who gets the ball quickly, then try to make the tackles. Sure, another teammate can help, but if it's just you and the ball carrier, you need to make that tackle, and Manti has proven that he can do it with much regularity. With interceptions, the ball is not even meant for you, so you need to anticipate when the opportunity arises. Manti has seven this year. The whole idea of football is that offense is proactive because you know what you're trying to do. Defense is reactive because you're guessing what the offense is doing and then reacting which is much more difficult. A good offense is exciting, but a good defense wins games. Manti should get it!
on November 26,2012 | 10:35AM
kahuku01 wrote:
Absolutely! Without excellent receivers or offensive lineman, Manziel wouldn't have the stats he has today. The disadvantage for Manziel is that his team has 2 losses (Florida and LSU) and his team isn't playing for the national title. He's also a freshman and have three more years to play whereas as Manti has put in his four years of ups and down and finally has peaked and will be playing in the national championship game. If Manziel should receive the Heisman, the pressure would be on him for the next three years, having to prove that he is worthy of winning the Heisman and should he not have good linemen, receivers or perform to expectation will definitely be a disappointment. It's like Tebow winning it when he was an underclassman.
on November 26,2012 | 11:29AM
false wrote:
RIght on! Manti should win hands down. But the rest is BS.
on November 26,2012 | 10:39AM
Justpress wrote:
...sad part is that Johnny Football will only last this year...SEC teams will now target him and he will never put up this years numbers again...hope that voters deep down know the impact Teo has had for the past 4 years...
on November 26,2012 | 12:30PM
lee1957 wrote:
But the heisman is not a career achievement award...........just saying.
on November 26,2012 | 03:56PM
ya_think wrote:
From the Heisman website" "For the 78th time since its inception in 1935, the Heisman Memorial Trophy will be awarded to an individual designated as the outstanding college football player in the United States. The Heisman Trophy is a national symbol of collegiate football experience and competitiveness. At the same time, it has become the single most celebrated and sought-after award in American collegiate athletics." Notice it states "will be awarded to an individual designated as the outstanding college football player in the United States" It is for the best player in college ball no matter what position you play!!
on November 26,2012 | 04:34PM
kennie1933 wrote:
"It will be difficult for a defensive player, but we can all hope." Translated, this means Te'o will not likely win it, but it would be nice if he did. OK? "A" if for Apple, shiny and red.....
on November 26,2012 | 04:56PM
kennie1933 wrote:
Sorry....meant for "jaluasa" above.
on November 26,2012 | 04:57PM
Kapaho wrote:
Johnny who?
on November 26,2012 | 05:27PM
willman wrote:
Manti Teo deserves to win the Heisman Trophy. Manziel could not help his team be undefeated even though they lost to outstanding teams never the less they lost two games and are not rated #1. If Texas A&M were undefeated and ranked #1 perhaps I would see this in another way. Manziel will probably win the Heisman and he and his family will make plenty of money trade marking " Johnny Football "
on November 26,2012 | 07:50PM
jimbone wrote:
Manzeil= tebow ..... And probably end up like tebow
on December 1,2012 | 02:56AM
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