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Don't let go of 'Bows,' supporters of UH nickname plead at rally

By Star-Advertiser staff

LAST UPDATED: 08:16 a.m. HST, May 04, 2013

About 60 people rallied near Bachman Hall at the Universty of Hawaii at Manoa Friday afternoon in hopes of convincing Athletic Director Ben Jay to keep the "Rainbows" nickname for men’s sports.

Fans, young and old, held signs touting the Rainbow name, but their pleas are not expected to fall on sympathic ears.

Jay, who was out of town Friday, wrote a letter to “Rally 4 Rainbows” organizer Steve Chinen thanking him for his “feedback and passion,” but reiterating that the change will take place on July 1.

In February, Jay announced that the school would officially begin calling all its men's teams ‘Warriors" on July 1, while all the women's teams will remain the "Rainbow Wahine."

Currently, various men's teams go by "Warriors," "Rainbow Warriors" and "Rainbows." Jay said the change is for branding purposes and to avoid confusion.

The UH Letterwinners Club sent Jay a letter on Wednesday also urging the athletic director not to make the change.

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HonoluluHawaii wrote:
Make a compromise by selecting Rainbow Warriors. Better yet, make it a vote in the school newspaper Ka Leo O Hawaii. The AD being chastised and not in the favor of the students would not be a great way to be thought of. Rainbow Kane and Rainbow Wahine might be more in line with how Hawaii would be thought of. Warriors does seem to be too generic.
on May 3,2013 | 05:38PM
Skyler wrote:
Compromise sounds good. How about "Warriors" if they win; "Rainbows" if they lose?
j/k - GO BOWS!!!!
on May 3,2013 | 07:49PM
allie wrote:
We all prefer the name "bos." The Warrior shibai was started by Dobelle, the crook, who brought ina PR firm he had connections with and paid a fortune to come up with a bad name.
on May 4,2013 | 03:20PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Rainbow Warriors for men's sports, Rainbow Wahine for women's sports. Nothing hard about that. It satisfies all parties.
on May 4,2013 | 09:37PM
bumba wrote:
How about keep "Rainbows" and get rid of the AD?
on May 3,2013 | 05:40PM
Anonymous wrote:
Right on!
on May 3,2013 | 07:07PM
kailuaboys wrote:
Nah, keep the AD and get rid of Rainbows.
on May 3,2013 | 11:56PM
Bdpapa wrote:
Yes Sir Baby!
on May 4,2013 | 08:30AM
bumba wrote:
Chances are he's already made deals with merchandisers using the new name.
on May 3,2013 | 05:54PM
inverse wrote:
Maybe but no one is buying the generic hand me downs. There is so little interest in the current football team ESPN refused to nationally televise any UH games
on May 3,2013 | 07:02PM
WarriORduck wrote:
ESPN has interest in Hawaii FYI. The MW is protecting Oceanic/UH TV deal. Without football games for the PPV package, UH would get no money ($2.3 mil - 2.6 mil, depending on who you talk to). UH has on of the largest transplant fan bases in college sports (Fans/viewers spread out across the country). Closed door sources mentioned $3 mil annually from ESPN when they were thinking about going independent.
on May 4,2013 | 09:00AM
Wazdat wrote:
oh please hawaii does NOT have that large of an audience. DREAM ON
on May 4,2013 | 09:08AM
WarriORduck wrote:
Not a dream at all. I recommend you enquire about UH's tv draw and viewers over the last 6 year to ESPN. They'll provide that info for you. Viewers tune-in collectively from markets Las Vegas, California, Oregon, Washington, Texas, and Arizona when games are nationally televised or regionally broadcasted (*And not only when Hawaii plays the home states teams). Moves the needle, you know what I mean? Not $$$ like in the PAC-12, but you gotta be ignorant to think Hawaii doesn't have a sizable fan base over their mid major brethren.
on May 4,2013 | 09:41AM
WarriORduck wrote:
Oh yeah...Don't forget about their international TV markets in Japan and other smaller markets of the pacific that Oceanic broadcasts University of Hawaii content to.
on May 4,2013 | 10:51AM
oxtail01 wrote:
Wonder how many of these nimwits actually support UH athletics financially.
on May 3,2013 | 05:58PM
Pareidolic wrote:
If they're members of the Letterwinner's Club, all of them. What are your financial contributions, and why do they entitle you to judge them "nitwits"?
on May 4,2013 | 10:52AM
WarriORduck wrote:
on May 4,2013 | 10:53AM
jakwa wrote:
How's about you guys let the AD do his job?!
on May 3,2013 | 06:07PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Yeah, he can do his job. Just let the public decide the name, not somebody from the mainland who had no ties to Hawaii.
on May 4,2013 | 09:39PM
rytsuru wrote:
What makes anyone think that the admin at UH Manoa gives a rat's behind what the students, or public in general think? They hand out six figure salaries to transplants from the mainland who make bigger and bigger demands marginalizing the local cadre of instructors and faculty, they squander MILLIONS on sycophant attorneys and consultants who keep saying that what they are doing is perfectly legal, and by the way " according to our studies, you are doing a GREAT job! ". They pulled off getting away scott free from the Wonder Blunder, they could change the name of the University of Hawaii to University of Shangri-La and no one will do a damn thing about it.
on May 3,2013 | 06:14PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
You're absolutely right, of course. But, we're not giving up.
on May 4,2013 | 09:40PM
jussayin wrote:
Go Bows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on May 3,2013 | 06:20PM
Ronin006 wrote:
Warriors is the better name as it conveys strength and courage whereas Rainbows conjures up an image of a bunch of guys in ballerina skirts tip-toping through the tulips.
on May 3,2013 | 06:29PM
serious wrote:
Agreed, next we'll have a gay only team!!!! Yeah, that was Tiny Tim, right?
on May 4,2013 | 08:59AM
Ronin006 wrote:
Correct, Tiny Tim and it was tip-toeing through the tulips.
on May 4,2013 | 09:04AM
Kaluu wrote:
Interesting. Rainbows does sound a little effeminate, I guess. It certainly does when compared with Warriors. But wouldn't it be more politically correct, considering recent trends, to make them sound less fierce and prone to war-making and other disapproved manly behavior? How bout we go name um someting even mo gentle like, Na Pua Nani, The Pretty Flowers?
on May 3,2013 | 06:37PM
inverse wrote:
Who's kidding who? You think UH with their warrior name and haka dance is more 'manly' and more respected than the University of Oregon and their 'wimpy' Daffy Duck mascot or the University of Alabama and their Crimson Tide which is a disgusting algal bloom that kills marine life? Opposing teams, sports channels and the paying public are NOT fooled when the only improvements a football team can make is to change their nickname to be more 'manly' or improve the choreography of their pre-game 'war dance'
on May 3,2013 | 07:31PM
WarriORduck wrote:
Can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure recruits (young, image conscious) think about it. You should take to actual polls before passing your opinions as facts. BTW Puddles is the name of our Duck mascot, and your getting it twisted with Donald too not Daffy.
on May 4,2013 | 09:19AM
Allenk wrote:
The warriors, rainbow or whatever we call them need to concentrate on winning instead of solidifying a nickname.
on May 3,2013 | 08:10PM
WarriORduck wrote:
Fans need to concentrate on supporting there teams than talking trash about an AD thats only months into his first term.
on May 4,2013 | 09:05AM
honomukeiki wrote:
Unfortunately "Rainbow" has taken on a less than manly connotation.
on May 3,2013 | 08:31PM
Ronin006 wrote:
Yes, the rainbow flag is a symbol of gay pride.
on May 4,2013 | 04:53PM
poidragon wrote:
Why is this nobody of an 'atheletic director' being allowed to change the name of our university of Hawaii teams? He has no standing in the community, he is new to the position at UH and is still learing the ropes about the teams, and now he want's to make such a significant change to how the school is represented, some one should slap this guy upside his head and tell him, 'hey, wake up and smell da coffee Braddah!'
on May 3,2013 | 08:56PM
808ikea wrote:
Only 60 people??? Now if it were a few thousand that would be a concern, but if you can only muster 60 people it is time to give the Rainbow thing up.
on May 3,2013 | 09:42PM
false wrote:
To pacify everyone, we should be called "the Ainokea Rainbow Warriors".
on May 3,2013 | 10:22PM
NDN wrote:
This is of the utmost importance. I can't think of anything more worthy of our time and attention than this. We must resolve the "warrior vs rainbow" debate. Our very existence as the 50th State in the Union depends on it. Imua!!
on May 3,2013 | 10:54PM
DaGuy wrote:
Grumble grumble grumble. Change is good local people. Let the man do his job and support him. Remember when you grumbled about June? Now look what happened. Get with the times. Sugar cane days are long time ago already.
on May 3,2013 | 11:03PM
HOSSANA wrote:
Chinen and his sixty or so supporters can be branded with one word......IDIOTS!!
on May 3,2013 | 11:39PM
64hoo wrote:
as I said earlier name all the men sports warriors, rainbows is to felinee, now the women should have the rainbow name because of a Hawaiian legend about a Hawaiian girl who became a goddess and transformed into a rainbow it was a Hawaiian legend about manoa that I read a few years ago. so the rainbow word should be for women sports only.
on May 3,2013 | 11:44PM
Oahuan wrote:
Put it to rest already. It's the end of the rainbow. GO WARRIORS!!
on May 3,2013 | 11:44PM
roninsensei wrote:
Wow! Some 60 people at this rally. Looked more like an AARP convention. Time to move on.
on May 4,2013 | 12:43AM
DanLBoom wrote:
roninsensei Ha! Ha! Ha!...Still laughing.Thanks i needed that. Yeah ! "Time to move on ". And Ben ..... Don't fold ,Stay the Course.. IMUA WARRIORS
on May 4,2013 | 07:41AM
hanalei395 wrote:
"IMUA WARRIORS"? ......What next?.... New colors? ...Blue and white?
on May 4,2013 | 08:34AM
nitpikker wrote:
i think ben gay is june jones in disguise! he's going to do his job with smoke and mirrors just like jj!! same mediocre product, just try to make it look good!!
on May 4,2013 | 06:54AM
niimi wrote:
Really a dumb move to first let the names get out of sync, then even dumber the lose the traditional name altogether.
on May 4,2013 | 07:33AM
niimi wrote:
My guess is that the masses of people aren't passionate enough to take legal action. Typical of Hawaii's people, only make noise by no guts to take it to that next level. That is why we have the same politicians in office for decades. Yawning at this mere buzzing sound.
on May 4,2013 | 07:34AM
inverse wrote:
That is an accurate statement. The majority of the public will suffer financially and be negstively impacted by in town rail construction and the loss of street lanes due elevated rail but people just allowed the ball-n-chain project to be railroaded into existence. Same thing with handling of the forced name change if the rainbows. I also suspect Jay to be a closet religous type that feels he has the moral obligation and gods backing to stricken the name raimbow because LGBT have adopted the rainbow ad their own symbol. No rational thinking person will automatically associate the long standing raimbow name with UH athletics with ho mo se xu ality EXCEPT for people who has personal issues like demolition driver JJ or Jay
on May 4,2013 | 08:25AM
UhhDuhh wrote:
Go Warrainbowriors!
on May 4,2013 | 11:23AM
Manoa_Fisherman wrote:
With all the problems facing the UH, some thing as small and petty as a nickname does not warrant an ounce of consideration by anyone at the UH. All of a sudden, these 60 protesters think they represent a multitude of people that their point of view is important? I think not. Get over it, and move on with your lives or may be you need to "get a life".
on May 4,2013 | 12:17PM
f206 wrote:
Where were all the protests when June Jones changed the name?? All this bitching and moaning over such a senseless issue. Much more important things to be concerned about as far as UH is concerned. Get over it and move on. This is exactly the reason nothing gets done in Hawaii, too many Save the Rainbows, Save the Natatorium, etc. Ben Jay was brought here to do exactly this, make decisions to move Hawaii's athletic program forward. The provincial thinking of the past should be just that, a thing of the past!!!
on May 4,2013 | 12:43PM
jrboi96786 wrote:
60 people and majority of them are old people... OMG!!!
on May 4,2013 | 02:07PM
jrboi96786 wrote:
what about Coconut Huskers or Pineapple Pickers... as long as we don't use the rainbow.
on May 4,2013 | 02:11PM
Loki wrote:
60 people?!
on May 4,2013 | 08:50PM
slink wrote:
It doesn't matter what the "official" name is. At the first football home game, vs USC, just before kickoff and perhaps during every time out, everyone in the stands should chant, "Rain - - - - Bows" back and forth across the field, like we used to do. We, the fans, can make the change on our own!
on May 4,2013 | 09:28PM
Publicbraddah wrote:
Why didn't Ben Jay change the nickname for Ohio State? It's because Buckeyes uniquely identifies Ohio State just like Rainbow Warriors and Rainbow Wahine will be for Hawaii. Kinda sounds like Jay's already made some deals he can't back down from. Hawaii, the screw me state.
on May 4,2013 | 09:43PM