78- . Bad; traffic, loss of farmland (564 Votes)
- . Great; housing, master-plan needed (186 Votes)
- . Mixed blessing (105 Votes)
This is not a scientific poll — results reflect only the opinions of those voting.
Big Q
Overall, what do you think about the upcoming Ho’opili community near Kapolei?
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DLNR sellouts!
The minuses out weigh the the positives … short term and long term. What is at the end of this rabbit hole we are sliding down? Here are some terms for consideration: water, carrying capacity, traffic, quality of life, locally grown food, open space, and water again because it has both an important organic and inorganic role to play.
Again, politicians got paid off. But the public is too inept, lazy and ignorant to have prevented this development that only benefits the developer and a few politicians. I just cannot imagine the traffic congestion in five years; ten years. This is a huge, huge, huge mistake.
People of HNL deserve the shaft. Get ready folks…it ain’t gonna go through smooth and painless…
Everyone is against building housing anywhere on Oahu, but then those same people are the first to complain about the lack of available housing. The loss of ag land is regrettable, but if Ewa and Kapolei are to take the overflow from Honolulu, they will need housing. As I understand it, DR Horton will be required to add a lane to the H-1 around that area. Much more needs to be done with H-1. We need to hold our politicians responsible for making that happen.
couldn’t agree with you more.
Totally agree!
Totally disagree with your first sentence. I will voice my own opinion which is against encouraging over population and over extending the resources of our aina which are finite on such a tiny island. The exploitation is being driven by developers, speculators, and the bought and paid for politicians that are allowing the reallocation of valuable land.
So your view is that if we don’t build, people will leave or at least stop coming? They won’t. It’s too nice here. The continuing housing shortage will just price everyone but the very rich out of the Hawaii market.
I do agree that more needs to be done to conserve resources, particularly water. One idea might be for homeowners/home builders to use more artificial turf. Keeping golf course-like lawns in front of every house is not sustainable.
Aloha FWS, Again I beg to differ with your first paragraph. Why do you think Vegas is called the Ninth Island? What kind of housing are you referring to? Ho’Opili is not an affordable housing development that would provide low rent or $225,000.00 homes like you can find on the mainland.
Outlaw more than 2 kids per couple. Population growth ruins everything, and is also the reason for Hoopili and even the darn rail-
I agree with some of what you say. I do know this for sure: those “AG lands” that are always being brought up?….Yeah, when the land just sits there year after year after year for 100+ years, it’s not “AG land”. It’s AG land when someone grows something on it, until then, just land.
Great deal… more potential train riders. The entire community will probably be finished long before the train is. (and under budget too) LOL LOL LOL
And EVERY single home there will have a MINIMUM of THREE automobiles…mark my words. Plus ALL their kids will be going to private schools IN TOWN.
Deals like this is why Governor Ige extended the sustainability plan to 30 years No place to farm.
ige is quite the tool. he wants us to grow our own food but supports taking away prime farm land. no make sense governor.
Since 1959 when we became the 50th State, the Demoratic party has been in control of the State government, hook line and sinker with their parter – the Unions. They signed of to the developers and fill Waikiki with concrete (tall condos) that is literally taking the real beauty away.
Now they have signed off to have 11,000 homes in Kapolei that even the rail won’t help in the future traffic jam coming into town from Kapolei. They see all this future property tax home owners to fill their greedy coffers.
Growing up in Hawaii, the population was once 500,000 with the true Hawaii scenery on this island. now its over 2,000,00 people are living here with no stopping of more coming here to live.
Because the Democrats have caused the high cost of living here, the true local born families are moving in droves to the States of California, Nevada and Washington. Slowly these new residents will eventually take away traditions that we have enjoyed in Hawaii for years.
This is an election year. So!!! You can yell and scream to the people here who are being ovet-taxed to remove these Democrats from office in an election year, but it never happen. It seems once a Democrat always a Democrat that most people will say. Yet their pocket book is being eaten up by this party of rich and greedy politicans.
I agree with your comments and lament the loss of the Hawaii I grew up in. But there were plenty of folks back then lamenting at what Hawaii had become. Its been a long descent. The Democratic Party has lost any ideology except for one that sells to the highest bidder. That being said, any party with total political control will become corrupt. We need more of a balance.
Since I’m a fact nazi, the last time Hawaii had a population of 500k was in 1945 and it is now just over 1.4 million.
They are building 11,000 new houses up the street from my house in Ewa Beach, are they building that many in Kapolei also??
I agree with you because I too enjoyed the half a million population and all the scenery back then. But you will never, EVER, stop development and growth. Of course population will grow. And grow and grow and grow. It’s what we as humans do. So we can’t just lay around and grumble about growth, we have to instead work to accept and handle it properly. And “handling it” is not what our current leaders are doing so far IMO.
The political elite and their cronies are doing the best they can to fill their pockets. They really do not care what happens to the rest of you as long as they are taken care of.
In a few more years, Hawaii will no longer have any place for the average person. The younger people would be wise to look elsewhere if they want any chance of achieving the American Dream. That will no longer be possible here and as you can tell, corruption is rampant as well. This is a direct consequence of the one party rule that has been in power since
statehood.
If our politician were less greedy and were thinking about the future of our aina, they would have seen the potential in keeping our farmlands in Ho’opili, dividing it in to smaller AG lot parcels and selling it to residents(not big developers) who want to own and operate their own farms. The one caveat would be that would need to source and grow organic and non-GMO produce, livestock and/or products. Ho’opili could have been the first organic planned farm community in the Hawaii. We have great weather year round and once we remediate all the pesticides from soils from the past, Ho’opili could have been world renown for its organic farming community. We need to provide more opportunities for our small farmers and our aspiring farmers who care about what we eat
Hoopili is in that part of the island that is establish for urban development in the 30 year state plan on sustainability for the date.
It was discussed by the public in public meetings for the plan, organised by Republican Governor Linda lingle.
Since we have ample agriculture land on the island (irrc about 50000 acres), I guess environmentalists never really kicked up a big fuss about losing some land at Hoopili.
It’s certainly better then having development take place on agricultural land all over the island.
The concept of the urban zone was only made possible by having rail run through this Urban core. If rail is not built, then we will have development taking place all over.
In short we will have urban sprawl because if rail is not built, then the concept of the urban zone is not viable. The 30-year plan will not be sustainable.
We-licky, the cost of living on Oahu is not sustainable. What do you do when rent increases so much that your social security check cannot cover it? Your savings that you thought would last a life time is gone and you barely can afford $1 meals at the fast food restaurants? Trains? More $700,000.00 homes? All you are doing is attracting more rich people and speculators.
Nope…. the scarcity of housing is artificially caused by suppression of property development in Honolulu.
If the the Hoopili and Koa Ridges properties were built about 10 years ago when the applications were put in, we would have enough housing to accommodate 80,000 people in the urban core.
This is a failure of government. Failure to keep up with housing demand causes this sorry situation in Hawaii.
Housing is really the big cost in Honolulu.
The other cost is transportation ever though we have a pretty good bus system. Just don’t try to take the bus in busy hours.
We should have had rail when it was first proposed 30 years ago.
We have created our own high cost of living in Hawaii. Leadership is to blame. Except for rail, can’t say they did their best to address these problems.