Honolulu Star-Advertiser

Friday, December 13, 2024 75° Today's Paper


Top News

Trump backers baffled by criticism of his Muslim proposal

1/2
Swipe or click to see more
2/2
Swipe or click to see more

ASSOCIATED PRESS

Tracy Hooker talks about Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump at Rosie’s Hot Dogs in Greer, S.C. on Thursday.

GREER, S.C. » As she’s working the counter at a hole-in-the-wall hot dog stand named Rosie’s in upstate South Carolina, Tracy Hooker isn’t interested in debating the merits of Donald Trump’s proposal to temporarily block Muslims from coming into the United States.

She knows some people think it’s bigoted. That others argue it’s impractical, legally dubious or both. And that every other Republican running for president has, in some way or another, rejected the idea that the plan is even worth talking about.

That’s why she says Trump is “my guy.”

He’s the only one who gets it.

“Think about it. You don’t know what you’ve got here. You’ve got no clue,” she said of the Muslim tourists, immigrants and refugees Trump wants to temporarily bar from coming to the U.S.

“You don’t know if they like us. You don’t know if they hate us,” said Hooker, 47, of Greer, South Carolina. “You don’t know why they’re here.”

To Hooker and the dozens of Trump supporters interviewed in the past week by The Associated Press in the first-to-vote states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, the near universal condemnation of the billionaire’s plan is simply baffling.

They hear U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan say, “This is not conservatism,” and British Prime Minister David Cameron call it, “Quite simply wrong.” They listen to the secretary general of the United Nations call Trump’s plan “xenophobic” and an “appeal to hate.”

And, they say, they marvel at how naïve all the critics sound.

In the wake of the attacks in Paris and shootings in San Bernardino, they say only Trump is taking on what they believe is a clear and present danger to America and its citizens.

“When you’re in war, you have to take steps that are not American to protect yourself and defend the country,” said Margaret Shontz, of Cedar Falls, Iowa, as she arrived at a Trump campaign stop in Des Moines on Friday.

Trump’s call to bar Muslims from coming to America is “awesome.”

“Very needed,” she said. “Very necessary.”

___

By their own description, Trump supporters are frustrated and angry about the direction of the nation. They fret over the fate of the economy, feel betrayed by the nation’s immigration policy and worry America has lost its way on the world stage.

In interviews with AP, they argued Trump’s plan for Muslims who want to come to the U.S. is a bold proposal that regular politicians are too timid to make. They feel the criticism that comes from those same politicians is rooted in the weakness Trump promises to sweep away.

Iowa’s Dale Witmer, 90, a registered Republican and World War II veteran who likes Trump and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, embraced the Muslim ban as a “great idea.” While he has concerns about Trump’s unfiltered style, he praises him for talking about things he says others are thinking but afraid to say themselves.

“I’d like to go back (to) when I was younger in the 50s and 60s, when the country was a little better. It was America then. I’m starting to worry we’re starting to lose identity in this country, I do believe,” Witmer said.

He added he was taken aback by the backlash: “I don’t know how to comprehend that.”

Many of Trump’s supporters called the reaction to his plan yet another example of the Republican establishment and a biased media trying to stop a candidate who refuses to play by their rules.

Dan Edwards, a retired banker from Van Meter, Iowa, who brought his family to Trump’s town hall in Des Moines on Friday, said the real estate mogul’s words were taken out of context to make his plan sound more extreme.

“I think it’s been made into something it wasn’t meant to be. I think basically what he’s doing is saying, ‘OK, wait a minute. Refugees, we need to make sure we know what we’re looking for and to make sure everything is in place,’ ” said Edwards, 53, who compared the proposal to a temporary “time out” while the country re-assesses the situation.

Trump made the proposal a week ago, releasing a statement on Dec. 7 that called for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”

Trump’s campaign said immediately thereafter the proposed ban would apply to “everyone,” including individuals seeking to immigrate to the country as well as those looking to visit as tourists.

When asked by AP if the ban would apply to U.S. citizens traveling, working or living abroad, including American servicemen and women who are Muslim, Trump responded via a spokeswoman, “You figure it out!”

As the week progressed, Trump began to fill in additional details. He said American citizens, including Muslim members of the military, would be exempt, as would certain world leaders and athletes coming to the U.S. to compete.

“By the way, it’s not total and complete. And it’s temporary,” Trump said Sunday in an interview with CNN. “You’re going to have exceptions. You’re going to have people coming in and you are going to get people in.”

New Hampshire state Rep. Stephen Stepanek, Trump’s campaign co-chairman in the state, said the reaction to Trump’s proposal fit the pattern of his campaign: First outrage, then a realization Trump hit the nail on the head.

“He’s always one step ahead of all the other politicians in pointing out a problem. And everybody’s outraged. And then all of a sudden they start analyzing what he said and realize, ‘Oh my god, he’s right,’ ” he said.

“I think it’s a fabulous idea,” Stepanek said. “Because our system is broken and what has happened in San Bernardino is an example of a tip of the iceberg.”

___

An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released last week found that at 57 percent, a solid majority of Americans, oppose Trump’s proposal. A CBS News poll also found nearly six-in-10 Americans opposed the ban, with two-thirds saying it goes against the country’s founding principles.

But Republicans are far more receptive; 54 percent voiced support for the ban in the CBS poll.

During a 29-person focus group made up of mostly Trump supporters in a suburb of Washington last week, just eight participants said they disagreed with Trump’s proposal. Seventeen raised their hands when asked if they agreed.

Republican pollster Frank Luntz, who led the group, said in his 23 years in the business, he’s never seen a phenomenon quite like Trump.

“He defies every assumption that was laid out,” Luntz said. “He has created or found the magic formula. And he has been using it more successfully than anyone — including me — ever imagined.”

___

While Trump has brushed back criticism, including from some Republicans, that his idea smacks of bigotry, some of his backers take that charge personally.

“I felt like I’m being insulted,” said Edwards, the banker from Iowa. “I’m feeling strongly about my country and I feel attacked when they’re going against him in that way.”

Others saw it as a badge of honor.

“Being compared to Hitler is how you know you’ve reached the apex,” said Gary Hopper, 58, of Bedford, New Hampshire.

At Cannon’s restaurant in Greer, South Carolina, not too far from Rosie’s hot dog stand, manager Tammy Holcombe argued “everybody’s getting too offended by this.” Another Cannon’s employee, 50-year-old Wayne Weathers, chimed in: “The drive-by media says everybody’s a racist who supports Trump. That’s ridiculous.”

Holcombe said she doesn’t have a problem applying a religious test to visitors, immigrants and refugees.

“I’m a Christian, and they’re all against that, so why not?” she said, adding that the U.S. leaders should “man up, grow a backbone and quit worrying about the little things and focus on the big picture of everything, not just immigration.”

“I know we all came from somewhere else,” she added, “but this is a different time now.”

Back at Rosie’s, Hooker made a point to say that among her hundreds of Facebook friends, “a few of them are Muslims. One’s even an atheist.”

But she said she’d be willing to bar American citizens who are Muslim and travel outside the country from returning home — a position that goes far beyond what Trump has proposed.

“Look, if I let you borrow my shoes from my house, when you bring them back, I’m not going to bring them back in until I reassess and see what I’ve got,” she said.

___

Among some Trump supporters, even those who agree with his proposal, there are some concerns — usually about how the bombastic former reality TV star is selling his ideas.

“I agree with him, mostly,” said Greg Spearman, 46, who owns an electrical firm in Greer. “But there’s certainly a better way to say it.”

Still other backers said they simply don’t take Trump’s plan at face value. Some argued he was deliberately trying to provoke the media in search of attention, while others said he was simply trying to raise an alarm and would take a more measured approach if he makes it to the White House.

Trump himself as even suggested his proposed ban was intended to stir up reaction: “Without the ban,” he said Sunday, “you’re not going to make the point.”

Billy Montplaisir, a 27-year-old maintenance worker who lives in Weare, New Hampshire, said that he likes “everything about” Trump — but nonetheless felt uncomfortable with the proposal. He worried it would play into the hands of Islamic radicals and risked turning the “good ones against us.”

“The Muslim thing, that kind of blew me out,” Montplaisir said. “He kind of went a little overboard there.”

Still, Montplaisir is sticking with Trump and plans to vote for him when New Hampshire holds the first primary of the campaign in a few weeks.

“I like how he’s just up front,” he said, “and doesn’t care what people think.”

Colvin reported from New Hampshire and Iowa.

84 responses to “Trump backers baffled by criticism of his Muslim proposal”

  1. mikethenovice says:

    Republicans love to bash people. That strategy always backfires.

    • Ronin006 says:

      The “novice” in your name says it all. Novices should not be trying to make sensible comments or engage in adult conversations.

      • thos says:

        The Donald is performing a very valuable service to the GOP: trash removal. This now unfolding RINO-cide campaign is long overdue. This is a battle for the soul of the party. Conservatives have long realized they are held in contempt by the big money east coast establishment “Republicans” and now they have a sword they can wield.

        • choyd says:

          So they’re backing someone who flips flops on positions more than “I will say anything to be President” Romney and Bill “The Waffle” Clinton combined? Someone who is long time chummy pal with Queen Hillary? Someone who’s at best a lukewarm Christian? Someone who literally pals around with terrorist financiers?

          Donald isn’t even a Conservative. Donald is an opportunist who is mining low information loudmouths like you for publicity and money.

        • Keonigohan says:

          So safe to say you are a Hillary LIAR Clinton?

        • thos says:

          Yo! Choyd!

          The fact that The Donald has quite obviously gotten so thoroughly under your skin that you could not now pass a saliva test – – completely unraveling, resorting to childish name calling – – means he is the PERFECT instrument for some long delayed vengeance.

          Though you did not mean to, you have made my day. WHOOPEE!

        • kuroiwaj says:

          Thos, fully agree with your post. It’s also very true in Hawaii. On the subject, we know President Obama and his administration support the Muslim community and refuses to identify and challenge the fringe Radicalized Muslims. The Democrats are holding firm, even when Americans are murdered and wounded by Radicalized Muslims.

        • choyd says:

          Thos, you are a complete joke. Nothing you replied with is even remotely relevant to my pointing out that Trump is playing you for a fool.

          Only you would praise a chummy friend of Queen Hillary and a dear friend to terrorist financers as what we actually need.

        • thos says:

          Yo! Choyd!
          “Thos, you are a complete joke.”

          Childish name calling is not going to solve your fundamental problem. But HEY if you don’t mind dropping trou in a public forum this way, be my guest. You are far more amusing than a cast iron bull dog.

        • choyd says:

          Funny how you keep personally insulting me Thos, but you can’t address my points.

          Wonder why that is?

          I won’t even bother asking you again how the poster child of special interest, a person who literally pals around with financers of Islamic terrorism and a long time friend of Queen Hillary is somehow what we need.

          Because you won’t answer. You never answer. You always run from hard questions. Because that is what you do. Time and time and time again.

    • Keonigohan says:

      Tell that to 14 MURDERED INNOCENT VICTIMS…TERRORIST wahine was VETTED 3 TIMES…she said on social media she is with the jihadist and she is one too. DHS Jeh Johnson had a guideline to PROHIBIT SOCIAL MEDIA in the VETTING process! WHO gave Jeh Johnson that protocol? BACKFIRE is on you MIKETHENOVICE!

  2. Pocho says:

    The people who talk about it as being “hate” are the people who know how to Hate! Did not Donald explaing it’s not about Religion but for the security of the USA? The Republican Party are FOOLS! It’s reported they are seeking a way to deny Trump the candidacy behind closed doors if leading the Party and yet they argued to have The Donald sign his oath to the Party!

    • inverse says:

      If Trump said crack down on immigration, that is one thing almost everyone can agree on, but to say ban all muslims is the same line of thinking as the neccessity to intern all AJA s during WW2. Trump’s statement also only antangonizes moderate Muslims in the US and around the world to not support and fight muslim extremists and will be used as a rallying point for muslim extremists to further attack and kill innocent Americans such as in San Bernadino, Ft Hood and Boston. If Trump wins the Repub nomination, almost all non-Causcasian voters will vote for Hillary, despite all the negatives against her, just as how almost all non caucasian voters voted for Obama to defeat Romney. Trump does not even pretend to hide his racism as he spoke with that Asian american Harvard student when he asked ‘where were you born”. For those that support Trump because some think ‘he gets it’ you will win the battle but lose the war in the Repub retaking the white house. But that is par for the people motivated by racism who cannot see anyone else’s view point except themselves. Trump has tapped in to people’s fears and the inner tendencies of the likes of Michael Richards, Paula Dean, Dog the Bounty Hunter and Mel Gibson and that is disturbing in 2015 that so many have NOT learned the lessons of WW2

      • Pocho says:

        What can’t you and many understand what The Donald has explained on his comments. It’s not about Religion but for the protection of the US motherland. The immigration, visas, etc. system is broken! Read the news who the Twin Towers executors were, how Farroks wife came to the US and probably of the sleeper cells in the US. He made it sound like it’s only against Muslim but it aint’. Paul Rand has the same view but just used different words on his ban of people from 34 countries entering the US.

      • Pocho says:

        On another topix, What don’t you believe of the Muslim Religion: Women 2nd class humans, the right to lie for the betterment of the Religion, Sharia and all the fighting in the MidEast, etc.? You would hope all these Muslims come to America to live under the Constitution and “not” under their terms behind closed doors. You and many others are wanting to be PC before even thinking of the safety of the US motherland and it’s citizens. Insane, look at the troubles of Britain, France, etc. because of the Syrian exodus. The having to keep tabs on supposed terrorists and ISIS sympahtizers. As been reported the US has Muslim/Islamist wanting to live by Sharia, they sympatized with ISIS, etc.. How could anyone turn a blind eye to that Religion? The key here is opening up and Westernizing the Muslim/Islam Religion. There may be Muslim/Islam leaders in the US with plans to change America sympatizing with the ISIS or even moreso in fear of denouncing them making themselves targets. But yet wanting to change America

        • seaborn says:

          Don’t let any religious people into the U.S. You never read, or hear, of an atheist shooting up a school, bombing a hospital, or other nonsense. Religion is the problem.

      • thos says:

        In the first place most of those interned were not AMERICANS of Japanese Ancestry, but citizens of Japan working in America whose primary loyalty remained with their Emperor.

        In the second place you do an enormous injustice to actual AJA youth who volunteered to risk their lives to defend America. It is no accident that the 442nd Regimental Combat Team took the highest casualties and earned the most awards for valor. Do not for an instant imagine a groundswell of that sort of patriotism arising from American muslims at large, other than those now serving on active duty. And, sad to say, Ft. Hood that not all of those can be trusted in today’s ambience of ultra politically correct, egg shell walking senior general and flag officers, afraid to open their mouths to support their troops and defend them against half wits and traitors attempt to fob off Islamic terror to “work place violence.”

        • Pocho says:

          I don’t know how some Politicians even could compare the Japanese who volunteered to serve the US in it’s War with Japan.

  3. HanabataDays says:

    “When you’re in war, you have to take steps that are not American”

    As if we need more proof that the terrorists have already won.

    • Pocho says:

      It’s not even about that! Try listening to The Donald. Your mind is twisted

    • choyd says:

      The terrorists won a long, long, long time ago. Look how many on the fringe right here have no regard for the COTUS, or anything America stands for. Winston, Thos, Ronin, Keong and many others ALL are ready to burn everything we believe in for a false sense of security.

      • klastri says:

        They are cowards. The cowardice on the right is really shocking.

      • Pocho says:

        who knows, maybe Terrorists in Republican’s clothing?

      • DowntownGreen says:

        The same people who rant about President Obama “ignoring” the Constitution are the ones listening to the carnival barker spew his unconstitutional rubbish… and then defend him. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so dangerous.

        • saveparadise says:

          Jack Nicholson said “You can’t handle the truth”. That was a great movie. People are torn between their patriotism and their morals. This is very personal to each individual. Are you ignoring those that want to defend our borders and ridiculing them for protecting the very rights your are voicing? Think about it everyone.

        • DowntownGreen says:

          @saveparadise: I distrust ANYONE that will so willingly sacrifice the Bill of Rights for a false sense of “security”.

        • saveparadise says:

          @DG, There is NO ONE in this world that you can trust till a moment of truth arrives. Who will give their life for you or defend your borders to keep your children safe? There are so many willing to take your life as well. We are actually at war. The Bill of Rights is nice to have but we have an enemy that could care less. This is a war like no other. The enemy is not in uniform and we do not know who they are till they pick a time and place of their choice. The Bill of Rights is not an insurance policy for the future of our children unless we act to deter the enemy best we can.

        • DowntownGreen says:

          The Bill of Rights is the foundation of who we are as a nation. You may be willing to throw it our the window based on what the politicians and media tell you (or want you to know), but I am not.

      • thos says:

        “The terrorists won a long, long, long time ago.”?

        Your enthusiasm for raising the white flag defines you. In the early part of the last century an American patriot would have handed you a white feather in public, that others might know who you really are.

        • choyd says:

          The irony of your post is beyond the ability of man to measure. It is you who has waived the white flag on our morals, our dreams and our ideals.

          You keep treating the COTUS as it if was nothing but toilet paper. The terrorist have won a long time ago because you and people who share your twisted ideology have abandoned all of America’s ideals and principles for a false sense of security.

          Every post you make on this subject shovels another load of dirt on the grave of the American Dream.

        • thos says:

          Choyd, don’t for one minute assume that YOU are the American Dream. And that dirt that is now raining down on you is from the edge of the pit you have dug for yourself. But HEY. Don’t let that stop you from digging even deeper.

        • choyd says:

          Oh look, more personal insults from Thos that attempt to change the topic away from what he failed to address in the first place.

  4. Windward_Side says:

    Gruber reminds us of “The stoopidity of the American voters”. If you believe all the spin, then you deserve to live in a world of ignorant bliss.

  5. gary360 says:

    It appears that Trump is following the Japanese lead. They don’t allow muslims in their country. Have you ever heard of a terrorist attack (by a muslim group)in Japan? I haven’t.

    • klastri says:

      Your point might make sense if you were not lying. Japan does not even ask about religion on immigration documents. Let me take a wild guess that you support Mr. Trump? It might help the discussion if you would stop lying.

      • choyd says:

        Because the low information, lowly educated Trump backers live in their own bubble and can’t research on their own.

        I’ve filled out immigration papers several times in route to Japan or at customs. There is no box for religion.

        Gary is either lying or is a low information voter suckered by Trump.

        • klastri says:

          Even for this crowd, the ignorance is remarkable.

        • thos says:

          How sweet it is that The Donald has cognitively challenged munchkins like you marinating in your own juice! He gives a little twist of the swizzle stick and you all unspool faster than a roll of out house toilet paper in a high winds.

          No wonder his poll numbers remain so high.

          (Chortle, chortle) DOOOO by all means keep up your amusing banter.

        • choyd says:

          Does it surprise anyone that Thos is defending no information people or liars?

          Hey Thos, show me Japanese immigration papers that have a religion box.

          You can keep insulting me, but when I challenge you, you always, I repeat, ALWAYS, run.

  6. klastri says:

    I’m not sure why anyone would be surprised that Trump supporters are ignorant of the Constitution and law. They are low and VERY low information people. Trump panders to cowards and the ignorant. Plenty of them comment here!

    • MoiLee says:

      To the Ignorant “Very LOW information crowd’….Is this a “Give me a Mirror Moment”.Huh Klastri?? Donald’s got this one RIGHT! GO Donald !All the way to the White House! He’s my Guy!
      Here’s what he said. Our President and Congress are Not protecting us ! “Let’s PAUSE ,and see who these Muslims are’. The present Vetting process is not working! It’s not an OUTRIGHT Muslim BAN! Get it! Got it …good. It’s the WORDING, “Muslims” y’all are riding on! You guys know what he means, no body is that stupid! For us “Low information” people like me? I also ,KNOW that President Jimmy Carter BANNED IRanians from coming here and even deported thousands of them… Remember that? or Purposely left out? & What religious background we they? ……Muslims? Yes!Donald Trump IS Spot on! When it comes to this:”The United States is run by “Stupid & Incompetent people”.

      • choyd says:

        Carter did no such thing. Here is the actual text of what Carter’s announcement said:

        “Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.”

        Thus, economic sanctions, but open for refugee and medical or where the administration deems useful. You clearly never bother to research anything on your own.

        • btaim says:

          “You don’t know if they like us. You don’t know if they hate us,” said Hooker, 47, of Greer, South Carolina. “You don’t know why they’re here.” Well, couldn’t this be said about a number of people of ANY race, culture, religion, or country of origin? Are we to ban anyone from anywhere from entering the country?

        • btaim says:

          Thank you for using FACTS.

      • klastri says:

        You are lying of course. But that’s what you do.

        • choyd says:

          I’m not sure they are lying as so much as completely being unable to read anything other than what Fox and Breitbart tells them. People like Moi live in their own little bubbles and never seek any information from a source that doesn’t toe their ideological line. So it’s not that they are lying, they simply live in an echo chamber where none of their beliefs ever get challenged. Hence why Moi never replies here. He just spams his soapbox and never comes back to read rebuttals.

        • saveparadise says:

          YOU are a coward and a troll. Is this a lie? Prove me wrong.

        • thos says:

          Yo! Choyd! Before whining about one who “never replies”, hows about you explaining why YOU don’t reply to some of the offering above aimed at you, HMMMMMMMMM?

          Guess it’s a lot easier to indulge in childish name calling than face facts, eh?

        • choyd says:

          Well, Thos, considering that nothing you posted is factual and most if it personal insults, there’s really not much to reply to.

          I’ve already challenged you to show that Japanese immigrationm forms have a religion box. I already know you’re going to run away from that because you always run away from every challenge you’ve ever had in your entire life.

          Furthermore, if you’re replying to my posts at 1 am in the morning, it’s fairly dishonest to claim I don’t respond. I don’t live on this website like you d.

        • hawaiikone says:

          You don’t live on this website? 19 posts so far, as compared to Thos’ 6. You’re hilarious.

        • choyd says:

          Hey Thos, are you going to show me where the Japanese immigration papers have a religion box?

          Or are you going to fail again and yet still claim I don’t respond to accusations?

        • choyd says:

          hawaiikone, you can have that. Why? because that is the only thing you can win points on. You’ll never refute anything else I say, so I’ll be charitable. When all my opponents are left with is nitpicking, I’ve won the war. Nitpick all you want. You will never win any substance fight with me. Ever.

          FYI, Winston posts late at night or early in the morning and expects me to reply. Yeah, no, that ain’t happening.

  7. bsdetection says:

    Alternate headline for this article: “Trump Backers Baffled By U.S. Constitution”

  8. Cellodad says:

    I must admit that the headline provided me with an unseemly chuckle about a very serious topic. It’s apparent that there are quite a few things that baffle Trump supporters.

    • klastri says:

      Yes. Like the law. And the Constitution. And common sense. When asked by Trump how this policy would work, he said that people at entry points would be asked what their religion was and if they said Muslim, they would be turned around. Nothing about the mechanics of how that could work. Nothing. His supporters seem to think that ridiculous plan actually makes sense. This is serving to illustrate exactly who is supporting him and what imbeciles they are.

      • saveparadise says:

        Please take your meds klastri. Your profile is that of a terrorist or a shooter in a cafeteria. Find some other way to vent before you explode. The “I’m alright you are not” reflection is not healthy.

        • choyd says:

          Relying entirely on personal attacks rather than addressing his points suggest you don’t have an argument and that you have emotional problems with having your ideology challenged.

  9. wrightj says:

    Does anyone really think we can stop terrorism?

    • choyd says:

      Especially when the leading Republican candidate openly advocates for its use? Terrorism is a method to which the US has openly used on its own. Those Afghanistan night time raids? That’s effectively terrorism. Drone death from above attacks? Terrorism. We are terrorizing the terrorists. The notion that we can defeat a method of combat that doesn’t have any required tactical aspects is insane. This isn’t like trench warfare to which technology can defeat. Obama is basically our terrorist in chief when he orders drone strikes on unsuspecting terrorists in Pakistan. And it works. So much that many Taliban have fled as they are afraid of being bombed in their sleep.

      • saveparadise says:

        So now Obama is the “terrorist in chief”? But he is inviting the enemy to live among us. Could he just be the Antichrist? Killing abroad and at the same time taking us apart from the inside? Hard to fathom that a lot of Bible and Nostradamus prophecies written so long ago can become truth.

        • choyd says:

          Can I ask what public high school (if any) you went to?

          Because it appears you never learned basic English comprehension.

  10. btaim says:

    “You don’t know if they like us. You don’t know if they hate us,” said Hooker, 47, of Greer, South Carolina. “You don’t know why they’re here.” Well, couldn’t this be said about a number of people of ANY race, culture, religion, or country of origin? Are we to ban anyone from anywhere from entering the country?

  11. amela says:

    I think the Muslim people need to police themselves and notify authorities if the see or hear anything suspicious. This will show their love for the country. It starts with them.

    • klastri says:

      Oh good grief. You need to read a whole lot more. That’s exactly how most of the plots have been interrupted in the United States – by people in mosques informing on those who suggested violence. Please … I’m begging you … start reading.

      • Paulh808 says:

        I didn’t see anything reported on that relating to San Bernadino! I know you have convinced you self how smart you are but, remember you Saps voted and still support the fraud!

        • klastri says:

          Then you weren’t paying attention. That day and for days afterwards, CAIR and local groups held press conferences denouncing the violence over and over. You can be as ignorant as you want – and you have proved for some time that you want it a lot. But don’t project you low standards onto me.

        • choyd says:

          That’s because a requirement to be a extremist fringe card carrying member requires you to never use a search engine to research on your own as well as only reading news from Breitbart or Fox. Hence, you generally only get news from your echo chamber and never independently learn anything on your own.

          Now, rational people can use Google to know that what you said is outright false, but they aren’t card carrying members of the extremist fringe club.

    • bsdetection says:

      Do you think Christians need to police themselves and notify authorities if they see or hear anything about terrorizing clinics that provide Constitutionally protected medical services for women?

  12. Eradication says:

    Mr. Trump is a master at deception. IMO, he doesn’t think he will win the national election but instead stands to make millions, maybe more, from all this hype and free press he is getting to increase his “brand”. Ever notice that when his numbers go down or when one of the other GOP candidates start climbing in the polls Mr. Trump comes out with another crazy idea? Ted Cruz surges in the polls in Iowa, Mr. Trump “bans” Muslim people from entering the country. Everyone goes crazy. The media focuses on him instead of the real politics going on. After the elections Mr. Trump will cash in on his increased notoriety. What a masterful job he and his team has done and millions of Americans are following his lead like brainless sheep that we Americans have become.

    • saveparadise says:

      Trump’s ideas sound logical and not crazy. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So who is crazy and who is insane is debatable. Place your bets and place your votes.

  13. opihi123 says:

    100 % going to vote for Trump and then if he’s out, going for Ted Cruz.. I do not 100% agree with Trump’s style, but compared to the establishment politicians in either party, he definitely has my vote. Hawaii has a majority of liberals who are either low information or on the take.. union members, government employees, welfare suckers, etc..

    • choyd says:

      Yet you want to vote the poster child of special interest into office?

      Here Dracula, take the key to the blood bank.

      • opihi123 says:

        Good point, but better Trump than Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush.. Political scene has swung way too far left, needs to come back to center.. Trump says crazy stuff like banning Muslims or building a wall along Mexico- that sounds great, but I know its impossible.. Still, he captures peoples imagination and that’s what its going to take to effect a change in the political climate.. Like I said, I would be happy to see Cruz get in too..

        • choyd says:

          If you know it’s impossible, why do you back him? He’s openly pandering to the least educated in America or worse, if he believes the things he says, he’s going to be a terrible President. It’s also very clear Trump is winging everything. Furthermore, without Congressional changes, nothing will change. People have asinine notions that the Executive Branch has magical dictatorial powers.

          Trump is in this to gain followers he can then sell stuff to. He is mining you for money. Remember that.

        • thos says:

          Building a wall is hardly impossible. The Israelis have already done it and to good effect.

        • choyd says:

          Not really Thos, I’ve actually been to a part of that wall. What stopped the attacks were agreements with the PLO. There is a reason why PLO police and the Israeli military work together. Agreements like those stopped the attacks, where the wall is just a temporary measure.

          Furthermore, we already have border security being bored out of their mind because there is nothing to do. I already posted dozens of articles on this. Building a wall is a waste of money especially when Mexican immigration is a net loss. But you demonstrate no information, but acute loudmouthness.

          Are you trying to emulate Winston’s stunning ignorance?

  14. Marauders_1959 says:

    Trumps gets my vote !!!!

  15. […] Trump backers baffled by criticism of his Muslim proposal GREER, S.C. » As she’s working the counter at a hole-in-the-wall hot dog stand named Rosie’s in upstate South Carolina, Tracy Hooker isn’t interested in debating the merits of Donald Trump’s proposal to temporarily block Muslims from coming into the United States. […]

Leave a Reply