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Two-way trust is essential to any relationship.
The trouble is, Honolulu lacks credible HPD leadership. The clown chief lacks the intellect or experience to lead any police department and lacks credibility among police officers and the public. Terrible choice by a past Mayor.
It is easy to criticize leadership but not all leaders can be like Nakamura. (police chief years ago)
I think that was his name. He tried to make officers more friendly.
Getting rid of the divisive racist in the white house will be the best first step, not getting cops to walk a beat.
We finally got rid of that racist almost 8 years ago. Now racism is firmly entrenched in the republican house and senate.
Stopped with your retoric, it people like you why the Washigton is so polorized!
Who? Kekela right?
And in the “White” House.
Thoughtful editorial, but let’s not pretend that someone accidentally killed while resisting arrest or police questioning is in any way morally equivalent to a murderous rampage by a deranged individual or group.
Accidentally Killed? When two or three officers are on top of a man, and the man is shot point blank, well that is hardly accidental. That is like a real drunk plowing into a bus full of crippled children is an accident. It is not.
Peter (Boots), I believe you have never been in a situation that you could lose your life. If you didn’t drink, got real drunk and drove, the crippled children would not get hurt in the bus the drunk plowed into. Also, if an officer on top of a man who were reported to have a gun, and during the arrest receives a warning from another officer that the man is reaching for his gun, you protect yourself and shoot. Yes, I’m a infantry combat veteran that had the mind set in combat to stay alive and to protect the men around me. For me, that man being arrested should never had a gun.
And the motorist shot in Minneapolis also reportedly had a (permitted) gun tucked between his legs while driving.
“a lone sniper, who was black, killed five officers in Dallas”
SA cannot bring itself to accurately report the incident. Why leave out the word ‘WHITE” between “five” and “officers”. That is the whole point, right?
Grow some journalistic courage, or get out of the game.
Yes this was an angry black man who killed 5 white officers. This can be referred to as blow back. Question is what is society going to do about it? Clamp down more and hire more police or work on improving the police force to reduce if not eliminate racism? I know clamping down without addressing underlying racist attitudes will only result in more blow back.
Are you saying this was okay?
Peter (Boots), pls grow up. You advocate legalizing marijuana and the Federal Governments list marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug. Are you now advocating for hiring more police officers, and advocating for reducing and eliminating racism. Isn’t it difficult when Hawaii’s born President Obama position is to support racism and reduce hiring police officers. Pls listen to his words.
Actually one was Mexican and another Hispanic mix.
Sorry I have to question your statement: “The public cannot judge or broadly characterize a police force merely by the actions of a very few, rogue officers.”
How do you know these actions are only by a few roque officers? How do you know it is not the culture in the department that gives rise to such shootings? Perhaps if the press had really investigated past police killings, perhaps something would have been done earlier to fix it. But it seems it has only been since cell phones and video evidence of police misconduct, that this issue is getting any press.
Yes being a police officer is tough work, but police rush to violence should never be tolerated. This is not the old Soviet Union. One place to start is to get rid of military equipment in police departments.
Obviously, you don’t know the answer to the questions, either way. You make the judgement about the “rush to violence” as though you do know the answer to the questions. That’s called prejudgement. It’s the thing that your president has done repeatedly, without evidence, without hearing both or multiple sides of the story, without giving the justice system a chance to work, making the racial climate only worse while neither identifying the problem or offering solution.
Waiting in traffic to get to the Stadium, our son climbed out the back of our pick-up to walk up ahead to see what was the hold up. We eventually caught up to him at the intersection. Our son then stepped off the curb to climb back into our truck, when the HPD officer “controlling” the traffic at that intersection charged at our son and tackled him to the ground – for “jay-walking”. Had it not been a busy UH football game – which had tons of witnesses – this cop would have beat our son – for “jay-walking”. It took other people and officers to calm the cop down. Our grandson witnessed the whole thing. He’s 6. He thinks cops are bad guys because of what this one cop did to his dad.
Cop probably still had ‘roids pumping in his system a couple hours after his MMA/Thai fighting class and was itching to get into a confrontation. Sadly, that seems common with so many cops these days.
Whatever happened to de-escalating, using simple human-to-human interaction and saying a few words? Would have bought a LOT of goodwill and your grandson would probably now be thinking most cops are “cool guys” that he needn’t fear!
Policing is a thankless task that exposes the individual to the most negative and depressing aspects of society at many times, subsequently building a negative and jaded outlook by the officers that it’s “we, the police versus EVERYONE”. HOWEVER, if one goes into the profession not thinking about that and not being prepared to fight that sort of negative attitude, then one needs to consider another line of work.
A) I agree that police should be supported by the community through cooperation and positive daily interaction.
B) I don’t agree that policing is a “higher calling or noble profession”. Nowadays it’s a mere job with bennies and some fun perks like carrying a gun and wearing a badge that gives some with weaker character the ability to bully others.
C) The police, in many cases, have a negative reputation and lack of support because everything negative they do or every proposal (like body cams) brought up is FOUGHT tooth and nail by a rich and politically connected UNION that is against progress and accountability.
D) The police is relying too much on recruiting former military (and all the baggage that comes with it), non home-grown (LOCAL) individuals and young, non life experienced individuals to fill personnel slots hoping eventual attrition and continual recruitment will balance out. Terrible formula.
Overall we are lucky in HNL compared to other major American cities with serious, entrenched social/racial issues but we could be so much better.
Sorry, HPD are getting good applicants who couldn’t pass the HFD test! Thats a good thing. Firefighters would be horrible at police work! :))
Bdpapa, a number of years ago FACE attempted to find out why so many young men and women were not selected for HPD. We held a meeting with the Chief and were informed nearly all the men and women who did not get selected for HPD because they could not pass the test and the sad part a huge majority (90%) were Public School graduates.
Was that in the late’70s or even earlier. I remember that. Thank goodness for the G.I. Bill, a lot of us got a chance!
Kuro, if the public school kids can’t pass HPD then they should join the military like you guys. That way they can get life experiences without being too smart.
NanakuliBoss, the results were similar with the military, where 70% of the public school graduates attempting to get into the military failed the military test. It’s very sad. Oh, I was associated with a union apprenticeship program and had difficulty with many of the public school graduates in reading a scale, required in construction. We conducted remedial classes before they could enter the program. Sad.
Interesting how HPD is the only Hawaii police dept doing absolutely nothing about getting bodycams going here. All other islands are moving on this. Here is an article from PoliceChief.org that points out how bodycams PROTECT the policemen AND the departments. HPD would rather continue paying fines and defense charges.
One of the best editorial written with references of strengthening ties between police and the public! It addresses recent history, solutions, motivation, support and compassion! Mahalo !