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Kakaako 'workforce housing' condo tower approved

By Andrew Gomes

LAST UPDATED: 01:27 a.m. HST, Dec 05, 2013

A state agency approved a developer's plan Wednesday to build a 410-unit "workforce housing" condominium known as 801 South St. Tower B at the Ewa end of Kapiolani Boulevard.

The board of the Hawaii Community Development Authority, the agency regulating development in Kakaako, voted 6-0 to allow the project proposed by developer Downtown Capital LLC led by Marshall Hung.

Tower B is the second phase of 801 South, where construction is underway on an initial tower with 635 units.

Both towers are aimed at moderate-income buyers under HCDA "workforce housing" rules.

Prices for Tower A units range from $250,000 to $500,000. Prices for Tower B range from $329,400 to $692,300.

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bruddahcy wrote:
great news for our keiki who need housing in the future. those who protest it already have their homes and don't want others to have theirs. selfish...
on December 4,2013 | 01:27PM
True dat, bruddahcy. To expand, I fear for our kids and grandkids when their turn comes to buy a house or condo. As hard as it is to afford any type of housing nowadays, the future abilities of our keiki will be greatly diminished as the years go by. There are other obvious reasons to reject the project as in added traffic and congestion, but selfish is a major contributor.
on December 4,2013 | 01:32PM
postmanx wrote:
Prices for Tower A units range from $250,000 to $500,000. Prices for Tower B range from $329,400 to $692,300. I wonder how many work force people can afford theses prices.
on December 4,2013 | 05:49PM
aomohoa wrote:
If not maybe it's time to move to the Mainland. If everybody stays here we will have no land left only buildings. It won't be paradise anyway.
on December 4,2013 | 07:42PM
copperwire9 wrote:
Go right ahead.
on December 4,2013 | 08:17PM
hawaiinui wrote:
Truth is postman, that "work force housing" actually means "FORCED to work" housing where two wage earners are needed and the latch key kids go to hell in a basket. Come on people, this is just another mainland money investment that benefits "foreign" money and not the local folks who want to reside in areas of green grass (be it ever so limited) and less congestion. HCDA and the administration (both city and state) appointed directors there are so wrong in allowing this to have happen in this area. But, hey, everyone there has a moral compass and obviously they may not and have simply lost their bearings.
on December 5,2013 | 03:41AM
false wrote:
So……..where all the keiki going to school? LOL Need housing? I thought that's why the mayor approved koa ridge? What about D.R. Horton development and other in Kapolei.? Oh well, they know what's best for all of us.
on December 4,2013 | 02:00PM
PMINZ wrote:
Yep ! where Da school? Plus since we already have a lacking of enough Water, where all Da Extra Water going to come from? What we going Drink Sea Water?
on December 5,2013 | 07:09AM
PMINZ wrote:
Our Keiki Will Not be able to afford this Housing!
on December 5,2013 | 07:05AM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
I walked down there for the meeting. The room was full of people from the next door condo wearing silly red shirts and making the same old tired arguments, half of them not even lucid but happy eating donuts and slapping each other on the back and high fives. The union boys showed and - surprise - they were in favor of construction.

There was one kid who challenged the HCDA on the calculation of affordable condo prices and he got slapped down like a government mule for making up numbers. The smart money was present and testified in favor of this project which is one of the few that are reasonably priced and built for Hawaii working people not super rich foreigners and investors.

It was really clear that most of the people against this (NIMBYs) were really there because the new condo will be about 160 feet away from their unit and they don't like that. Big win for the developer. Bet it sells out in under a week.

on December 4,2013 | 01:32PM
false wrote:
How dare those bugga's take on the developers and unions. Shame on them.
on December 4,2013 | 02:02PM
hawaiinui wrote:
I would bet a dime to a dollar that the vast majority of those "redshirts" don't live in the area, don't have the slightest inclination to ever live in the area and flat will never be able to afford buying a unit in the area. Plain and simple. But you know how that goes, what the Masta says, you gotta do.
on December 5,2013 | 03:46AM
false wrote:
To the "Redshirts", a hardy har har and I hope you'll enjoy watching your new neighbor's TV from your lanai.
on December 4,2013 | 03:02PM
MKN wrote:
@bruddahcy: The problem with your statement is over half of those apartments in that proposed project aren't affordable by a typical family. While some of those units meet (barely) the affordability standards, a lot of them are priced above those standards and that doesn't include maintenance fees. Foreign buyers/investors are having a field day buying up these units as investment properties and when they sell them, they will do so at a significant profit and at a price point that most people won't be able to afford.
on December 4,2013 | 01:34PM
Wazdat wrote:
Now dat is da truth
on December 4,2013 | 03:04PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
That's flat out baloney, old son. This was covered in detail at the meeting.
on December 4,2013 | 03:46PM
copperwire9 wrote:
By the time those units flip twice, within a couple of years of initial occupancy, their prices will at least double. Where will that workforce move next? How truly sad this will all turn out to be.
on December 4,2013 | 08:22PM
false wrote:
Seriously did anyone think that it would be rejected.
on December 4,2013 | 01:57PM
false wrote:
Like our rail the money is too big.
on December 4,2013 | 02:05PM
mcc wrote:
The rubber stamp was out again!
on December 4,2013 | 02:59PM
Watergate_Mike wrote:
No description in this article of what the apartments will be--just the pricing revealed. (Typical 1st things 1st attitude) Will these dwellings be 2-bedroom, 1-bedroom, 1-room, or what? More details needed; and if this is all the HCDA was given and they approved? Well, what's new between developers and bureaucrats anyway...?
on December 4,2013 | 02:15PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
I hate any acronym with the word "Authority" in it.
on December 4,2013 | 02:25PM
Maneki_Neko wrote:
on December 4,2013 | 03:44PM
aomohoa wrote:
Good one. LOL
on December 4,2013 | 07:47PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
So maybe u r saying SA is not Star-Advertiser and it is really The Honolulu Star-Authority ???!!!
on December 5,2013 | 12:32AM
Charliegrunt wrote:
Some very valid comments, and a lot of wishful thinking. How many watch the news on TV or read the paper? Water main breaks, road closures, sewage spills, public screaming about pot holes ruining their cars, etc., etc., etc. Yet, whenever new development is discussed, how much serious consideration is given to the infrastructure to support the new development? As in this case, almost NONE. Now let's get the 6 names of the members of the board of Hawaiian Community Authority who voted 6-0 to approve this and as many of their supporters as can be gotten. When they have no water, when their sewage overflows, when they sit in traffic which doesn't move, when they have no electricity, and other things that living requires, let's resurrect these names and ask them where their heads and hands were when they voted.
on December 4,2013 | 03:03PM
mkat wrote:
I dont know why anyone would want to live in Kakaako. I work there and the stink never goes away. There is constant sewer line repair leaving open sewers stinking in the heat, in the rain. I dont know if being up on a higher floor is far enough to get away from it, but you know the "affordable" units are always the lower floors. I doubt this problem is going to get better. Seems to just be getting worse. They need to build the infrastructure to support all this overload of sewage from thousand of new residences and, yes, schools.
on December 4,2013 | 04:04PM
samidunn wrote:
What is workforce housing?
on December 4,2013 | 05:35PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
For the homeless.
on December 5,2013 | 12:32AM
makiki123 wrote:
Give it 5 - 10 years and all of Downtown / Kakaako and the surrounding areas will be in total gridlock all day. With more and more developments on the way, it might even be sooner.
on December 4,2013 | 06:25PM
basbas wrote:
Little do they realize all these projects are creating the next glut of condos. Buy them later when they are sold at distressed prices. The island population is only so big, and the foreign owners won't be living in the units.
on December 4,2013 | 07:11PM
entrkn wrote:
Some city officials are sure gonna have a Very Merry Christmas this year... and all those Kakaako residents who loved having that view will love looking at these buildings instead... and all those "normal" people who were looking forward to actually affordable housing opportunities in those buildings will just have to keep on hoping that one of these days something else will come up... Merry Christmas Everyone!
on December 4,2013 | 07:12PM
awahana wrote:
So now what happens to the newspaper bldg?
This report doesn't mention. But its in the rendition image.
on December 4,2013 | 08:56PM
HonoluluHawaii wrote:
The newspaper building will be saved on the first two ground floors as a Museum Piece. Structural Engineers love to design exotic structures that have high first stories (which incidentally are not good in Earthquake Zones), however are great for preservation of historic sites. There is a building in New York City that allows for this.
on December 5,2013 | 12:35AM
ready2go wrote:
Who are the developers for this project and are they using local architec and construction companies? Heard that many of the other proposed condos are not using local architects.
on December 5,2013 | 06:34AM
PMINZ wrote:
These projects are big profits for the developer (monies flow out of the state) good moner for construction people( most that come form out of state - Money flows out) and bought mostly by locals that can not afford the properties ( How many will default?) Most will be bought by non locals. Just like all of the 1990s properties purchased by non Locals. Sort of reminds me of the song 'pave paradise and put up a parking lot' The look and feel of Hawaii goes down the Drain, so many tourists will go somewhere else! not Honolulu. How nany Bankruptcies are in this Accelerated building Frenzy? Sure no where to my affordability.
on December 5,2013 | 07:03AM
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