Man who allegedly threatened girlfriend, kids on Hawaiian flight appears in court
HAWAIIAN AIRLINES
This courtesy photo from 2012 shows a long-range Hawaiian Airlines Airbus A330 passenger jet.
A New York City-bound flight returned to Honolulu after a passenger who had been drinking allegedly threatened to kill his girlfriend, her children, passengers and crewmembers, the FBI said.
According to an FBI affidavit, James August allegedly slapped a female flight attendant’s shoulder and threatened his girlfriend.
The captain of Tuesday’s Hawaiian Airlines Flight No. 50 decided to turn the plane around for the safety of occupants, the court document said.
Trouble started before the flight took off from Honolulu International Airport when a crying 11-year-old boy told a flight attendant “can you please just keep him away from us?” the document said. August’s girlfriend and her three children refused to return to their seats in the same row as him.
A passenger told the FBI August had been drinking before the flight. The affidavit says he tried to order more alcohol and drank some alcohol he personally brought onto the plane.
During the meal service, the girlfriend’s 16-year-old son told a flight attendant August called her a derogatory word, insulted the children, and made life-threatening comments. When the flight attendant asked August to go with her to another part of the plane, he slapped her shoulder with the back of his hand, the document said.
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Flight attendants reported that he yelled, swore and threatened to punch his girlfriend in the face.
Male passengers helped restrain August, the document said.
The plane left Honolulu at about 4:30 p.m. and returned at about 9:30 p.m., said Hawaiian Airlines spokeswoman Ann Botticelli.
A federal judge on Wednesday allowed August to be released to a Honolulu halfway house with certain conditions, including not contacting the girlfriend or her children, Assistant U.S. Attorney Tom Brady said.
It appears August, the girlfriend and children were visiting Hawaii, Brady said.
August’s federal public defender didn’t immediately return messages seeking comment Thursday.
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Lends a new dimension to the meaning of “babooze”. Would not want to be stuck in the same halfway house as this dude, どうもありがとうございます!
nightmare passenger on a long flight
People who become violent when drunk are the worst.
If he stopped drinking alcohol he would still be angry and violent. Only therapy will help anger issues.
Good point
Lock him up. Then send the girlfriend and kids back to New York. Some kind of vacation this was for them. Obviously he can’t handle his alcohol.
Send him to New York too.
Should send him back to New York also. Hawaii residence shouldn’t have to pay to house and feed him.
Don’t blame the alcohol he’s just an a hole. Easy to blame the booze when you screw up.
Just what in the [obscene noun redacted] was this toxic MOTHER OF THREE CHILDREN doing shacked up with a “boyfriend” anyway?
What a self centered, irresponsible piece of [scatological term redacted] she must be!!!
Whatever happens to the perp, Child Protective Services needs to put these mother-victimized children in foster homes soonest. There is something seriously wrong with this woman.
Then again our once decent society has fallen on hard times thanks to the pampered, preachy, pettifogging, preening, pusillanimous, puerile, pretentious, post-war p I s s a n t members the draft dodging, flag burning, dope smoking, veteran cursing Cry Baby Boom cohort who took as their curriculum vitae, “If it FEELS good, do it”.
Creepy misogynist.
You think one who asks women to grow up, have some self respect, conduct themselves with dignity, protect their reputation and concern in this case for setting a good example for her THREE TEEN AGED children is some how a “Creepy misogynist.”
What the [redacted] is the matter with you?
Are you really that insensitive to the damage this self centered pleasure seeking woman is doing to her own children that she would shack up with a ‘boyfriend’? She has probably scarred them for life.
You have some deep seated issues, thos. Y’all need to seek help.
Classy enough to probably be on “assistance” as well while jetsetting the fam.
You bet your sweet [redacted], KonaGolden, I have deep seated “issues”.
I take considerable issue with the entire, irresponsible Cry Baby Boom cohort – – and other sickoes of their degenerate persuasion – – who have de-stigmatized loose women that shack up with “boyfriends” and in so doing inflict irreparable harm on their innocent, vulnerable children . . . whom they blithely have sentenced to lifelong illegitimate b a s t a r d y.
And why?
Because “if it FEEEEEELS good, do it” and to hell with the consequences.
Stop, your personal vitriol, and vindictive hatred towards this mother is downright scary. Y’all need to seriously get clinical help in dealing with this issue. I will pray for you.
Y’all need to seriously get clinical help in dealing with this issue. I will pray for you.
And “Y’all” need to get a grip on the difference between good and evil. If you had a shred of decency you would be praying for a safe home for the innocent, vulnerable children their unfit mother has so abused.
Pretty obvious that Thos’ mom was a door knob who he had an Oedipus complex with. Let it out Thos. We pity you and your stunted growth, but feel free to let it go. Be the drama queen you’ve always dreamed of being….
There’s far too many unknowns surrounding this story to condemn anything other than this guy’s actions while under the influence. Hawaiian did the right thing, although personally I’d prefer seeing disruptive individuals placed between two able and willing volunteers for the duration of the flight. I suppose other concerns would arise, but it’s always a shame the other passengers have to be so inconvenienced.
HIE, one can always tell when you find yourself losing a fact based argument because you are reduced to calling people names.
According to hawaiikone There’s far too many unknowns surrounding this story to condemn anything other than this guy’s actions
What errant nonsense.
It is NOT unknown that this unfit mother was shacking up with a “boyfriend”
It is not unknown that her “boyfriend” was obviously in th habit of mistreating her children (whom she had bastardized)
It is not unknown that despite all this, she decided to go on an extended vacation with this scummy “boy friend” despite his cruelty toward her own children.
Are you really so cold blooded you cannot see this?
What a heartless person you must be.
thos, while I generally support a considerably toned down version of your comments, in this instance you seem fixated on condemning this woman devoid of any actual facts as presented by this article. For all we know, they might be engaged, or just recently acquainted, without her having prior knowledge of the man’s abusiveness while drinking. Your assumption that there’s an illicit relationship involved here may fit your narrative, but hardly qualifies as definitive evidence that warrants your condemnation of her conduct.
Hawaiikone what I’m “fixated” on is the FACT – – not opinion or guess, but FACT – – that this mother of three teen aged and vulnerable children would associate with a “boyfriend” and thus allow her children to be mistreated. In this context “boyfriend” typically means shacking up. They sure as [redacted] aren’t married. This is an unfit mother who deserves to have Child Protective Services come in, do its job, and place those children in homes where they will NOT be abused by a “boyfriend.”
It could be no clearer: she has totally bought into the Cry Baby Boomers’ mantra “If it FEELS good, do it and to hell with the consequences”. She merits condemnation not pity.
“Typically”. Your own word has proven my point. I’ll not argue that circumstances may support your assumptions, yet wouldn’t you agree the Christian perspective suggests granting the benefit of the doubt?
Common decency, which includes Christian perspective demands – – not suggests, DEMANDS – – primary consideration be given to the abused children of this unfit mother.
As for “typically” are you suggesting that a grown woman who has a “boyfriend” is NOT making whoopee with him?
No, I’m suggesting that you’d be better served by emulating the characteristics of He whom we profess to follow. Something about stones comes to mind, as well as another interesting conversation alongside a well..
These wounded children need protection and if that means hurling stones in their defense, so be it.
Agreed to the extent that if evidence should surface revealing a history beyond this singular incident, then protective services would be obligated to intervene beyond the initial separation. Not at all disputing that potential necessity, just your apparent certainty of it.
My lengthy reply was censored by SA.
Let me point any readers curious about Thos’ misogynism to read this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
I’m surprised Thos didn’t try to blame what happened on immigrants, liberals, Obama or BLM, like he usually does. One thing is clear though, Thos’ little tirade does reflect the tweets and rants of his ugly champion – Trump.
Just gotta bring Trump into this-huh?
For months, Thos has been preaching hiw great Trump will be, while he denegrated progressives. He continues with even more vitriol than before.
Thos’ hero, Trump, is a creeper who repeatedly said misogynistic things toward women during the campaign, married a woman barely older than his daughter, and apparently has sexual assaulted numerous women over the years.
How American women and girls will be treated and spoken about in the coming years in on many people’s minds.
DannoBoy , it is not misogynistic to expect women to conduct themselves with modesty, self respect, dignity and enough self control to marry the fathers of their children BEFORE the children are born.
It is called common decency.
Why are you so opposed to having some compassion for the children this unfit mother has wounded in order to satiate her sexual appetite?
So you think it is perfectly all right for a woman with THREE TEEN AGED and impressionable CHILDREN to shack up with a “boy friend”.
What are you, nuts?
How can you read this article and immediately go to blaming the woman? She’s not the one arrested and charged.
Remember before you judge, people can be charming and deceptive in their behavior. Lots of women who believe them, and their families, end up harmed by them. The boyfriends don’t start things off behaving this way immediately.
Keep your judgement.
Kealaula how can you read this article and not have a shred of compassion for the children who have been so egregiously victimized – – actually b a s t a r d I z e d – – by a mother so unfit?
You really must be one cold blooded person.
Poor loser?
thos, you have no idea what the circumstances of this lady and her children are. There are plenty of single mothers out there who are divorcees and widows who want nothing more than to provide for their children and find love. Passing judgement is one thing, but your comments are just plain offensive.
no idea what the circumstances of this lady and her children are.
No idea?
What?
Can’t you read?
She is shamelessly shacked up with a “boy friend” who treats her like [redacted] and mistreats her vulnerable, wounded children to whom she has subjected the consequences of her degenerate behavior.
Take off you blinders and realize who the victims are here – – and largely it is because of the failure of people like you to stigmatize such loose women who put sexual entertainment above the well being of their own children …. BAH, what a cold blooded, heartless villain you must be!
No, thos. That’s not reading, that’s assuming. She’s with a person who was abusive on the plane. You conclusions should not be confused with fact. People who can tell the difference understand.
She shacked up and thereby put her own children at risk.
That is fact not assumption.
Know what? I’m going to leave you alone today. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt that whatever made you this way was probably far worse than what this family went through in just a few hours of flight.
That’s your definition of ‘leaving me alone’?
What a rank hypocrite you are.
Then again, nothing new.
Oh well.
Hopefully this guy becomes someone’s girlfriend in prison.
A Federal judge released him to a halfway house. Wha????
Cheaper for the State!
Exactly! WT?
I think this guy got beat up by male passengers who could not take his BS anymore….. Basically a freebie. Key point, slapped flight crew, who is there for your safety and well being at 37,000 feet, and it was a she. I also think he was so buss up, Feds did not want him. Hope HA sues him as well, along with every passenger that was inconvenienced.
As a desk sergeant, whenever an arrestee came in AND we did not cause the injury, we released, ROR, RPI….. did not want him in our cell block. We learnt that from the Feds.
I wonder if HA will ban this guy for life like Delta did to the Trump guy?
Yes they can, just like tresspassing in any other business .
This clown should have been locked up at the Federal Detention Center and not in a halfway house. I bet he would have been straighten out in a few hours.
How come only the “male” passengers were allowed to restrain the man. Why weren’t any female passengers allowed to restrain the man? This is sexist and should not be allowed to happen again. I am embarrassed by my airline.
Most women wouldn’t be that much help. Men have the natural size and strength compared to women
obviously this is not the first time anyone has been threatened by this person. While the fact is that this woman needs to protect herself and her children from him, he more than likely threatened to do irreparable harm to mother and children. The problem may be that she doesn’t want to have to leave her children to seek help for all of them. Fear has already been instilled in these children and this woman needs to find resources to get her and her children to safety. NOW! If this does not happen yesterday, he probably will end up killing them. It’s a very sad cycle of domestic abuse.
the fact is that this woman needs to protect herself and her children from him
The “fact” is she should never have debased herself in the first place – – and thereby done irreparable harm to her impressionable children – – by shacking up with him or any other “boyfriend”.
Fear has already been instilled in these children and this woman needs to find resources to get her and her children to safety. NOW! If this does not happen yesterday, he probably will end up killing them. It’s a very sad cycle of domestic abuse.
Rubbish! Child Protective Services needs to remove these innocent, vulnerable kids from their unfit degenerate excuse for a mother – – whose grotesquely irresponsible behavior is the prime cause of such domestic abuse. Women who shack up and thereby allow themselves to be treated like feel good furniture, have no standing to complain when they are treated like USED furniture.
Women have all the POWER in the world to demand and command RESPECT by conducting themselves with the dignity, chastity, self respect, and grace of their great grandmothers. When they choose to refrain from the inconvenience of EXERCISING that power and opt for selfish pleasure over virtue, these loose women deserve nothing but contempt.
Since the election, folks who think like Thos and worship Trump are flaunting their inner hate. It’s disgusting.
don’t bring trump into this, its people like you that don’t like trump are flaunting there inner hate.
What is disgusting is your utter lack of common decency, let alone compassion for these victimized children
President-elect Donald Trump’s xenophobic rhetoric didn’t just push his fellow candidates to the right on immigration (in what has become known as the “Trump Effect”). It’s gone beyond the political world and injected itself into everyday life — and, in many instances across dozens of states, in a very violent ways.
Follow the link below to see a map showing documented instances where President-elect Donald Trump, his supporters, or his staff have harassed or attacked Latinos, immigrants, Muslim-American, African-Americans, and other minority and marginalized groups.
See:
http://americasvoice.org/TrumpHateMap/
TO: 64hoo and thos
you said “don’t bring trump into this, its people like you that don’t like trump are flaunting there inner hate. excuuuuse me but it is “THEIR” NOT “THERE”, AND “IT’S” NOT “ITS”. Please, if you are going to post comments, have the decency to use correct grammar. Oh and by the way thos ……… I can see that you were an abused child of a “loose” mother. But that does not give you the right to impose your childhood agony and fear on others. STFU
have the decency to use correct grammar
DECENCY???
How about YOU having the common decency to show some concern for these abused children of an unfit mother?
So far in more than 24 hours no other contributor to this topic has demonstrated even an ounce of concern for the vulnerable kids but have gone out of their way to express pity for this vile woman whose children should be removed by Child Protective Services.
Not to put too fine a point on it but she is NOT the victim. She has made her CHILDREN victims.
All in all most of you seem heartless and cold blooded.
How awful.
Unfortunate that this happened on a long flight. Thank you Hawaiian for having to deal with it.
Really. Thank you Hawaiian. They should have never taken off with this piece of s–t on board
Permanent NO FLY LIST for him.
On Hawaiian. They have cause.
Questions: This okolepuka gets on the plane with alcohol? What? TSA has a cow when you leave a bottle of water (unopened) in your carry-on. Reason: It could be a flammable substance! Duh, hello? This guy should be arrested, charged and convicted for threatening the lives of all the passengers on that flight.
It appears the flight was somewhere in the middle of the distance to the west coast. Why would they make the call to double back, and then resume the flight? A Hawaiian employee, who was on the flight, told me they also had to dump fuel to be able to land. The decision may be for other reasons, but they could have thrown the jerk off the plane in San Francisco. That would have saved hours of inconvenience for the passengers. The domino effect to the passenger who may have missed flights and other connections certainly did happen. Auwe!
Probably Hawaiian Airlines attorneys, CEOs, Security Directors made the call, along with FAA and State. Long run cheaper, quicker response by FBI and Sheriff’s here.
Probably Hawaiian Airlines attorneys, CEOs, Security Directors made the call, along with FAA and State. Long run cheaper, quicker response by FBI and Sheriff’s here.
HEY haolecrab On its way to New York, the plane crosses SFO at about 40,000 feet. Hard to land bro.
Never a dull moment on Hawaiian Air….perhaps they should start training their crews to identify these problems before they get on the plane…..screening people in the holding area.
I am shocked that no one has personal responsibility and accountability. To be fair this guy needs to pay for the jet fuel along with consideration to each passenger that was inconvenienced. he will probably get of lightly with just a prison term. More needs to be done to people who cause flights to return due to their bad behavior.
More needs to be done to people who cause flights to return due to their bad behavior..
THEIR bad behavior?
How about the slut behavior of this unfit mother who shacked up with this snake of a “boyfriend”, thereby subjecting her wounded, scarred for life children to these injuries?
Your comments are offensive to the point I had to comment! Do you personally know this woman? Wow, someone or something must have crawled up your b*tt and died because you are a truly a miserable human being. Unless you know the actual facts about their relationship, keep your assumptions to yourself.
My comments offend you because you have no common decency, let alone compassion for these mistreated kids of an unfit mother.
You really are cold blooded in your willingness to blind yourself to the plight of these vulnerable kids.
hanaboy, I think this situation struck a nerve in thos personal life.
this situation struck a nerve in thos personal life.
D a m n straight it did: that “nerve” is the shock of seeing that no one else in 24 hours has evinced even the slightest concern for these abused children of an unfit mother who sees nothing wrong with shacking up with a “boyfriend” who abuses both her and her children.
To quote, for the benefit of you all, the counsel for the Army in the McCarthy hearings, “Have you at last NO decency?” What the h e l l is wrong with you people? Has our culture really become this vile a cess pit to accommodate all of you for some sort of degenerate swim call?
Geez, when was the last YOU were with a woman? Oh, NEVER. OK, figures. Rant on. An empty can makes the most noise, lol.
Oh goodie! Now we are about to get a lecture on the virtues of shacking up and abandoning any sense of personal responsibility for actions that hurt innocent children.
By all means DO carry on as you present yourself as expert in these matters.
I’ve yet to hear someone suggest emptying our prisons and send everyone to the front line to our wars in the Middle East or where their is a need for foot soldiers. Give them nothing except the clothes on their back! No weapons but their bare hands! Good enough for you thos, and all others wanting to rid of our country of blights?
Did you forget to take your thorazine?
Over here, Nurse Ratchet!
It seem that a lot these disruptive passengers incidents are fueled by alcohol so maybe it’s time that the airlines stop serving or allowing booze to be consumed while in flight…this should reduce this kind of incidents that seems to originate when passengers drink and become unruly……
Let’s give Thos his due. After we cut through much of the noise, he makes a pretty good case against a mother who has obviously made a bad choice in selecting a boyfriend. Her first concern, as he suggests, should have been for the safety and well-being of her children. The fact that her child has taken the initiative to approach the attendants for help says a lot about her capacity to provide a safe environment. She should not have been going on a vacation with this loser, and she should not have allowed him anywhere near her children. Mahalo, Thos, for pursuing your point against all odds.
He is getting his due.
You might want to put that chalice of vengeance down before you poison yourself.
Please accept my apologies, Kimo. A few mins ago I made the mistake of saying no one else cares. I made that mistake because I did not read all the way to your comment.
Sincere thanks for a much needed breath of sanity and decency.
“Let’s give Thos his due.” I agree. Ok, let’s take him seriously at his word and consider the consequences of Thos’ analysis of the problem and his proposed solution.
For those who are still reading this thread, Thos has insisted that people should “conduct themselves with modesty, self respect, dignity and enough self control” and should “marry BEFORE the children are born.” He goes on to insist that anyone who has an intimate relationship outside of marriage (“shacking up”) is “self-centered, pleasure seeking” and unfit to be a parent. He advises that instead, these people should “demand and command RESPECT by conducting themselves with the dignity, chastity, self respect, and grace” of previous generations, and that “When they choose to refrain from the inconvenience of EXERCISING that power and opt for selfish pleasure over virtue,” these “loose” parents “deserve nothing but contempt.” He says such children are “wounded in order to satiate” their parent’s “sexual appetite”.
Thos demands, “Child Protective Services needs to remove these innocent, vulnerable kids from their unfit degenerate” parents, “whose grotesquely irresponsible behavior is the prime cause of domestic abuse.” He says, “Child Protective Services come in, do its job, and place those children in homes where they will NOT be abused.”
Thos professes to be engaged in “fact based argument”, so let’s look at the facts.
1. According to US Census data, 50% of the 60 million children under the age of 13 are currently living with one biological parent and that parent’s current partner. This means that CPS might have to take custody of up to 30 million unfortunate children whose parents failed to meet Thos’ standards for “conducting themselves with the dignity, chastity, self respect, and grace”. Does Thos really think these children will be better off in foster care? Where will we find enough foster homes that would meet Thos’ puritanical standards? Why would Thos demand such an unprecedented and intrusive Big-government action into the most sacred aspect of our personal lives – our children and families? How does Thos think we are going to pay this, more taxes?
2. Being married is no guarantee of safety. Thos must think that marriage would have provided some sort of magical protection for these children. The facts speak otherwise. What is the evidence that the immediate circumstances for these children would be better if this boyfriend, who has a drinking problem and can become abusive, had been their step-father or biological father? In some ways it could be much worse. Many children, are abused by one or both married parents. Being just a boyfriend, their mother has no legal barriers to cutting ties with this man. This would protect them. Even if CPS got involved, this man would have no right to contact the children. On the other hand, if this man was married to their mother, he could have claim for contact with the children. This is certainly the case if he were the biological father. How would this have made these children any safer?
When we examine the Thos’ ranting and raving in the light of facts and common sense, he is exposed as a hypocrite and a misogynist who lashes out at a single parent who was just trying the best she could to get home. The fact is, Thos’ vengeful attack of a woman he has never spoken to about an incident he knows very little about has only served to deflect attention from the individual we know is in the wrong – the drunken man. Thos chooses to ignore the perpetrator’s conduct, yet he has had no problems with his billionaire candidate’s predatory sexual behavior. So much for Thos’ standards for character and fitness.
Thank goodness Thos is not in charge of child-protection policy, because I don’t know how we would be able to deal with the costly, intrusive and unjustified CPS policy he is demanding. Unfortunately, there is someone who share’s Thos’ judgemental, post-factual and uninformed approach to policy-making. Thos’ favorite presidential candidate’s hateful speech follows the same selfish mantra “If it FEELS good, say it and to hell with the facts and the consequences”.
“ He advises that instead, these people should “demand and command RESPECT by conducting themselves with the dignity, chastity, self respect, and grace” of previous generations,”
In your rather pretentious “analysis” you’ve inadvertently stumbled close to the truth, but you misquoted one important word. The word should be “WOMEN” not “people”. That said, your mention of “previous generations” is the key to understanding what is behind the cultural toilet that has been backing up for a bit more than half a century and now runneth over.
Before the arrival of the pampered, preachy, pettifogging, preening, pusillanimous, puerile, pretentious, post-war p I s s a n t members the draft dodging, flag burning, dope smoking, veteran cursing, Cry Baby Boom elite know it alls, there was a code of common decency that demanded young women comport themselves with dignity, chastity, self respect, and grace out of concern for their reputation and their future or face a life of ruin. For that reason they realized that females are created to be the more powerful of the species and they USED that power to help irresponsible, horny boys become responsible men by setting and enforcing STANDARDS of conduct for boys. For that reason they did not shack up with every pendulous richard that happened to amble within eyesight. Instead their power – – before they were convinced to lower themselves to be the “liberated” equal to males in the late 1960s – – was awesome in its ferocity. With nothing but a glance even a young girl could cause the ego of an offending male to wilt like a collapsed soufflé. I know because that happened to me more than sixty years ago when the lesson was burned into me by a girl of my age: ALWAYS stand when a woman enters the room. My not so hot memory is often sieve like but I’ve never forgotten the two second thunderbolt that girl hurled my way and how mortified I was.
For that reason no woman or girl with any self respect would DARE shack up with a man and produce b a s t a r d s out of wedlock for reasons that are now all too apparent as evidenced by the mistreatment of the victimized children in this news story, the direct consequence of an unfit mother who put her own selfish interests above the safety of her own children.
And the curriculum vitae embraced by the Cry Baby Boom cohort that they have bequeathed as their legacy to our overflowing toilet culture? If if FEELS good, do it. That is why today so many grandparents have had to step and raise their grandchildren because their irresponsible, pleasure seeking children bailed out. Doubt that? Ask a public school teacher to share with you some of the bizarre dysfunctional family situations their students have to deal with and all because of the disappearance responsible ADULTS in our cess pit culture.
One thing I learned from Governor Moonbeam during his first term in office: if one would wish to avoid disappointment, he should lower his expectations.
For that reason I have every confidence I have just wasted a lot of time and effort explaining matters that you will assiduously avoid understanding and, frankly will be astonished if you give what I have written any serious consideration. My expectations of you and of most who have contributed to this article are low indeed.
This clown should have not been allowed to board this plane in the first place due to drinking before the flight. Flight attendants needs to know when to identify a flight risks and start asking for volunteers to help with these type of passengers. Where’s the Air Marshal?? Yes, Hawaiian Air should have stop in one of California airports; LAX, SF, etc. to drop off this clown to waiting authorities and police instead of returning back to Honolulu. I hope this clown can handle the half-way house!! And don’t blame it on the alcohol, if you can’t handle it, don’t drink it. Lock up this clown and these kids mother!! Hoping these kids can be put into good and caring homes.
my question, How does this guy get back to New York if he’s on the no fly list?
Start by swiming the first leg of the trip…. Lol…
Who cares? Maybe he can try Matson or one of those cruise ships.
With so many guys boarding airplanes after having a “few” drinks at the airport, next thing you know, all passengers will be required to take a breathalyzer test before boarding. Wait and see…
Every time this happens and a plane needs to turn around or make an unscheduled landing, I ask myself the same question: Why are these troublemakers not billed for the costs of the fuel burned because of their bad behavior? This really needs to happen. That’s a hell of a lot of fuel that the rest of us ultimately pay for because of their stupidity.
Agreed to the extent that if evidence should surface &c &c Not at all disputing that potential necessity, just your apparent certainty of it.
The evidence is right there as plain and “certain” as the nose on your face: This mother of three teen aged (ergo impressionable) children shacked up with a “boy friend” and made the DECISION to go on “vacation” with this piece of scum who abused both her and her children. This vile, unfit mother subjected HER OWN CHILDREN to abuse and why?
Because her primary concern was for her own sexual satisfaction, not the well being of her children.
Why can’t you see the obvious?
Actually that is rhetorical.
I know why.
Like the Cambodian teenagers whom the Khmer Rouge sent to the ‘school of the cruel’ in preparation for the holocaust to follow, you have been so utterly desensitized to this kind of brutality thanks to the Cry Baby Boom elite, you have been rendered numb, deaf and blind to the predicament of these victims.
Stream locus displacement event:
This is in response to hawaiikone who wrote:
Agreed to the extent that if evidence should surface revealing a history beyond this singular incident, then protective services would be obligated to intervene beyond the initial separation. Not at all disputing that potential necessity, just your apparent certainty of it.
thos writes, “I know why…” etc., etc.
Having absolutely no clue as to my personal history, you’ve chosen a pigeon hole characterization as a response. So by all means, cling to whatever rigid biases that have so thoroughly infused themselves into your psyche. It’s of no consequence to me.
On a truly sincere side note, might I recommend “The Social Animal” by Brooks. An excellent and revealing study, that when absorbed objectively, can offer an illuminating perspective of our functional personalities.
Having absolutely no clue as to my personal history,
Absolutely?
That’s a bit over the top. You have given any number of “clues” that you have been thoroughly de-sensitized to the plight of these victimized children and overly sensitized to the “needs of this poor woman” by the dead weight of so many “liberated” (sexually promiscuous, utterly irresponsible) women in what passes for “culture” these days.
For some insights into how cultural de-sensitization works, a truly riveting account by John M Del Vecchio, “For the Sake of All Living Things” is recommended reading, but not for the faint of heart (which may let you out given how close this may cut to the bone in your case):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BBPWBUA/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
In this unflinching and unforgettable epic saga, Del Vecchio re-creates the violence and horror of Vietnam’s parallel tragedy—the Cambodian holocaust—as seen through the eyes of a Cambodian family and the American adviser whose fate becomes irrevocable linked with theirs. A sweeping tale of savagery and survival that pits parents and children against both the North Vietnamese invaders and the unprecedented ferocity of the Khmer Rouge, For the Sake of All Living Things is an unrelenting, ultimately inspiring chronicle of conflict and redemption in the killing fields.