Popular ‘Up and Vanished’ podcast tackles new case
ATLANTA >> Atlanta resident Payne Lindsey set a super high bar with his first “Up and Vanished” podcast focused on a missing Southern Georgia woman, Tara Grinstead.
The exposure his podcast created indirectly led to the arrest of two men charged with her murder. The podcast has been downloaded more than 200 million times, a runaway hit. It led Lindsey to a TV deal with Oxygen.
Lindsey is feeling the pressure to come up with an equally compelling season two of “Up and Vanished.” After sifting through hundreds of candidates of missing person’s cases largely sent in by fans of the first season, he hopes he found his second hit in a tiny town in Colorado.
The second season, which debuted this week in the first of 12 weekly episodes, focuses on Kristal Anne Reisinger, a former Denver resident who disappeared in 2016 shortly after moving to Crestone (population: 146), known as the “New Age Religious” capital of the world. Foul play is suspected.
He was drawn to Reisinger’s personality. “She’s a very unique person,” he said, “She had all these different piercings and tattoos. She was a very energetic person. She had keen sense of the world around her. She was very spiritual. She had psychic abilities. She was into tarot cards.”
Lindsey said he had no problem getting people to talk, a problem he had with Grinstead’s case. It helps that he now has a track record. “I’m not just some guy who has a podcast nobody has ever heard of,” he said. “People were very passionate about getting Kristal’s story out there.”
He liked that this case hadn’t really gotten national coverage, was in a town in the middle of nowhere and featured a woman that didn’t fit the usual template for these types of missing persons cases.
Given the relative paucity of information upfront, he said, “every step forward was some sort of progress.”
Crestone is four hours south of Denver, a small town where drum circles and consuming organic almond milk are the norm.
“It’s a place people go to find spiritual enlightenment,” Lindsey said. “It brings all walks of life and everyone has their own story. Nobody just ends up here. People come here for their own reasons.”
During the first episode, her ex-boyfriend Elijah Guana said Reisinger possessed a keen sense of the world’s energy around her and sought an understanding of the world. Crestone was a great place for her.
“The energies there were amplified,” Guana said. “The earth’s natural energies. She was very sensitive to a lot of things. She was sensitive to the earth, the rocks, plants, people, animals.”
There has been no body found and no confession, he said. It doesn’t appear she just walked away. “Kristal’s family believes Kristal was either murdered or some sort of accident took place,” Lindsey said. “No matter what, this is a homicide case.”
Like during the first season, he has purposely not finished the podcast. He hopes listeners will help advance the story.
This podcast comes on the heels of Lindsey’s partnership with How Stuff Works about the early 1980s Atlanta child murders called “Atlanta Monster.” He spoke extensively with the alleged murderer Wayne Williams, who has been in prison for nearly four decades but denies his guilt.
Williams is imprisoned for charges of murdering two adults, not the 30-plus children that encompass the serial killer case that received national notice at the time it happened.
Although Lindsey never says it during the podcast, he said he is convinced Williams did murder at least some of the children, though not all of them. “At least 15 of those murders probably had nothing to do with him and remain unsolved,” he said. “That’s a true injustice.”
Lindsey is well aware of the pressure to succeed again with this newest podcast but he said it’s primarily self-induced. “I’m still pushing the envelope,” he said. “I’m still raising the bar for myself in this story. I’m trying to tell a bigger, deeper story.”