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He male ku'una kā?

For Saturday, June 29, 2013

Na Kekeha Solis

LAST UPDATED: 03:44 p.m. HST, Sep 25, 2013

Synopsis: What is traditional marriage?


He hihia pekelala nō kahi e kū'ē 'ia ana nā kānāwai o Hawai'i e ho'okapu ana i ka male 'ana, 'o ia ho'i, 'o ke kāne a me ka wahine wale nō nā mea e male kekahi me kekahi. 'O ka mana'o o nā mea ho'opi'i, he 'a'e ia i nā pono kīwila o ke kāne moe kāne, a o ka wahine moe wahine paha ma lalo o ke Kumu Kānāwai o 'Amelika Hui Pū 'Ia.

A ke lana nei ka mana'o o kekahi po'e, e hiki aku ia nīnau i mua o ka 'Aha Ho'okolokolo Ki'eki'e o 'Amelika Hui Pū 'Ia. A he mea maika'i paha ia. 'O nā luna kānāwai ki'eki'e o laila, he akamai ka hapanui, 'a'ole hāiki ka no'ono'o 'ana o lākou a pau. 'Akahi nō a kau 'elua 'ōlelo ho'oholo a ia mau luna kānāwai ki'eki'e. 'O kekahi, ua ho'opau 'ia kahi 'ōlelo pekelala, he māhele no loko mai o ke Kānāwai Kūpale Male o ka makahiki 1996 (DOMA), e hō'ole ana i ke ka'a 'ana aku o nā pōmaika'i i nā kōko'olua, he kāne a he kāne, a he wahine a wahine paha, i male ma ke kānāwai. A 'o kekahi 'ōlelo ho'oholo, ua ho'opau 'ia ke Kumumana'o 8 o Kaleponi, 'o ia ho'i 'o Proposition 8, a i kēia manawa, he hiki ke ho'omau i ka hā'awi 'ana aku i ka laikini male i ke kāne moe kāne, a i ka wahine moe wahine paha.

'O ka mea i pū'iwa ai ka mana'o, ma ia mau 'ōlelo ho'oholo 'elua, he 5 wale nō luna kānāwai kāko'o, a he 4 luna kānāwai hō'ole. A no laila, inā ha'alele paha kekahi luna kānāwai ki'eki'e i ka 'Aha Ho'okolokolo Ki'eki'e, e loli paha ka hopena o kekahi mau hihia e pili ana i kēia nīnau ma kēia hope aku.

A 'o ka mea i 'ano 'ē ai ka na'au, 'o ka po'e kū'ē i ka male 'ana o ke kāne me ke kāne, a o ka wahine paha me ka wahine, he kāko'o lākou i ka ho'okae 'ana. Ma ka hai 'ia 'ana o ke kanaka no ke kūlana hana, 'a'ole hiki ke ho'okae i ka 'ili, a i ka wahine, a i ke kāne paha. A no ke aha lā e 'ae 'ia ai ka ho'okae 'ana i ke kāne a i ka wahine paha ma ka male 'ana?

'O kekahi po'e, 'ōlelo lākou, he mea ku'una ka male 'ana o ke kāne me ka wahine. Inā pēlā, pehea ho'i ka ho'okauā kuapa'a 'ana? He mea ku'una ka ho'okauā kuapa'a mai kahiko mai, 'a'ole na'e i 'ae 'ia i kēia mau lā.

'O ke ku'una 'ana o ka male (o ke kāne a me ka wahine ho'i), 'o ia ihola ka mea e mau ai pēlā? Inā hāiki ka no'ono'o o ke kanaka i kona wā e kamali'i ana, pēlā e mau ai ia hāiki o ka no'ono'o a kaniko'o, a kolopupū, a haumaka'iole, a palalauhala. Inā he na'aupō ke kanaka, e mau kona na'aupō a kona ha'alele 'ana mai i kēia olahonua?

A 'o kekahi, ua 'ōlelo 'ia ma ka male ku'una, he kuleana ko ke kāne, a he kuleana ko ka wahine. Akā, i kēia mau lā, 'a'ole i like ia mau kuleana ku'una. I kekahi manawa, na ke kāne e mālama i nā keiki, a na ka wahine e hele i ka hana. 'A'ohe pilikia o ia.

'O ka hiki i ka wahine ke hānau keiki, 'o ia ke kumu e pono ai ka male 'ana i ke kāne a me ka wahine? Pehea inā 'a'ole hiki i ka wahine ke hānau keiki a hiki 'ole paha i ke kane ke ho'ohāpai i ka wahine? He male ku'una nō ia? 'A'ole e kapa 'ia he male ku'una? He male ku'una nō, a no laila, e 'ae 'ia ka male 'ana o ke kāne me ke kāne a o ka wahine paha me ka wahine ma ke kānāwai.


E ho'ouna 'ia mai na ā leka iā māua, 'o ia ho'i 'o Laiana Wong a me Kekeha Solis ma ka pahu leka uila ma lalo nei:

>> kwong@hawaii.edu
>> rsolis@hawaii.edu

a i ‘ole ia, ma ke kelepona:

>> 956-2627 (Laiana)
>> 956-2627 (Kekeha)

This column is coordinated by Kawaihuelani Center for Hawaiian Language at the University of Hawai'i at Mānoa.

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Ken_Conklin wrote:
Marriage is a religious sacrament bringing souls together in the presence of God. Civil union is a legal partnership certified and enforced by government whereby people acquire rights and responsibilities for the benefit of themselves and society. Marriage and civil union are two completely separate concepts. Most people will choose to have both. But it is perfectly possible for a relationship to be either a marriage or a civil union without also being the other type.

Our laws should be changed so that government no longer licenses or certifies marriages, while marriage no longer conveys governmentally enforceable rights and obligations unless the partners also choose to have a civil union. Each religious institution should be free to choose for itself whether to allow the sacrament of marriage for same-gender spouses, regardless of government laws. Civil union is a business partnership -- a legal partnership certified and enforced by government whereby people acquire rights and responsibilities for the benefit of themselves and society. Note that when certifying a business partnership, government does not inquire into the genders of the partners, nor whether they are having sexual relations, not what sort of sexual relations. It is a matter of civil rights that government must allow business partnerships, including civil unions, for same-gender partners with the same rights and obligations pertaining to opposite-gender partners. Government should establish laws through the political process regarding permissible biological and property relationships among the partners in a civil union, including the question whether more than two people can be partners. Whether more than two people are allowed in a marriage, and how many of each gender, should be freely decided by each religious institution without government interference -- because marriage is purely a spiritual relationship that does not convey any governmentally-enforceable rights or obligations.

This has been a summary of an essay I published about four years ago. See

on June 29,2013 | 05:23AM
Terii_Kelii wrote:
KKKonklin is still pimping out the Star-Advertiser site for his own benefit. minamina. fail.
on July 2,2013 | 06:39AM
DiverDave wrote:
Of course in the old Kingdom kings and chiefs could have as many wives as they wanted. Kamehameha I was said to have over 20 wives. As time went on polygamy and adultery were frowned upon, due to the influence of Christian moralities. These morals were turned into a marriage law during the reign of Kamehameha III. The new law said that a married man or woman could not have sex with another person until divorcing. This law came to a head when David Kalakaua's (later to become the Merry Monarch) grandfather Kamanawa was arrested and first brought to court for leaving his fat wife Komo. The court directed that according to the new laws Kamanawa could not have intercourse with the second woman until his divorced wife found another legal husband or died. Six weeks after, Kamanawa was again arrested for poisoning Komo. During the murder trial that King Kamehameha III attended, Kamanawa never tried to say that he didn't poison her with a "spiked" awa drink. Instead, his defense was that Polynesian chiefs had the prerogative of changing mates as many times as they wanted. To make matters worse Kamanawa lost his cool and accused the Judge of sleeping with the female Prime Minister, Auhea. This angered the King, as he himself knew the woman well in bed. That afternoon the verdict was passed down by the jury: "In accordance with the sentence of death passed upon you, we hereby notify you that the day of your execution will be the twentieth day of October at 11 o'clock." It was signed by King Kamehameha III, and his Prime Minister Auhea. Unfortunately for David Kalakaua the hanging took place outside the gate of the fort in full view of the students (which he was one of) at the royal children's school. This left Kalakaua(a member of the Aikanaka clan with a hatred towards the Kamehameha clan, and also for missionaries and their new rules. That afternoon Kalakaua waylaid a missionary boy and beat him up soundly.
on June 29,2013 | 10:32AM
Terii_Kelii wrote:
Mai haku wale i ka mōʻaukala Hawai‘i.
on July 2,2013 | 03:55AM
DiverDave wrote:
If you David Rogers wasn't so ignorant of Hawaii's history you too could write something pertinent to this editorial discussion. Unfortunately, your lack of knowledge allows only for name calling and negativity. Poor you.
on July 2,2013 | 08:14PM
Terii_Kelii wrote:
1) You mean name calling like how you called me a "red diaper dooper baby" ... THREE times? That's real mature there on your part, AND hypocritical. 2) You said that you do not speak any Hawaiian, yet you are able to respond to my post. That is just more proof that you are lying about your identity. 3) I obviously know more history than you because I know that your post is ridiculous, AND ---> I <--- know the difference between the unratified treaty of annexation and the ratified Newlands Resolution, two totally different documents. 4) As for ignorant, I do know the difference between their, there, and they're, AND I know that it's you WEREN'T, not you wasn't as stated in your comment. Conclusion: DiverDave = epic fail !
on July 3,2013 | 01:42AM
holokanaka wrote:
show me an annexation treaty joker.
on July 3,2013 | 07:38AM
Terii_Kelii wrote:
The above fairy tale is such nonsense that you're trying to pass off to be historically accurate information. Again, I do not have to prove you know nothing: you do that fine all by yourself. Your post was the history equivalent of saying 2 plus 2 = cellular telephone. I do not need to state explicitly that 2 plus 2 = 4 in order to accomplish ANYTHING, proving myself right or proving you wrong. You are not going to play me into writing out Kuykendall's 3 volume set - no one needs me to type anything here. Your risible nonsense speaks for itself, and anyone and everyone with a basic knowledge of history does not need another person posting any kind of retort. The obvious is already plain to see. Others who do not know a thing about Hawaiian history like you can just use google or a basic book in Hawaiian history to verify that for themselves. end of discussion.
on July 14,2013 | 04:33PM
Terii_Kelii wrote:
KennyKKonklin is still pímping out the Star-Advertiser website for his own benefit. minamina. fail
on July 2,2013 | 06:40AM
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